Reel Talk (Pun Intended) 2024
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
So I am ordering a new powell rod this week and I am now looking at reels to pair with it. I have an Abu Revo Premier on my medium duckett and absolutely love it! However, I don't want to buy the same reel for my powell because I want to try other options. Part of me wants to wait until september for the new revo's year I want to remain open to other reels. I have been fishing since I can remember, but a couple years ago I became serious about bass fishing. I want to hear your opinions on other reels/companies I should consider for less or the same amount of cash as a revo premier. What do you guys think? Should I just stick with abu or venture out?
jerzeeD reply :
Stick with what you like and works for you. That said, you can have my Pfluegers when you pry them from my dead skeletal fingers.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 2:39 AM, jerzeeD said:Stick with what you like and works for you. That said, you can have my Pfluegers when you pry them from my dead skeletal fingers.
What is it you like about Pflueger? What model(s) do you have? My problem is I know I like my abu garcia but it really is my first bait casting reel.. I like its size/palm-ability and it is easy to maintain. Its a very light and comfortable reel. I don't have a lot of problems with backlashes. It seems smooth to me but what can I compare that too? Nothing at this point.
new2BC4bass reply :
You already have what some feel is the best reel in its price range. A reel that can do it all. I don't have the Premier, but do have a Patriarch XT, which is suppose to be very similar. Love it, and feel it is a great reel.
I personally don't agree that a person should stick to one brand of reel. I like trying different reels. The Lews Tournament Pro Speed Spool, Optimus XLT and Okuma Komodo are 3 reels you might want to consider.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 4:18 AM, new2BC4bass said:You already have what some feel is the best reel in its price range. A reel that can do it all. I don't have the Premier, but do have a Patriarch XT, which is suppose to be very similar. Love it, and feel it is a great reel.
I personally don't agree that a person should stick to one brand of reel. I like trying different reels. The Lews Tournament Pro Speed Spool, Optimus XLT and Okuma Komodo are 3 reels you might want to consider.
Thanks New2bc4bass. The consumer in me just wants to wait for the newest/latest revo. However, I have been looking at the Lews Tourney Pro particularly because of all the buzz on this forum about the reel company. A matte black reel with the purple and matte black powell endurance just might be a sexy little combo and that doesn't hurt 
Edit: I agree that at least I shouldn't stick to one brand of reel considering I haven't tried anything but my revo so far.
jerzeeD reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 2:46 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:What is it you like about Pflueger? What model(s) do you have? My problem is I know I like my abu garcia but it really is my first bait casting reel.. I like its size/palm-ability and it is easy to maintain. Its a very light and comfortable reel. I don't have a lot of problems with backlashes. It seems smooth to me but what can I compare that too? Nothing at this point.
I use all spinning gear. What do I like about Pflueger? They make reliable, smooth reels at a price point where most others make poo. Look at the Trion. Good luck finding a 40 dollar spinning reel that feels and lasts the way it does from another reel manufacturer. The president is a KILLER reel for 60 bucks. My happiness with the cheaper models made it a no brainer when choosing a reel company when I decided to go with aluminum/magnesium bodied reels. My current line up is a 35 size Patriarch, a 35 size Supreme, A 30 and 35 size Medalist, a 35 size President xt, and I still have a 25 size Trion on my UL setup for brook trout. No problems with these or any one of my prior Pfluegers. I know the Shimano guys love their reels..... Rightfully so. They are a good manufacturer. But I feel more comfortable with my Pfluegers and feel you get alot of bang for the buck.
j.bruno reply :
Id consider a Lews Tournament Pro Speed Spool or Shimano Chronarch 200e.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 4:54 AM, jerzeeD said:I use all spinning gear. What do I like about Pflueger? They make reliable, smooth reels at a price point where most others make poo. Look at the Trion. Good luck finding a 40 dollar spinning reel that feels and lasts the way it does from another reel manufacturer. The president is a KILLER reel for 60 bucks. My happiness with the cheaper models made it a no brainer when choosing a reel company when I decided to go with aluminum/magnesium bodied reels. My current line up is a 35 size Patriarch, a 35 size Supreme, A 30 and 35 size Medalist, a 35 size President xt, and I still have a 25 size Trion on my UL setup for brook trout. No problems with these or any one of my prior Pfluegers. I know the Shimano guys love their reels..... Rightfully so. They are a good manufacturer. But I feel more comfortable with my Pfluegers and feel you get alot of bang for the buck.
