Should I Be Upset With P-Line Floroclear? 2024

hoosierbass07 reply :

I went, for the first time, to one of Indiana's best bass lakes - Lake Waveland. My brother and I took the canoe out this evening on the lake.

I still consider myself a newbie to bass fishing. I started this spring. Anyway, I was using a Texas rigged Yum plastic worm and using eight pound P-Line Florclear. After about twenty minutes of casting I thought my lure was snagged. Then the drag started letting line out. And I was confused. I seen a fish jump and I knew I had a bass on the line. So I reeled it up to the canoe and then grabbed the line with my hand and right then the line broke! And this bass was the biggest bass I have ever caught or almost caught!

Now I got thinking - a few weeks ago I was letting my nephew use that same rod and reel with the same line. He caught a big bass bank fishing and when he reeled it to shore I grabbed the line so I could lip the bass. But right then the line broke and the bass jumped back into the water.

So what is the deal here? Am I the cause of the line breaks because I'm grabbing the line with my hand? Is it because I'm using eight pound line? Is it the P-Line Floroclear line? Should I be using ten pound line?

I will admit when I started fishing this spring, the bass I caught could be easily caught on six pound line. Now I've joined a club and have access to larger bass and am using my canoe more to find larger bass. Should I be moving up to ten pound line? My main bass catchers have been two spinning rods, one with eight pound line and one with six pound line.

Also, could it be my knots? I tie the Improved Clinch knot 99% of the time.

I know one thing - I don't want to lose any more big bass because of my line/knots breaking.

Opinions?

David P reply :

Floroclear is P-Line's worst line, one of the worst lines I've ever fished.. It's limp and manageability is GREAT, but strength wise, it's terrible... It breaks, a LOT.

Try a real flourocarbon. P-Line Fluorocarbon, Sunline Sniper FC, P-Line Halo, Trilene 100%. There's tons out there. Floroclear is very weak. Try their flourocarbon instead.

gallowaypt reply :

I agree that the line isn't the best. I've had light line do the same thing when I grabbed the line, so I never do that anymore. When you grab the line, the bass will usually make another run or jump and thrash their head, assuming they have any energy left to expend.There is no drag to let out when you are grabbing the line, resulting in the line break. I just hold the rod back with one hand and lip them with the other.

kschultz76 reply :

Could be the line, could be the knot, hard to say. I've had the opposite experience with it, and find it to be a strong and durable line. Hell I got a bait caught up in a tree limb and nothing I could do would snap the 12lb line I was using. I was turned on to it by a guide in AZ who uses it for all his client gear largemouth and striper fishing. I use 8lb on some of my spinning gear.

One thing that could be contributing is how well you're lubricating your knot, get it good and wet with spit.

I've lost fish in the past grabbing the line like that with other brand lines. I've since learned to not do that.

hoosierbass07 reply :

Well, when I got the eight pound P-line floroclear hung up on brush or something in the past I usually had to pull very hard before the line would break. I will admit I don't like wetting lines and I only wetting the P-Line sometimes. Hmm, the more I think about it, maybe it is the knots that are breaking.

Anyway, I'm going to take it off my spinning reel and put on ten pound Stren mono low-vis green. My brother says Stren has been around for fifty years and is good stuff. I had the P-Line on all summer anyway, time for a change for fall.

motodmast reply :

hey man switch to 8lb yo-zuri. its some excellent line, ill guarante youll love it more than the fluoroclear. and its twice as strong. the yo-zuri 6lb has a breaking strength of like 12lbs, so the 8lb is even higher. is a great line and not to expensive.

hoosierbass07 reply :

I'll have to check out yo-zuri. I don't think the local Gander Mountain sales it though. Have to get it online.

What kind of knots can you tie with yo-zuri? Can the improved clinch knot be used with yo-zuri?

Mr_Scrogg reply :

If you can't find Yozuri Hybrid, then go with some P-Line CXX. It's a copolymer as well, and is tried and true. Gander sells it as well.

SirSnookalot reply :

My only expriences with P-line florclear are using 20# offshore on a conventional reel using an ordinary clinch knot, have caught fish upwards of 50# amberjacks with no breaking issue. I also use that same 20# as leader material for some inshore fishing, snook, bonefish, bluefish and jacks plus bass fishing in Florida canals, again an ordinary clinch knot with no issues. I have had very few negative issues with mono or copoly lines of any brand, I don't recommend of favor any one in particular. When I have a breakage problem it usually isn't the line at fault, it's me. A fish that is allowed to take out drag generally will not break the line, it's when the drag is too tight. Kid yourself not, if you are using line labeled at 6# and it breaks at 12, you are really using 12# test line, should be fine for most spinning reels when bass fishing IMO.

roadwarrior reply :

On 10/4/2013 at 10:04 AM, David P said:

Floroclear is P-Line's worst line, one of the worst lines I've ever fished.. It's limp and manageability is GREAT, but strength wise, it's terrible... It breaks, a LOT.

