Reel for Swimbait Rod 2024
Brett's_daddy reply :
Okay, the rod I'm eyeing is the Okuma Guide Select 7'11" Heavy/Moderate Fast swimbait rod. Do I have to use a round casting reel or could I use a low profile reel on it? This will be for small to medium swimbaits (1 - 4oz.). I was thinking of putting either my Curado DC 150 or my Concept Z on it as they both hold a decent amount of line (135 yards of 12lb. mono for both I believe). If it's almost a necessity for a round reel i may shelve the swimbait rod idea for another day as I don't have money for a rod AND reel right now.
A-Jay reply :
Fishing 1 to 4 oz swimbaits on 12 lb line might not be the best plan.
Go with a 300 size reel and at least 20 perhaps 25lb line.
Tranx 300 is nice.
A-Jay
OnthePotomac reply :
I use a Curado K for my swims.. Very husky reel and very smooth. I have it spooled with 15lb Invizx. but then I do not throw big honkin swim baits. Nothing over an once and most are plastics. I am with A-Jay in that if you are going into big swims, go with the Curado 300, or Tranx, both very fine reels.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 3:08 AM, A-Jay said:Fishing 1 to 4 oz swimbaits on 12 lb line might not be the best plan.
Go with a 300 size reel and at least 20 perhaps 25lb line.
Tranx 300 is nice.
A-Jay
yeah, I was just stating the specs but was thinking 50lb braid with a 20lb. mono leader. I know the Tranx is a nice reel but like I said, if I can't use one of the reels I already own I'll table the whole swimbait rod idea for now.
PhishLI reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 2:38 AM, Brett's_daddy said:Okay, the rod I'm eyeing is the Okuma Guide Select 7'11" Heavy/Moderate Fast swimbait rod. Do I have to use a round casting reel or could I use a low profile reel on it? This will be for small to medium swimbaits (1 - 4oz.). I was thinking of putting either my Curado DC 150 or my Concept Z on it as they both hold a decent amount of line (135 yards of 12lb. mono for both I believe). If it's almost a necessity for a round reel i may shelve the swimbait rod idea for another day as I don't have money for a rod AND reel right now.
If either of your two current reels have a gear ratio higher than 6:3:1 then you'll feel them working hard
with baits over 2oz and especially lipped baits. Then there's the issue of the clutch mechanisms dealing with weight in excess of that. You can still play with reasonable baits if you limit them. A Ganteral Jr, Shellcracker G2, and other hard and soft baits in that weight range and a touch higher will be no problem if you wanna play.
Tizi reply :
I use a Lexa 300 with 20 lb big game.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 4:03 AM, PhishLI said:If either of your two current reels have a gear ratio higher than 6:3:1 then you'll feel them working hard
with baits over 2oz and especially lipped baits. Then there's the issue of the clutch mechanisms dealing with weight in excess of that. You can still play with reasonable baits if you limit them. A Ganteral Jr, Shellcracker G2, and other hard and soft baits in that weight range and a touch higher will be no problem if you wanna play.
Hmmm...those two reels are 7.4:1 and 7.3:1 respectively. I do have some lower gear ratio reels though in a 6.3:1 Daiwa Fuego and Shimano SLX...neither of those reels has the spool capacity though right?
Crankin4Bass reply :
How about a Cardiff 300 for $120?
http://fish.shimano.com/content/fish/northamerica/us/en/homepage/Shimano_Product_Page.P-CARDIFF.html
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 4:55 AM, Crankin4Bass said:How about a Cardiff 300 for $120?
http://fish.shimano.com/content/fish/northamerica/us/en/homepage/Shimano_Product_Page.P-CARDIFF.html
Not bad but $120 is about all I have and the rod will cost that. Like I said, I'm really trying to make use of the reels I have but if that's not a possibility than I may just have to forget about it for now.
PhishLI reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 4:49 AM, Brett's_daddy said:6.3:1 Daiwa Fuego and Shimano SLX...neither of those reels has the spool capacity though right
If you're looking for perfection, no. Spool capacity is only one part of the equation though, and so is gear ratio, but forget that for now. One day you'll have the proper stuff. In the meantime you can use what you have within limits. You can get a decent amount of 20lb big game on those reels and play. Don't cast all the line off and you'll be fine for now. At least you'll find out if this type of fishing is for you.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 4:57 AM, PhishLI said:If you're looking for perfection, no. Spool capacity is only one part of the equation though, and so is gear ratio, but forget that for now. One day you'll have the proper stuff. In the meantime you can use what you have within limits. You can get a decent amount of 20lb big game on those reels and play. Don't cast all the line off and you'll be fine for now. At least you'll find out if this type of fishing is for you.
