I am now going to start a Quantum reel and G.Loomis posse. Anytime a poster asks a question about any rod or reel that does not include Quantum or G.Loomis, I am going to recommend them. I will also insinuate that they are wasting their money if they don't purchase Quantum or G.Loomis, because all other gear is inferior to these.
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I dig it. I don't use Quantum, but I'm down with you sticking up for your brand. I own 90% Daiwa with a couple of Shimano's thrown in the mix, but it's all opinion. There are no facts on brand longevity other than anglers own experiences, and some have had great experiences with Quantum or Pfluegur.
Good luck with that. :
QuoteGood luck with that. :
Ok, so Burley's not known to sugar coat ;D
Sounds like we are sure to have an all out posse war
QuoteI am now going to start a Quantum reel and G.Loomis posse. Anytime a poster asks a question about any rod or reel that does not include Quantum or G.Loomis, I am going to recommend them. I will also insinuate that they are wasting their money if they don't purchase Quantum or G.Loomis, because all other gear is inferior to these.:
It bothers you that much? You gotta just skip past those threads.
Don't you mean Shimano and Loomis?
Top of the line for reels and rods?
And what about Kistlers? They are excellent.
So maybe your posse should be Zebco and Loomis?
Or Quantum and Ugly Stick?
Just food for thought.
Shimano and G Loomis. All I have ,All I want. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quantum/Loomis, Quantum/Carrots. Does it get any better? Nope! 8-)
The G.Loomis posse has been around for quite a while, you can defile a nice rod with any Quantum reel you want.
BTW- along with my Shimanos I have (and fish with) at least one Quantum, Pflueger and ABU. I keep them so I can pick on everyone.
Ronnie
I've tried to join the Shimano posse a couple of times. But I can't seem to keep it going. I sold my green Curado BSF because it sucked. I sold my Cardiffs because they wouldn't cast. I gave away my Spirex because it was too heavy. And I just sold my Curado 200 DHSVs because they were too big.
I can't find a Shimano I like as well as my Abus.
Geez Micro, did you even fish those Curado's? Didn't have them long, did you? They are just too heavy.
The G.Loomis posse is old hat, but a quantum posse??...I don't think so.
I heard that even the sheriff bailed out (jk)
Roger
Guys, I am just trying to make a point. I like and have Abu Garcia, Quantum, Daiwa, Shimano, Plueger, Shakespeare, Berkley, Zebco, St.Croix, G.Loomis, BPS, and Browning gear. I am partial to a couple of these brands, but I do not try to shove them down people's throats. I like to try different brands and have been satisfied most of the time. One example is my Shimano Symetre that I love, but if someone asks about a Cardinal or Dimension, I am not going to suggest Symetre. It is so annoying on here to see a question that asks about specific gear that does not include Shimano, and then the posse shows up. They insinuate that if the person doesn't get Shimano, they are wasting their money. One post a little while back asked specifically about Abu Rounds and $80, within 15 minutes, a posse member had posted they should save their money and get a Calcutta. The posse has even suggested the Coriolis(one of the best paperweights that Shimano has even made) over the AG Max series. Now, if someone does not specify, heck yeah, say Shimano all the way. Understand that some people want to be able to purchase 2 good setups for a decent amount of money, not one reel that they may or may not be happy with. I know alot of you did not start out buying Shimano Curados and G.Loomis GLXs. You were just like me and others; you had a Zebco 33 combo, or Lightning Rod and AG 5000. And these served you well until you could afford better gear. The point is that whatever gear someone gets, a least it is getting them on the water and fishing. Which is why we are all here, right?
QuoteSounds like we are sure to have an all out posse war
ABU GARCIA FOR LIFE! 8-)
call me crazy but ive never noticed a posse. half the time i just read the post and dont even notice whos doing the posting half the time.
