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Did I Get A Fake G Loomis Nrx? Help! 2024


fishing user avatarseabeejason reply : 

I purchased a G Loomis NRX 873C from www.*.com a while back. I just now realized that it has absolutely no model number markings or any of the other markings that you normally see on a G Loomis rod. It just says "NRX" on it and has the G Loomis logo. This is making me nervous as I am aware of fake NRX rods being sold by certain vendors. Do all of your NRX rods have the model number, such as 873C and the action, etc?  


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

You can call G.Loomis support and get the facts from the source.


fishing user avatarseabeejason reply : 

I did and he said that it should have those numbers on it. I guess I just never noticed. It looked legit when I received it. 


fishing user avatarDypsis reply : 

I only own 2 NRX the 893C and the 852S and they both have the model, lure weight, length, line weight, etc. on it.  Ask Loomis if the company you bought it from is a certified dealer.  If they are and it does end up being fake - you should get your money back or they should send you a new rod.  

 

Hope it works out for you!

 

Matt


fishing user avatarseabeejason reply : 

They are a legitimate. I looked them up on the G Loomis site. I called and they were very helpful and said that it shipped directly from their shop in California. They said that is must have gotten overlooked during the manufacturing process. It happens I suppose.


fishing user avatartomustang reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 3:05 AM, seabeejason said:

They are a legitimate. I looked them up on the G Loomis site. I called and they were very helpful and said that it shipped directly from their shop in California. They said that is must have gotten overlooked during the manufacturing process. It happens I suppose.

 

 

I have seen this before in stores and at fishing shows, they forget to add the writing on them in various spots at times. These rods are very inconsistent when it comes to quality control


fishing user avatarSenko lover reply : 

Ask 'em to give you 200 dollars credit to their store for compensation :D


fishing user avatarMontanaro reply : 

You paid for a product you did not receive.

Hurts resale value of rod. Ask for replacement if it bothers you.


fishing user avatarNice_Bass reply : 

yes. ask for replacement.  if you ever want to sell it, it would be tough and you would have to write this as a disclaimer. 

also could make it hard for warranty?


fishing user avatarCanyon explorer reply : 

~Jason,

I believe every G-Loomis rod that is built by the G- Loomis facility has the size, action, power etc. on the  butt with their logo. Some can pretty much tell by looking. They could also verify, for sure, by taking off the butt cap and looking for their coded mark inside the base of the blank.. However Anyone could, at the time, get an authentic G-Loomis blank without the decal.  Rod builders, like myself, that bought G-Loomis blanks and were supplied factory decals by model to install with other custom modifications for resale. I have never seen a G-Loomis decal that only listed the logo without some description of the blanks character. Today with computer made decal aps bogus rods would not be hard to make. Most guys that fish "Loomis" however could tell just by picking it up. The last I heard G-Loomis no longer sells blanks.


fishing user avatarkcdinkerz reply : 

I was wondering about that saw a few at cabelas that didn't have markings as well only the price tag showed the model number


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

Just to be sure - did you check the exposed blank behind the reel seat/grip and in front of the butt?  This is where the rod specs are on all of my NRXs. In front of the foregrip, all you have are the Loomis logo and NRX as you mentioned.

 

This file photo shows the markings...

 

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fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

return it and get a St.Croix , you will be much happier ....


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 10:33 AM, pgersumky said:

return it and get a St.Croix , you will be much happier ....

to me , a NRX is the same as a Carrot Stix with premium guides ....


fishing user avatarrippin-lips reply : 

^^^ I remember my first beer.


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 

Sheesh, carrot stix? Come on now..


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 12:06 PM, Alonerankin2 said:

Sheesh, carrot stix? Come on now..

yup, super light and break often...


fishing user avatarthehooligan reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 12:21 PM, pgersumky said:

yup, super light and break often...

 

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fishing user avatardeep reply : 

Is that funny stuff you can smoke legal in Cali?


fishing user avatarLendiesel22 reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 11:09 AM, rippin-lips said:

^^^ I remember my first beer.

Lmao
fishing user avatarLendiesel22 reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 8:13 PM, thehooligan said:

facepalm.jpg

Bahahahha d**n funny stuff
fishing user avatarNJSalt reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 10:58 AM, pgersumky said:

to me , a NRX is the same as a Carrot Stix with premium guides ....

 

and there ya have it folks.


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 10:58 AM, pgersumky said:

to me , a NRX is the same as a Carrot Stix with premium guides ....

 

 

That's exactly what I would expect a pgersumky to say...lol.

