Glidebait Reel? 2025
PitchinJigz reply :
Since I've lived on the west coast for almost a year now, it's about time for me to get into the glidebait game. I plan on picking up the Megabass I-Slide, Duo Realis Onimasu, and Jackall Gantarel. I was wondering what reels you guys use for these big baits (2.5-3oz). I really can't drop $300 on a swimbait reel, but I was looking at the Shimano Cardiff or even the Curado I 200PG. I've seen some guys use the 200PG for bigger swimbaits, is the reel suitable for those applications? I already have one and love it. If you have other recommendations let me now. Thanks
Mosster47 reply :
I throw my big stuff on a Calcutta 400 with 30lb CXX, but the smaller stuff (glide baits fall into that) I throw on an Abu 4600 C4, 20lb CXX for line.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I wouldn't throw baits that size with my Curado 200I's. The 300 Cardiff would be a good option. If you check on the Bay right now you could get an Okuma Citrix 364 for a very reasonable price. They're a pretty popular reel for flinging big baits.
I personally use a 300E Curado on my rod that does most of my glidebait work, and a 400B Calcutta for the biggest baits.
PitchinJigz reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 2:41 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I wouldn't throw baits that size with my Curado 200I's. The 300 Cardiff would be a good option. If you check on the Bay right now you could get an Okuma Citrix 364 for a very reasonable price. They're a pretty popular reel for flinging big baits.
I personally use a 300E Curado on my rod that does most of my glidebait work, and a 400B Calcutta for the biggest baits.
I want a 300E, but it's a little expensive. Plus, it'd be nice if Shimano would release a Curado 300I. Hopefully that's next. Not a fan of Okuma, kinda brand loyal to Shimano and Daiwa.
Grantman83 reply :
Lews bb2 can be had for $115 in places and has 10 more yards of capacity than the Cardiff 300
IAY reply :
20lb CXX has breaking strength of over 30 lb and 30 lb CXX has breaking strength of 40-50 lbs. They are ridiculously thick lines and are over kill for the baits OP is trying to throw. A 200 size holding 100 meters of .370 mm line is perfectly fine.
Mosster47 reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 9:53 PM, IAY said:20lb CXX has breaking strength of over 30 lb and 30 lb CXX has breaking strength of 40-50 lbs. They are ridiculously thick lines and are over kill for the baits OP is trying to throw. A 200 size holding 100 meters of .370 mm line is perfectly fine.
I agree a well made 200 size reel can do the job. A 4600 isn't much bigger. I learned my lesson with line. I had a R2S 200 go sailing off into oblivion using 17lb fluoro.
I'll take overkill over watching $45 fly away.
IAY reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 10:51 PM, Mosster47 said:I agree a well made 200 size reel can do the job. A 4600 isn't much bigger. I learned my lesson with line. I had a R2S 200 go sailing off into oblivion using 17lb fluoro.
I'll take overkill over watching $45 fly away.
Yeah you should do whatever you feel comfortable. Although I have never lost a lure from backlash using .380mm Trilene Big Game 15 lb.
Fisher-O-men reply :
You want a low gear ratio. Those baits are fished slowly. Also get mentally prepared for 1000 casts per bite.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 12:22 AM, Fisher-O-men said:You want a low gear ratio. Those baits are fished slowly. Also get mentally prepared for 1000 casts per bite.
I actually fish them quickly most of the time and get a pretty vicious reaction strike when they're on it.
While it's not a numbers game, I've had many multiple fish, and a few days with over 2 dozen fish, on glides. Of course it depends where you fish. West coast where they see these things a lot, probably going to work a lot harder for those bites. Here in Kansas, they don't see big baits very often believe it or not.
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 12:31 AM, Bluebasser86 said:
I actually fish them quickly most of the time and get a pretty vicious reaction strike when they're on it.
While it's not a numbers game, I've had many multiple fish, and a few days with over 2 dozen fish, on glides. Of course it depends where you fish. West coast where they see these things a lot, probably going to work a lot harder for those bites. Here in Kansas, they don't see big baits very often believe it or not.
I noticed you retrieve in a cadence. Does that give the bait a "jerkbait" look?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 12:34 AM, Fisher-O-men said:I noticed you retrieve in a cadence. Does that give the bait a "jerkbait" look?
It's sort of like walking a spook below the surface or nearly on the surface in the case of that day. I don't do much with the rod like a jerkbait or WTD bait though, the reel does most of the work.
Josh Smith reply :
I use my jerkbait rod and reel. It's a Daiwa M/F with a modified 4600c3 (all bearings, 31ipt).
