I am going to set up a tube and grub jig spinning rig, probably with a SC Legend 6'8" rod in medium power. I would be inclined to put a 2500 size reel on this spooled with 6lb mono or flouro, but since I am late to the dance on the Shimano Stradic MgFB sale, all I can find is the 1000 size reel in stock at the sites that have the sale.
Would you go with the smaller reel, or go with a different model in the 2500 size?
I went through the same type of problem when I got my Shimano Sahara. Cabelas had a buy the reel get a XML rod for 50% off but they only had the 1000FD in stock. I wanted the 2500FD but ended up getting the 1000FD and its been a great reel. The only drawback with the Sahara 1000 is that it's a Graphite frame but since its not a every time out reel its been fine for the year I have owned it. I have it spooled with Original Spiderwire 20# 6 on a 6'6" XML.
If the MgFB is all aluminum I would say the 1000 size would be fine but sure others will chime in also
The 1000 is a great match for that set-up.
I have one on an AVS66MLF. You will not
be disappointed.
8-)
QuoteThe only drawback with the Sahara 1000 is that it's a Graphite frame...
just to make sure there's no confusion, only the 500- and 1000-size saharas have graphite frames. the other sizes are all aluminum.
Quoteif the MgFB is all aluminum...
actually, the "mg" stands for magnesium, which is lighter and stronger than aluminum but not suitable for saltwater use
now, personally, although the 2500-size is the most versatile and best all-around choice for most bass fishing, i much prefer my 1000-size and 1500-size reels when i can get away with it. you might get a little more line twisting with the smaller spools but the compactness and lighter weight throughout a day of fishing is worth it IMHO.
6# mono and a 1000 reel is just fine. I use that in the fall and winter almost exclusively. I keep 10 on the 2500s.
1000 Should be fine. When do you plan to use 110 yards at once? I think it is nice cause you have to replace it more often which keeps the line fresh. Also it is significantly lighter than a 2500 sized reel. If you wait for the new Stradics to come out they would only be $60 more than the one offered at TW and you could choose your 2500 and still only be around 7 ounces.
Smaller reel = less fatigue. IF it balances out nicely on the rod.
Then again I could just get a Stradic 2500 FI.
strap a Daiwa Tierra 2500 on there and dont look back,
Quotestrap a Daiwa Tierra 2500 on there and dont look back,
Hmmm....Blue reel on a blue rod. Not sure how I feel about that.
Back to the mgfb, in the older models the 1000 and 2500 shared the same frame. The specs on the current ones would indicate that is not the case. Correct?
its all about looks? dang Ive been doing it been wrong all these years :-[
QuoteQuotestrap a Daiwa Tierra 2500 on there and dont look back,Hmmm....Blue reel on a blue rod. Not sure how I feel about that.
I have an Abu Soron on mine and it look's awesome. (Not that I care about that kind of stuff )
QuoteQuoteQuotestrap a Daiwa Tierra 2500 on there and dont look back,Hmmm....Blue reel on a blue rod. Not sure how I feel about that.
I have an Abu Soron on mine and it look's awesome. (Not that I care about that kind of stuff )
My first reaction was that it would look good (assuming the shades of blue are complimentary), but then I realized people might think I picked it just for the looks. Maybe I should pick a red reel so no one can think that.
Don't ever care what somebody else thinks of your gear. Seriously.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotestrap a Daiwa Tierra 2500 on there and dont look back,Hmmm....Blue reel on a blue rod. Not sure how I feel about that.
I have an Abu Soron on mine and it look's awesome. (Not that I care about that kind of stuff )
My first reaction was that it would look good (assuming the shades of blue are complimentary), but then I realized people might think I picked it just for the looks. Maybe I should pick a red reel so no one can think that.
red...hmmm. Daiwa Fuego on ebay, last years model..all red
and what he said...who cares what people think, as long as you like it.
Well, I never did this but I am about to pull the trigger.
The Stradic MgFB 1000 is still available, but now the Daiwa Certate is on sale. I realize there is a large difference in price, but I am thinking that if I got the Certate in the 2000 size it will be more versatile even though it weighs more. Even at that, it comes in better than the other 2000 and 2500 reels.
Since the Certate is a design that is a few years old, how does it stack up to some of the newer reels?
QuoteDon't ever care what somebody else thinks of your gear. Seriously.
Words to live by. 8-)
Zelmo, if you're not in a rush (and since this thread was started in August, I don't think you are) I have a new in the box Stradic mgfb 2500 that I can make you a good deal on. I bought two of them on clearance for $129.95 each and I'm only using one. The second one didn't really fit the rod I had intended it for. Now I need to sell it so I can afford the reel I need. The only problem is you'll have to wait until I get in from Iraq next week. P.M. me if you're interested.
Quoteactually, the "mg" stands for magnesium, which is lighter and stronger than aluminum but not suitable for saltwater use.
Hmmm, that's a tough call.
Actually, pure "magnesium" is virtually corrosion-proof, but some alloys of magnesium
are attacked by galvanic action, much the same as the sacrificial anodes on a saltwater vessel.
I'ved used a Stradic MG in saltwater for many years without incident.
Roger
I would suggest you get a 3000 or 4000 size spool, especially if you are going to fish florocarbon line. I picked up this tip from Kevin Van Dam and I've met other pros who have made similiar reccomendations. What I do with mine is use an inexpensive backing line, then stick on app 100 yds of the featured line. If you are using 6# line for tubes etc my guess is your fishing clear water where long cast are often critical, the large spool will easily outcast the 1000 size spool. This year I pickep up the Shimano 3000 Stradic and it's a great reel, the nice thing about it is that it has a relatively small frame, it's lightweight not at all bulky or cumbersome yet has the oversize spool. They've also redesigned the lip on the newer models and the line just flies off the spool, the large spool will allow the line to come off in larger coils minimizing line twist & maximizing casting distance. In my opinion I wouldn't get a 1000 spool unless you want to use it for panfish with say 2-4 lb line and a float. After picking up this reel I will not go back to smaller spool reels.