 

Hootie


fishing user avatarwebertime reply : 

Quick someone say Dobyns and let's blow this whole thread up.


fishing user avatardam0007 reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 9:58 AM, Goose52 said:

Just to be sure - did you check the exposed blank behind the reel seat/grip and in front of the butt? This is where the rod specs are on all of my NRXs. In front of the foregrip, all you have are the Loomis logo and NRX as you mentioned.

This file photo shows the markings...

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I personally would never buy a Loomis unless the money was actually going to Gary, but I will say that is one nice looking rod.


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 11:43 PM, webertime said:

Quick someone say Dobyns and let's blow this whole thread up.

Lol, or maybe "white carrot stix"


fishing user avatarrippin-lips reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 8:13 PM, thehooligan said:

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fishing user avatarLendiesel22 reply : 

I have nothing of value to say, but this is sure making me laugh.


fishing user avatarLogan S reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 1:24 AM, rippin-lips said:

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:);)

Just so I can at least add something constructive, OP should definitely check with the retailer and Loomis to make sure it's legit.  I can't imagine a rod, especially of that caliber,  would roll out with the spec label.  


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

just to clarify my comment (to everyone's humor ) i've read a lot about the NRX problems , from all the breakage and lack of quality control , it is exactly like the carrot stixs years back . the Carrot Stix were super light and sensitive but then a lot of them started breaking . i totally understand brand loyalty , but come on, if this were another brand name , for all the problems and super high cost , the company would be flammed to a crisp !!! people can make all the excuses they want but the cosmetic flaws , reel seat failure , and rod breakage for $ 500 - $650 is incomprehensible . brand loyalty is sometimes blinding .....


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 2:23 AM, seabeejason said:

I purchased a G Loomis NRX 873C from www.*.com a while back. I just now realized that it has absolutely no model number markings or any of the other markings that you normally see on a G Loomis rod. It just says "NRX" on it and has the G Loomis logo. This is making me nervous as I am aware of fake NRX rods being sold by certain vendors. Do all of your NRX rods have the model number, such as 873C and the action, etc?  

return it , there is no excuse for that , if it were my company , i'd be awfully embarassed ...


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 

They must have made one good one, and apparently I bought it....oh well,...ain't I the "lucky" one.

Hootie


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 3:33 AM, *Hootie said:

They must have made one good one, and apparently I bought it....oh well,...ain't I the "lucky" one.

Hootie

a Carrot Stix or a NRX ?? :grin: 


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 3:44 AM, pgersumky said:

a Carrot Stix or a NRX ?? :grin:

Oops...NRX. I would never have bought a Carrot Stix rod. I don't like orange. When I'm fishing, I want to look good. Image is everything ya know....lol.

Hootie


fishing user avatarboostr reply : 

Well, that is embarrassing. My son's 15 dollar shakespear combo has the specs on the rod....


fishing user avatardeep reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 3:33 AM, *Hootie said:

They must have made one good one, and apparently I bought it....oh well,...ain't I the "lucky" one.

Hootie

 

Hey Hootie, did you know you and I share a very special bond?

 

ShimLoomis made three good NRX's. You have one, I have the other two.

 

And it doesn't end there.

 

They also made like only half a dozen good Curado G's, right?

 

You have a few I think? Guess what, I have (or had) the rest.


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

don't laugh , but i still have a 7' XH original Carrot Stix sitting in the corner of my room ,it's been retired for about 7 years :eyebrows: 


fishing user avatarLendiesel22 reply : 

I can dig it


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 

You think we have way too much fun on here?

Hootie


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 4:06 AM, *Hootie said:

You think we have way too much fun on here?

Hootie

we do !!! i'm gonna go fish :eyebrows: 


fishing user avatarLendiesel22 reply : 

Some funny stuff for sure.


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 3:07 AM, pgersumky said:

just to clarify my comment (to everyone's humor ) i've read a lot about the NRX problems , from all the breakage and lack of quality control , it is exactly like the carrot stixs years back . the Carrot Stix were super light and sensitive but then a lot of them started breaking . i totally understand brand loyalty , but come on, if this were another brand name , for all the problems and super high cost , the company would be flammed to a crisp !!! people can make all the excuses they want but the cosmetic flaws , reel seat failure , and rod breakage for $ 500 - $650 is incomprehensible . brand loyalty is sometimes blinding .....

