Sturgeon General Warning:"Senkonlylimitativism" 2024

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Does anyone have any friends with this new affliction?

Seems a few friends of mine are falling prey and I've lost friends because of this drastic disease in the past.

Seems some people can't put down the senko. They are now "senko only" it seems and the versatility needed to be a successful angler with any consistency will never be achieved.

In a way I am very happy that there was no such lure when I was learning. I suppose Tom Mann brought the rubber worm to the forefront and many people probably succombed to plasticwormonlylimitativism also but I think that may have been more of a social change than an Epidemic like this new killer of versatility.

Any thoughts? Any suggestions on how to help a friend get out of being reliant on 1 or 2 baits? How can you encourage versatility other than slapping a buddy in the cheek with a jig/pigged Largemouth tail? I mean,...you can only drop so many fish at someones feet and say "Now do you want to put one of these on?" Hmmm, what to do.

KU_Bassmaster. reply :

This is almost surreal ......... Are you making trips to KS and fishing with my main fishn' buddy??? Is my main fishn' buddy making trips to RI???

You just described him to a "T"!!!!! It gets so frustrating sometimes. Especially when there is a good crankbait bite going or any other faster moving bait for that matter. Sense the trolling motor is in the back of both of my boats (for now) I am stuck and can only fish as fast as his senko can fall and get back to the boat .................. FOREVER!!!! There are those days when the number of fish you can catch is limited to the number of casts you can make. He just doesn't get that for some reason. There has honestly been days where I catch 20+ and he might catch 2 or 3

When I first started fish with him, his bait of choice was Crappie jigs. He then saw me catching more and bigger bass on T-rigged plastic worms so he slowly made the switch. (I can't really talk too much though. Up into about 5 years ago, I was either throwing a T-rigged worm or a jig) Then I started catching loads of bass on the weightless senko 2 or 3 years ago and he sooooooooo reluctant to switch. And when he did, he refused to fish them weightless. Finally about the middle of last year, he started fishing them weightless.

So let's just hypothetically say we spot some bass 500 ft. down on the depth finder ........ guess what he is tying on. Yep ..... a weightless Senko. :-[ I seriously don't know why he even carries a tackle box. :-/

I can't wait till I get a T/M up front. I will enjoy seeing him try to fish a weightless Senko with the T/M on high. ;D ;D ;D

deadeye32. reply :

Man what a small world, I have buddies that are exactly the same way and it drives me crazy at times. I personally love trying new baits, presentations, and things all the time just to keep getting better and be more versitile, but I have one buddy for instance that will throw the same da#% white spinnerbait every single day under any condition. I know that there are lures of confidence and baits that I know I could go out and catch fish with every time, but I like to change it up a bit and challenge myself. I guess we should just be thankful that we have buddies that we can fish with and hopefully they will figure it out.

flippin4it. reply :

I don't just limit myself to the Senko, I guess that makes me a functioning Senk-o-holic. I try and throw spinnerbaits,cranks,jigs,jerks,drop shots,poppers,buzzbaits, just to mask the addiction...........Is there hope?????????? LOL. I throw it all, but I will throw a Senko in tough conditions.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Don't get me wrong,I throw it all the time as well. When I can get a real good senko bite going though,I use that as an indicator that they are feeding and this would be a good time to try and gain confidence in somthing new or a new technique with an old lure.

But yea, I'm no dummy,it gets thrown plenty in my boat but not thrown exclusively!

guest reply :

I am a recovered senkowhatchamacallit.

I never was exclusively a senkophile, but when I first started to fish them I was "hooked". It took some time to get the senko monkey off my back but even though I rarely throw them anymore, I still "never leave home without them" It's the Linus blanket of the bass fisherman.

Yesterday was a good case in point. I was getting skunked on everything. Out came the Senko's and in came the bass.

I went through a smiliar phase with the sluggo. When that first hit the market I remember looking at it and laughing. It was just too dumb looking to catch bass. Then of course the results came pouring in. I bought some and couldn't believe how effective they were. Still carry Sluggo's.

