3lb Crappie out of knowhere 2024
ThomasMcAllister reply :
So this baffles me. This spring i was fishing in a large bass pond (about 15 acres) and i caught a 3 lb crappie. I have never seen or caught any other crappies in this pond. Ive been fishing there for about 3 years. Does anyone have any idea as to where this fish is in the pond ( i fish from shore so i am unaware of any structure far out, although i dont know hown large. But i do know there is a drop off some ways out.) this also brings me to another point. I have caught a 10lb (about 3 years ago) bass in there a 5lb bass and many fish in all weights below that. they have all been in the same spot. this spot was a small brush pile in a deepish spot in the pond. That brush pile was depleted though, by many snags and dragging in the brush. I rarely catch fish over 14 inches. I assume there is something towrds the middle of the pond that attracts the big fish, but i am not sure. does anyone have any other ideas? thanks.
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Edited by ThomasMcAllisterTurtle135 reply :
do you have a map of the pond? aerial view from Google Earth or Google Maps?
Darren. reply :
Welcome aboard, Thomas!
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 8:51 PM, Turtle135 said:do you have a map of the pond? aerial view from Google Earth or Google Maps?
I added a link to an aerial view
Turtle135 reply :
I am adding that image to this thread so others can see the pond in question
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 8:51 PM, Turtle135 said:do you have a map of the pond? aerial view from Google Earth or Google Maps?
On 10/4/2016 at 9:18 PM, Turtle135 said:I am adding that image to this thread so others can see the pond in question
thank you
On 10/4/2016 at 9:16 PM, ThomasMcAllister said:I added a link to an aerial view
Turtle135 reply :
That is a tough one to judge from afar. It looks like that pond is actually 5 to 6 acres based off the measurements I am seeing on Google Earth. The shape of the pond does not give a lot of clues about what is going on under the surface of the water. Based on the topography of the surrounding land there is a creek channel running down the length of that pond but much of it might be out of reach on a cast from shore.
What I would do is spend some time with a jig taking depth readings. Cast your jig into 5 feet of water and count how long it takes for it to reach bottom. Then start bombing casts out into the pond from various spots and count how long it takes for the jig to reach bottom. That should help you get an understanding of what the bottom contour is like.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 9:53 PM, Turtle135 said:That is a tough one to judge from afar. It looks like that pond is actually 5 to 6 acres based off the measurements I am seeing on Google Earth. The shape of the pond does not give a lot of clues about what is going on under the surface of the water. Based on the topography of the surrounding land there is a creek channel running down the length of that pond but much of it might be out of reach on a cast from shore.
What I would do is spend some time with a jig taking depth readings. Cast your jig into 5 feet of water and count how long it takes for it to reach bottom. Then start bombing casts out into the pond from various spots and count how long it takes for the jig to reach bottom. That should help you get an understanding of what the bottom contour is like.
Thank you. Do you have any idea on how that crappie got there? My theory is that someone may have released it here, but that seems very unlikely.
On 10/4/2016 at 9:53 PM, Turtle135 said:That is a tough one to judge from afar. It looks like that pond is actually 5 to 6 acres based off the measurements I am seeing on Google Earth. The shape of the pond does not give a lot of clues about what is going on under the surface of the water. Based on the topography of the surrounding land there is a creek channel running down the length of that pond but much of it might be out of reach on a cast from shore.
What I would do is spend some time with a jig taking depth readings. Cast your jig into 5 feet of water and count how long it takes for it to reach bottom. Then start bombing casts out into the pond from various spots and count how long it takes for the jig to reach bottom. That should help you get an understanding of what the bottom contour is like.
if this helps at all, half of this pond is man made. its a flood control dam.
Turtle135 reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 10:08 PM, ThomasMcAllister said:Thank you. Do you have any idea on how that crappie got there? My theory is that someone may have released it here, but that seems very unlikely.
My guess, somebody did release that crappie there. I could see DNR stocking that body of water with bass and bluegills but I doubt they would stock that body of water with crappie.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 11:15 PM, Turtle135 said:My guess, somebody did release that crappie there. I could see DNR stocking that body of water with bass and bluegills but I doubt they would stock that body of water with crappie.
yeah there is bass bluegills and carp. Also a very large populations of snapping turtles. that picture is very old, but there are also two beaver dams now
riverbasser reply :
pretty disappointed. I wanted to see a pic of the 3lb crappie!
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 11:30 PM, riverbasser said:pretty disappointed. I wanted to see a pic of the 3lb crappie!
sorry i dont have a picture
shimmy reply :
I am guessing there is no picture of the 10 lber either...
