Best braid for Ultralight spinning? 2024
xDirty reply :
Hello,
Currently i have a 6'6 okuma celilo and penn fierce spinning reel for Ultralight fishing. I have 6lb mono on it which works fine, not the best casting distance but i like the extra strength. I finally warmed up to the idea of tying on a leader, previously i didn't want it passing through my guides and i still wont do it on my baitcaster but the celilo is cheap enough i can always replace it easily. I know most people say knots passing thru the guides is no problem but im super picky about taking care of my equipment.
So what diameter braid should i get, 10?15?.also what kind and size leader?
ChrisD46 reply :
Daiwa new "J" Braid #8 lb. or Power Pro #8 lb. braid with a 5' section of #4 lb. ~ #6 lb. mono or FC line joining the two with a Modified Albright (i.e. Crazy Alberto) knot . Tied properly , the knot will go through the guides just fine - just make sure not to reel the knot actually into the reel to prevent a snag / delay while casting which could cause the line to break ... Good Luck !
Florida Cracker2 reply :
What size fierce do you have? I have been eyeing the 1000 size in either the Fierce, Battle, or Conflict. I wish they made the spinfisher V that small (I really like the 4500 I have).
xDirty reply :
I think its the fierce 2000. Its okay im not that crazy about it but i got a good deal on it from Walmart. The celilo on the other hand was a pleasant surprise and only 35 bucks
HookdUP reply :
I use very small fire line and have good results
FloridaFishinFool reply :
I'll have to try the fireline on a spinning reel. I use it on a couple of baitcast reels.
Otherwise, if I use braid on my small spinning reels I do well with Sufix.
Team9nine reply :
Is this really an ultra-light setup? 10# or 15#? No way...
I'll throw my vote in for 3# PowerPro Microline. Wicked good stuff, especially in yellow. Use with either a 2#, 4# or at most a 6# leader. If 3# scares you, you can go with either the 4# or 5#, also PP. I use only 3#, 5# or 8# PP for nearly all my finesse fishing.
-T9
EllisJuan reply :
Does PowerPro still make microcline? I have not been able to find it lately.
buzzed bait reply :
10# will be just fine.... it's the equivalent of 2lb mono which i'd definitely consider ultralight line.
junyer357 reply :
I currently use 10# power pro moss green on my ultralight setups. No leaders either. My buddy uses 4# stren and we couldnt tell a diffrence in amount of bites using same color lures. Even in gin clear creeks. So its worth a shot to try the braid without a leader first.
Klebs01 reply :
I have 8# pp on my UL. Usually with a 4 or 6 lb fluoro leader.
Darren. reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 3:43 AM, Team9nine said:Is this really an ultra-light setup? 10# or 15#? No way...
I'll throw my vote in for 3# PowerPro Microline. Wicked good stuff, especially in yellow. Use with either a 2#, 4# or at most a 6# leader. If 3# scares you, you can go with either the 4# or 5#, also PP. I use only 3#, 5# or 8# PP for nearly all my finesse fishing.
-T9
I'd agree, generally; however since he's considering
tying on a leader, I don't see a problem with 10#
Power Pro. For me, the leader is the UL portion of
the setup. For that, I'd go from 2-4# leader.
WRB reply :
Ultra lite isn't light...it's u l t r a light....think 1lb to 4 lb mono and braid with equal diameter.
Tom
LunkerFisher reply :
My little sticks usually have 6# fireline or 4# fluoro. Hasn't failed me yet.
Team9nine reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 7:19 AM, Darren. said:
I'd agree, generally; however since he's considering
tying on a leader, I don't see a problem with 10#
Power Pro. For me, the leader is the UL portion of
the setup. For that, I'd go from 2-4# leader.
Yeah, it really comes down to what Tom stated, whether he is truly using ultralight gear and baits or just light or ML fishing. If he is using 1/16-1/64-oz. jigs, etc. or similar tiny baits, then 3# PP will fish circles around 10# PP (.006" dia.) when it comes to casting distance, as well as bait control and feel in deeper water regardless of leader. 3# PP microline is about .0034" on the micrometer, or about 8X tippet material in fly fishing, which is about 1.75 lb. actual breaking strength equivalent nylon/fluoro., about half the diameter of 10# PP. For comparison, 2# Trilene XL is .005" in diameter. If he's fishing 1/8-oz stuff, then much less of a deal with the 10# PP.
-T9
Darren. reply :
I'll defer to your expertise since I've not fished
PP in such low diameters. Leaders, I don't fish
below 4# anymore these days, but I used to.
I need to break out my long poles and do some
no-reel fishing soon. 2# test after panfish. 
EllisJuan reply :
Can anyone tell me where I can buy this 4# PowerPro?
Team9nine reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 9:24 AM, Darren. said:I need to break out my long poles and do some
no-reel fishing soon. 2# test after panfish.
Me, too I bought an 11'8" (3.6m) Daiwa carbon fiber long pole to fish panfish this year. Instructions said to not use any line heavier than 5 lb breaking strain with the rod - big fun!
