I was very close to buying a couple today with the sales on TW but didn't know if my rod could handle them... I was gonna try fishing them on a MH/F with 50lb braid that's rated for 1/4oz - 3/4oz baits. I know the 8.0 is 3/4oz so it'd be at the top weight range for my rod. I think it would be okay for fishing them but wasn't 100% confident... What are y'all throwing it on?
I'd try a 7'MH/F but with a mono or fluoro instead of braid. You'll already be pulling the bait away faster than with a regular crankbait rod because of the fast action, and I think the braid would just be too much. That's just me though. It's still up to you.On 12/1/2014 at 11:25 AM, Catch and Grease said:I was very close to buying a couple today with the sales on TW but didn't know if my rod could handle them... I was gonna try fishing them on a MH/F with 50lb braid that's rated for 1/4oz - 3/4oz baits. I know the 8.0 is 3/4oz so it'd be at the top weight range for my rod. I think it would be okay for fishing them but wasn't 100% confident... What are y'all throwing it on?
7' 6" MH/F flipping stick and 20lb Pline. It's a big, big squarebill that I could probably throw on my deep cranking rod but I don't want to fish it on 10lb test and like to fish it around heavier cover like any other squarebill so the big rod should help move fish.
If I were gonna get them I'd probably use my champ 734 until i got the 706cb. You would need something with a lot of power
On 12/1/2014 at 4:09 PM, Bluebasser86 said:7' 6" MH/F flipping stick and 20lb Pline. It's a big, big squarebill that I could probably throw on my deep cranking rod but I don't want to fish it on 10lb test and like to fish it around heavier cover like any other squarebill so the big rod should help move fish.
What specific rod it it your using, just curious...
On 12/1/2014 at 8:12 PM, Catch and Grease said:What specific rod it it your using, just curious...
An Academy Ethos rod
When you get into big cranks with big hooks, size 1 or bigger, a cranking rod is no longer needed as the big hooks penetrate and you actually need more backbone to drive the hooks into the fish's mouth. That said, don't be afraid to use a heavy power rod with the magnum square bill.
On 12/1/2014 at 8:33 PM, Bluebasser86 said:An Academy Ethos rod
Very under rated rods but very nice rods at a really good price.
I'd probably throw it on a 7'6"MH older BPS Bionic rod or would look into getting one of their graphite series IM6 7'6"H rods. The IM6 is a bit softer then IM8 but still has the power needed with the larger bait.
On 12/2/2014 at 1:35 AM, gulfcaptain said:Very under rated rods but very nice rods at a really good price.
Yup, my papa broke his MH/F so I bought him a ethos MH/F and he loves it for swim jigs...
Have one at home. It doesn't get used as much as it used to though. Still a good rod.
I bought a couple but haven't thrown one yet. I plan to use my c-rig rod. 7'6" HF but with a soft tip.
On 12/1/2014 at 4:09 PM, Bluebasser86 said:7' 6" MH/F flipping stick and 20lb Pline. It's a big, big squarebill that I could probably throw on my deep cranking rod but I don't want to fish it on 10lb test and like to fish it around heavier cover like any other squarebill so the big rod should help move fish.
Will it get down to 5ft on 20# line?
I just listened to a podcast where hackney said it will dive 10ft on 20lb fluoro. That's part of what he won pickwick on. 20lb fluoro on a 300 sized reel and his flippin stick
On 12/2/2014 at 11:22 AM, Grantman83 said:I just listened to a podcast where hackney said it will dive 10ft on 20lb fluoro. That's part of what he won pickwick on. 20lb fluoro on a 300 sized reel and his flippin stick
Hmmm, to me that seems a little far fetched... I would hope it would run 5 feet or less on 20lb line.
Same Rod I fish all my other squarebills on, TBC78MHM w/ 15lb Tatsu.
Dobyns Champion 805cb w/16lb sunline sniper.
On 12/2/2014 at 11:25 AM, Catch and Grease said:Hmmm, to me that seems a little far fetched... I would hope it would run 5 feet or less on 20lb line.
10' sounds about right to me. That's about what the big Lucky Craft version runs.
On 12/2/2014 at 10:59 AM, BenB54 said:Will it get down to 5ft on 20# line?