i whole heartedly agree with what you are saying, i am a loyal shimano user but when someone does keep posting the same thing over and over it does get annoying.QuoteGuys, I am just trying to make a point. I like and have Abu Garcia, Quantum, Daiwa, Shimano, Plueger, Shakespeare, Berkley, Zebco, St.Croix, G.Loomis, BPS, and Browning gear. I am partial to a couple of these brands, but I do not try to shove them down people's throats. I like to try different brands and have been satisfied most of the time. One example is my Shimano Symetre that I love, but if someone asks about a Cardinal or Dimension, I am not going to suggest Symetre. It is so annoying on here to see a question that asks about specific gear that does not include Shimano, and then the posse shows up. They insinuate that if the person doesn't get Shimano, they are wasting their money. One post a little while back asked specifically about Abu Rounds and $80, within 15 minutes, a posse member had posted they should save their money and get a Calcutta. The posse has even suggested the Coriolis(one of the best paperweights that Shimano has even made) over the AG Max series. Now, if someone does not specify, heck yeah, say Shimano all the way. Understand that some people want to be able to purchase 2 good setups for a decent amount of money, not one reel that they may or may not be happy with. I know alot of you did not start out buying Shimano Curados and G.Loomis GLXs. You were just like me and others; you had a Zebco 33 combo, or Lightning Rod and AG 5000. And these served you well until you could afford better gear. The point is that whatever gear someone gets, a least it is getting them on the water and fishing. Which is why we are all here, right?
one thing ive noticed is with all the new posters the same question gets asked a lot.
Putting a Quantum reel on a Loomis is kinda like putting a Chevy motor in a Mustang....
It just ain't right... :-X
Putting a Quantum reel on a Loomis is kinda like putting a Chevy motor in a Mustang....
It just ain't right...
Nice, what about a Quantum on the new St. Croix Lengend Tournament (TBC70MHF). Just bought one about an hour ago....SWEET Rod!!!
QuotePutting a Quantum reel on a Loomis is kinda like putting a Chevy motor in a Mustang....It just ain't right... :-X
yeah, I understand that, but to get performance out of that mustang, what other options do you have. ;D
QuoteQuotePutting a Quantum reel on a Loomis is kinda like putting a Chevy motor in a Mustang....It just ain't right... :-X
yeah, I understand that, but to get performance out of that mustang, what other options do you have. ;D
BURN!
QuoteThey are just too heavy.
Man you girls are sensitive... :-X
QuoteQuotePutting a Quantum reel on a Loomis is kinda like putting a Chevy motor in a Mustang....It just ain't right... :-X
yeah, I understand that, but to get performance out of that mustang, what other options do you have. ;D
Wanna put some money behind that statement?
I might. I just gotta get a Chevy first , just trying to stir the pot to see who bit. Looks like I gotcha. I drive a 90 Volvo 240, that I am plenty happy with, so it might be a few years. I do have a 96 S-10 though.
Quantums are great reels. I have 10 of them that I use for my boat anchor.
QuoteI have 10 of them that I use for my boat anchor.
Wouldn't have buying a boat anchor been cheaper? :
QuoteQuoteI have 10 of them that I use for my boat anchor.Wouldn't have buying a boat anchor been cheaper? :
Not when you can find relatively new Quantums for less than what a pound of scrap is going for.
I think there should be a sticky about:
"Before you ask about opinions on what rods or reels to buy...
1....
2.....
etc."
People starting the thread get belted with brands and models. But helping the person decide for him/herself is more helpful for everyone. Maybe some tips on how to get an idea of rod sensitivity on the sales floor, or how to check for reel tolerances. None of these are guarantees that he/she will like it out on the water, but neither does my or your telling them they will. If they still post a question on brand and model, then blast away. Let the posse loose.
Obviously, you can pick a reputable brand off the top of your head and you'll find, through varying degrees of personal experience, both sides of build and performance for each. I am sure someone hated the Curado because they got a defective one out of the box, but loves the Revo because it wasn't bad out of the box. I am sure someone replaced all their Curados for Revos because they found themselves using it more often on more than a handful of trips. In both instances, you'll may get a post that says, "Hated my Curado, bought the Revo and will never look back."
I remember reading a few posts where it was actually suggested that they go to a retailer and handle the available equipment to see what felt right to them. That's awesome... because that's how those of us with the boneyard full of tackle we don't use did it. They just need to know what we've learned to look for along the way.
You know the "Give the fish, Teach to fish" thing.
The best thing a person can do is buy it and use it. Don't go by what someone else says.
There are tons of deals to be had here in the Flea Market. Buy a reel, try it. If you like it, keep it. If you don't, sell it.