Currently I'm like that with the chatterbait, although not to the extent of either the senko or the sluggo. but still..............................so may lures, so little time.

Zel... reply :

For Immediate Medical Release. The Sturgeon General advises you to perform an immediate LBH-OSCOPIC SENKODECTOMY on your buddy

The Procedure:

::)While preparing boat (when buddy isn't looking), carefully open tackle cavity,

:-[Extract the afflicting Senkos (without affecting other vital areas such as the Jig'n'Pig or the Tubes).

:-/Place Senkos in automobile to be transplanted back into boat at a later time.

;DWhile on lake explain to buddy the delicate procedure that has taken place, and inform him that is for his own good. Stress that he must be weaned off the afflicting product, because left unchecked the condition will result in another rare disease know as Senkus Inflexiblus, which will stunt his growth.

:'(Of special note: Be sure to wear your lifevest as Senko withdrawal has been know to cause forced wetness.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Hmmm,....An "intersenkovention".

I like it,....bombard him with jig love. Strip and then overwhelm the senses. Bass fishing Shock & awe......

Nick_Barr reply :

Totally describes my buddy, I can get him to stop throwing the senko, I always encourage him to try something different and he doesnt!!!!!!!!!!

flippin4it. reply :

I failed to mention that I'm becoming a touch of a Ike-a-holic too. Is there a cure for that? I would like to get it under control soon. I'm getting a large Ika and Palm collection.

roadwarrior reply :

Well, I have had the same affliction since 1997. I tried to cure it with the Fat Ika, but that's like switching from opium to morphine: no net gain. This spring I forced myself not to fish soft plastics until April...Last month I caught my first 5 lb bass of the year and then fifteen more. Luckily, I have had some big bass success with the Bomber Square A, but I know I'm just kidding myself...

There is no cure!

KYbass1276 reply :

I went though that phase with senko's as well throwing nothing but them, but I burned myself out with them and while I still use them I will throw them for a while just to see if the senko bite is on but if it don't produce then cya senko time for something else.

RoLo reply :

Yah, I'm guilty too, there was a time when I did the senko to death.

Okay it wasn't a senko per se, but it was a stick worm (same thing).

Sadly, to this day all my favorite bass lures fall under the blanket category "Plastic Worm".

Though I may be a recovering senkoholic, I cannot deny my ongoing addiction to the plastic worm.

I'm still on the hook, I just moved myself from the barb to higher up on the shank.

Look at me, I'm beginning to tremble just talking about "long cylindrical plastics":

Senko - Zoom finesse worm - Zoom trick worm - Yum ribbontail - Gambler paddletail - Wacky worm

PHEEW, I Am One Sick Puppy

Roger

airborne_angler reply :

I am guilty of throwing Senko and Senko knock offs a majority of the time. Why? Plain and simple fact: THEY WORK...PERIOD. And they are almost almost a do-nothing,no brainer to use . The pond I fish has really low water and is choked with weeds. I use it because I can cast it far out towards the open holes in the weeds . I sometimes throw weightless t-rigged plastic worms too. Plastic baits are what I cant peel myself away from. The reaction strike you get from a crankbait or spinner baits are cool but I love to play the "Game of wits" with the fish when I fish plastic worms and such. I love to watch the V-Shaped silouette when the fish dart out from cover to go after my plastic on the fall. The anticipation of the bite is enough to kill you but it almost always happens. Just builds my confidence. I mostly catch dinks in this pond but to me any Bass caught is a good Bass

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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I am guilty of throwing Senko and Senko knock offs a majority of the time. Why? Plain and simple fact: THEY WORK...PERIOD. And they are almost almost a do-nothing,no brainer to use .

This is exactly my point. What do you do when they aren't working? People become dependant on 1 or 2 baits and really limit themselves to only catching when they are on. Granted, this is often, hence the issue, but what about when they aren't? I still have lots and lots of confidence in this situation. Does the "senko only" angler?

The "no brainer" part also adds to my point. There are people that can fish 1 lure 8 different ways in search of a pattern. They can do this with many different types of lures. These "tools" and pattern finding strategies never get developed in the "senko-only" angler.

