Line Snapping Issue 2024
bassfisher54 reply :
Lately i have been having a problem with my line snapping alot. Im using a duckett ghost 7 foot med heavy with a lews laser mg line is w15lb power pro i use most a palomer knot. Its been snapping on all lures spinners punch rigs swim jigs texas rigs. Dont know what the issue could be have checked guides and seems to be no sharp spots. Any thoughts or solutions??? Thank you in advanced
FinCulture reply :
you could be tying you palomar knot wrong, that happened to my dad, resulting in like five rainbow trout receiving free spoon-style lip piercings. if that's not the case then switch to maybe 30 pound line. its pretty thin and you may want that anyway for your punching applications.
gardnerjigman reply :
I always make sure I leave a little extra length on the tag line with braid.
kcdinkerz reply :
Try a double Palomar. Though power pro shouldn't be a problem other braids like nanofill I had to use a double Palomar because the knot kept slipping
hatrix reply :
The issue with braid is it can not handle instant shock all at once. Like for instance getting a backlash mid cast and snapping off a lure. Are you hammering home your hook sets and doing it with a bunch of slack in the line? That right there can be a problem. Even if it doesn't break right away it can be breaking strands on the inside and gradually making it weaker. That happens with braid over time even though you can't see it. If it's the knot possibly I would recommend a Uni or SDJ.
bassfisher54 reply :
Most of the snapping is happening on cast. But hook sets i do hammer home.
gulfcaptain reply :
One thing I haven't seen anyone say above, wetting your knot before you pull it tight. My partner in a tournament a few weeks ago wasn't used to fishing braid. Had his line break several times at the knot. If it is dry at all where you pull it tight you will damage that part of the line causing weak spots which then lead to well failed spots in the line followed by a few 4 letter words.
bigbill reply :
Change your knot often.
I run copolymer line three times thru the eyelet.
WRB reply :
15 lb braid may be too small diameter for your reel and is digging into itself causing line damage. Go up to 30 lb, not for the strength for the increased diameter.
Standard Palomar isn't the best knot for braid, slips. Power Pro recommends double line knots, use them.
Tom
wisconsin heat reply :
Like WRB said, 15lb test braid is too small for baitcasters. I would know, as it was the first braid I tried on a baitcaster when I first got one. Line ends up snapping on casts because it gets weakened very easily on casting gear. It is also troublesome to cast because of its small diameter, it's like trying to cast 4lb monofilament.
Jaderose reply :
Weird....I use 15lb power pro on my bc and have never once had line snap. Never have line dig in and I use Palomar almost exclusively. *shrugs*
gulfcaptain reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 7:06 AM, Jaderose said:Weird....I use 15lb power pro on my bc and have never once had line snap. Never have line dig in and I use Palomar almost exclusively. *shrugs*
I'd have to agree with you. I use 15lb and 20lb braid on some of my crankbait rods. Never had any issues either with lighter braid. Maybe we are doing something wrong 
poisonokie reply :
x2 on the uni knot. Palomars are easy (sometimes), but the claims people make about them are vastly overrated. I double the line through and tie a san Diego jam and never had any issues, but that's just because it's easier for me to tie than a uni knot.
FinCulture reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 6:26 AM, WRB said:15 lb braid may be too small diameter for your reel and is digging into itself causing line damage. Go up to 30 lb, not for the strength for the increased diameter.
Standard Palomar isn't the best knot for braid, slips. Power Pro recommends double line knots, use them.
Tom
but the palomar is a double-line knot
Jaw1 reply :
I use a double Palomar knot exclusively on braid with no problems. Uni knot becomes a mess for me on braid. Have a friend who wasn't used to fishing braid and was using his normal gorrilla slam hookset and blaming the line for his lost fish finally had to contact powerpro to convince him he was wrong. (Hardhead)
gardnerjigman reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 7:31 AM, gulfcaptain said:I'd have to agree with you. I use 15lb and 20lb braid on some of my crankbait rods. Never had any issues either with lighter braid. Maybe we are doing something wrong
I'm with you guys. Lol
papajoe222 reply :
Check the line guide on your reel if it's a baitcaster, or the roller on your spinning reel bail. I'm not sure if that's a spinning or casting Duckett you're using. Either could be nicking the line and on a hard cast or hook-set is the opportune time for it to fail.