Turtle135 reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 10:08 PM, ThomasMcAllister said:if this helps at all, half of this pond is man made. its a flood control dam.
do you think there is an old submerged pond there (from before they built the dam)? that might provide for some fish holding bottom contour
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/5/2016 at 12:09 AM, shimmy said:I am guessing there is no picture of the 10 lber either...
nope. sorry. i dont have pictures of anything. when im outdoors i leave technology at home. it ruins nature for me.
On 10/5/2016 at 12:29 AM, Turtle135 said:do you think there is an old submerged pond there (from before they built the dam)? that might provide for some fish holding bottom contour
could be possible. i will look into that. thank you for the help
Ratherbfishing reply :
I don't understand your question. Is it that you released it and want to find it and catch it AGAIN? If so, at what time of the year did you catch it last time? A three pound crappie is a mighty big fish. I don't know a LOT about crappie but usually very large examples of most fish tend to be loners and hang around street corners smoking cigarettes.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/5/2016 at 3:02 AM, Ratherbfishing said:I don't understand your question. Is it that you released it and want to find it and catch it AGAIN? If so, at what time of the year did you catch it last time? A three pound crappie is a mighty big fish. I don't know a LOT about crappie but usually very large examples of most fish tend to be loners and hang around street corners smoking cigarettes.
Sort of. I caught it in spring. its not necessarily that i want to catch it again, but im wandering where all the big fish like that crappie could be hiding. i have been fishing here for a couple of years, and ive never seen anh crappie and very rarely do i catch a bass over 14 in. But i know there are big fish in there, so i was wandering where this fish could possibly be. I know underwater structures play a large rule in where bass will spend most of there time.
Ratherbfishing reply :
On 10/5/2016 at 7:17 PM, ThomasMcAllister said:Sort of. I caught it in spring. its not necessarily that i want to catch it again, but im wandering where all the big fish like that crappie could be hiding. i have been fishing here for a couple of years, and ive never seen anh crappie and very rarely do i catch a bass over 14 in. But i know there are big fish in there, so i was wandering where this fish could possibly be. I know underwater structures play a large rule in where bass will spend most of there time.
I guess I'd try to retrace my steps-if not now, in the Spring.
Yeajray231 reply :
Get you a kayak or inflatable boat. I admit that you look kind of silly to someone there with any type of boat.. standing on the bank .. pumping your boat up. But you can get some pretty decent ones for a modest price and you don't feel so silly when you catch a bass in a place you didn't have access to without it.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 7:17 AM, Yeajray231 said:Get you a kayak or inflatable boat. I admit that you look kind of silly to someone there with any type of boat.. standing on the bank .. pumping your boat up. But you can get some pretty decent ones for a modest price and you don't feel so silly when you catch a bass in a place you didn't have access to without it.
lol I actually have a little inflatable raft and I have tried fishing from it. There's only a handful of people that fish/know about this pond, so i only look silly in front of myself haha. The only problem was when I was out towards the middle the wind would blow me right back to shore after about 1-2 casts. I've been looking into kayaks though.
Yeajray231 reply :
Anchor ?
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 8:05 PM, Yeajray231 said:Anchor ?
im not sure how to attach an anchor to an inflatable boat
Yeajray231 reply :
Lol it doesn't have to be much... I think I use a 10 or 15 lb anchor . I just tie mine to one of the handles. The wind will still push you around but you won't drift away.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 8:28 PM, Yeajray231 said:Lol it doesn't have to be much... I think I use a 10 or 15 lb anchor . I just tie mine to one of the handles. The wind will still push you around but you won't drift away.
oh sweet. where would i get one of these anchors
On 10/7/2016 at 9:54 PM, ThomasMcAllister said:oh sweet. where would i get one of these anchors
Ill just use a 10 lb dumbbell. I assume itll grip the bottom pretty well
Yeajray231 reply :
Yea that will probably work. The one I have i found in my past grandfathers shed, it looks like a mushroom. But I'm assuming you can buy one anywhere marine items are sold. I'd try Walmart.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 10:55 PM, Yeajray231 said:Yea that will probably work. The one I have i found in my past grandfathers shed, it looks like a mushroom. But I'm assuming you can buy one anywhere marine items are sold. I'd try Walmart.
thanks ill try it
iabass8 reply :
I once partied with bigfoot too.
Yeajray231 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 2:43 AM, iabass8 said:I once partied with bigfoot too.
Lol are you referring to the dumbbell ? He's not fishing a big windy lake. Honestly it's just a big pond. My 10-15 lb anchor does great. Like I said it will push you around but it won't drag you around in this scenario. I think the dumbbell could work with my raft. Depending on the bottom . Which im assuming is muck. So. It would definitely work .
iabass8 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 6:34 AM, Yeajray231 said:Lol are you referring to the dumbbell ? He's not fishing a big windy lake. Honestly it's just a big pond. My 10-15 lb anchor does great. Like I said it will push you around but it won't drag you around in this scenario. I think the dumbbell could work with my raft. Depending on the bottom . Which im assuming is muck. So. It would definitely work .