-T9
Darren. reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 9:54 AM, Team9nine said:Me, too
-T9
I bought my 12' 98% graphite (?) from allfishingbuy.com
and have used it with great success over the years for
pannies up to 2 pound bass. Unbelievably fun!
My sons also use Walmart-bought 10-20' long poles for
fun, as well. We've caught a ton of fish from pan-cat-bass
on them, not to mention turtles.
Team9nine reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 9:52 AM, EllisJuan said:Can anyone tell me where I can buy this 4# PowerPro?
Looks like you'll have to look around a bit. I see it is still listed on the PowerPro website, but the place I've always bought it from (American Legacy) is showing 'out of stock.' Some looks to be available on Ebay. As a fallback, you can go with the 5 lb. PP and be fine. Easy to find it at most major retailers. It's a great crossover line between panfish and bass. I use it a bunch for Ned rigging with 6 and 8 pound leaders without any issues. I just like playing with the extremes in tackle to see what I can get away with. A great learning experience.
-T9
Crestliner2008 reply :
I currently have 4 UL rigs set up with 2# test Fireline Crystal for the main line, each with a 4' - 5' leader of 4# test fluorocarbon, connected with the Alberto knot. I do not like the braided PP because of the sound it makes when retrieving. The fused construction of the Fireline is much smoother and quieter. Been using these UL rigs for panfish for many, many years, and this is just what I like best. I've taken some pretty large fish with them as well, including LM bass and northern pike. Consistently reliable - in my opinion anyway.
Preytorien reply :
Give Gliss a try. It's on my ultralight finesse rig and it's incredible. It's insanely thin, like spider silk. I think *** has a small review on it, but A-Jay did a great write up on here about it. Search for it and you'll see what he had to say.
Evan K reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 8:49 PM, Preytorien said:Give Gliss a try. It's on my ultralight finesse rig and it's incredible. It's insanely thin, like spider silk. I think *** has a small review on it, but A-Jay did a great write up on here about it. Search for it and you'll see what he had to say.
I've seen ads for it- I may have to try sometime.
buzzed bait reply :
1-4 lb mono equivalent in diameter is 8-15lb braid
what equivalent diameter size leader would you be tying with 3-5lb braid? do they make a 1/4lb mono?
RAMBLER reply :
PowerPro Braided Spectra Fiber Micro Filament Line - 100-150 Yards. Bass Pro has this in 5lb.
WRB reply :
I know I sound like a broken record on this topic but evaluate line by it's diameter, not advertised lb test.
example Tufline braid 8 lb is .003 diameter and Bravo Toray polyimde 4 lb is .006 diameter.
Comparing popular brands thier diameter is 50% larger...ultra lite use smaller diameter line.
Tom
EllisJuan reply :
I just spooled my new Ultra-light setup with White 6lb Sufix 832 braid. Feels nice...we'll see how it fishes.
HookdUP reply :
Fire line original 6-8lb line
ChrisD46 reply :
I just bought a spool of #4 lb. Seaguar Senshi mono to try as leader material - now to find some #5 lb. Power Pro to use as mainline - I would love to try the #3 or #4 lb. Power Pro but it doesn't look like anyone on-line is carrying it currently .
Master Bait'r reply :
On UL you will be disappointed w 10# power pro. It's big and chunky and loud. Good luck casting 1/16oz! If you NEED braid 10# Smackdown is far and away the smoothest and most supple I've ever seen.
My recc is 8# Gliss though. I use it on light action rods and the casting/strength is insane. No stretch and is very supple as well. Pretty cheap too. I use the green but wish they made a black!
Molay1292 reply :
Gliss is crazy thin and supple, cast like a champ. I have not tried it in UL class lines, but I would think it would be amazing.
Retired@176 reply :
On 2/11/2016 at 8:49 PM, Preytorien said:Give Gliss a try. It's on my ultralight finesse rig and it's incredible. It's insanely thin, like spider silk. I think *** has a small review on it, but A-Jay did a great write up on here about it. Search for it and you'll see what he had to say.
X2 like it better than PP
WRB reply :
What is it about line diameter you all don't get?
3 lb test PowerPro is .003 diameter, 8 lb Tufline is .003 diameter both are the same diameter.
The smallest diameter Gliss is 4 lb at .004 or 25% largest than .003 lines are.
8 lb Tufline at .003 diameter is over 250% stronger than 3 lb PowerPro and 200% stronger than Gliss 4 lb.
Tom
Preytorien reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 9:48 AM, WRB said:What is it about line diameter you all don't get?
3 lb test PowerPro is .003 diameter, 8 lb Tufline is .003 diameter both are the same diameter.
The smallest diameter Gliss is 4 lb at .004 or 25% largest than .003 lines are.
8 lb Tufline at .003 diameter is over 250% stronger than 3 lb PowerPro and 200% stronger than Gliss 4 lb.
Tom
I agree, which is why I don't use their 4lb line. There are certainly smaller diameter options. But for heavier pound test, such as 24lb, I haven't found anything smaller than Gliss and Seaguar Smackdown. I use both.
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