Which Rod Should I Choose? 2024
ABW reply :
Primarily will be throwing weightless flukes and 5" senkos, texas rigs and jigs no bigger than 3/8 oz, and maybe some spinnerbaits here and there.
I will be fishing from the shore on small local ponds.
This will be paired up with a $99 Lew's Speed Spool
*** Black 7'1" Med Hvy
Abu Garcia Veritas 6'6" Med Hvy
Shimano Crucial 6'8" Med Hvy
I am open to other rod suggestions as well. Also, does a 6'6" rod and a 7' rod make a difference when using jigs?
Cgrinder reply :
I would lean towards a Medium power if you're staying around 3/8 oz. I have the MH *** that you're considering and it's a fairly powerful rod. I have good luck frogging with it. I don't like it for flukes and light Texas rigs unless I'm fishing serious cover. I would be looking at a Medium or light MH like a 3-power Dobyns rod, something rated 1/4 to 3/4 oz. I would also get the longest rod possible as you're shore fishing and longer casts are important.
livetofish28 reply :
On 5/13/2014 at 5:40 AM, Cgrinder said:I would lean towards a Medium power if you're staying around 3/8 oz. I have the MH *** that you're considering and it's a fairly powerful rod. I have good luck frogging with it. I don't like it for flukes and light Texas rigs unless I'm fishing serious cover. I would be looking at a Medium or light MH like a 3-power Dobyns rod, something rated 1/4 to 3/4 oz. I would also get the longest rod possible as you're shore fishing and longer casts are important.
this I have a hard time throwing senkos and weightless plastics on a mh because the rod just doesn't load enough to really sling it
tight lines
Andrew
Gigg reply :
I'd have to agree with Cgrinder, you might consider a Medium power for what your throwing. I have the *** MH 7'3'' and the 6'9'' Veritas MH and I'd have to say throwing weightless flukes and senkos will be tough since the rod won't load well when you cast something that light. It's not like I haven't done it, but you won't get far. I just got a Crucial M 7'2'' recently for that purpose, much easier to cast weightless plastics.
new2BC4bass reply :
Fenwick HMG 7' MF 1/4-3/4 oz. $100.
Fenwick Aetos 7'4" MF 1/4-3/4 oz. $180.
*** Black 7'1" or 7'3" MF 1/4-5/8 oz. $100
*** Black 7'3" MF 1/4-3/4 oz. $250
We won't mention the GLX or NRX. 
If you want a shorter rod, look to ohya for the 6'6" MF 1/4-3/4 oz. Quantum Tour Edition Pt.
I assume you want to keep price around the $100 mark, so HMG, Tour Edition and Black would be my first choices.
Mr Swim Jig reply :
If wanting to stay around $100 I would definitely look at the *** *** Black 7' 1" M/F or MH/F rod. They are great rods.
Jrob78 reply :
I think you're on the right track. I haven't fished any of those rods so I can't comment on them. The techniques you listed are all MH techniques for me. Flukes and Senkos weigh enough to throw on MH rods. I would also lean toward 7' over 6'6". The longer rod will help with longer casts and better hook sets.
David D. reply :
Put that Speed Spool on a 7'1" M/F *** Black and enjoy. The MH is too stiff for weightless flukes, light T-Rigs and 3/8 oz jigs without trailers (I know, because I have one).
ABW reply :
Would a medium power *** Black have enough backbone to set the hook with 3/8 oz jigs + a trailer? I only listed MH rods because of this
Tywithay reply :
If you're willing to pay for a Crucial, I'd look at the Kistler KLX. The 7' MH would be ideal. There's not a better rod for the money, in my experience.
robster80 reply :
i looked at the klx as well but theyre out of stock on most models. i emailed trey and he said he didnt know when they would do some more but can build a custom klx for u. im considering going that route
Justin Clark reply :
My vote would be an *** black in a Med either 7'1" or 7'3" Lew's and Omens make a great combo we sell a bunch of them together here at the shop.
DaBassMasta reply :
The 6' 10" Duckett ghost M is a very nice rod for the money and casts the weightless pretty good. Stuck on dry land, know what your talking about. For a second choice (or personal preference) defiantly the ***.
Tight lines,
MSA
David D. reply :
On 5/13/2014 at 7:38 PM, alee17 said:Would a medium power *** Black have enough backbone to set the hook with 3/8 oz jigs + a trailer? I only listed MH rods because of this
It will have plenty of power to set the hook. The MH rods just won't be able to load any of the lighter lures that you want to throw which will cause you to have more backlashes than you will want to deal with. And anytime that you don't backlash your casting distance will be subpar.
triwbass reply :
id get a kistler 6'9 mh all purpose rod like the ones made sepificly for tackle warehouse ,,think its the pro series,,,,,
ABW reply :
I think I'm going go with a 7'3" Medium Fast *** Black Rod rated for 1/4 - 5/8 oz lures.
I'll be primarily using 1/4 or 3/8 oz jigs with small trailers, and weightless flukes.
Sound good?
David D. reply :
Sounds like a good choice to me.
Cgrinder reply :
Should be good. You can also call or email 13 for a recommendation. Their customer service department knows their rods very well.
jlwest506 reply :
I got a 6'8 duckett ghost medium heavy and I can sling a weightless Senko a long way. I love it
JGBassinAL reply :
No way in my right mind would I throw those baits on a medium power rod. Heck, I throw 3/8 oz texas rigged PowerTeam Lures Craw D'ouerves on a heavy power rod and bury the hook every time...
