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First baitcaster 2024


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 

Looking for my first baitcasting setup. I want to spend around 150 total. Looking into a shimano convergence for a rod, and I have no idea about a reel. What should I look for in a good reel? So far I am looking for just aluminum frames, because I am hearing bearing count doesn't matter as much, as long as the reel is nice. What else should I look for? Does anybody have any reccomendations for a reel around $80? Thanks


fishing user avatarJig Man reply : 

You might get a good used reel in the flea marker here.  $80 should get you a used Citica or Curado.


fishing user avatarDamn Yankee reply : 

For 80 bucks you can find a lews speed spool on the bay.


fishing user avatarRohan Lupin reply : 

I would get an Abu Garcia Promax reel. I think for the price point you're saying that reel is excellent. It's smooth and will definitely last you a long time. I would suggest also watch YouTube videos to gain further information on setting it up and casting it. Also watch videos on how to deal with birds nest. IMO until ur ready to hit the water and truly give it a go I would spoil it with some very cheap line you can find at Walmart for like 2 dollars and practice practice practice. Getting birds nest on the water when you're trying to fish is extremely annoying. It will still happen from time to time but it will be a lot less frequent. Once you have confidence in your gear I would spool it up with whatever choice of line you have confidence in me then go catch some hogs... Hope this helps... I'm faaaaar Tom now expert but I had a lot of growing pains when first starting out. If I had half this information I would have made as many mistakes as I did.  Happy fishin!!!


fishing user avatarBassGirl71 reply : 

I've been a big fan of KastKing for inexpensive, quality reels for the last few years.  It depends on what you want to do with it, but they have everything from a slower gear ratio White Max for cranking all the way up to the super-fast Speed Demon (9.3:1 gear ratio) for pitching and flipping techniques.  For an all-round reel, I would recommend something like their Assassin.  It's got a 6.3:1 gear ratio  - the gear ratio tells you how fast the line come in while you are reeling.  For instance, with the Assassin, when you turn the handle one time,  the spool will turn 6.3 times, to bring in that much more line.  The higher the gear ratio, the faster the reel.  Keep in mind that you can always slow down or speed up your retrieve to get the cadence you want, too.  Right now the Assassin is less than $60 on Amazon.

 

Bearing count is pretty important. The more bearings you can afford in a reel, the smoother and farther it will be able to cast.  It will also be smoother when you're reeling in.  Drag is also important.  The drag will help you bring in bigger fish and not allow them to take off on you.  Depending on the technique you are using and the line, you will have to set your drag differently.  That's probably a bigger topic than I should add here, but if you know people who are experienced with bait casters, I am sure they can help you figure all of that out.  Depending on what you are doing, you may want a pretty stout drag.  But keep in mind that you don't have to have it cranked down, so a higher drag will give you more techniques that you can use the same reel for. But both bearing count and drag are important, as well as gear ratio.  I hope that helps.

 

Also, as others have said, buy some inexpensive mono and spool up with that first.  Use that to practice until you are comfortable with using a bait caster.  I spent a lot of time in my driveway practicing before I ever took a bait caster out on the boat.  It's really worth learning.


fishing user avatarCTBassin860 reply : 

Welcome to the the boards.You can get a Daiwa Tatula CT on eBay for 100$ slap it on a 7' medium heavy Berkley lightning shock rod for 50$ max.Spool it with mono to start with as your probably going to go through some line learning to use it.You will have a very well rounded setup to start.Im sure others will be here to give you some input soon.Oh and dont get discouraged with it.It takes some time to learn,but youll love it when you get it.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 

There is a new Lew's SSG1H  for $80 (a $100 reel) on another fishing forum.  Closeouts and For Sale forums are your friend.  :teeth:  I especially love closeouts.  The PQ often goes on sale for around $80.  Not used one myself, but it is highly recommended by many others.  The Tatula can be found for $15 more if you can come up with the extra.  The H2O Mettle gets good reviews.  An $80 reel that regularly goes on sale.  

 

 


fishing user avatarbagofdonuts reply : 

I got a new tatula 100 from academy a couple weeks ago for 89 on clearance.  


fishing user avatarXpressJeff reply : 

Tatula 100 on Amazon for $104.95 right no I know that's pushing the limit but it's a good start!


fishing user avatarTX-Deluxe reply : 
  On 4/2/2017 at 5:01 AM, alpaca said:

Looking for my first baitcasting setup. I want to spend around 150 total. Looking into a shimano convergence for a rod, and I have no idea about a reel. What should I look for in a good reel? So far I am looking for just aluminum frames, because I am hearing bearing count doesn't matter as much, as long as the reel is nice. What else should I look for? Does anybody have any reccomendations for a reel around $80? Thanks

What is your skill level?


