$100 Pflueger Patriarch Or Shimano Curado 2024
bass1980 reply :
For $100 which of the two would you guys get? Got a coworker and a local guy selling these. Pflueger is brand new and Curado was used a few times only.
Brand new the Flueger cost about $50 more. Just haven't found much info on the net about the Partriach durability.
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
LMG where are you LOL?
I would go with the Curado, and I don't care what seires they are E or G seires. No contest IMO. Infact, I would go with a Citica E over the Patriarch.
roadwarrior reply :
I would probably go with the Shimano
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deep reply :
Which one is the Shimano?
LgMouthGambler reply :
Why do people post these questions? Its an obvious answer. Put the S on your chest and be done with it.
bass1980 reply :
I think that was a fair question since the Pflueger is a $200 reel and the Curado E is said to be not as great as the older models and retails at $159.
Well I guess I know what to get then unless we have some People that can vouch for The Patriach.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Im just bustin chops bud. But seriously, dont be a fool, use the right tool.On 10/23/2012 at 9:54 PM, bass1980 said:I think that was a fair question since the Pflueger is a $200 reel and the Curado E is said to be not as great as the older models and retails at $159.
Well I guess I know what to get then unless we have some People that can vouch for The Patriach.
bass1980 reply :
Plus the Patriarch spinning reel has great reviews but I like that slogan put a S on your chest.
Jim_M reply :
Simple.
Pick one and fish 
*Hootie reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 9:23 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Why do people post these questions? Its an obvious answer. Put the S on your chest and be done with it.
Get the Curado. There LMG, I said it. Ya happy, huh, ya happy???.......lol
Hootie
Diggy reply :
You can read reviews of each on tw, bps and tackletour. They have tested these reels.
I think the curado will give you less headache based on some reviews I read on backlashing with the Patriarch...even with dual brakes. Some people said they couldnt get it to backlash. Shimanos are easy to dial and repair if needed in so less worries there imo.
The Patriarch has a more durable finish, people say it is ultrasmooth but is heavier than the curado. Many reported over 2 years of use no probs.
You, buy the curado
If it were up to me, Id find a way to buy both if possible =).....but
Personally I like to try out different reels so Id probably get the Pflueger, I know I can find another curado cheap at some point, Ive seen them new for 100 at times.
Ima Bass Ninja reply :
Pflueger patriarch. Done deal
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 9:54 PM, bass1980 said:I think that was a fair question since the Pflueger is a $200 reel and the Curado E is said to be not as great as the older models and retails at $159.
Well I guess I know what to get then unless we have some People that can vouch for The Patriach.
Higher cost does not ensure better quality. What makes you feel the E series is not as good as the older series?
new2BC4bass reply :
Too many Shimano guys here! I'd get the Patriarch. I have an XT and love it....but love my Curado 51E as well. However, I tend to travel the least used paths....as well as the main thoroughfares.
I have to wonder if some of these guys give their opinions based on comments from other posters, or if they have used the gear in question. Or if they favor brand Y because that is what they use. I know I often pass along information I've read, tho I try to make it understood that it is not from personal experience when I do.
I haven't used any of my reels enough to comment on durability. My 51E is new and sings on the cast. The Chronarch 101A I got for my daughter is as quiet as any of my other reels. The XT is fairly hard to backlash, but then so is the centrifugal brakes on the Shimano reels. I liked what I read about Chronarchs enough to have picked up a 101A and 100B for myself, tho they still haven't been spooled due to the fact that this year has really sucked for me as far as getting out to fish. I have used the 51E each time I went out, tho. And the new Smallmouth Tech Elite it went on.
I personally think the Pfluegers are under-rated, but that is based on my experience with only one reel, so to be honest that is not enough to make that statement with any kind of certainty. Based on one reel I could say that all Curados are noisy on the cast, but I know for a fact that isn't true as I have a friend with some. I have read several reviews on the Patriarch , and they were all positive. One mentioned how well it handled spinnerbaits for 1/8 oz to 1 ounce. Nice!