I agree with Rolo on the mg saltwater use. I have been using a pflueger supreme almost daily in the salt for over a year, reel is still perfect. In fact on shimano's web site the stella is approved for saltwater. The only problem that could arise would be if some of the finish were scratched off. Anyone fishing saltwater knows to rinse your equipment after each use and there is a proper way to do it.
I use the smaller spinning reels a lot. I do have a size 30 which holds well over 200yds of 6 pound line. I have not noticed any increase in casting distance between this reel and the 20's (140 yds of 6) that I prefer. I do not understand how a larger spool equates longer casting distances, however I do understand how larger reels are heavier and add to that the large quantity of line they hold the weight difference is even more exacerbated. The balance of the rod/reel combo is of more importance than a large spool IMO. I like VanDam's quote that casting distance is for ego and accuracy if for catching fish. Good luck.
This whole discussion about big reel vs small reel is killing me. Shouldn't you first pick the rod and then choose a reel size that fits/balances nicely on the rod. Big reels go on big rods. Small reels go on small rods. Am I missing something?
QuoteDon't ever care what somebody else thinks of your gear. Seriously.
Yep. Totally agree. For a while I was using a Shimano Callisto and a $15 Shimano Spinning reel. Caught fish just fine.
Pflueger Supreme 8730....
Rods over 7ft 8735
Bird dog, thanks for the offer on the MGFB. I couldn't pass on the Certate deal so I got one of those. If I can add some $ to the fishing budget I will get back to you to see if you still have it.
Thanks for your service to our country. Be safe.
Good luck with the Certate, Zelmo. You will like it!
I was always a big fan of Daiwa and Shimano 2000 and 2500 size reels, and/or the Pflueger xx30/xx35 size reels. But recently I bouht a Shimano Sahara 3000, same frame size and weight as a 2500, but the spool is bigger, and with fluorocarbon line it has made a big differance in how it handles, not that the other sizes were a nightmare, but it seem like line twist, memory, and other problems have decreased to the point that I don't even treat line on the 3000 reel with KVD anymore, where as if I didn't spray KVD on fluoro. that was spooled on 2000 and 2500 reels it needed more attention paid to managing twist/memory etc.
QuoteI was always a big fan of Daiwa and Shimano 2000 and 2500 size reels, and/or the Pflueger xx30/xx35 size reels. But recently I bouht a Shimano Sahara 3000, same frame size and weight as a 2500, but the spool is bigger, and with fluorocarbon line it has made a big differance in how it handles, not that the other sizes were a nightmare, but it seem like line twist, memory, and other problems have decreased to the point that I don't even treat line on the 3000 reel with KVD anymore, where as if I didn't spray KVD on fluoro. that was spooled on 2000 and 2500 reels it needed more attention paid to managing twist/memory etc.
My brother uses the large spool BPS spinning reels. While I don't like how they feel, they really do cut down on line management problems when using flouro.
Also, I've noticed KVD has always used oversized spinning reels. Even years ago. I would be willing to bet that is why. Larger spool reduces line memory, twist etc.
QuoteThis whole discussion about big reel vs small reel is killing me. Shouldn't you first pick the rod and then choose a reel size that fits/balances nicely on the rod. Big reels go on big rods. Small reels go on small rods. Am I missing something?
The thing is with my Shimano Stradic 3000 I get the the frame of a small to medium size spinning reel with the performance upgrades that comes from using a reel with a large spool. To quote Van Halen I get the " best of both worlds", all I can say is I've used both and I won't go back. The great thing about the time we are in with the technological advances made with fishing reels the last few years is that we can get reels with high line capacity without the weight and bulk, a great example is with some of the new low profile baitcaster likes the Curado where the same trend has been applied.
I apologize if I got off topic, I always pick the reel that balances the rod and fits my style the best.
QuoteQuoteThis whole discussion about big reel vs small reel is killing me. Shouldn't you first pick the rod and then choose a reel size that fits/balances nicely on the rod. Big reels go on big rods. Small reels go on small rods. Am I missing something?The thing is with my Shimano Stradic 3000 I get the the frame of a small to medium size spinning reel with the performance upgrades that comes from using a reel with a large spool. To quote Van Halen I get the " best of both worlds", all I can say is I've used both and I won't go back. The great thing about the time we are in with the technological advances made with fishing reels the last few years is that we can get reels with high line capacity without the weight and bulk, a great example is with some of the new low profile baitcaster likes the Curado where the same trend has been applied.
I understand that, Primas. But in the original post, Zelmo was wanting a 2500 but considering a 1000 and people started suggesting up to a 4000. I will admit that I haven't handled all those reels, but I can't imagine a rod that would accept both 1000s and 4000s and be balanced.
QuoteI understand that, Primas. But in the original post, Zelmo was wanting a 2500 but considering a 1000 and people started suggesting up to a 4000. I will admit that I haven't handled all those reels, but I can't imagine a rod that would accept both 1000s and 4000s and be balanced.
i find that balance on a spinning setup is rarely a problem since the hand holding the rod is right over the pivot point (the reel). i've heard a few pros recommend the 4000-size reels too because it really does help with line twist...i tried it and it was just too big and bulky for me.
For many years my main rod was a 4'9" UL with a 500 reel on it that I used wading for trout. Once I started bass fishing it took a while to get used to a 6'6" or 7' rod with a 2500 on it. I shudder at the thought of going to a 4000!