I know most would just use spinning gear but I just don't like spinning. I'm looking for another casting rod similar to the carbonlite 2 med. Lt. That I have now. I really like the rod but the Winn grips are just uncomfortable.
I've been looking at the zodias but I haven't found a lot of reviews on it for that power. This rod is mainly Ned rigs but I hope to learn some more finesse techniques because I fish mostly pressured areas and have better luck with smaller presentations. If possible I would like to stay under 150.Thanks for any help.
Check out the Major Craft Don Iovino 6'10" ML-XF. Also Major Craft is having a sale on the Corzza...$120 for $170 rod. I recently got a Benkei and it is a very nice looking rod for the money. Had it out once so far. Liking it.
Also check out TackleTour's review of the Villain 2.0 6'10" ML spinning rod. The casting rod should be as good. Hope so because I have one (with no reel on it yet). Ordered it late one night not realizing it said VC instead of VS. I had wanted the spinning model. Glen's Army Navy has the casting model for $155.99. Haven't ever dealt with them so can't offer any feedback on the store.
EDIT: Make sure you are looking at the 2.0 model. I didn't care for the original that much. The spinning rod I got wasn't bad, but I disliked the casting model.
On 5/14/2018 at 9:31 PM, new2BC4bass said:Ordered it late one night not realizing it said VC instead of VS. I had wanted the spinning model. Glen's Army Navy has the casting model for $155.99. Haven't ever dealt with them so can't offer any feedback on the store.
If you don't like the Villain baitcaster, let me know.
On 5/14/2018 at 9:38 PM, Junger said:If you don't like the Villain baitcaster, let me know.
Sure. I can tell you it is a very nice looking rod. Will let you know as soon as I get to use it.
Thanks for the replies. I like how the corzza looks. Any idea how that med. Fast action feels. I've never held a major craft so I don't know how it compares.
I don't like the Zodias ML for Ned rigs unless they are heavier heads. The 1/20 oz head and TRD weights in around 3/16 oz which is at the low end of what the Zodias 1610 ML is capable of throwing. I prefer a L BFS stick like a Major Craft Volkey 68L for ned rigs. A ML would work but it needs to be softer than the Zodias.
Thanks baitfinesse I usually use the 1/16 heads. Okay I will mark the zodias off the list. Do you prefer a fast or extra fast for Ned's. I would rate my carbonlite as fast.
I really like my Daiwa Tatula 7' MLR rod it is an outstanding rod for finesse techniques.
On 5/15/2018 at 6:59 AM, Mr Swim Jig said:I really like my Daiwa Tatula 7' MLR rod it is an outstanding rod for finesse techniques.
Now you tell me! I figured with its 1/4-5/8 oz. rating that it might be a little too much for Ned Rigs. Course I don't know what the total weight is with the smaller heads.
On 5/15/2018 at 6:27 AM, Dieselguy416 said:Thanks baitfinesse I usually use the 1/16 heads. Okay I will mark the zodias off the list. Do you prefer a fast or extra fast for Ned's. I would rate my carbonlite as fast.
I like a fast taper. Also consider the 268L Zodias BFS. It is a 2pc BFS rod one power under the 1610ML but is JDM and will not be warrantied in the US but neither is my Volkey. You can get them on eBay shipped for your price range. You should be able to get a Majorcraft Corrza 67L for you price as well off the Majorcraft US site.
The ML Carbon Lite is kinda a turd IMO so it is good that you are upgrading. It's super soft making it more like a L BFS rod than a ML which is good for Ned rigs but lacks backbone of a proper L BFS rod. I'd rather have a Kuying Topcaster ML for half the price if I wanted a cheap Ned rod.
I had the carbonlite ML and prefer the MajorCraft Don Iovino Signature Series 6’-10.” Says it’s a medium but those that have it would classify as an ML. Much prefer it over the Carbonlite. St. Croix has a 6-10 ML in the LTB and someone already mentioned the Daiwa.
Yeah I also thought the tatula rod would be too much. Yes turd pretty much sums it up. I do love My mh tatula 6 10 though. Major craft is sold out of the corzza 67l. I will have to check out the zodias then.
Just got a MH 6'8" Loomis E6X for small swimbaits and shakeyheads, love it. Might be able to find them for pretty cheap around this time.
I have a Expride 7'2 ML that I paired with an Aldebaran and it was a sweet setup! Once I got it dialed in, the setup felt really good. Super light and very sensitive rod. The only thing I wouldn't throw on it is a drop shot, but that's because of my own ability to cast.
BTW, my Expride is for sale ????. It's seen the waters twice and is in like new condition. PM with you number if you're interested. I've learned that I prefer a spinning rod for the finesse applications so I ordered a Dobyns 742.
The corzza was delivered today I can definitely see a difference with the taper vs the carbonlite. The balance is a lot better too. I also ordered the med. Tatula that should be here this week.
hopefully it's as nice as the MH tatula That I already have. I will report back after this weekend thanks for all the suggestions.
On 5/23/2018 at 10:58 AM, Dieselguy416 said:The corzza was delivered today I can definitely see a difference with the taper vs the carbonlite. The balance is a lot better too. I also ordered the med. Tatula that should be here this week.
hopefully it's as nice as the MH tatula That I already have. I will report back after this weekend thanks for all the suggestions.