Easily
On 12/2/2014 at 11:25 AM, Catch and Grease said:Hmmm, to me that seems a little far fetched... I would hope it would run 5 feet or less on 20lb line.
They have a pretty big bill on them and will easily get down deeper than 5' on 20lb test. I'm using copolymer, but wouldn't be surprised if they do hit 10' with fluoro. You can kind of get an idea how big the bill is in this side by side picture of an 8.0 and 1.5 size squarebill
Wonder how hard that 8.0 will pull?
On 12/2/2014 at 2:41 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Easily
They have a pretty big bill on them and will easily get down deeper than 5' on 20lb test. I'm using copolymer, but wouldn't be surprised if they do hit 10' with fluoro. You can kind of get an idea how big the bill is in this side by side picture of an 8.0 and 1.5 size squarebill
Welp, I guess I won't be buying them then... The whole reason I wanted them is because the TW website says it runs 3-7 feet. I would love a squarebill crank I could present in that 2-3 foot range that is giganormous...
I just got a rod in that could handle this bait pretty well: Pinnacle Perfecta DHC5 Micro Casting Rod 7'11" MH Crank.
On 12/3/2014 at 3:23 AM, Catch and Grease said:Welp, I guess I won't be buying them then... The whole reason I wanted them is because the TW website says it runs 3-7 feet. I would love a squarebill crank I could present in that 2-3 foot range that is giganormous...
Look into the black dog G2 shell cracker!
id use a mh swimbait rod or even a heavy!
On 12/3/2014 at 5:20 AM, Bass_Fanatic said:Look into the black dog G2 shell cracker!
I don't think your going to get more than around 20" out of that bait. At least I can't, even burning it.
And a 3/4 oz. bait isn't really all that monstrous. I throw that size all day long on my Avid AVC70MHM cranking stick.
On 12/3/2014 at 5:39 AM, J Francho said:I don't think your going to get more than around 20" out of that bait. At least I can't, even burning it.
Mine runs 3-4 ft on 16ob sniper.
On 12/2/2014 at 11:22 AM, Grantman83 said:I just listened to a podcast where hackney said it will dive 10ft on 20lb fluoro. That's part of what he won pickwick on. 20lb fluoro on a 300 sized reel and his flippin stick
I watched Hackney fish this tournament on Championship day and the spot he was fishing was 4-5 ft deep. He fished this spot the whole time so he must have tested the 8.0 on a different spot if he felt it hit 10ft on 20 lb fluoro. Every fish I saw him catch came on a jig but I'm sure he caught some on the 8.0 too. In my experience, throwing this bait on a 7'4" medium heavy glass crankin rod with 15 lb fluoro, it will go down to 6-7 ft. And that bait on the glass crankin rod casts a good 35 yards which is plenty for it to get down close to maximum depth. I haven't tried long-lining or dipping my rod tip under the water to get it deeper tho...
Edit: And I didn't mean that in a ***** kind of way Grantman83 lol didn't want you to think I was being like that.
7'6" MH Duckett Ghost seemed to work fine for me and dang these 8.0 are huuuuuuuuge.
On 12/3/2014 at 7:45 AM, JGBassinAL said:I watched Hackney fish this tournament on Championship day and the spot he was fishing was 4-5 ft deep. He fished this spot the whole time so he must have tested the 8.0 on a different spot if he felt it hit 10ft on 20 lb fluoro. Every fish I saw him catch came on a jig but I'm sure he caught some on the 8.0 too. In my experience, throwing this bait on a 7'4" medium heavy glass crankin rod with 15 lb fluoro, it will go down to 6-7 ft. And that bait on the glass crankin rod casts a good 35 yards which is plenty for it to get down close to maximum depth. I haven't tried long-lining or dipping my rod tip under the water to get it deeper tho...
Edit: And I didn't mean that in a ***** kind of way Grantman83 lol didn't want you to think I was being like that.
Lol don't worry man cause I wasn't taking it that way. I trust your experience with it.
On 12/2/2014 at 11:53 PM, Alonerankin2 said:Wonder how hard that 8.0 will pull?
Not bad at all really, similar to like a SK series 5 or Spro Little John DD.