Yeajray231 reply :
Yaok
iabass8 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 7:23 AM, Yeajray231 said:Yaok
Yaokmaybe?
Yeajray231 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 8:06 AM, iabass8 said:Yaokmaybe?
not sure what you're getting at. I don't see anybody else chiming in. Except for someone with nothing better to do than clown off.
iabass8 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 9:13 AM, Yeajray231 said:not sure what you're getting at. I don't see anybody else chiming in. Except for someone with nothing better to do than clown off.
My initial response was in reference to the OP catching these fish and no having pictures. (A common way of saying "pics or it didn't happen)How you linked my post to your dumb bell anchor and raft story is beyond me. You may need a hug.
Yeajray231 reply :
10lb is possible in a 6 acre pond for sure. I don't know monster crappie and monster bass can happen in a 6 acre pond. Unless it's stocked with a forage package annually . Yea I need more than a hug.
On 10/9/2016 at 9:21 AM, iabass8 said:My initial response was in reference to the OP catching these fish and no having pictures. (A common way of saying "pics or it didn't happen)How you linked my post to your dumb bell anchor and raft story is beyond me. You may need a hug.
iabass8 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 9:28 AM, Yeajray231 said:10lb is possible in a 6 acre pond for sure. I don't know monster crappie and monster bass can happen in a 6 acre pond. Unless it's stocked with a forage package annually . Yea I need more than a hug.
You'll be okay.
Yeajray231 reply :
How are you so sure?
shimmy reply :
First off, hugs are great since everyone wins. Second, yehjray, the main point is the OP is claiming he caught a bass and a crappie in the same 6 acre pond that were within 1 pound of the state record. He does not bring electronics, but still managed to weigh his fish. Hence why iabass's post is so important because I think we may actually know where big foot lives and it is near the 6 acre lake behind Christopher Robbins enchanted neighborhood. There are 10 pound donkeys named Eeyore, but most of all...I think we might find Winnie the Pooh. Something to think about.
But to add to this, I used inflatable rafts and found the best way to anchor was to bring a cooler and tie the rope anchor to the handle of the cooler. This is the best way in my opinion to anchor without tying a rope to the raft and causing potential problems.
Gundog reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 9:33 AM, iabass8 said:
Awwwww. That is one cute monkey. 
iabass8 reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 1:49 PM, shimmy said:First off, hugs are great since everyone wins. Second, yehjray, the main point is the OP is claiming he caught a bass and a crappie in the same 6 acre pond that were within 1 pound of the state record. He does not bring electronics, but still managed to weigh his fish. Hence why iabass's post is so important because I think we may actually know where big foot lives and it is near the 6 acre lake behind Christopher Robbins enchanted neighborhood. There are 10 pound donkeys named Eeyore, but most of all...I think we might find Winnie the Pooh. Something to think about.
at least somebody understands
soflabasser reply :
Nice looking pond.
VolFan reply :
A tube sock full of rocks with a rope tied to the middle or end makes a perfectly serviceable anchor for a one-person inflatable. The crappie probably either washed in, or was an accidental in the stocking as sometimes happens. Crappie are big schoolers, so if there's one there should be multiple. They'll spawn on small flats with brush next to the creek channel in spring.
this whole thread is painful.
ThomasMcAllister reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 9:21 AM, iabass8 said:My initial response was in reference to the OP catching these fish and no having pictures. (A common way of saying "pics or it didn't happen)How you linked my post to your dumb bell anchor and raft story is beyond me. You may need a hug.
Whether it happened or not wasn't important to the questions I was asking. This spring Im going to try to re catch the crappie and ill get a pic this time.
On 10/10/2016 at 8:07 AM, iabass8 said:at least somebody understands
On 10/9/2016 at 1:49 PM, shimmy said:First off, hugs are great since everyone wins. Second, yehjray, the main point is the OP is claiming he caught a bass and a crappie in the same 6 acre pond that were within 1 pound of the state record. He does not bring electronics, but still managed to weigh his fish. Hence why iabass's post is so important because I think we may actually know where big foot lives and it is near the 6 acre lake behind Christopher Robbins enchanted neighborhood. There are 10 pound donkeys named Eeyore, but most of all...I think we might find Winnie the Pooh. Something to think about.
But to add to this, I used inflatable rafts and found the best way to anchor was to bring a cooler and tie the rope anchor to the handle of the cooler. This is the best way in my opinion to anchor without tying a rope to the raft and causing potential problems.
I use a really old scale i got from my grandpa, its basically a spring scale with a tape measure on it. Thats also why i cant get exact readings, just around 10 or 3 or 5 lbs. But whether you believe me or not, its not necessarily relevant to the question.
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