I had the same experience and many others have, too. Try the Yo-Zuri Hybrid #6 on spinning tackle, #12 for baitcasters.

If you want to try another brand of fluorocarbon, Seaguar is pretty good: InvizX for spinning tackle, AbrazX for baitcasting.

BrianinMD reply :

I have one rod with this line, I didn't switch it to fluro due to top water baits. I have not had a single issue. In each case of it breaking you mentioned grabbing the line, that is something you really don't want to do. With the short length of line between the fish and you hand all the pressure is put there. And if you are not wetting the line every knot that could be contributing also, especially with line grabbing.

hoosierbass07 reply :

Is there any fluorocarbon or hybrid line that does not require to be wetted before cinching the knot? I'm not a fan of using saliva on line. My thinking - if a line is good why do I have to wet it in the first place?

roadwarrior reply :

It's a lubricant. If you don't like spit, use Chapstick.

WRB reply :

Don't blame the line for your mistakes. P Line FluoroClear is a good premium line.

Learn to tie good knots. Re tie knots every few hours fishing and cut off hooks when done fishing for the day.

Pull out the line between your fingers to check for any abrasion, if you feel a rough spot, cut off the line and re tie.

Heavier or larger diameter line doesn't behave well on spinning reels, 8 lb should be OK, if you use a net and avoid grabbing the line. Set your drag at 2 to 2 1/2 lbs and trust the reel drag.

Your problem was grabbing the line and trying to land the bass by had using the line to lift the bass.

Tom

Jrob78 reply :

On 10/5/2013 at 4:44 AM, hoosierbass07 said:
Is there any fluorocarbon or hybrid line that does not require to be wetted before cinching the knot? I'm not a fan of using saliva on line. My thinking - if a line is good why do I have to wet it in the first place?

Friction cause line to heat up. When it heats up, it breaks. Get a bottle of KVD Line and Lure Conditioner and spray your knots before tightening. I would hate for you to get saliva on your line....eew.

Darren. reply :

It is probably the knots you're tying. I use P-Line Floroclear and love it. But I also use Yo-Zuri Hybrid. Both are excellent lines.

My personal opinion is the Floroclear has better coloring (I use mist green) over YZ's camo green. The FC disappears better to my eyes.

But I have caught some hefty bass on P-Line Floroclear with 6, 8, 10, 15 lb test. I've rarely had the line snap on me unless I was into toothy critter areas, or in timber with too-light test.

As well, if you had any snags and hard pulls to free it, it may very well have lost some strength.

Don't think Yo-Zuri Hybrid is THE answer. It isn't. It IS excellent line, but I've had it break on me. On one of my rigs I use YZH 10lb test leaders. My knots don't break, but the line can - any line can.

As well, make sure your drag is set correctly.

So before you strip it off your reel, try using the Palomar, Uni (5-7 wraps), or Snell knots when tying your hooks. Definitely moisten the knots before cinching down.

dave reply :

The only thing I can add to what some have said, is that there is a difference between the strength of a line at a dead pull, and it's "shock" strength. You may be able to pull up a branch with 6# line but, it's shock strength against an improperly set drag will break lots of different brands, tests and types of line.

But yeah, you caused the break off by grabbing the line.

roadwarrior reply :

No...

I quit using this junk because it broke while casting.

Team9nine reply :

On 10/4/2013 at 10:04 AM, David P said:

Floroclear is P-Line's worst line, one of the worst lines I've ever fished.. It's limp and manageability is GREAT, but strength wise, it's terrible... It breaks, a LOT.

Try a real flourocarbon. P-Line Fluorocarbon, Sunline Sniper FC, P-Line Halo, Trilene 100%. There's tons out there. Floroclear is very weak.