 

Dam, I just bought my first Loomis. It's an IMX and it does have all the specs printed on it. 


fishing user avatarthehooligan reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 3:07 AM, pgersumky said:

just to clarify my comment (to everyone's humor ) i've read a lot about the NRX problems , from all the breakage and lack of quality control , it is exactly like the carrot stixs years back . the Carrot Stix were super light and sensitive but then a lot of them started breaking . i totally understand brand loyalty , but come on, if this were another brand name , for all the problems and super high cost , the company would be flammed to a crisp !!! people can make all the excuses they want but the cosmetic flaws , reel seat failure , and rod breakage for $ 500 - $650 is incomprehensible . brand loyalty is sometimes blinding .....

 

Despite the reel lockdown problem which they fixed, the horrible guide system, or even the really bad balance, you cant compare an nrx to a carrot stix rod !!


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 

I'm lovin my Loomis, No issues at all. Rod and reel under 9oz's.

 

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fishing user avatardeep reply : 

While y'all were funning around, I got off the internet and caught some delicious bass to go with my carrots.

 

Markings on my NRX are in front of the reel seat though. Wonder if it's a fake!

 

First generation NRX as you can see from the single tone foregrip. Still no problems after hundreds of bass and some other species.

 

Mr. Bass says:

Use ShimLoomis

And fear no fish!

 

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fishing user avatarEvanT123 reply : 

I think carrot stick guy might have a point. I build a few rods here and there. One thing I've done is research ergonomics, guide layouts, stadic testing, and weight to death. These factors in my opinion are as important as the brand of blank in terms of a rods intended use and performance.

If you took blanks from gloomis and other top tier manufactures and they had the same type of characteristics based on a common sense measurement system. Outfitted them with the same guide train and layout. I'm talking down to a half millimeter and 1/00 of an ounce. Would one rise heads and tails above the other?

I don't know. Off the small Sampling of this forum I think it would be a tough call.

Op your concern for counterfeit rods is valid in this day in age is a true concern. Like mentioned a few pages back; calling the manufacture is your best bet.


fishing user avatarkickerfish1 reply : 

Would be nice hear from the OP after Goose52 posted the image. Were the specs there?


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

what's going on with the cracked cork ??? forgot all about it till just now , i went to a tackle shop the other day and was looking at the NRX's and noticed the cork on one of the rods was split , i might go there tomorrow and i'll take a picture of it , still blows me away that the Gloomis brand loyals would still buy these rods ...  :Idontknow: 


fishing user avatarJohn G reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 11:21 AM, kickerfish1 said:

Would be nice hear from the OP after Goose52 posted the image. Were the specs there?

If they weren't, I would return it.


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

if everybody likes Gloomis , why doesn't people buy NFC blanks and get the their dream rod made exactly how they want it ??? are the NFC blanks just as good as the Shimloomis NRX's ???


fishing user avatarCgrinder reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 1:20 PM, pgersumky said:

if everybody likes Gloomis , why doesn't people buy NFC blanks and get the their dream rod made exactly how they want it ??? are the NFC blanks just as good as the Shimloomis NRX's ???

 

G. Loomis and NFC are not affiliated. If we could build NRX blanks, we would.


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 2:31 PM, Cgrinder said:

G. Loomis and NFC are not affiliated. If we could build NRX blanks, we would.

i know they are not, just think there are blanks just as good if not better than the blanks that Shimloomis NRX rods are built on ...


fishing user avatardeep reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 9:17 AM, deep said:

While y'all were funning around, I got off the internet and caught some delicious bass to go with my carrots.

 

Markings on my NRX are in front of the reel seat though. Wonder if it's a fake!

 

First generation NRX as you can see from the single tone foregrip. Still no problems after hundreds of bass and some other species.

 

Mr. Bass says:

Use ShimLoomis

And fear no fish!

 

 

 

 

  On 8/4/2015 at 9:58 AM, Goose52 said:

Just to be sure - did you check the exposed blank behind the reel seat/grip and in front of the butt?  This is where the rod specs are on all of my NRXs. In front of the foregrip, all you have are the Loomis logo and NRX as you mentioned.

 

This file photo shows the markings...

 

 

 

 

Nevermind. Figured out the position of the blank info and the logo from the tackletour reviews.

 

The blue rods have all the specs plus the logo in front of the reel seat, like my post shows.

The green rods have the specs behind the reel seat, but the logo in front, like Goose's post shows.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

I saw an Ugly Stik with a crooked sticker… :P


fishing user avatarNJSalt reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 12:39 PM, pgersumky said:

what's going on with the cracked cork ??? forgot all about it till just now , i went to a tackle shop the other day and was looking at the NRX's and noticed the cork on one of the rods was split , i might go there tomorrow and i'll take a picture of it , still blows me away that the Gloomis brand loyals would still buy these rods ...  :Idontknow: 

 

well I guess it's a good thing that it's their money and not yours, right?


fishing user avatarMaster Bait'r reply : 
  On 8/4/2015 at 11:09 AM, rippin-lips said:

^^^ I remember my first beer.