Thanks Jerzeed. How do you feel the patriarch stands against reels like abu's premier or lews tourney pro. I believe all of these reels are in the $200 price range. Perhaps at that point it comes down to your confidence in the manufacturer and their warranty. I imagine the variables in what they offer in relation the the next reel are minute. I also heard Shimano no longer manufactures out of Japan or something along those lines and their quality has subsequently suffered. I still love my stradic spinning reel regardless.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 5:21 AM, j.bruno said:Id consider a Lews Tournament Pro Speed Spool or Shimano Chronarch 200e.
Im not going to try shimano, but I am totally intrigued by Lews. Have any of you had the opportunity to use both a Lews tournament pro and an abu garcia revo premier and have a little compare and contrast for me?
jerzeeD reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 5:23 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:Thanks Jerzeed. How do you feel the patriarch stands against reels like abu's premier or lews tourney pro. I believe all of these reels are in the $200 price range. Perhaps at that point it comes down to your confidence in the manufacturer and their warranty. I imagine the variables in what they offer in relation the the next reel are minute. I also heard Shimano no longer manufactures out of Japan or something along those lines and their quality has subsequently suffered. I still love my stradic spinning reel regardless.
The Patriarch is the only one of those made of Magnesium. It is light as a feather and stronger than a concrete sidewalk. I tried the Abu premier. It is a nice reel. But my Patriarch feels a bit smoother at the price point.
j.bruno reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 5:26 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:Im not going to try shimano, but I am totally intrigued by Lews. Have any of you had the opportunity to use both a Lews tournament pro and an abu garcia revo premier and have a little compare and contrast for me?
Never got to play with a Revo Premier. But i do have a Tournament Pro. Picked it up off the auction site for $50 less than retail. Great little reel. Doesn't hold as much line as the Premier though i do not believe. Same weight. Same type of braking system. The thing i like the most on my TP is the handle and knobs. Super smooth & quiet reeling also.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Shimano Chronarch 50E, still made in Japan, still one of the best reels ever made.
Rangerphil reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 5:26 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:Im not going to try shimano, but I am totally intrigued by Lews. Have any of you had the opportunity to use both a Lews tournament pro and an abu garcia revo premier and have a little compare and contrast for me?
Just wondering why you are not going to try shimano?
new2BC4bass reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 4:50 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:Edit: I agree that at least I shouldn't stick to one brand of reel considering I haven't tried anything but my revo so far.
That is one reason for trying various reels. How do you know which make/model you will like the best if you don't try them all? 
Actually it isn't necessary to try them all. Just all those that are highly recommended on sites such as this one. Still makes for quite a few.
EDIT: My problem is I like all my reels so far. Maybe if I could spend several days a week throughout the fishing season on the water fishing, I could develop a preference.
smalljaw67 reply :
If you want to take a chane, you may be able to pick up last years model Premier pretty cheap. They are all on sale now as a lot of anglers are waiting to get the new ones but once the new ones hit the shelves all the old models will end up at some incredibly low prices, I wouldn't be surprised to see them under $180.
BASSclary reply :
They retail new for quite a bit, but the Zillion is the BEES KNEES. They are absolute tanks, and cast wonderfully. Plus, they are some VERY ergonomic reels.
You can find them on FleaBay for around ~$200
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 9:08 AM, BASSclary said:They retail new for quite a bit, but the Zillion is the BEES KNEES. They are absolute tanks, and cast wonderfully. Plus, they are some VERY ergonomic reels.
You can find them on FleaBay for around ~$200
I am going to look into them Clary. Thanks for your help here and with the powell rods. I am calling the company directly tomorrow and if I get the info im looking for ordering my whole set up!