K_Mac reply :

One of the fundemental truths of addiction is that a person will not recover until he or she is ready. Interventions, switching drugs/lures, beating with large numbers of big fish/facts will rarely have any positive effect on the addict. My Father-in-law has a very serious addiction to spinnerbaits/heavy line. I have spent years trying to show him the error of his ways. I personally have some C-rig dependency issues. In the interest of public service I offer the following:

How do you know if you are afflicted with single lure dependency? Honest answers to these questions may help:

1. Do you have 10 rod/ reel/lure combos in the boat but use only one?

2. Do you often continue to use one lure when those around you are catching more/bigger fish on something else?

3. Do you find yourself using that lure even when you said at the beginning of the day you were not going to use it?

4. Do you continue this lure even when fishing freinds and family tell you there is a problem?

5. Do you lie when asked about use of this lure?

If you answered yes to one or more of these questions you may have a problem. Most experts would recommend a 12 step program to begin the road to recovery.

Now repeat after me: "My name is (your name here) and I am a (your lure of chioce here)holic."

.ghoti. reply :

Addiction is such a harsh term, let's call it "presentationally challenged", and admit that we've all been there, at one time or another, with a variety of baits. To put a positive spin on it, it's a good way to learn a type of bait, as long as you don't get stuck in a rut.

Raul reply :

Don 't get me wrong but I can 't find a justification to limit yourself to a senko all the time, I got a big bunch of them however I rarely tie one on.......am I the weird one ?

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Yes Amigo, yes you are..................... but that's besides the point!

razyrsharpe reply :

there is no cure for being a senkoholic. the first step toward recovery is admitting you have a problem. we just have to deal with it. does anyone know a good 12 step program?

cravenfish reply :

I have a friend who has become sick with chatterbaitidous. He put down a Senko and picked up a chatterbait, now he cant stop. Please send HELP!!!! :-X :-X

mgmoore7 reply :

I am addicted!!! Help me please. :-/

I know it and try to stop but I just can't. That pole with a 5" green pumpkin is like a magnet to my hands.

I try to try something else, but I can't help myself, they work and it is too hard to try something else.

Seriously though, the senko style bait can be fished easily in my lake from a 10' jon boat and it catches fish. I have tried everything else and I went almost fishless for over a year after I moved there on my lake until I found the senko. Before senko, I tried all the old standbys that worked in the past on other lakes but they did not work on mine.

I need to get more serious and give other lures more time. It is funny that when reflecting on a 2 or 3 hour trip that was not very successful, I find that I will fish the senko for 75% of that time and try 2 or 3 other lures for the other time. If I would give the other lures equal time I am sure the results with those lures might get better.....

[move]BUT .... I AM A D D I C T E D[/move]

Vyron reply :

Senkos catch fish like crazy. I can count on my fingers the times senkos didnt produce fish for me.

I start with senko and when i catch a nice bass ,i have less stress so i start 2 experiment with other lures.

About the no brainer , senkos can be fished in a variey of ways. It not so "no brainer" lure

I ll give an example. In tough situations i let the senko sit on the bottom and lift only the head of the senko.It takes practise 2 do this.

ww2farmer reply :

I joined the senko bandwagon rather late, this is only my 3rd year using them. So I had confidence and skill with other lures before picking them up. They are just another tool to me, I'll put them away as quik as I am to use them if I feel another lure/pattern is going to be on. Honestly I REALY love shallow crankbait fishing and would prefer that if the fish would play nice and bite them.

Madhouse27 reply :

K-Mac has helped me to realize that I indeed have a problem. I took the self test and it appears that I am a gruboholic. I certainly need to get some help. Perhaps a new bait will help take my mind off grubs and begin the healing process. Hmmm maybe if I start throwing a Senko....what could the harm be in that

j-bass reply :

It really does no good to get over-reliant on one type of bait...and I found that out the other day. I've been using, and doing very well with, Berkley Power Hawgs (minor powerhawgitis........d**n that 'itis). I went out and threw that bait for about an hour or so....got a few nibbles but no hook-sets. It was about that point when I remembered that I hadn't thrown a spinner in almost a month. First cast, and on the fall, hooked and landed a nice 3 lb'er. Poor 'lil spinner, all the neglect.........I beleive it was a case of acute spinner deficiency. The doc says I'll be better soon (after a weekly 12 step w/ powerhawgaholics annonymous).