Nice! Congrats. I think you will enjoy both.
Ok so I have had some time with the corzza and it's much better for the Ned. I also purchased a medium tatula ex fast it doesn't seem to balance as well as the MH tatula. Just thought I'd put that out. Thanks everyone for the help. Now I just have to figure out which fury rod I want for frogs. It seems like it never ends. Lol
On 6/1/2018 at 12:49 AM, Dieselguy416 said:Now I just have to figure out which fury rod I want for frogs. It seems like it never ends. Lol
In the same boat, looking for a new frog rod, my Powell Max3D 7'3 MagH is a pool cue...way overkill for the stuff I'm frogging in. It never ends.
I’m looking for a rod to dedicate to Ned rigs myself. Did you get the MC corzza 67L??? I wanted to get an megabass orochi xxx black Themis but it’s a jdm rod and I seen someone saying theirs broke. Just wondering how the corzza worked out being that all the rods I’m considering have an x-fast tip and are m-ml power rods. I’ve made due with an medium 6’10” *** black. Only downfall is I have to swap my reels to cast Ned’s on it. I have a Scorpion bfs that helps with the casting but I’d rather not have to swap from rod to rod.
On 8/15/2018 at 3:51 AM, DmG said:I’m looking for a rod to dedicate to Ned rigs myself. Did you get the MC corzza 67L??? I wanted to get an megabass orochi xxx black Themis but it’s a jdm rod and I seen someone saying theirs broke. Just wondering how the corzza worked out being that all the rods I’m considering have an x-fast tip and are m-ml power rods. I’ve made due with an medium 6’10” *** black. Only downfall is I have to swap my reels to cast Ned’s on it. I have a Scorpion bfs that helps with the casting but I’d rather not have to swap from rod to rod.
If you get the xXx BT from The Tackle Trap the rod will come with a warranty. They are an authorised Megabass dealer and any rods they import will be warrantied. Rod power will come down to the weight you intend to throw. ML rods like the Zodias 610ML will work for neds but are best with the heavier 1/7oz heads in my experience and the 1/10 or 1/20 oz heads are better with a L powered BFS stick like the Corzza 67L. I fish my 1/20 and 1/10 heads on a Volkey 68L which is very similar to the Corzza.
Kistler Helium 3 ML with the north fork blank....nuff said
Zodias without a doubt.
In that price range. I've fished 13 7foot medium light, and a tfo medium light. I've had 2 tfos and dont like them at all. You may see if dobyns has a fury in a 702c. The extreme hp 702 I use now is MONEY.
On 6/1/2018 at 12:49 AM, Dieselguy416 said:Ok so I have had some time with the corzza and it's much better for the Ned. I also purchased a medium tatula ex fast it doesn't seem to balance as well as the MH tatula. Just thought I'd put that out. Thanks everyone for the help. Now I just have to figure out which fury rod I want for frogs. It seems like it never ends. Lol
To me the balance has more to do with what reel is on it than the rod itself but maybe that's just me
On 8/15/2018 at 4:52 AM, BaitFinesse said:If you get the xXx BT from The Tackle Trap the rod will come with a warranty. They are an authorised Megabass dealer and any rods they import will be warrantied. Rod power will come down to the weight you intend to throw. ML rods like the Zodias 610ML will work for neds but are best with the heavier 1/7oz heads in my experience and the 1/10 or 1/20 oz heads are better with a L powered BFS stick like the Corzza 67L. I fish my 1/20 and 1/10 heads on a Volkey 68L which is very similar to the Corzza.
That what’s sucks. Tackle trap is sold out of the rod. I should’ve just grab the xxx from them a while back when I was sure I wanted that rod. I’ve eyed the glx and nrx 802c. 1/7oz is the lightest I’d be throwing with this combo. I’ve been blessed to have an 68ml Phenix k2. This rod works but I’m stuck on using it as an dedicated drop shot when in tactical situations. I’m no pro but I kayak and wade a lot and it’s been times where I wanted to cover a long stretch and having to switch gear slowed the grind down. Ponds and smaller lakes is the most I do so I’m keeping all my combos between 6-6’10. I’m sure I can find a 1pc black Themis still but without the warranty..... I’m still gonna get one. I’ve considered a custom z bone or helium3. And I do have high interest in major craft. I need a nice fast or Xf tip because I’ll probably use this combo for finesse jigs also. I haven’t done any ultralight finesse but now that I own a bfs reel I think I’ll just put together a nice spinning rod for that if i ever get into fishing that light of baits
I have a XXX Themis and while I really like it, it does far far better at the upper end of it's weight range. It will cast a 3/16oz Ned, but not super well. It's very much an XF action and I have never really liked them for light weight lures. I think like 516-38oz is the sweet spot for the BT.
I also have a Phenix Recon 681 casting rod and it is a "fast-medium fast" and it does far better casting light lures.
On 6/1/2018 at 12:49 AM, Dieselguy416 said:Ok so I have had some time with the corzza and it's much better for the Ned. I also purchased a medium tatula ex fast it doesn't seem to balance as well as the MH tatula. Just thought I'd put that out. Thanks everyone for the help. Now I just have to figure out which fury rod I want for frogs. It seems like it never ends. Lol
Any new insights into that Corzza rod? What other presentations have you been using it for?