Bahahaha well played... But I feel like it may have been a wine cooler haha


fishing user avatarbuzzed bait reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 3:49 AM, *Hootie said:

When I'm fishing, I want to look good. Image is everything ya know....lol.

Hootie

 

could have fooled us with that ugly mug in the avatar pic....


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/5/2015 at 9:56 PM, NJSalt said:

well I guess it's a good thing that it's their money and not yours, right?

absolutely  :respect-059: 


fishing user avatarRedlinerobert reply : 

If you're paying $600-$800 for a rod it better say Megabass on it. 


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

if i wanted a rod like that 873 , i would have it built on a St.croix 5C71MHXF-B , would Citra-strip the blank down to the raw blank , would wrap with micro guides , fuji skt split reel seet and have split EVA grips .

would be a lot lighter and stronger and ridicously sensitive, a killer 3/8-1/2 oz. jig rod ....


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 
  On 8/6/2015 at 12:33 AM, buzzed bait said:

could have fooled us with that ugly mug in the avatar pic....

Hey, Hey,...lol.

Hootie


fishing user avatarMaxximus Redneckus reply : 

500$ for a rod i aaint rich but i can afford that but aint no way...just like someone said before on BR they can afford a Ferrari but they choose a mustang to drive.it aint all about bling IMO 200$ and less rods can do it all and still not break


fishing user avatarSteveo-1969 reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 3:26 AM, Maxximus Redneckus said:

500$ for a rod i aaint rich but i can afford that but aint no way...just like someone said before on BR they can afford a Ferrari but they choose a mustang to drive.it aint all about bling IMO 200$ and less rods can do it all and still not break

 

I was saying the same thing 5 short years ago.  I saw a $100 Carrot Stik in a tackle shop and said "There's no way I would pay $100 for a fishing rod!".  Now I own an NRX and have discovered what a pleasure it is to fish with a rod of this high quality.  I may not catch more fish, but I enjoy the act of fishing more with this rod.

 

I own a Dodge Charger and love it.  But I bet a Ferrari would be even more fun to drive.


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 3:53 AM, Steveo-1969 said:

I was saying the same thing 5 short years ago. I saw a $100 Carrot Stik in a tackle shop and said "There's no way I would pay $100 for a fishing rod!". Now I own an NRX and have discovered what a pleasure it is to fish with a rod of this high quality. I may not catch more fish, but I enjoy the act of fishing more with this rod.

I own a Dodge Charger and love it. But I bet a Ferrari would be even more fun to drive.

A Dodge Charger sounds good to me. I drive a itty bitty Hyundai Accent.

Hootie


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 

Myself? I'm more likely to have a custom made.. But, I wouldn't condemn anyone for spending their own money..( Nrx ) I hear they are amazing.


fishing user avatarMaxximus Redneckus reply : 

I have driven a Ferrari,gtr,supra,audi,benz,nice cars but im a utilitarian every vehicle i have has to carry 5 people and be worked on anyplace or time if need be,my pistol grip baitcasters from all makers does all i need to do i have around 30 of them cheap to mid range i have yet to handicap myself.having a light weight rod to me isnt important i need durable and i can fish all day long with a 10 oz rod and reel combo.


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 4:27 AM, Alonerankin2 said:

Myself? I'm more likely to have a custom made.. But, I wouldn't condemn anyone for spending their own money..( Nrx ) I hear they are amazing.

no one condemned them , just wondering why with all the problems and shoddy work on the rods that people would continue to fork out over $500 plus on these .....


fishing user avatarFishTank reply : 

The silk screening is different for the blue and green rods.  My guess is somebody at Loomis is color blind.   It still should not have been missed, especially during the build process when the rod gets sorted to go out to get guides put on and possibly the wrap done.  It then comes back with the guides done, gets sorted again, and goes to get the guides lined up.  The logo matches the paper work that travels with the rod when it goes out.  The wraps get rechecked. It then gets coated by hand (again should have been seen here).  Then gets inspected and bagged (again should have been seen).  Then finally stored in inventory by the logo, label and paper work.  

 

Every station uses the logo to pass in on to the next during the production process.  

 

If it is real, i am at a loss to how it happened. 