Ozarker reply :

I suffer also. I have been getting better with help from the Zoom Horny Toad, but maybe its just a new addiction? I used to be the same way with the tube...then the fluke...then the trick worm. I love to fish weightless soft plastics, especially the senko

Redtail reply :

Yes - I have a bad case of it. Mine is Senko / Ika disease. LBH definately had me in mind when he wrote this - but he is still my friend and he is exactly right!

I love catching LMB so much and I do pretty good using soft stuff. I feel like I'm wasting my time with everything else. I really do give the other stuff a shot, but I usually have the same result. Nada. It's so hard to throw other stuff when you know the soft stuff will probably catch you a bigun! I NEED HELP!!!!!

Crankin - Just gives me a Spankin

Spinnerbait - All I ever do is Wait

Jerkin - I always take a Hurtin

Tried a Jig - Ain't my Gig

Ikaika reply :

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Don 't get me wrong but I can 't find a justification to limit yourself to a senko all the time, I got a big bunch of them however I rarely tie one on.......am I the weird one ?

Raul I'm with you...I only have one bag of Senkos and I've caught one fish on them. I'm much more successful with a lizard or a jig.

abelfisher reply :

Get goup of yours and his friends together and call him in for an "Intervention"

Tell him you are all there to assist with his affliction.

Put together a 12 point plan to ease him away from the Senko.

That is: Have him use a sluggo, then a tiki stick, that large plastic workms then ease him into other plastices...then to other types of baits.

lastly, YOU MUST, take away all his SENKO's ............and send them directly to ME!!!

FlyRod reply :

While I like soft stickbaits, I buy Wave Worm Tikis instead of those overpriced things from Yamamoto. Besides, he's never apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor!

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FlyRod

Captain Cali reply :

I'm so guilty my swimbaits have dust on 'em. :'( Actually...most of my other baits have dust on 'em because of Senkos. I've been using almost nothing but senkos for the last 4-5 weeks.

Cephkiller reply :

I've gotten to the point that I'll only throw a Senko as a last resort. It just doesn't seem fair to use them otherwise.

carySE406 reply :

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While I like soft stickbaits, I buy Wave Worm Tikis instead of those overpriced things from Yamamoto. Besides, he's never apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor!
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FlyRod

We've been studying WW2 in history class and every time when I'm zoning out and my teacher says general Yamamoto I immediately snap out of it. Its crazy

Anyway I knew I had it bad when today I caught a dink on a Fat Ika and immediately switched to a Tiki Stik.

George Welcome reply :

CURE:

Send all your senkos to me - (absolutely no knock-offs please as my garbage pail is a small one).

George Welcome reply :

"While I like soft stickbaits, I buy Wave Worm Tikis instead of those overpriced things from Yamamoto. Besides, he's never apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor! "

Was that supposed to be funny?

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

....I do wonder though,...is your small trash can as full as my livewell?

So far my partner has spent 3x as much money to catch 1/2 as many fish (not literally, but close).

We only throw senkos together. If I'm using it ,so is he and visa versa. This year we will prove once and for all that the Yamamoto brand is not cost justified toother brands. NOT ALL but most.

As of 5/21,

GYCB-41

***-69

GYCB has the big fish so far at 5.2lbs

Alot of times I find,it's not what brand but who landed theirs next to the fish.

I understand that some people get stuck in their ways no matter how much evidence is in front of them but those folks are on their own.

I would just feel like a "sucker" if I were to give him my $6.99

But regardless of anyones opinion on brand, senkos in general are a tough bait to put down. The "brainlessness" of these baits is second only to shiner fishin'.

Zebco202 reply :

I caught my first senko bass this weekend.

Please help, I feel myself falling for this addiction, the bait monkey is already trying to lure me to the tackle shop today at lunch to buy another bag in a different color....please help.