On 7/30/2012 at 8:49 AM, smalljaw67 said:If you want to take a chane, you may be able to pick up last years model Premier pretty cheap. They are all on sale now as a lot of anglers are waiting to get the new ones but once the new ones hit the shelves all the old models will end up at some incredibly low prices, I wouldn't be surprised to see them under $180.
I am aware of this, but I own last years abu premier. I want to try something else recommended on here. Thanks brotha!
On 7/30/2012 at 8:25 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Shimano Chronarch 50E, still made in Japan, still one of the best reels ever made.
I'm going to check it out right now. Thanks.
On 7/30/2012 at 8:34 AM, Rangerphil said:Just wondering why you are not going to try shimano?
I'm not entirely opposed to it. I just want to explore other companies. I love my shimano spinning reel.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 8:40 AM, new2BC4bass said:That is one reason for trying various reels. How do you know which make/model you will like the best if you don't try them all?
Actually it isn't necessary to try them all. Just all those that are highly recommended on sites such as this one. Still makes for quite a few.
EDIT: My problem is I like all my reels so far. Maybe if I could spend several days a week throughout the fishing season on the water fishing, I could develop a preference.
Totally agree. After some review reading, research, and comparison, I think I'm sold on Lews Tourney Pro. They are releasing new models like other companies in the fall but for 100 dollars less Im ok with their current model. I can get the tourney pro for 180, but do you guys think they might go on sale because of the new Lews reels that will drop in September? Maybe worth waiting a month or two?
j.bruno reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 9:23 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:Totally agree. After some review reading, research, and comparison, I think I'm sold on Lews Tourney Pro. They are releasing new models like other companies in the fall but for 100 dollars less Im ok with their current model. I can get the tourney pro for 180, but do you guys think they might go on sale because of the new Lews reels that will drop in September? Maybe worth waiting a month or two?
Go check out bay of the e. I am seeing buy it now $158 free ship. Brand new in box. From the same guy i got mine from
Hi Salenity reply :
I sent that guy a message the other day and he said he'd sell me 2 of them for $150 each. FYI
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
So he's a dealer or just an owner? They are brand spankin' new?
SirSnookalot reply :
Your opening post was at 2:30 and it appears as if you made a decision by 9:30, 7 hours without seeing, fondling or putting a reel on rod to see how it feels. The best knowledge for me has been thru my own mistakes, it's only a reel and it won't be your last. My personal track record regarding line management, quality of construction, durability, drag, and how well the reel operates 6 months later, guides me in future purchases, not to mention customer support.
I'ts pretty hard these days to get a really bad reel.
new2BC4bass reply :
Member on here is selling 2 in excellent condition for $135. I bought one from a previous posting of his. Reel I purchased looked brand new far as I could tell other than being spooled with 15# Seige Camo.
http://www.bassresou...o-bait-casters/
Edit: Unfortunately SirSnookalot not all of us live in an area with stores that give us a chance to fondle rod or reel before purchasing. I've bought a few rods after handling them, but of my 25 new (or new to me) reels I got to handle zero before buying. I have to depend on guys such as yourself for recommendations. Often I've already researched, so it doesn't take much feedback from you guys to make a final decision. Especially since I usually already have my mind more than half made up.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 9:23 AM, ipeeinmywetsuit said:Totally agree. After some review reading, research, and comparison, I think I'm sold on Lews Tourney Pro. They are releasing new models like other companies in the fall but for 100 dollars less Im ok with their current model. I can get the tourney pro for 180, but do you guys think they might go on sale because of the new Lews reels that will drop in September? Maybe worth waiting a month or two?
The Lew's and Revos are vitually the same design. You won't see much difference between the two. For a real comparison try a Daiwa or Shimano maybe even a Pinnacle.
SirSnookalot reply :
QuoteUnfortunately SirSnookalot not all of us live in an area with stores that give us a chance to fondle rod or reel before purchasing.