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 11:52 AM, FishTank said:

The silk screening is different for the blue and green rods.  My guess is somebody at Loomis is color blind.   It still should not have been missed, especially during the build process when the rod gets sorted to go out to get guides put on and possibly the wrap done.  It then comes back with the guides done, gets sorted again, and goes to get the guides lined up.  The logo matches the paper work that travels with the rod when it goes out.  The wraps get rechecked. It then gets coated by hand (again should have been seen here).  Then gets inspected and bagged (again should have been seen).  Then finally stored in inventory by the logo, label and paper work.  

 

Every station uses the logo to pass in on to the next during the production process.  

 

If it is real, i am at a loss to how it happened. 

yeah i'm embarrased for them too ...

 


fishing user avatarMaxximus Redneckus reply : 

Like pgersumky says ..if your paying 500$ for a rod that has a history of poor craftsmanship. IMO id rather use a rod that just gets the job done.its like saying hey i have a Lamborghini in my driveway buts its blown up.


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 11:52 AM, FishTank said:

The silk screening is different for the blue and green rods. My guess is somebody at Loomis is color blind. It still should not have been missed, especially during the build process when the rod gets sorted to go out to get guides put on and possibly the wrap done. It then comes back with the guides done, gets sorted again, and goes to get the guides lined up. The logo matches the paper work that travels with the rod when it goes out. The wraps get rechecked. It then gets coated by hand (again should have been seen here). Then gets inspected and bagged (again should have been seen). Then finally stored in inventory by the logo, label and paper work.

Every station uses the logo to pass in on to the next during the production process.

If it is real, i am at a loss to how it happened.

It no doubt got spotted. Probably by more than one person. These days, so many people have that, "it's not my job" attitude.

Hootie


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

So Chicken Little says the sky is falling (I don't think my NRX has the specification data on the blank).

 

Then we get about 60 posts of Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, and Turkey Lurkey jumping on board and saying YES, the sky is falling.

 

Meanwhile, the OP has disappeared and we still don't know for sure if his rod REALLY is missing the data.

 

Geez, you usually only see this type of thread in winter.  Everyone should go fishing or something... :lol:   :lol:   :lol:


fishing user avatarCgrinder reply : 

Yep. Goose has it right. I've been out enjoying my NRX instead of arguing. XD


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 7:07 PM, Goose52 said:

So Chicken Little says the sky is falling (I don't think my NRX has the specification data on the blank).

Then we get about 60 posts of Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, and Turkey Lurkey jumping on board and saying YES, the sky is falling.

Meanwhile, the OP has disappeared and we still don't know for sure if his rod REALLY is missing the data.

Geez, you usually only see this type of thread in winter. Everyone should go fishing or something... :lol::lol::lol:

ROF.. Funny stuff! How about Old McDonald next time? Lol..


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

One of my Saint Croix rods has hand written specs from the factory, lol. Must be poor quality!


fishing user avatarCgrinder reply : 
  On 8/8/2015 at 4:23 AM, J Francho said:

One of my Saint Croix rods has hand written specs from the factory, lol. Must be poor quality!

 

That probably looks pretty good, or at least unique. 


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/7/2015 at 4:25 AM, *Hootie said:

A Dodge Charger sounds good to me. I drive a itty bitty Hyundai Accent.  :laugh5: 

Hootie


fishing user avatarS Hovanec reply : 
  On 8/6/2015 at 2:03 PM, pgersumky said:

if i wanted a rod like that 873 , i would have it built on a St.croix 5C71MHXF-B , would Citra-strip the blank down to the raw blank , would wrap with micro guides , fuji skt split reel seet and have split EVA grips .

would be a lot lighter and stronger and ridicously sensitive, a killer 3/8-1/2 oz. jig rod ....

Slightly off topic, but you would have a killer rod with a voided warranty.
fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

And when it broke, would probably post all about it here, lol.


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/8/2015 at 8:45 AM, S Hovanec said:

Slightly off topic, but you would have a killer rod with a voided warranty.

because of removing the blank finish ? that's a no , i did it to my 9' big nasty , don't you think i would have checked before i did that to a $280 blank ....


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/8/2015 at 9:23 AM, J Francho said:

And when it broke, would probably post all about it here, lol.

:Idontknow: don't think so ...


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/8/2015 at 9:23 AM, J Francho said:

And when it broke, would probably post all about it here, lol.

you being a Mod on here , you would think you would keep it civil , lose the smart remarks please ....


fishing user avatarGlenn reply : 

Ya, the kids are getting a bit testy on this one.  Remember kids, it's fishing.  It's supposed to be fun.

 

And scene....




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