KYbass1276 reply :

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While I like soft stickbaits, I buy Wave Worm Tikis instead of those overpriced things from Yamamoto. Besides, he's never apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor!
>:(FlyRod

Why would he need to applogize he wasn't even there and had nothing to do with it. If you took the time to read the article you would have noticed that admiral yamamoto died during the war. I bought some wave worms tiki sticks on sale a couple weeks and it was a complete waste of money while they catch a few fish the Gycb are more consistant and catch far more fish for me. I did note that some of the wave sticks out of the same package were really inconsistant some would sink fast while others would float and sink very very slow.

Ikaika reply :

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Besides, he's never apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor!
FlyRod

Har har har...not cute and not funny.

Brad_Coovert reply :

Step 1 - Admit you have a problem

Step 2 - Remove all Senkos from your boat

Step 3 - remove all spare Senkos from your closet, garage, car, truck and office

Step 4 - Cut off the 7 Senkos off that you have rigged on your spare rods in the garage

Step 5 - Go to Post Office and get required Priority Mail box(s) necessary to pack Senkos

Step 6 - Gather all Senkos from Steps 2 through 4 into one place

Step 7 - Drool (or cry) one last time as you stare at the dozens, 100's or 1000's of Senkos you have in your pile

Step 8 - Remove that pack of Senkos you snuck into your back pocket (Remember, you HAVE a problem)

Step 9 - Place all Senkos in the boxes you obtained in Step 5

Step 10 - Ship all Senkos to a designated removal facility (I am an official Senko removal facility, I have a license and everything)

Step 11 - Throw away your GYCB catalog

Step 12 - Go buy some Chatterbaits or Swim Blades - They are far less addicting.

Trust me, this will work.

Brad

George Welcome reply :

I agree with Brad except for one small detail: prior to sending them to the removal/disposal center you must send them through the general processing center - send e-mail to get proper address.

K_Mac reply :

In an effort to help Brad and George with this unselfish offer, PM a list of the offending and dangerous lures to me and I will send the proper mailing label to assure the material is handled properly.

Zel... reply :

I've rethought this Senko dilemma.

Heck keep your Senko addiction, I think it could be a good thing. Go out and buy every Senko size and color they make.

Also, did you know there is a new lure from Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits coming out called the SWIMMING SENKO, which is currently only available in prototype form. Yamamoto used the bait to flip brush en route to a 3rd-place finish at the recent Kentucky Lake FLW Tour, targeting brush in 2 to 3 feet of water and rigged the bait on a 5/0 straight-shank hook with a 5/16-ounce screw-in weight. His new Senko is expected to hit the market later this year. Below is a picture of it so you can start saving your money up now in anticipation.

Now, since you won't have any room left in your tackle storage for your other lures (with all the Senkos you will amass), just SEND ME EVERYTHING ELSE you have. Heck, I might even pay for the postage.

langs15 reply :

I can't give up my senko addiciton! :-[

earthworm77 reply :

The senko is a great lure but it is singlehandidly responsible for retarding the learning curve of a generation of bass anglers.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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The senko is a great lure but it is singlehandidly responsible for retarding the learning curve of a generation of bass anglers.

Amen!

KU_Bassmaster. reply :

Didn't Gary Y himself say something along the lines like .... He wished he had never "invented" them???

langs15 reply :

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The senko is a great lure but it is singlehandidly responsible for retarding the learning curve of a generation of bass anglers.

You just hit the nail right on the head!

Captain Cali reply :

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The senko is a great lure but it is singlehandidly responsible for retarding the learning curve of a generation of bass anglers.

How so? Please explain... :-?

carySE406 reply :

The senko is such an easy bait to fish and catch fish with, it isn't allowing anglers to become educated on what the fish want in a specific situation. This, in turn hurts fisherman when they dont know what to do when the senko is not working in a particular place. It's all about versatality and the senko is restricting anglers to just using one bait because it usually catches fish. As much as I dont want to say it, I'm thinkin about leavin the Tiki Stiks at home next time. :-/

FlyRod reply :

Well, to each his own...