Quite true ! Don't take my recommendations, my snoopy out fit is one of my favorites. All kidding aside, even before I go buy, I try and get a couple of weeks of home work in. I recently bought a reel sight unseen on line, something that I just don't do. I did very little research and bought strictly on stats, not that it's a bad reel, but it didn't pan out as well as I hoped. I made a mistake by being too hasty.
roadwarrior reply :
Well, if you don't want to try Shimano, take a look at this Pinnacle:
Optimus XLT http://www.pinnaclefishing.com/shop/p-78-optimus-xlt.aspx#page=page-1
new2BC4bass reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 10:14 PM, SirSnookalot said:Quite true ! Don't take my recommendations, my snoopy out fit is one of my favorites. All kidding aside, even before I go buy, I try and get a couple of weeks of home work in. I recently bought a reel sight unseen on line, something that I just don't do. I did very little research and bought strictly on stats, not that it's a bad reel, but it didn't pan out as well as I hoped. I made a mistake by being too hasty.
I read your post about that purchase. Sorry that it didn't work out well for you. I simply don't get to fish nearly enough to get a feeling for what I like the best. The 51E goes out with me every time for light baits as I haven't taken the necessary time with the Sol to become good with it using lighter baits. Otherwise I usually do not use the same 2 reels in a row in an effort to use all my gear. Of course new (or new-to-me) reels do get taken out consecutively...such as my new-to-me Lews Tournament Pro. But then after a few times I'll feel guilty, and take out something different.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 7/30/2012 at 3:25 PM, SirSnookalot said:Your opening post was at 2:30 and it appears as if you made a decision by 9:30, 7 hours without seeing, fondling or putting a reel on rod to see how it feels. The best knowledge for me has been thru my own mistakes, it's only a reel and it won't be your last. My personal track record regarding line management, quality of construction, durability, drag, and how well the reel operates 6 months later, guides me in future purchases, not to mention customer support.
I'ts pretty hard these days to get a really bad reel.
This is great advice. However, this forum alone is not the only outlet for my research. Like new2BC4bass said, "not all of us have access to stores where we can handle great products." We especially don't have access to certain products I am interested in using. We do however has access to the internet and within a matter of minutes I can view every product review, forum, article, and product specification. Although that can be more overwhelming then handling the product itself, if you can weed through the bias and bs it's very helpful to making an educated decision/purchase. Like you said anyways, "It's pretty hard these days to get a really bad reel." I certainly have not purchased a reel yet.. I always sleep on it and continue to read, read, read.
On 7/30/2012 at 11:04 PM, roadwarrior said:Well, if you don't want to try Shimano, take a look at this Pinnacle:
Optimus XLT http://www.pinnaclef...spx#page=page-1
Actually right now I'm still deciding between the Lews and the Shimano Chronarch 200e. They are a couple of the few companies I can get a left handed model from.
On 7/30/2012 at 10:06 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:The Lew's and Revos are vitually the same design. You won't see much difference between the two. For a real comparison try a Daiwa or Shimano maybe even a Pinnacle.
I noticed this immediately and its probably why I'm drawn towards the reel, haha. Like I said I'm open to the idea of a chronarch or even a curado.. I've not come to a decision yet. Daiwa just seems too far out of my price range for whats available to me and what I want.
On 7/30/2012 at 9:27 PM, new2BC4bass said:Member on here is selling 2 in excellent condition for $135. I bought one from a previous posting of his. Reel I purchased looked brand new far as I could tell other than being spooled with 15# Seige Camo.
http://www.bassresou...o-bait-casters/
Edit: Unfortunately SirSnookalot not all of us live in an area with stores that give us a chance to fondle rod or reel before purchasing. I've bought a few rods after handling them, but of my 25 new (or new to me) reels I got to handle zero before buying. I have to depend on guys such as yourself for recommendations. Often I've already researched, so it doesn't take much feedback from you guys to make a final decision. Especially since I usually already have my mind more than half made up.
Thanks boss.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Daiwa is so so. Just to get a good reel from them you have to spend almost $300. If I were you I would stick to Shimano, Abu, or (even as much as it hurts to say this) Lews.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 7/31/2012 at 1:48 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Daiwa is so so. Just to get a good reel from them you have to spend almost $300. If I were you I would stick to Shimano, Abu, or (even as much as it hurts to say this) Lews.
