Braided line on a baitcaster 2024
hitchhiker reply :
I tried it and the only way I could cast it decently was if I was using a relatively heavy weight while c-rigging. (3/4oz+) Was using Power Pro and tried Suffix in 40 and 50. Any lighter the line didn't come off of the spool smooth enough.
It was spooled on tightly. What was I doing wrong.
How long a cast are some of you getting with a 3/8-1/2 oz jig?
Don't want to give up on it just yet as the line is still basically new. Any tips?
brushhoggin reply :
what kinda rod and reel do you have? length and action? i assume you've experimented with different brake settings?
hitchhiker reply :
40 Powerpro on a revo SX and 50 suffix on a revo inshore. Both cast great with mon or fluoro, but I couln't get it with the braid. They were on 7ft mh and heavy GUSA's.
brushhoggin reply :
not sure using braided is the problem.
Baitcasting reels provide better lure control and accuracy and are suited for lines testing 10 pounds or heavier. They have a tendency to backlash or snarl when the spool spins faster than line is paying out, especially when casting into the wind.
While magnetic braking features on baitcasting reels do help prevent backlashes, the most important control is the spool tension knob (usually next to the handles). To set it for each lure, hold the rod perpendicular to your body, disengage the spool and loosen the tension just until the lure starts to drop, then tighten slightly.
To cast, disengage the spool and hold your thumb on the spool. Release thumb pressure on the spool when you want the lure to move forward. It is crucial to learn to control spool revolution speed with your thumb.
hitchhiker reply :
I'm pretty sure it was me casting with the braid. With the reel properly adjusted, spool tension knob, brakes set the way I like. I was reaching 100 ft with a series 3 crankbait. 1/4oz With braid and a heavier say 1/2 oz the line would stick to itself and slow down the cast and drastically reduce the distance. No backlash involved, just short casts.
Matt Kremers reply :
you can try using some line conditioner. Vicious sells some. KVD sells some too. I do not have experience with it yet, but will soon. It is supposed to work really well
brushhoggin reply :
maybe its spooled too tightly?
hitchhiker reply :
Quotemaybe its spooled too tightly?
Is that possible? I never thought of that, I'll try respooling with less tension and use some line conditioner on it. Thanks for the replies.
kbkindle reply :
get a shimano reel
Hammer 4 reply :
TRy some Diawa Samuri braid, 55# cast's a 1/2oz jig..a long ways.. 
jb7725 reply :
double check your reel adjustments i use a stxl with 30 pound power pro which is 8 pound test diameter and i can cast a weightless fluke with it a decent distance no problem
Big Bait Fishing reply :
Quote40 Powerpro on a revo SX and 50 suffix on a revo inshore. Both cast great with mon or fluoro, but I couln't get it with the braid. They were on 7ft mh and heavy GUSA's.
i have a REVO SX and it is spooled with 30# power pro and i can cast baits as small as 3/8" of an ounce a pretty long ways , put on a 1/2 oz. lure and i can cast it a mile ( a long ways , any how !!!! ) that is what the sx does , it casts very far , just takes some fine tuning of the cast control and magnetic brakes . as far as the REVO INSHORE , i have one of those also and it really does not like to cast anything under a 1/2 oz. i had 50 lb. power pro on the inshore and could not get good results on baits that are too light . so i use it on my swimbait rod rated for 2-6 oz. lures . i have 15 lb. p-line CXX now on it . hope that helps . btw , don't give up on the SX , that is a awesome reel ,just take your time with it and learn the brakes and cast control and you shall be rewarded
Tin reply :
QuoteQuotemaybe its spooled too tightly?Is that possible? I never thought of that, I'll try respooling with less tension and use some line conditioner on it. Thanks for the replies.
Happens a lot. When I have my reel in "winch" mode the line will cut down into the spool. So yes it can be too tight and there is a good chance this is the issue if all the reel setting are ok. I find it useless to use a line conditioner on braid.
Thai reply :
Quoteyou can try using some line conditioner. Vicious sells some. KVD sells some too. I do not have experience with it yet, but will soon. It is supposed to work really well
Why would you put line conditioner on braid? Am I missing something here?