QuoteQuoteThey are just too heavy.Man you girls are sensitive... :-X
Geez....I guess so :
QuoteQuoteQuoteThey are just too heavy.Man you girls are sensitive... :-X
Geez....I guess so :
I'd love to have a dollar every time someone called a 9.9 oz. reel 'HEAVY'. :-X
QuoteQuoteQuoteI have 10 of them that I use for my boat anchor.Wouldn't have buying a boat anchor been cheaper? :
Not when you can find relatively new Quantums for less than what a pound of scrap is going for.
QuoteGuys, I am just trying to make a point. I like and have Abu Garcia, Quantum, Daiwa, Shimano, Plueger, Shakespeare, Berkley, Zebco, St.Croix, G.Loomis, BPS, and Browning gear. I am partial to a couple of these brands, but I do not try to shove them down people's throats....It is so annoying on here to see a question that asks about specific gear that does not include Shimano, and then the posse shows up.
Busted:
Re: Shimano Curado vs. Johnny Morris signature ???
Reply #24 - Feb 22nd 2008 at 22:54:08
I wouldn't even consider either one. You should get a Quantum Tour Edition PT or Energy PT.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1203641286/24#24
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QuoteI'd love to have a dollar every time someone called a 9.9 oz. reel 'HEAVY'. :-X
We don't have to call it heavy, if it will help out. We can just casually refer to it as being heavier than it's competition. That sounds better right?
Here's the reality behind it though....If you fish with nothing else, you won't notice the weight of the Curado/Citica. The problems arise when you have other brands in your fleet and alternate use with the Curado/Citica. Well, this is when I notice it most anyway.
But yeah, again you are right....It's not "heavy" it's just heavier than what everyone else offers. 8-) Although, there is the option of the 100 series which is nice.
QuoteQuoteGuys, I am just trying to make a point. I like and have Abu Garcia, Quantum, Daiwa, Shimano, Plueger, Shakespeare, Berkley, Zebco, St.Croix, G.Loomis, BPS, and Browning gear. I am partial to a couple of these brands, but I do not try to shove them down people's throats....It is so annoying on here to see a question that asks about specific gear that does not include Shimano, and then the posse shows up.Busted:
Re: Shimano Curado vs. Johnny Morris signature ???
Reply #24 - Feb 22nd 2008 at 22:54:08
I wouldn't even consider either one. You should get a Quantum Tour Edition PT or Energy PT.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1203641286/24#24
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Sometimes it's better not to speak, just sometimes.
roadwarrior and bass brat, I made that post after declaring the Quantum/G.Loomis posse. I was trying to make a point by posting that, but I guess the point is lost on the Shimano posse. Several members got my point when I made those posts, most did not. I was mirroring what you guys do everytime someone asks about non-Shimano gear, "don't get x-brand, get a Curado or Citica". I respect your choices, but do not agree with them. This thread demonstrates the mentallity about gear on this forum.
roadwarrior, here is a great example, note the fourth reply
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1188280926/8#8
Well, nevermind. You guys keep telling people to buy gear they don't ask about, and some of us will keep trying to help them with their actual questions.
One more thing, the Shimano posse( in particular roadwarrior) have been helpful to me when I have asked about Shimano products. I purchased my favorite spinning reel due to it, a Symetre 2500 Rear, that I absolutely love. The thing is that I asked specifically about two different Shimano reels. The responses were excellent and appreciated. The peculiar thing is that not a single comment came from another brand supporter telling me to get this or that.
Well, I am cancelling the Quantum posse(still in the G.Loomis though). I think I might start a true Zebco posse, devoted to 808 propoganda.
QuoteQuoteI'd love to have a dollar every time someone called a 9.9 oz. reel 'HEAVY'. :-X
We don't have to call it heavy, if it will help out. We can just casually refer to it as being heavier than it's competition. That sounds better right?
Here's the reality behind it though....If you fish with nothing else, you won't notice the weight of the Curado/Citica. The problems arise when you have other brands in your fleet and alternate use with the Curado/Citica. Well, this is when I notice it most anyway.
But yeah, again you are right....It's not "heavy" it's just heavier than what everyone else offers. 8-) Although, there is the option of the 100 series which is nice.
I fish with everything. Have more than a few 100 series Citicas. The 200 isn't 'heavy'. :-/
basspaddler,
I agree with you in principal. The referenced quote from me was dated August 2007. In December I suggested, specifically to the Shimano Possee, that people stop proping "their brands" on the threads asking about other brands. This is not a Foum policy and is not moderated. However, I have tried to abide by this guideline.