Daiwa tends to pricey when comparing apples to apples but they might be seing the light on this with the new Lexa line. The price point is in the Curado territory and it looks good on paper.
BassinLou reply :
Ipeeinmywetsuit looks like you have work cut for you. Here is my 2 cents worth. I recently purchased a Lews Tournament MG. I went MG because I am used to magnetic braking reels. My abu Sx handles the same way, great reel. This new Lews reel handled great as well.If I am not mistaken they also carry this model left handed. I personally think its great your branching out and experiencing different reels. I do the same thing. That is what led me to the Lews reel. I also have Abu's, Shimano's and Quantums. They have all treated me well and I have caught a lot of nice fish on each of these reels. Continue doing your homework and you will end up with reel that will suit you.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Nothing can compare to Shimano in my eyes, but thats just me. Mike I know you see them all, honestly, what do you think is the best reel to have as far as maint. and dependability?
rangerjockey reply :
After so many years of fishing shimano it's hard for me to change, I tried the lews twice and just don't care for them. under $200 I would either find a curado e or the new chronarch e , I have both and they are solid. I just got a zillion and I'am very impressed smooth and a great caster. I would buy another without question.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 7/31/2012 at 4:40 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Nothing can compare to Shimano in my eyes, but thats just me. Mike I know you see them all, honestly, what do you think is the best reel to have as far as maint. and dependability?
Each lineup has their quirks. Shimano's Curado/Citica/Chronarch design is probably the most simple yet effective. An argument could be made for Daiwa too. The ABU/Lews/BPS/Pflueger design uses plastic yoke posts and no pinion bearing.These are small details and unnoticeable for the most part. Past generations had some levelwind and clutch kick lever issues. Quantum is a head scratcher with some good design features but poor QC.
JShe8918 reply :
I too just recently was forced to decide on a new reel, and i was torn between the Tourny pro, the gen II abu premier, or waiting for the gen III premier. I have only owned Abu Garcia and wanted to venture out to test the waters of a new brand of reel. After lots of reading and playing with the reels I purchased a Lew's tourny pro. As a matter of fact from the same seller that ya'll were talking about on the "bay" for 158 with free shipping. Purchased it Saturday and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow or Thursday! I talked to them on the phone first and they seem extremely nice and to answer your question. They are an actual sporting good store located in Alabama. I would try and see if some of the sponsors on here will price match though. Nothing like supporting was seems to be a great forum!
Fishwhittler reply :
On 7/31/2012 at 7:53 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Each lineup has their quirks. Shimano's Curado/Citica/Chronarch design is probably the most simple yet effective. An argument could be made for Daiwa too. The ABU/Lews/BPS/Pflueger design uses plastic yoke posts and no pinion bearing.These are small details and unnoticeable for the most part. Past generations had some levelwind and clutch kick lever issues. Quantum is a head scratcher with some good design features but poor QC.
What about Pinnacle?
new2BC4bass reply :
On 8/1/2012 at 3:04 AM, Fishwhittler said:What about Pinnacle?
X2 Would like to know that myself.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Pinnacle has really stepped it up with their higher end tournament class Optimus and Performa etc. These are relatively new offerings so I think the jury is still out to some degree especially on longevity. The ones I've handled may not be quite as refined as Shimano or Daiwa for example but definetely are not what I would call inferior by any means.
Fishwhittler reply :
On 8/1/2012 at 8:09 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Pinnacle has really stepped it up with their higher end tournament class Optimus and Performa etc. These are relatively new offerings so I think the jury is still out to some degree especially on longevity. The ones I've handled may not be quite as refined as Shimano or Daiwa for example but definetely are not what I would call inferior by any means.
Thanks for the response!
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
Sorry for the hiatus sirs. I was on a little three day fishing/camping trip.