When using braid sometime it can dig into iself esp a thinner diameter line like 30-40. Did you get a backlash or set a hook hard or got snagged and tried horsing it off? I find that when I do things like that the line will bury into itself pretty darn good and will cast considerably shorter than usual.
Cast it out as far as you can and start pulling some line out and just reel in, if that doesnt do it I know know what to tell ya bud
gl figuring it out
Dan: reply :
I don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.
Tin reply :
QuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.
Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
Dan: reply :
QuoteQuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
I guess so, but I think the wider diameters seem to help.
Thai reply :
QuoteQuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
Yup Dan when I spooled your 50 on I got a backlash and in the process of getting it out the line buried itself so deep into the spool that I had to cut all but half of it off just to be able to free my line...
Thai reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
I guess so, but I think the wider diameters seem to help.
"That's what she said"
Tin reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
I guess so, but I think the wider diameters seem to help.
I agree, it is just that 50 pound braid has what...12 or 15 pound diameter? And it doesn't help that the stuff generally has an edge to cut back down.
Dan: reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
Yup Dan when I spooled your 50 on I got a backlash and in the process of getting it out the line buried itself so deep into the spool that I had to cut all but half of it off just to be able to free my line...
That's cause you weren't good at casting back then. ;D Besides, he's not talking about backlashes, this is a separate issue.
Tin reply :
LOL....What I learned on...
Hammer 4 reply :
Samuri 55# is the same as 10# mono..
How are you guys getting all these bad overruns..?
Thai reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't use anything less than 50lb. The lighter braids have thinner diameters and sometimes it can dig in between itself. I used to have that problem with 30lb braid, problem solved with heavier braid.Trust me, it is possible with any diamater braid. ;D
Yup Dan when I spooled your 50 on I got a backlash and in the process of getting it out the line buried itself so deep into the spool that I had to cut all but half of it off just to be able to free my line...
That's cause you weren't good at casting back then. ;D Besides, he's not talking about backlashes, this is a separate issue.
I know but my point is that filament lines dont dig in so deep even on a bad backlash and you gotta admit, a week into using a BC I was a champ
Dan: reply :
QuoteSamuri 55# is the same as 10# mono..How are you guys getting all these bad overruns..?
Who's getting overruns besides the one that Thai mentioned?
Hammer 4 reply :
QuoteQuoteSamuri 55# is the same as 10# mono..How are you guys getting all these bad overruns..?
Who's getting overruns besides the one that Thai mentioned?
Thai and Tin..?
Tin reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteSamuri 55# is the same as 10# mono..How are you guys getting all these bad overruns..?
Who's getting overruns besides the one that Thai mentioned?
Thai and Tin..?
Only times I get them is when I try skipping a jig that has a recessed line tie... >
Hammer 4 reply :
Oh, sorry...that's why I asked.
Dan: reply :
Hammer the issue we're talking about is not the same as a backlash.
Tin reply :
It's all good. We were busting on one another...
Hammer 4 reply :
I know, just thought I'd ask..just in case I could be of some help.. ;D
QuoteHammer the issue we're talking about is not the same as a backlash.
Dan: reply :
QuoteI know, just thought I'd ask..just in case I could be of some help..QuoteHammer the issue we're talking about is not the same as a backlash.
gotcha, gotcha.
santacruz reply :
Throw that braid out,it wears groves in your eyelets of your rod,Ill never use braid again now i know that!!!!!
brushhoggin reply :
Quoteget a shimano reel
not necessary. you have a very nice reel dont listen to the shimano purist snobs
hitchhiker reply :
QuoteQuoteget a shimano reelnot necessary. you have a very nice reel dont listen to the shimano purist snobs
I won't listen, no worries, I just hit the ignore button in my head and kept on reading with the worthwhile replies. ;D
Thanks
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteWhile magnetic braking features on baitcasting reels do help prevent backlashes...
The magnetic braking system is an issue for many
of us. I have been fishing baitcasters for more than
a few years. My STX has been a challenge.