As you've seen, like every other line, some people think it's great, and others can't stand it. Throw me in the latter category like David (above) and others. I tried 2 different spools for nearly 6 months and had more unexplained breakoffs in that time than all other lines I've ever fished, combined...finally pulled off all the line and also tossed the remainder of the spools - problem solved. Not saying it's not the greatest line for some, but it will never make it onto a reel I own again. Just not worth trying to figure out the problem when so many other great lines are out there that I've never had issues with. And for the record to reflect that I'm not just a P-Line "hater", I've never had any problem with the several spools of CXX I've tried over the years, from 6# to 17#, or the spool of P-Line (100%) fluorocarbon. They've all been good to me.

-T9

moguy1973 reply :

I use P-Line CX Premium and I really like it. Almost as much if not more than Yo-Zuri Hybrid. It seems to be more manageable and doesn't curl as much as Yo-Zuri does, at least for me...

WRB reply :

On 10/5/2013 at 9:11 AM, roadwarrior said:

No...

I quit using this line because it broke while casting.

If the lines is old or poorly handled then brand has nothing to do with performance.

Tom

SirSnookalot reply :

On 10/5/2013 at 9:11 AM, roadwarrior said:

No...

I quit using this line because it broke while casting.

User error

On 10/5/2013 at 11:09 AM, WRB said:

If the lines is old or poorly handled then brand has nothing to do with performance.

Tom

Agree........have had very few negative issues with any line.

hoosierbass07 reply :

So I yanked off all my P-line floor clear from my spinning reel and baitcaster. Got new line on all three, all lo-vis green mono. 8 pound Stren on one spinning reel. 10 pound Stren on another spinning reel. And 12 pound Sufix Elite on my baitcaster.

aquaholic reply :

How many times have you changed your line out this year?

hoosierbass07 reply :

When I started in the spring I changed out two or three times until I found a good set up - six pound clear Sufix Elite that was my main bass catcher, on a spinning reel. Also eight pound clear P-line floroclear that did the job. But I was mostly fishing at a lake/reservoir state park bank fishing and those lines could handle the bass. As summer has moved forward I have found more and more places to fish that have larger bass.

Looking back over the summer, I remember a few more times when that Floroclear broke. I remember using that six pound mono Sufix in early spring and holding the line in my hand with a bass on the line and it not breaking.

I'm starting to think that Sufix mono line is very good mono. I'm starting to get suspicious of fluorocarbon and knot problems.

Loop_Dad reply :

With fluorocarbon, if you don't tie a good knot it breaks. Not wetting the knot while you tie one is a big no-no with fluorocarbon. I check my knot by visually inspecting and by giving a good pull after I tie one.

If all of these are too much, then you are probably not ready for fluorocarbon yet. Stick with mono for now.

aquaholic reply :

On 10/6/2013 at 2:38 PM, hoosierbass07 said:

When I started in the spring I changed out two or three times until I found a good set up - six pound clear Sufix Elite that was my main bass catcher, on a spinning reel. Also eight pound clear P-line floroclear that did the job. But I was mostly fishing at a lake/reservoir state park bank fishing and those lines could handle the bass. As summer has moved forward I have found more and more places to fish that have larger bass.

Looking back over the summer, I remember a few more times when that Floroclear broke. I remember using that six pound mono Sufix in early spring and holding the line in my hand with a bass on the line and it not breaking.

I'm starting to think that Sufix mono line is very good mono. I'm starting to get suspicious of fluorocarbon and knot problems.

6lb test should be sufficient for most bass when your drag is set correctly. The fact that you are not wetting the line and pulling a fish out of water by the line is the issue. What knot are you using?

hoosierbass07 reply :

I'm down to two knots - improved clinch knot and palomar knot. Since I always use the improved clinch knot while Texas Rigging fishing, 99% of my bass have been on the improved clinch knot.

hoosierbass07 reply :

I should add that none of my lines have broke while reeling in the bass. It's always been right at shore or on shore when I grabbed the line. That goes for both the six pound Sufix and eight pound floroclear. So I guess it is me more than the line.

So I will have to learn to keep my hands off the line. I find it difficult to hold the reel by the handle with one hand and stretch to lip the bass with my other hand. How is it safely done?

Mr_Scrogg reply :

On 10/7/2013 at 3:44 AM, hoosierbass07 said:

I should add that none of my lines have broke while reeling in the bass. It's always been right at shore or on shore when I grabbed the line. That goes for both the six pound Sufix and eight pound floroclear. So I guess it is me more than the line.

So I will have to learn to keep my hands off the line. I find it difficult to hold the reel by the handle with one hand and stretch to lip the bass with my other hand. How is it safely done?

Net them.

