Help Me Pick A Jdm Spinning Reel! 2024
Hogsticker reply :
I have a 6'7 custom Rod built on a 3 power spin jig mhx high mod (yes it was cut down). I'm looking at the Rarenium ci4+ 2500 and 2500c. Also the Luvias 2506. I'm a bit worried that any of these light reels won't balance things out very well. My next step is a drive out to Cabelas for some balance testing.
Daiwa mag seal warrants some concern, and I like the fact that the 2500 Rarenium will be a breeze to source parts for. The only reel that has the exact specs I want is the Daiwa Freams 2000. If the heavier weight is necessary I may pick up a Shimano biomaster. What ballpark weight have you found that typically balances out an average 6'6 rod? Any thought or suggestions are welcome.
Hogsticker reply :
2500s- shallow, not 2500c- compact. my mistake
Dwight Hottle reply :
Certate
Hogsticker reply :
I know, I know. To much bread, and it needs to be black and silver
thehooligan reply :
Rarenium !!
.ghoti. reply :
On 9/23/2014 at 2:54 AM, Hogsticker said:I know, I know. To much bread, and it needs to be black and silver
You need your reel to match your socks?
roadwarrior reply :
Stella 1000FE
http://www.shimanofish.com.au/products/fishing-reels/spinning/stella-fe.html
Tywithay reply :
Biomaster 2500s? Most of the same tech as the Rarenium, but aluminum.
Hogsticker reply :
Yes, I need the reel to match my Custom Rod. Socks don't matter. Same model rarenium and biomaster weigh nearly 2.5 ounces different. I need this combo to balance. I don't want it to be tip heavy. Right now I'm leaning towards the Luvias 2506. Little heavier than the Rarenium and made In Japan. I've always been a fan of Daiwa spinners and the air bail.
iabass8 reply :
Call me crazy....why would you get a custom rod built before having the reel for it? I am SUPER anal about balance on a spinning rod. It has to be perfect.
anywho, before I even opened up the topic, It was the rarenium ci4+ for me.
Raul reply :
You don't want a 2506 spool, nor a 2004 in case of Daiwa reels, they are shallow spool and unless you like to fish with thin line they won't hold much line. The same applies to any S spool in case of Shimanos.
Hogsticker reply :
The 2506 holds 100 yards of 6 lb mono, 20 lb braid. That should be plenty. The downfall to this is a lesser drag.
Looking at the 2000 Freams compared to the 2000 Ballistic, the Freams says 190 meters of 6 lb, where the Ballistic says 135 yards of 6 lb. Seems odd. Wrong?
Hogsticker reply :
And yeah, I kinda put the cart before the horse, but it is what it is
Tywithay reply :
On 9/23/2014 at 7:15 PM, Hogsticker said:The 2506 holds 100 yards of 6 lb mono, 20 lb braid. That should be plenty. The downfall to this is a lesser drag.
Looking at the 2000 Freams compared to the 2000 Ballistic, the Freams says 190 meters of 6 lb, where the Ballistic says 135 yards of 6 lb. Seems odd. Wrong?
US lines have larger diameter. Spools are the same size.
IAY reply :
On 9/23/2014 at 7:15 PM, Hogsticker said:The 2506 holds 100 yards of 6 lb mono, 20 lb braid. That should be plenty. The downfall to this is a lesser drag.
Looking at the 2000 Freams compared to the 2000 Ballistic, the Freams says 190 meters of 6 lb, where the Ballistic says 135 yards of 6 lb. Seems odd. Wrong?
Japanese lines are standardized in terms of pound to width, where US lines are mostly not.
thehooligan reply :
The magseal and daiwa rotor would be two reasons id definitely go with shimano. I hate how daiwa does there rotors, shimano has the beveled edge and the line just flows off so much better. Plus, shimano line management is the best...
Hows that rod balance ? Ive always done well with 1000 size shimanos on 6'10 and shorter rods. 2500 and up on 7ft +
The closest comparison i could think would be, i had a 6'8 medium heavy new cumara spinning rod and i had it paired with a ci4+ 1000, ci4 1000, and sustain 1000fg. All weighed between 6-6.5 oz and balanced great. A 7oz 2500 would of been heaviest/biggest reel id go on a 6'8/6'9 rod...
J Francho reply :
find a used Morethan Branzino.
Hogsticker reply :
Perfect. Thanks fellas
Hogsticker reply :
Let me throw one more thing at ya. 8 lb fluorocarbon. Shallow or regular spool?
IAY reply :
On 9/23/2014 at 9:54 PM, Hogsticker said:Let me throw one more thing at ya. 8 lb fluorocarbon. Shallow or regular spool?
The width is different depending on which brand it is, but you don't need a shallow for something that thick.
Hogsticker reply :
Tatsu. It would be backed with mono on a regular spool. With a shallow spool I wouldn't bother with backing. Either way, I'll use 100 of the Tatsu now, and change it out with the remaining 100 next summer
Tim Kelly reply :
I like the 2506. No need for miles of line for bass fishing, so no need for miles of pointless backing. Regarding the balance, depends entirely how you hold the rod. 3 or 4 fingers in front of the reel stem it will make a big difference between a heavy and light reel. Two fingers either side of the reel stem and it won't make any significant difference. I hold with 2 fingers either side and like a light reel. If the outfit needs balancing then I put some lead in the end of the handle.
Hogsticker reply :
Thanks Tim.
Capt.Bob reply :
I always go with a standard spool, You can use only a little if you have more line than you need, you can never use more when you don't have enough!! On a 6'7" rod in that weight I hope you didn't go with less than a 7 1/2" rear handle or balance with the lighter reels will be a problem wothout knowing materials used to build the rod hard to guess,,,, and no way to know. As far as drag with any of the reels mentioned, with only 6 or 8# test, they all offer more max drag than would ever be needed for those lines.
Good luck but as others have said, I always go to my rod builder with the reel in hand, and he builds it to that reel, without having the reel or at least the weight of the reel it is no better than trying to match a reel to a rod off the shelf. As a matter of fact if weight is being considered and trying to keep it light, the size spinning reel usually has an influence on the size of guides used to start the guide train,,, good luck hope it works out without using weights to get it right, but that is always an option and I have done that with a couple new St Croix Extremes I got new for less than 1/2 price even after changing to full cork grips. There is always a way, but when you build a custom from now on always have your reel for the finished rod before hand, it will make it much more efficient in the final results!!!
Hogsticker reply :
The rod was built with the intention of a Luvias 2506,weight, stripper guide, etc. It has ss sic Fuji K guides. I strapped a 6.7 Oz casting reel to it as I don't own any other spinning gear. Not sure if the shape of the reel makes a difference in balance, but it was a little tip heavy. It balanced about 3 fingers above the foregrip. I should likely just stick to the original plan, but that rarenium keeps staring at me.
mod479 reply :
Check the gear ratios too, JDM reels are usually geared lower. In the case of the reel you want, its a 5.0:1 or lower.
Hogsticker reply :
Will have a new Rarenium 2500 in a few days!!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
The blank, grip length and composition, your own grip, guides all affect the balance and feel of a rod. It's impossible for anyone else to really help with something like this. Hope your choice works out for you
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 9/29/2014 at 4:41 PM, Hogsticker said:Will have a new Rarenium 2500 in a few days!!
I was thinking of you when I saw that reel for sale. Good buy.
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