I'm really just looking for a better rod to throw like Gantarel Jr., Shellcracker G2, S-Waver 168/200, Spro BBZ! 6", 7" Savage Gear Shine Glide etc. in that range...maybe a Huddleston 68...along those lines.
Nathan.bass.canada reply :
If you want to get into the swimbait rod and reel for the cheap, get the shimano corvalus at around 70-80$ and whatever rod you want. Using a standard size reel like the ones you stated will end up is prematurly ending their functionnal life. 3-4oz baits arent kind on gear and a good reel will help a lot. The are many good options round or low profile depending on your tastes.
nathan
webertime reply :
Get a Tatula HD for about $100
Or a Fuego CT. 1-4 oz baits dont really need a 300 reel.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 5:47 AM, webertime said:Get a Tatula HD for about $100
Or a Fuego CT. 1-4 oz baits dont really need a 300 reel.
I got a Fuego CT already...6.3:1.
webertime reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 5:48 AM, Brett's_daddy said:I got a Fuego CT already...6.3:1.
Then you are set. Mine has plenty of 20lb Seaguar Abrazx on it.
Fishingmickey reply :
You might take a look at some of the Abu Garcia Ambassadors. I know the C3 & C4's used to be very nice reels. Check Ebay or Amazon and you can probably get one at a very nice price. They have the line capacity and they are robust enough for swimbaits.
FM
P.S. I said used to because the ones I had were made in Sweden and were pretty much top of the line 20+ years ago. They have stood the test of time.
Drew03cmc reply :
Buddy, I've used everything from Citica 200D to Lexa 300h. I preferred and liked my Ardent Apex Magnum the best. They were all good at certain things. The older 200B Curados make a great starter swimbait reel.
BoatSquirrel reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 2:38 AM, Brett's_daddy said:Okuma Guide Select 7'11" Heavy/Moderate
This was my first swimbait rod. Good stick but for another $25, the iRods Genesis JrSwimbait rod smokes it. Bought it also the large swimbait stick. Vastly superior to the Okuma, so much easier to throw. Put a Tatula200 on that IRrods and Kaboom!
Best of luck with your purchase.
redmeansdistortion reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 6:00 AM, Fishingmickey said:You might take a look at some of the Abu Garcia Ambassadors. I know the C3 & C4's used to be very nice reels. Check Ebay or Amazon and you can probably get one at a very nice price. They have the line capacity and they are robust enough for swimbaits.
FM
P.S. I said used to because the ones I had were made in Sweden and were pretty much top of the line 20+ years ago. They have stood the test of time.
New production C3 and C4 reels are made in Sweden as well. That said, I'd buy one used. Their design hasn't changed much the last 15 years aside from minor differences and one can save quite a bit buying used. For a swimbait setup, I'd opt for the C3 with its 5.3:1 ratio over the C4 and the 6.3:1.
WRB reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 5:01 AM, Brett's_daddy said:I'm really just looking for a better rod to throw like Gantarel Jr., Shellcracker G2, S-Waver 168/200, Spro BBZ! 6", 7" Savage Gear Shine Glide etc. in that range...maybe a Huddleston 68...along those lines.
R2Sea 200 S-Waver is 8" weighs 3 1/2 oz, all the others are under 2 1/3 oz. Lures weighing over 3 oz I suggest the 300 size reel and line 20 lb to 25 lb test mono/Copoly.
You can get by with braid using a leader to increase reel line capacity until you have a backlash.
Line over .015D reduces the 150/200 size low profile reel line capacity to around 100/110 yards. Your average casting distance with swimbaits is 50+ yards. Line capacity isn't linear it's based on spool diameter circumference. As the spool empties the circumference drops radically, the majority of the line is on the upper 75% of the spool.
At 50 yards the 150-200 size spool is less then 1/2 full. 300 size reel using .015D line a 50 yard cast the spool is still 75% full, the IPT is about 80% vs less then 40% with the smaller spools.