On 7/31/2012 at 11:05 PM, JShe8918 said:I too just recently was forced to decide on a new reel, and i was torn between the Tourny pro, the gen II abu premier, or waiting for the gen III premier. I have only owned Abu Garcia and wanted to venture out to test the waters of a new brand of reel. After lots of reading and playing with the reels I purchased a Lew's tourny pro. As a matter of fact from the same seller that ya'll were talking about on the "bay" for 158 with free shipping. Purchased it Saturday and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow or Thursday! I talked to them on the phone first and they seem extremely nice and to answer your question. They are an actual sporting good store located in Alabama. I would try and see if some of the sponsors on here will price match though. Nothing like supporting was seems to be a great forum!
I was exactly where you were at deciding between a new reel company or the gen3 abu premier. Let us know how you like the new reel though!
On 7/31/2012 at 4:40 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Nothing can compare to Shimano in my eyes, but thats just me. Mike I know you see them all, honestly, what do you think is the best reel to have as far as maint. and dependability?
I handled a couple chronarchs and curados on Monday. I did enjoy their simplicity but the feel of the aluminum/graphite combo they have on the reels kind of "felt cheap" to me. They are slightly heavier than my abu and it seemed they were a little stiffer and rigid when I was cranking them but it could have just been the floor models I was checking out. I can't stand that green on the curado but overall I liked how they fit in my hand and my girlfriend really liked the chronarch's aesthetics as well. I do feel more.comfortable with a smaller reel. I've grown accustomed to the size of my Abu and I have shorter wider fingers.
On 7/31/2012 at 7:53 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Each lineup has their quirks. Shimano's Curado/Citica/Chronarch design is probably the most simple yet effective. An argument could be made for Daiwa too. The ABU/Lews/BPS/Pflueger design uses plastic yoke posts and no pinion bearing.These are small details and unnoticeable for the most part. Past generations had some levelwind and clutch kick lever issues. Quantum is a head scratcher with some good design features but poor QC.
Those were some of the first things I noticed about Shimano vs Abu/Lews. I do know the other reel companies offer higher performance numbers and more features to compete. However, simpler has usually been something thats better in my experiences. Thanks for the helpful info!
I have to tell you gentlemen that after doing some more light reading & research and listening to you on here I made my decision today. I'm not quite ready to dissapoint some of you while making others happy. I will tell you that it was between Lews and Shimano entirely in the end and I will be purchasing the one that was not decided upon for my next bait casting setup. I still want to talk reels with you all because it's been informative. I was able to really narrow down all of the options I was considering at the beggining with your guys direction and help. Thank you all!
JShe8918 reply :
Congratulations on coming to a decision! I can't wait to hear which one you chose!!!
BassinLou reply :
I am sure you chose wisely, let us know what u got.
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
So yesterday I ordered a Lews Tournament Pro in their left handed model. That silly little Lews sticker came right off like I had read about. Luckily there is not a recessed spot on the reel for it so it will remain in the box. The deciding factors really came down to weight and size of the reel. If it fit in my hands and felt as light as my abu I knew I would be more comfortable handling it. The third factor was definitely price. I was able to get my Lews TP for 153 dollars from tackle warehouse thanks to their low price match guarantee. Got the reel in this afternoon and spooled it with 12# Yozuri Hybrid and put it on my new Powell Endurance 723C rod. So far I love the way it balances and the Lews TP is slightly slimmer/smaller than my Premier as expected. I was going to go to a golf course for a night session but today was a long one so I'm waking early tomorrow to hit my local pond. Thanks for your help everyone!
BassinLou reply :
Congrats on your new purchase. Enjoy your new toy.
j.bruno reply :
The sticker came off? I dont think there is a sticker on mine. Theres a logo but i didnt think it was a sticker
ipeeinmywetsuit reply :
On 8/4/2012 at 4:35 AM, j.bruno said:The sticker came off? I dont think there is a sticker on mine. Theres a logo but i didnt think it was a sticker
Yeah its the Lew logo.. stuck on with some cheap glue. It looks better w/o it though. I took it out this morning to a little pond and fished from shore. Theres only a couple shore spots that get a lot of pressure so it can be tough at times there but I set the hook on one and the drag wasn't high enough before I could reel up the slack and set the hook again with the drag set higher he jumped and spit the hook out 
hahah. So far I'm loving it though. The reels smooth and I was able to cast clear across the lake from my spot into the thick stuff.
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