EDIT: Wow! Half dozen people posted while I was typing.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Um.......yes? LolOn 10/23/2012 at 10:01 PM, hootiebenji said:Get the Curado. There LMG, I said it. Ya happy, huh, ya happy???.......lol
Hootie
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 9:57 PM, bass1980 said:Plus the Patriarch spinning reel has great reviews but I like that slogan put a S on your chest.
Don't compare spinning and bait cast reels.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 10:18 PM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:Higher cost does not ensure better quality. What makes you feel the E series is not as good as the older series?
What happen to "You get what you pay for."?
*Hootie reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 10:31 PM, new2BC4bass said:What happen to "You get what you pay for."?
As I stated on another post, " if only that were true".
Nothing is always, or never. You can only hope to get what you pay for.
Hootie
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 10:31 PM, new2BC4bass said:What happen to "You get what you pay for."?
That usually is but true, but not always. Like anything else, there are too many variables.
I'll also add that I feel this to be true when staying within the same brand. If you compare a Citica to a Curado the Curado costs more, and is better. Now comparing Shimano to another brand, this no longer applies.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Took the words right out of my mouth, lol.On 10/23/2012 at 10:47 PM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:That usually is but true, but not always. Like anything else, there are too many variables.
I'll also add that I feel this to be true when staying within the same brand. If you compare a Citica to a Curado the Curado costs more, and is better. Now comparing Shimano to another brand, this no longer applies.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
If the Curado is an E series a comparable new reel is the chronarch which goes for $200. The G series retails for less. $100 for a new Patriarch is a good deal. Both are well built and will last if cared for. Take a rod and mount each reel and see which one feels best and choose based on that.
K_Mac reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 9:59 PM, Jim_M said:Simple.
Pick one and fish
Yep!
At this level it is more about what feels best to you. With proper maintenance either reel should serve you fine. FWIW I like dual braking...
deaknh03 reply :
I have both, and love both. Handle both and go with your gut, you can't lose.
Arv reply :
At $100 that's a really good deal. The Curado is also obviously a great reel. I don't think you could go wrong with either one.
McAlpine reply :
Between the two get the patriarch. It's a great reel and under-appreciated.
However; if it were me for $100 ea I would buy both.
Long Mike reply :
I have four Patriarch baitcasters and will soon be in the market for two more. All four of my spinning rigs are Pfleuger Presidents. I don't own a Shimano and never will. Shimano probably makes good stuff, but I've found the reels I love and will stick with them.
new2BC4bass reply :
In case you haven't read tackletour's review of the Patriarch. http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpfluegerpatriarch.html
roadwarrior reply :
On 10/24/2012 at 3:23 AM, Long Mike said:I have four Patriarch baitcasters and will soon be in the market for two more. All four of my spinning rigs are Pfleuger Presidents. I don't own a Shimano and never will. Shimano probably makes good stuff, but I've found the reels I love and will stick with them.
He wouldn't even fish mine when his was busted!
jignfule reply :
The Plueger is an excellent reel, but compare to the Shimano in comes in a close second. IMO
bass1980 reply :
On 10/23/2012 at 10:18 PM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:Higher cost does not ensure better quality. What makes you feel the E series is not as good as the older series?
I'm sorry guys, the Curado is a G series. I think I had typed E series. It probably wouldn't matter on people's opinion anways. I was looking at it from a value stand point. A top of the line Pflueger for half price, and still new. If the reel is not a total bust and still near the top of it's class then this is probably a great deal too. However the Curado G with still relatively new, is also a great deal at $100. I think I'm going to get the curado and hope to sell some things off to get the Pflueger too!!! Thanks fro the many response.
00 mod reply :
On 10/24/2012 at 4:04 AM, roadwarrior said:He wouldn't even fish mine when his was busted!
And your didn't bust under the same scenarios? Hmm.....
Jeff
Long Mike reply :
On 10/24/2012 at 7:57 AM, 00 mod said:And your didn't bust under the same scenarios? Hmm.....
Jeff
Hey Numb Muts, it was a problem with my line, not with my reel. Operator error.
00 mod reply :
On 10/24/2012 at 8:18 AM, Long Mike said:Hey Numb Muts, it was a problem with my line, not with my reel. Operator error.
Oooohh. Testy testy in your defense of your floppy-doppy-doo.