Jrob78 reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 6:01 AM, JGBassinAL said:No way in my right mind would I throw those baits on a medium power rod. Heck, I throw 3/8 oz texas rigged PowerTeam Lures Craw D'ouerves on a heavy power rod and bury the hook every time...
Agreed. A 3/8 oz jig w/ skirt and trailer is going to weigh quite a bit more than the 5/8oz weight range of the rod mentioned.
ABW reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 6:18 AM, Jrob78 said:Agreed. A 3/8 oz jig w/ skirt and trailer is going to weigh quite a bit more than the 5/8oz weight range of the rod mentioned.
Might just have to buy another combo... 
Jrob78 reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 6:58 AM, alee17 said:Might just have to buy another combo...
That's the attitude I like to see 
ABW reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 2:12 AM, David D. said:Sounds like a good choice to me.
Others saying 3/8 oz jigs + trailer would be a bad idea for that Medium rod. I'm pretty confused. On the review that TackleTour did, it says otherwise.
http://www.tackletour.com/review13omencastingrodpg2.html
Jrob78 reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 7:11 AM, alee17 said:Others saying 3/8 oz jigs + trailer would be a bad idea for that Medium rod. I'm pretty confused. On the review that TackleTour did, it says otherwise.
http://www.tackletour.com/review13omencastingrodpg2.html
It looks like that rod might be heavier than it's rating. If that's the case, you might be good to go. Most M rods with that line rating aren't heavy enough for jigs. That particular rod might be an exception. I would still buy a MH though.
robster80 reply :
medium heavy
JGBassinAL reply :
The only thing I use a medium action baitcasting rod for is small jerkbaits and the occasional 1/8 oz shaky head.
ABW reply :
On 5/13/2014 at 8:37 AM, David D. said:Put that Speed Spool on a 7'1" M/F *** Black and enjoy. The MH is too stiff for weightless flukes, light T-Rigs and 3/8 oz jigs without trailers (I know, because I have one).
David, have you used Senkos on your MH ***? Do they cast well?
JGBassinAL reply :
I have used the 7 ft mh and have played with the 7 ft medium in store and they both have the same tip. So it makes sense to go with the mh cause it gives you more backbone. Someone said something about not getting a medium heavy because of the weightless flukes. The mh has the tip to throw them and work them just as good as the medium. Plus the mh can be used for so many more things.
JGBassinAL reply :
On 5/14/2014 at 12:54 AM, David D. said:It will have plenty of power to set the hook. The MH rods just won't be able to load any of the lighter lures that you want to throw which will cause you to have more backlashes than you will want to deal with. And anytime that you don't backlash your casting distance will be subpar.
Ok in all seriousness alee17, the tip is light on the 7'1"mh and can throw those weightless baits with ease. I don't use a medium heavy much, I use heavy most of the time except for my glass cranking rods. I can throw a weightless senko or 3/8 oz jig 40 yards on a 7'4" heavy all purpose rod that I have, and it has a way stiffer tip than the 7'1" mh *** black. But I also have a Shimano Curado 200E7 that is super tuned on that rod. Still, if I can cast those baits that far on a heavy power rod...you get my point. Oh and I rarely ever get backlashes.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 1:56 PM, JGBassinAL said:Ok in all seriousness alee17, the tip is light on the 7'1"mh and can throw those weightless baits with ease. I don't use a medium heavy much, I use heavy most of the time except for my glass cranking rods. I can throw a weightless senko or 3/8 oz jig 40 yards on a 7'4" heavy all purpose rod that I have, and it has a way stiffer tip than the 7'1" mh *** black. But I also have a Shimano Curado 200E7 that is super tuned on that rod. Still, if I can cast those baits that far on a heavy power rod...you get my point. Oh and I rarely ever get backlashes.
As long as the rod will load with the lure being used, it won't matter what reel is on the rod. It should still throw the lure. Of course, some reels are better than others, so distance probably won't be the same as for your E7. However, if the rod won't load, then it doesn't matter much what reel is being used. I had that reinforced when I tried to throw a 1/16 oz. lure on a spinning rod rated for a low of 1/8 oz. Wouldn't cast that lure for squat. A b/c reel would be even worse.
JGBassinAL reply :
My 7'4" heavy won't load on a 3/8 oz jig and I throw them all the time. Like I said I can cast it 40 yard easily. But I'm gonna get off this topic though. I think you would be happier with the medium heavy, way happier. If you have any questions alee17 just pm me.
Hogsticker reply :
6'10 medium *** would be my choice.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Others have commented on the casting of the M/F I'll go into the retrieve of the M/F with jig.
I went out and tried my 7'1" M/F *** with a 3/8 Jackall spade jig w/rage tail baby craw on it. It for sure loads well on cast but with this it loads just as much when retrieving. For me the tip was not strong enough to work jig efficiently through the weeds. The tip would load too much meaning I have to pull more to get the jig moving. So instead of popping the lure free it seemed more of a yank. This was with 20# braid on as well so the no stretch show the weakness in the rod. If you plan to use a stretchy line like fluoro or mono it would be even worse.
So with braid M/F I would say is borderline, with fluoro no go get MH/F.
No harm was done to any fish during the testing for this review
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