NorcalBassin reply :

I'm one of the few that has had really good success with the Floroclear. I've since transitioned away from it in favor of Yozuri hybrid (strong as can be) and straight fluorocarbon, but I never had any breakage issues with anything from 4-12 lb.

David P reply :

On 10/7/2013 at 11:25 AM, NorcalBassin said:
I'm one of the few that has had really good success with the Floroclear. I've since transitioned away from it in favor of Yozuri hybrid (strong as can be) and straight fluorocarbon, but I never had any breakage issues with anything from 4-12 lb.

Jeez. So strange cause I've never ever had any issues with any other line, I even didn't mind Vanish and people hated it. I broke off so many times with fluoroclear it drove me nuts. This was many years ago, maybe bad batch or older line, who knows, but it stunk for me. Glad to hear others dont' have such bad things to say about it.

NorcalBassin reply :

Yeah, I'd like to say that's the case (bad batch/old line) but I've heard way too many stories about problems for it to be just a handful of random bad batches. I think I've probably just been lucky...

THE BASS WHISPERER reply :

Ive got a 3000 spool of 12lbs and love it! ive never had any problems with it. But then again im not grabbing the line either! i think thats your problem , along with the 6 lbs test!!!

Hooligan reply :

P-line fluoroclear is one of the lowest tensile strength lines out there. It has terrible reviews from a wide variety of sources and it has never been well received on the main.

Part of the problem, I'm sure, is pilot error. As has been stated already, lube your knots. Try to avoid lifting a fish with your hand on the line. It can add a lot of shock to the line in a hurry.

Bluebasser86 reply :

I've had few problems with fluoroclear but I have had a couple times it broke for no apparent reason. In the OP's case it really sounds to me like the fish broke the line because he grabbed the line. A net or a pair of grippers will solve that problem.

hoosierbass07 reply :

What size of net for bass should I buy?

bigfishbk86 reply :

On 10/8/2013 at 6:06 PM, hoosierbass07 said:
What size of net for bass should I buy?

Dude, WET YOUR KNOTS

Darren. reply :

On 10/9/2013 at 6:49 AM, bigfishbk86 said:
Dude, WET YOUR KNOTS

He can do that AND wet his knots. No problem using a net. I use one and it has saved me from losing bass a few times.

Don't need a huge net, heck, a trout net would help in a pinch.

jerzeeD reply :

I use P-line flouroclear on my crankbait setup and love it. First problem, move up to 10 lb. Test. The line diameter is your REAL concern, not test rating. This line is generally thinner in diameter than comparable lines of the same lb. Test rating. I have all spinning rigs. My crankbait setup uses 12 lb. Flouroclear.... While I have 3 other full time setups that use P-line CX. 2 of them use 12 lb. CX, and 1 uses 15 lb CX. Once again, all spinning setups and no manageability issues on any of them. LOL.... Most other 15 lb. lines would coil off the spool of your standard bass sized spinning reels. ( in this case a 35 size Pflueger medalist) but not this stuff.

Cgrinder reply :

On 10/8/2013 at 6:06 PM, hoosierbass07 said:
What size of net for bass should I buy?

I got a rubber-netting one from Dick's for like $40 and I believe it extends to six feet. Plenty big for bass. I would get the biggest one you can keep around, really. Here in Pike Country, nets save fingers, line, and lures!

Creekcrappie reply :

I just lost my brand new shad rap using fluroclear. Took it all off that night.

Graham reply :

I have one of my reels spooled with fluoroclear and have never had an issue. I don’t hoist fish by the line though (especially fish of good size). Try avoiding that and see if it helps.

bagofdonuts reply :

with any floro you should use a knot that doubles the line to reduce slipping. I use an improved cinch knot, but double the line going through the hook eye then tie the improved cinch with the doubled line. never had that knot fail, but i wet it, tighten it the same way each time, and inspect it. If it's not clean and neat looking I cut it off and retie. you should also check your line fairly often for nicks, if you feel one, cut it off and retie.

catching big bass is about being prepared when one bites.

NYWayfarer reply :

Old thread but interesting to see if anyone's opinions have changed.

I started using P-Line Floroclear this year for Trout fishing. I am using 4lb line and have had no issues so far. Sprayed it with reel snot when I spooled it onto my reel.

Caught 5 Trout, 3 on inline spinners, 2 on Berkley Powerbait. No breaks so far and I only retied twice. I use a palomar knot and wet the line before cinching it.

I have been able to lift the Trout out of the water and onto shore with no issues. So far I am happy.

J Francho reply :

Why are we digging up five year old threads?

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