Jeff
kickerfish1 reply :
Once you start talking about quality reels (lets say $100 or more form reference) you really can't go wrong with many of today's reels. The differences lie in personal preference and intended techniques used. Does one reel out last the other? Does one cast further than the other? These are questions that are difficult to measure. Is one reel lighter than the other? Does one feel more comfortable than the other? Is the retrieve any smoother? These are things that can be measured but also boil down to individual angler preference.
If you have access to a tackle shop where the reels can be compared side by side, I would highly suggest this. Figure out which reel YOU prefer and DONT be swayed but others opinions.
roadwarrior reply :
On 10/24/2012 at 9:53 AM, kickerfish1 said:Figure out which reel YOU prefer and DONT be swayed but others opinions.
Well, "right out of the box" doesn't really tell you much, most reels feel pretty good new,
The advice of our membership is a much better guide, although it can be confusing and
contradictory. The equipment I use has a history of proven performance: Smooth, strong,
silent and reliant. I have been fishing many of my reels for more than a decade. These reels
perform better today than the day I took them out of the box.
LgMouthGambler reply :
I wonder what brand that is?On 10/24/2012 at 11:22 PM, roadwarrior said:Well, "right out of the box" doesn't really tell you much, most reels feel pretty good new,
The advice of our membership is a much better guide, although it can be confusing and
contradictory. The equipment I use has a history of proven performance: Smooth, strong,
silent and reliant. I have been fishing many of my reels for more than a decade. These reels
perform better today than the day I took them out of the box.
roadwarrior reply :
WARNING!
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LgMouthGambler reply :
Lol.On 10/25/2012 at 1:19 AM, roadwarrior said:WARNING!
Get your next punch in before the page runs out...Irene is warming up!
kickerfish1 reply :
On 10/24/2012 at 11:22 PM, roadwarrior said:Well, "right out of the box" doesn't really tell you much, most reels feel pretty good new,
The advice of our membership is a much better guide, although it can be confusing and
contradictory. The equipment I use has a history of proven performance: Smooth, strong,
silent and reliant. I have been fishing many of my reels for more than a decade. These reels
perform better today than the day I took them out of the box.
I agree that smoothness can diminish over time. The point of my post was for the OP to make his own decision without feeling like he has to get what a few "strong voices" suggest. I am partial to shimano and Daiwa, but have fished many other brands and can relate to the decision making process. Basically for $100-$150 you can gets a great reel today with very minor differences among manufacturers. If he could put the reels he is considering on the intended rod he plans to use it with he can gauge for how it feels and palms and what feels more comfortable.
RW... I very much see where you are coming from but by reading the responses on this board lately, you would think that your only options are an Abu or Shimano. There alot of guys out there using BPS, Daiwa, Lews, Okuma, etc... that are very happy with the product.
roadwarrior reply :
I would like to get Pinnacle into the mix, too!
http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-optimus-xlt-dhc-review.html
tomustang reply :
Best way to do it is get both.
Buy from the local guy.
Tell your friend you're interested in the reel and try to do payments on it.
Long Mike reply :
The problem with this forum is that there are four or five guys who continually try to shove Shimano down everyone's throat while knowing that there are a number of other options available, equally as good, or better.
LgMouthGambler reply :
This thread was Shimano or Pflueger, right? So, what is the other option here other than............. I think there were some other companies mentioned, just saying. If it was that more people on here fished Abu, then it would be another story. We that fish Shimano know how good they really are, you cant blame us for that.
Long Mike reply :
My comment was off-topic. I was talking about this Forum in general. My apologies.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Oh, OK. No problem.
PaddleOut reply :
I have both. If the Curado is an "E" series get it. The only thing I like about the Patriarch is how smooth it retrieves. It doesn't cast as far as the old Presidents imo. However, the Curado has light spool that helps casting light lures. It's pretty dependable. I guess I'm turning into a Shimanoite myself. I bought 3 Citica 200E's on clearance. It's just a good bass reel.
tomustang reply :
On 10/25/2012 at 8:26 AM, Long Mike said:The problem with this forum is that there are four or five guys who continually try to shove Shimano down everyone's throat while knowing that there are a number of other options available, equally as good, or better.
I'd go and tell a moderator about this, wait it would probably end up in your own inbox 
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