WRB reply :
With some bait casting reels the level wind worm gear isn't fast enough to spread the braid out so it doesn't dig down into itself. The Palomar is a double line knot, the double uses 2 wraps, the double SD knot is a double line knot. The issue is very small diameter line on standard or larger diameter wire hooks.
Tom
hatrix reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 6:14 AM, bigbill said:Change your knot often.
I run copolymer line three times thru the eyelet.
Is there a reason you go 3x through the eye? A Uni, SDJ, Improved Clinch, and probably a palomar should be a 80% if not 90% + knot just one time through. I personally don't see how much stronger it makes a knot if it is tied properly to begin with.
Not_Here reply :
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bassfisher54 reply :
Thanks for all the input i think its a mix of bad casting and not wetting the line
1BADAIR reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 11:35 AM, Frog Turds said:could be your casting technique...if your overhead whip casting (like cracking a bullwhip) vs letting the rod load it can/will snap off...15# is light & no stretch, bad casting technique will do that to you if all else is in order with your knots, no guide flaws or damaged line etc...
that is if its snapping up the line in places vs definitively at the knot itself...X2
x2. I was having a problem with my leader breaking right below the knot. I have a problem casting too quickly and not keeping the rod loaded. Hasnt happened since I pay more attention to casting
d-camarena reply :
I use 15lb pp and ive never broke off. And im known for some mean hooksets
Turkey sandwich reply :
All good advice. I'll jump on the heavier line/baitcaster train. I bought a Lews SS BB1 earlier this year and wanted to smash it. I spooled it with 20lb PP Super Slick and expected it would help with crankbait depth. Nope. It was catching on itself and causing hellacious backlashes, damaging line, and actually broke mid cast. I was fuming, but didn't want to give up on the reel, so I've since switched it to 30lb 832 and while it's still fickle compared to my Chronarchs, it casts a mile and the line comes off smoothly.
Braid 20lb and under ---> spinning reel
Braid 30lb and over ----> baitcasting reel
Also, you might want to consider what you're dragging your braid over. While heavy braid (40lb+) can cut vegetation, anything smaller will get damaged, and even at that, braid is not the most abrasion resistant option around rocks, nasty wood, etc.
SirSnookalot reply :
don't know offhand, probably the same cause for each event
tappinbass reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 4:51 AM, hatrix said:The issue with braid is it can not handle instant shock all at once. Like for instance getting a backlash mid cast and snapping off a lure. Are you hammering home your hook sets and doing it with a bunch of slack in the line? That right there can be a problem. Even if it doesn't break right away it can be breaking strands on the inside and gradually making it weaker. That happens with braid over time even though you can't see it. If it's the knot possibly I would recommend a Uni or SDJ.
My buddy I fish with a big time hard hook setter. I wish I had a dime for every time I saw him snap braid on hookset. All brands, all weights. But hey, "I can pull in ten foot logs" he uses in his defense. Personally I would rather hook 3 pound bass than land ten foot logs.
hatrix reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 9:35 PM, tappinbass said:My buddy I fish with a big time hard hook setter. I wish I had a dime for every time I saw him snap braid on hookset. All brands, all weights. But hey, "I can pull in ten foot logs" he uses in his defense. Personally I would rather hook 3 pound bass than land ten foot logs.
When I got into fishing again and started using braid I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. I could feel everything so good it seemed and I never had to retie cause it was indestructible. I could do whatever I wanted it seemed with no fear of breaking off. Little did I know that underneath my line was getting weaker and weaker from getting silly with hooksets and never retying anything unless it involved a lure change. After breaking off so many times fishing plastics I realized it had to be from me trying to catapult the out of the water with a slack line hookset.
einscodek reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 11:35 AM, Frog Turds said:could be your casting technique...if your overhead whip casting (like cracking a bullwhip) vs letting the rod load it can/will snap off...15# is light & no stretch, bad casting technique will do that to you if all else is in order with your knots, no guide flaws or damaged line etc...
that is if its snapping up the line in places vs definitively at the knot itself...
Yes I agree if the break can be detemined to be downline of the knot then its time to address this.
Otherwise learn to tie the knots properly.
If its not the knot, suggest up the # and/or add a shock leader (which is how I solved the very problem or whippy cast braid breakage)
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