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 
  On 4/2/2017 at 9:32 AM, TX-Deluxe said:

What is your skill level?

I am just getting into bass fishing, but I saltwater fish a lot, with mostly spinning gear. So I would say beginner.


fishing user avatardavid in va reply : 

Try one before you buy one if possible


fishing user avatarRobert Riley reply : 

If you don't feel like searching for used stuff on the interwebz, check out the Lew's Mach I & II combos. They're great rods and reels for $130 and $169 respectively. 


fishing user avatarfishnkamp reply : 

I would follow MD Bassin508.  Start with a very easy to learn, extremely reliable reel and that fits the Diawa Tatula CT.

I can easily give you a source to buy a brand new one shipped to your door for $100.  Send me an email to fishnkamp@comcast.net.

 

I would order the CT in a 6.3-1 ratio, it is useful for lots of fishing.  

The suggestion of the Berkley Lightning Shock rod is a good one.  

So is Dicks Sporting goods Quantum Escalade 6'6"MH for $49. 

 

I fish 4 Daiwa Tatula Type R reels, and 2 of the newer Daiwa Tatula CTs. They are all terrific reels.  I also fish 1 of the Quantum Escalade rods, it is a 7 footer.

 

Either of these would work well and would fit in your budget.  If you want to check out the Berkley rod stop in a couple of Wal Marts near you. They have these rods marked as $49, but some guys have found that if they have them scanned they came up as on clearance for $9.


fishing user avatarCTBassin860 reply : 

If you are forced to skimp on one or the other,skimp on the rod and buy a nicer reel.Its going to make learning a whole lot easier on you.


fishing user avatar22hertz reply : 

If it was my money I would by a Cabela's Tournament ZX Bass casting rod on sale for $70 and a Diawa Tatula CT for $100 and pick up a spool of P-line floroclear in 10lb for $8

This is IMO the absolute best deal you will find on new equipment.

Cabelas just ran their sale on the rod so I'm not sure when they will run it again.


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 

How are the bass pro reels? Looking at the bionic blade, pro qualifier, and JM carbonlight. The carbonlight looks like the best choice. Does anybody have any experience with these?


fishing user avatarNscheele reply : 

I've got two, a 6.3 and 7.1 gear ratio. They have been excellent reels and eod recommend them to anyone. The dual braking system makes them ideal for a beginner in my opinion. Once they are set up they are pretty tough to back lash. I use them from lighter jerkbaits to pretty heavy jigs and they have performed great. 


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 4/4/2017 at 8:20 AM, Nscheele said:

I've got two, a 6.3 and 7.1 gear ratio. They have been excellent reels and eod recommend them to anyone. The dual braking system makes them ideal for a beginner in my opinion. Once they are set up they are pretty tough to back lash. I use them from lighter jerkbaits to pretty heavy jigs and they have performed great. 

 

Two of which reel?


fishing user avatard-camarena reply : 

Get you a pro max combo and call it a day


fishing user avatarNscheele reply : 

Two of the JM Carbonlite reels.

  On 4/4/2017 at 8:37 AM, new2BC4bass said:

 

Two of which reel?

 


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 

People keep recommending the pro max, but will the graphite frame last? That was one of my first choices, but the graphite scared me away.


fishing user avatarTim Kelly reply : 

A Tatula or Tat CT would be the way I'd go, and the reel will outlast your first few rods. Nothing more frustrating than a cheap baitcaster when you're learning, and still pretty horrible once you have learnt! The Tats, or a Citica /Curado would be a no brainer.


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 

Last year I found a brand new Abu Garcia Pro Max on eBay for $51.  Pretty sweet deal.


fishing user avatarNscheele reply : 

If you aren't extremely hard on equipment, as in throwing them around and general neglect, I don't see how a graphite frame wouldn't last. Every baitcast reel I have is a  graphite frame and I've had zero issues with any of them. Now I do only use them when I can, nowhere near how a professional would, but that shouldn't make any difference. If you want an aluminum frame, go for it. Just keep in mind there is nothing wrong with a graphite frame for the average guy fighting average fish with them. 


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 
  On 4/5/2017 at 12:24 AM, Nscheele said:

If you aren't extremely hard on equipment, as in throwing them around and general neglect, I don't see how a graphite frame wouldn't last. Every baitcast reel I have is a  graphite frame and I've had zero issues with any of them. Now I do only use them when I can, nowhere near how a professional would, but that shouldn't make any difference. If you want an aluminum frame, go for it. Just keep in mind there is nothing wrong with a graphite frame for the average guy fighting average fish with them. 