I fish these plastics like jerkbaits, though.
Josh
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 1:17 AM, Josh Smith said:I use my jerkbait rod and reel. It's a Daiwa M/F with a modified 4600c3 (all bearings, 31ipt).
I fish these plastics like jerkbaits, though.
Josh
Plastic glidebait? Do you mean something like a fluke?
Josh Smith reply :
Yes, a fluke or minnow,
Josh
WRB reply :
Shimano Cardfiff 300 with 25 lb Sunline Armillo Nylon, 165 yd spool fills it.
Tom
buzzed bait reply :
the 300e's are awesome reels, but like you said a little pricey and can be tough to find (if you're a lefty, i kinda regret selling mine some days!
once upon a time i had a cardiff as well and it worked just fine for throwing the big baits.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
your 200 size low profile baitcaster will work fine for baits that size , spool up some 15 lb. line co-poly and your'e good to go .....
PitchinJigz reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 1:56 AM, Josh Smith said:Yes, a fluke or minnow,
Josh
We're talking about glide baits, a usually single-jointed hard swimbait. These are big baits that can be anywhere between 2.5 and 10oz.
On 3/10/2016 at 6:56 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:your 200 size low profile baitcaster will work fine for baits that size , spool up some 15 lb. line co-poly and your'e good to go .....
Looking more on the side of 20lb Sunline fluoro or Defier.
WRB reply :
It may surprise you the Sunline Armillo Nylon 25 lb is .016 dia., same as most 15 lb copolymers like P-CXX 15 lb line.
Lure that exceed 2 1/2-3 oz., impact strength is important IF you should backlash the reel. The line can snap and your expensive glide lure sails off into the distance slowly sinking before you can retreive it.
You can use a low profile 200 size reel, the problem is the spool diameter reduces quickly as 50 yards or more line is cast off, common with bigger swimmers, reducing the IPT nearly 50% making it difficult to get hook set and controlling bass that strike at the end of your cast. 300/301 reels with larger diameter spool reduce that problem.
Tom
PitchinJigz reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 9:22 AM, WRB said:It may surprise you the Sunline Armillo Nylon 25 lb is .016 dia., same as most 15 lb copolymers like P-CXX 15 lb line.
Lure that exceed 2 1/2-3 oz., impact strength is important IF you should backlash the reel. The line can snap and your expensive glide lure sails off into the distance slowly sinking before you can retreive it.
You can use a low profile 200 size reel, the problem is the spool diameter reduces quickly as 50 yards or more line is cast off, common with bigger swimmers, reducing the IPT nearly 50% making it difficult to get hook set and controlling bass that strike at the end of your cast. 300/301 reels with larger diameter spool reduce that problem.
Tom
That's why I like Sunline, their ratings are accurate. A lot of American companies label their lines as 15lb when it should be 20lb to make it seem stronger.
I'm trying to figure out how much 20-25lb Defier Armilo will fit on a Curado 200PG.
WRB reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 11:06 AM, PitchinJigz said:That's why I like Sunline, their ratings are accurate. A lot of American companies label their lines as 15lb when it should be 20lb to make it seem stronger.
I'm trying to figure out how much 20-25lb Defier Armilo will fit on a Curado 200PG.
19 lb Defier is .014D = to most 12-14 lb mono, about 125 yards on a 200 Simano
Tom
clh121787 reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 2:49 PM, PitchinJigz said:I want a 300E, but it's a little expensive. Plus, it'd be nice if Shimano would release a Curado 300I. Hopefully that's next. Not a fan of Okuma, kinda brand loyal to Shimano and Daiwa.
Check out the shimano "Bay game". It's a jdm curado I 300
DesertBass reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 3:44 PM, clh121787 said:Check out the shimano "Bay game". It's a jdm curado I 300
Haha just as I thought I was done spending money.
DesertBass reply :
Here is my current glidebait/smaller swimbait setup.
Currently got it spooled up with 20lb p line flouro which I hate and will be switching to sunline.
However after seeing that "bay game" I might just be throwing that on the crucial instead.
Dan_the_fisher reply :
I have a curado I, bb1 and a bb2 and I think they lack the power for swimbaits. Buy you Phenix m1 swimbait rod, Cardiff 300a and you have you a complete setup under $300 that will throw absolute bombs and feel great. Throw some maxima ultragreen 20# on it and you are ready to go
PitchinJigz reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 3:44 PM, clh121787 said:Check out the shimano "Bay game". It's a jdm curado I 300
You just saved my life. This is exactly what I was looking for.
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