You might try to borrow someone's reel that
has a centrifugal braking system. Spool it with
inexpensive XT #17 and see what you think.
8-)
Hammer 4 reply :
Hmmmm, 1000's of people use braid w/o guide problems...usually it's cheap guides that happens.
QuoteThrow that braid out,it wears groves in your eyelets of your rod,Ill never use braid again now i know that!!!!!
Dan: reply :
QuoteHmmmm, 1000's of people use braid w/o guide problems...usually it's cheap guides that happens.QuoteThrow that braid out,it wears groves in your eyelets of your rod,Ill never use braid again now i know that!!!!!
x2
brushhoggin reply :
QuoteQuoteWhile magnetic braking features on baitcasting reels do help prevent backlashes...The magnetic braking system is an issue for many
of us. I have been fishing baitcasters for more than
a few years. My STX has been a challenge.
You might try to borrow someone's reel that
has a centrifugal braking system. Spool it with
inexpensive XT #17 and see what you think.
8-)
i would guess you are a way more advanced fisherman than me RW, and i'd imagine you have way more experience with baitcasters than me, so i find it strange that you think using the stx is a challenge. i couldn't create a problem with that reel if i tried. completely user/baitcast beginner friendly
Hammer 4 reply :
Kinda gettin OT with the subject of braking..but I'll add this...I have a 2 yr pld BPS Extrem, I find that the magnetic brakes Need to be set according to lure weight, and the spool tension adjusted accordinly. The brakes have to be set at 8..anything less and I get overruns.
OTH..I have a Chronacrh with centrical brakes which I like a lot better. I started with 2 brakes out of 6 on, after about 2 weeks, I disengaged all the brakes, so now I have none..I use 55# braid on this reel, and have very few overruns. Maybe 1 every 10 outings.
Obviously the Chronarch is a higher quality reel, but the braking imho make a big difference in that you have way more control over the braking. In the end, your Thumb is the main control..
Bayou Bass reply :
Been using braid for years now and have never noticed as much as a nic in any of my guides as a result of the line. I use 15lb-50lb and they all cast fine. I just have to change the settings and I am good to go.
Thai reply :
QuoteThrow that braid out,it wears groves in your eyelets of your rod,Ill never use braid again now i know that!!!!!
More like throw that rod out! ;D
Quality guides will not get damaged from braid
What what did you have that had issues with the braid if you dont mind me asking?
RoLo reply :
QuoteThrow that braid out,it wears groves in your eyelets of your rod,Ill never use braid again now i know that!!!!!
When 'kevlar' line first hit the street, it did in fact groove the rod guides
unless the rings were made of silicon nitride or silicon carbide.
Although kevlar triggered a stigma, polyethylene braid is a different animal.
I use nothing but PE braid, and I've only seen guide-grooving once,
and it was the tiptop guide of an $80 Bionic Blade with non-fuji aluminum oxide inserts.
Roger
santacruz reply :
QuoteQuoteThrow that braid out,it wears groves in your eyelets of your rod,Ill never use braid again now i know that!!!!!When 'kevlar' line first hit the street, it did in fact groove the rod guides
unless the rings were made of silicon nitride or silicon carbide.
Although kevlar triggered a stigma, polyethylene braid is a different animal.
I use nothing but PE braid, and I've only seen guide-grooving once,
and it was the tiptop guide of an $80 Bionic Blade with non-fuji aluminum oxide inserts.
Roger
Thank you roger I guess when i made that post should have said they wear 40$ wal-mart rods that the beginer and average fisherman buy,and for people who dont have 100$-300$ to drop on a st.croix.
Hammer 4 reply :
79.99 on a Shimano Clarus..
roadwarrior reply :
Geez...
Roger is such an elitist.
Maybe this is a better guideline:
If the braid costs more then the rod,
DO NOT spool it on your reel!
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Hammer 4 reply :
QuoteMaybe this is a better guideline:
If the braid costs more then the rod,
DO NOT spool it on your reel!
:
LOL...sorry but...that's funny stuff.. ;D
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