You can use whatever you want but there is a reason to use 300 size reels with swimbaits do to the long casting distances.
Tom
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
d**n you are cheapie out on the reel but buy 30 bucks lure. 12lb line on 2-4 oz, one small error and your lure would fly away.
Anyway, I do use bass reel for medium size up to 2oz, curado 200IPG and Cardiff 200 but this will be using in creek, small cove or short range target. I use 15lb izorline line on 7’ XH rod.
You would be better off with Cardiff 300 for that 7’11 rod and 1-4oz lure.
NHBull reply :
Just got my sone 2 Tranx for Mexico.....its a no brainer!
GreenPig reply :
I fish a couple tuned Abu 6500's, Lew's Super Duty wide speed spool, Revo Toro Beast 60, and a Tranx 400 for swimbaits. The Tranx and Revo Toro Beast have much stronger drags and cast control handle windy conditions better. I'd suggest a Tranx 300 as it can handle about any swimbait. No braid for me when bigger swimbaits are involved.
Michigander reply :
The Daiwa Millionaire round reels are only like $50-$60, you could try one of those. Unless the community firmly believes they are junk.
There's also some heavier saltwater spinning gear...
Hammer 4 reply :
You could get away with a 200 size reel for the 2 oz baits and under, however as Tom pointed out, throwing the 3 oz and heavier baits will be a problem, meaning your casts will be much shorter than if you used a 300 size reel, been there, done that. I used that same Okuma rod with a 201 Cardiff, and tried throwing 3 1/2 oz baits, really never could get em out there far enough, then I bought a 301E Curado, and then the distance was way better, and much easier to cast.
Like Boat Squirrel, I use the same set up for my 6" Huds.
Michigander reply :
On 2/5/2020 at 7:15 AM, Hammer 4 said:You could get away with a 200 size reel for the 2 oz baits and under, however as Tom pointed out, throwing the 3 oz and heavier baits will be a problem, meaning your casts will be much shorter than if you used a 300 size reel, been there, done that. I used that same Okuma rod with a 201 Cardiff, and tried throwing 3 1/2 oz baits, really never could get em out there far enough, then I bought a 301E Curado, and then the distance was way better, and much easier to cast.
Like Boat Squirrel, I use the same set up for my 6" Huds.
Did you like the Cardiff overall? I'm looking at the 300 for my first swimbait reel.
Hammer 4 reply :
On 2/5/2020 at 7:28 AM, Michigander said:Did you like the Cardiff overall? I'm looking at the 300 for my first swimbait reel.
For the price, I was happy with it, never had any problems as I kept it well maintained. But in comparison to my old 301 E Curado, no contest. Then again the 301 cost almost $ 100.00 more.
PhishLI reply :
On 2/4/2020 at 5:48 AM, Brett's_daddy said:I got a Fuego CT already...6.3:1.
B's_d,
If you can resist chucking baits 150ft, which you can, and keep the baits in the range I mentioned in my first response then you'll get by with that for now. I'm assuming you're not planning on becoming strictly a full time swimbaiter., right? Pop the handle side plate off and grease the works. Gears and clutch. Grease the thumb bar pad on the non handle sideplate too. Daiwas seem to ship on the dry side. You'll get by until you have the scratch for a more ideal reel. At least you'll have the rod you need which is what you can afford now.
Michigander reply :
On 2/5/2020 at 7:30 AM, Hammer 4 said:For the price, I was happy with it, never had any problems as I kept it well maintained. But in comparison to my old 301 E Curado, no contest. Then again the 301 cost almost $ 100.00 more.
Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of reels that beat a Cardiff in every performance category when you start ticking up that price tag. I'm just trying to get a reel that isn't a piece of junk so I can decide if this style of fishing is enjoyable enough for me to take that next step up in gear. And if I decide instead that I'll just be a casual swimbaiter, then I will have a perfectly serviceable combo for many years with proper maintenance.
Hammer 4 reply :
On 2/5/2020 at 7:39 AM, Michigander said:Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of reels that beat a Cardiff in every performance category when you start ticking up that price tag. I'm just trying to get a reel that isn't a piece of junk so I can decide if this style of fishing is enjoyable enough for me to take that next step up in gear. And if I decide instead that I'll just be a casual swimbaiter, then I will have a perfectly serviceable combo for many years with proper maintenance.
The Cardiff will be a good starting point..
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