8-)
Quoteroadwarrior and bass brat, I made that post after declaring the Quantum/G.Loomis posse. I was trying to make a point by posting that, but I guess the point is lost on the Shimano posse. Several members got my point when I made those posts, most did not. I was mirroring what you guys do everytime someone asks about non-Shimano gear, "don't get x-brand, get a Curado or Citica". I respect your choices, but do not agree with them. This thread demonstrates the mentallity about gear on this forum.roadwarrior, here is a great example, note the fourth reply
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1188280926/8#8
Well, nevermind. You guys keep telling people to buy gear they don't ask about, and some of us will keep trying to help them with their actual questions.
I don't belong to any d--- possee ! My fishing gear consists of shimano products , quantum products , dawia products, and last but not least pflueger products. If you think I Try to ram any particular product down some ones throat , you are sadly mistaken.
I fish whatever's in the boat. However, I dig the Carrot Stix, can't wait to try this new Revo that's on the way, and I like my Stradics....oh yeah, then there's the Daiwa Sol.....oh geez. I don't fit in anywhere! ;D
I'm starting the Stella/Ugly Stick posse next....
QuoteI fish with everything. Have more than a few 100 series Citicas. The 200 isn't 'heavy'. :-/
I already agreed with you on that point. So again, you are right....it's not heavy, it's just heavier than others. It's only 2.5 oz heavier than the 100. It's only 1.3 oz heavier than my favorite, the Castaic. It's only 1.1 oz heavier than my Revo SX and TD-A's.... et al. The Curado 200 is a great reel to a good many satisfied people. I'm not saying it's a piece of scrap or condemning their choice. I will say though that my feelings are the 200 seemingly represents the upper limit in weight of the most common choices in bait cast reels today. Some may take that into consideration, some may not. Judging by it's extreme popularity I'd say most don't care about the weight. I just happen to be somebody that factors weight into my choices. I wish I could afford to run with the Steez and Core crowd, but I can't. The Revo Premier is the best I'm going do.
Quotebasspaddler,I agree with you in principal. The referenced quote from me was dated August 2007. In December I suggested, specifically to the Shimano Possee, that people stop proping "their brands" on the threads asking about other brands. This is not a Foum policy and is not moderated. However, I have tried to abide by this guideline.
8-)
I agree with you Roadwarrior. I remember the December post, but not much has changed. This should not be moderated by the moderators. It should be moderated by the members before they make a post.
Bass brat, I did not mean to include you in the possee. I apologize for the negative connotations that I alluded too. You responded to RW post, so I responded.
I apologize to everyone for causing the stir. I justed wanted the members to see the silliness that can come from brand talk. There are new members everyday asking questions about gear, and they need good sound advice, not brand wars. Many times that is exactly what happens though, a brand war. That does nothing for the original poster, but cause confusion and sometimes disgust. There are plenty of places on the net for brand supporters and devotees.
QuoteQuotebasspaddler,I agree with you in principal. The referenced quote from me was dated August 2007. In December I suggested, specifically to the Shimano Possee, that people stop proping "their brands" on the threads asking about other brands. This is not a Foum policy and is not moderated. However, I have tried to abide by this guideline.
8-)
I agree with you Roadwarrior. I remember the December post, but not much has changed. This should not be moderated by the moderators. It should be moderated by the members before they make a post.
Bass brat, I did not mean to include you in the possee. I apologize for the negative connotations that I alluded too. You responded to RW post, so I responded.
I apologize to everyone for causing the stir. I justed wanted the members to see the silliness that can come from brand talk. There are new members everyday asking questions about gear, and they need good sound advice, not brand wars. Many times that is exactly what happens though, a brand war. That does nothing for the original poster, but cause confusion and sometimes disgust. There are plenty of places on the net for brand supporters and devotees.
You brought up some good points.
I think you ("you" being anyone who cares about "posses") need to unbunch your panties.
You ask about a brand or two, someone suggests something else, and you get all worked up? Who cares? Just disregard the suggestion.
QuoteI think you ("you" being anyone who cares about "posses") need to unbunch your panties.You ask about a brand or two, someone suggests something else, and you get all worked up? Who cares? Just disregard the suggestion.
That's exactly what I was thinking. :-X