Thanks. I will be relatively easy on it and probably fish 3-4 times a week. A graphite frame should work. Now, should I go with a silver max or a pro max?


fishing user avatarNscheele reply : 

I started out with a pro max combo and still use it. It's been a nice setup, never had a problem with it. The reel was easy enough to set up and the rod is pretty sensitive and comfortable. For no more than it cost I don't think you would go wrong with it. Mine is the 6'6" medium rod. 


fishing user avatarJaderose reply : 
  On 4/2/2017 at 6:28 AM, BassGirl71 said:

Bearing count is pretty important. The more bearings you can afford in a reel, the smoother and farther it will be able to cast.  It will also be smoother when you're reeling in.

And this is why the Shishamo is the world's best reel.  Pretty sure they just glued bearings to the handles and all over the place.  (bassgirl's statement is NOT always true.)

 

Image result for shishamo reel bearing


fishing user avatarBassGirl71 reply : 

Not sure where you got those photos,  but I've never seen a reel with that many bearings. And yes, bearings do matter. But you're entitled to you opinion. 


fishing user avatarmoguy1973 reply : 
  On 4/4/2017 at 8:07 AM, alpaca said:

How are the bass pro reels? Looking at the bionic blade, pro qualifier, and JM carbonlight. The carbonlight looks like the best choice. Does anybody have any experience with these?

I learned how to use a bait caster on a BPS Pro Qualifier.  I think they are great starter reels.  I've since converted to Lew's as I think they are smoother and cast farther than any other reel I've tried.  BPS has the Carbonlite rod/PQ combo for a little over what you want to spend but that'd be a good starting combo.

 

 


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 

Ok... Here is what I have narrowed it down to. Lews speed spool, daiwa aird, bass pro JM, bass pro bionic place, or pro max.


fishing user avatarfishnkamp reply : 

I am a big Daiwa fan, but I would go Daiwa Tatula CT over any of those.  They can be had for $100 shipped to your door. The Aird has the older designed MagForce braking system. You will find a big improvement when you move up to a Daiwa Fuego or Tatula CT which have the MagForce Z braking system. That system is so easy to adjust and just go fish.


fishing user avatarColumbia Craw reply : 

Diawa Tatula CT and the best rod you can find on sale.  My co-worker just started bass fishing and I handed him my CT, set it and he was winging the baits in 15 minutes.  At 100 bucks it's the way to go.


fishing user avatargreentrout reply : 

Bass Pro Bionic for 80 dollars or the less expensive Tourney Special will suffice if you don't do heavy day in and day out tournament style fishing for a first b/c reel and Bass Pro will back them up with a phone call. I'd get one that brings in at least 26 inches per handle turn. Promise...


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 

I'm just pond fishing, is the tatula overkill?


fishing user avatarmoguy1973 reply : 
  On 4/5/2017 at 10:31 AM, alpaca said:

Ok... Here is what I have narrowed it down to. Lews speed spool, daiwa aird, bass pro JM, bass pro bionic place, or pro max.

I had a Bionic plus on a non-micro Bionic blade and I recently replaced the reel with a Lew's Mach II because the reel developed a grinding noise.  BPS told me that they don't carry that model of Bionic plus anymore so all they could do is give me credit during the Spring classic and not a full replacement.  The rod is just OK.  Not real sensitive so I just use it as a topwater rod now.  The Carbonlite rod will definitely be a better choice than the Blade.


fishing user avatarXpressJeff reply : 
  On 4/5/2017 at 11:10 AM, alpaca said:

I'm just pond fishing, is the tatula overkill?

 

Is a quality reel EVER overkill?

 

It will serve you well longer without issues and fishing will be more enjoyable.

 

Besides, pond fishing is NOT what you will always do!


fishing user avatarRippinLips57 reply : 

Look into the abu Garcia pro max it's a really good high quality smooth reel that will last for a while and it's around you're price range too, The revo is a good reel to but it's like 120 I think but you get what you pay for. :) 


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 4/5/2017 at 11:10 AM, alpaca said:

I'm just pond fishing, is the tatula overkill?

 

No.  I agree with Jeff.  Now if you asked if a Steez, Zillion, Ryoga, Antares, Aldebaran, Conquest, Metanium, "E", Team Pro, Ito Monoblock, etc. were overkill, then I would say yes.  A $280-$680 reel would be a bit much unless you have the funds and love having really nice gear.


fishing user avatarSlipknot_Fan666 reply : 

Tatula or bust. Buy nice gear and you won't have to buy twice.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

 


fishing user avataralpaca reply : 

Ok tatula sounds nice. Is the fuego much different or should I just spend more and get a tatula?


fishing user avatarnameiztaken reply : 

Just posted this on another thread, but the Fuego CT is a great reel (even compared to $160 Curados).

It can be found any day of the week on the auction site for under $80 shipped! Its basically a Tatula CT without T-Wing.

 

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