I'll wager I know so much or (likely) more than most Americans re WW2. I sure as H--- know that Gary isn't same man as the Yamamoto who planned the Pearl Harbor attack. He'd have turned 122 years of age last month, fer cryin' out loud.

Further, he was an honorable man, within the framework of the Bushido Code, despite the fact that he was the enemy. In further fact, it was he, post-the Pearl Harbor attack, that obliquely foretold Japan's defeat when he said "I fear we have wakened the sleeping giant."

That fate did not allow him to "go down with the ship" seems almost cruel. It was a flight of US Army Air Forces P-38 Lightnings http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/p38-b.jpg that got him as he sat helplessly as a passenger in a Mitsubishi G4M "Betty" bomber. http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/g4m1.jpg.

Since we had broken the Japanese Naval Code early in the war, we were able to determine when the admiral would pass a certain point on a flying inspection tour and...bingo! That same "reading the enemy's mail" was what allowed us to win at Midway.

Looky, if I'm willing to risk a joke here fairly often, (and most are well-received,) then I accept that I can't please everyone. I'll bet a few folks got a snicker out of that one, however.

And if I'm willing to put up with the frequent assaults on English grammar and spelling on this forum, I'm willing to take the barbs directed my way as well.

So, let us march on. Shall we?

Rod. F.

Veteran and avid wanna-be military/naval historian.

Captain Cali reply :

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The senko is such an easy bait to fish and catch fish with, it isn't allowing anglers to become educated on what the fish want in a specific situation. This, in turn hurts fisherman when they dont know what to do when the senko is not working in a particular place. It's all about versatality and the senko is restricting anglers to just using one bait because it usually catches fish. As much as I dont want to say it, I'm thinkin about leavin the Tiki Stiks at home next time. :-/

I understand that...but why blame the senko. Blame the anglers for being closed minded and not throwing anything else. Afterall...no one forced anyone to buy senkos/stick baits. I'm the first to admit that I've been throwing senkos more than anything else recently. But I still change it up if the senko bite doesn't feel right. If it wasn't for the senko...I would have a lot less confidence in other soft plastics at this point. The senko is what tought me how to slow down. Until I started using senkos and fat ikas I didn't know how to slow down. It still took me a while to realize that slow is best but I learned. If that has retarded my learning curve then so be it. I can't help the fact that they just flat out catch fish.

I see where you guys are coming from...but the bait didn't tie itself onto the line and it sure didn't cast itself out on every outing. That's all in the anglers hands.

Troutfisher reply :

HEY! I use senkoes all the time and always come up with fish on them!

George Welcome reply :

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The senko is a great lure but it is singlehandidly responsible for retarding the learning curve of a generation of bass anglers.

Amazing statement Craig.

FlyRod reply :

I admit that I have, over the bazillion years I've been fishing, I've often become fixated on one lure, brand or model of rod or reel, line, etc. That applies to both fresh and saltwater fishing. It's so bad at times that if I reach the lake, beach, cabin-at-the-coast, then realize I have forgotten to bring along a supply of 4.81 inch Super Whizzle fo' Shizzle lures in THE color (Pepperoni/DogVomit) I assume a fetal posture in the boat, on the sand, whatever, and moan that there is no point in even making a cast...that's how bad it gets.

Thankfully, I can report some progress in the battle. For the last 10 years or so I have been forcing myself to engage in "Research and Development" in the area of tactics, methods, and (perhaps more importantly) lure selection. I'm so into it now that one of my partners (not Rebbasser. He is of like mind.) says he can't wait to see what I'll try next.

Now, as to being a "sheep" and following the herd, so far as it applies to recently developed, revived, and/or rediscovered stuff, specifically lures for this scribbling, OK, I'm guilty. While I didn't pay $3,745.98 each on EBay for them, I DID order some Chatterbaits and SwingBlades as an add-on to a rod purchase.

I was so impressed with the way they looked and felt (vibrate your arm off!) that I made certain I started the day with one a few weeks ago. Result? Zilch.

Undeterred, I bought some more at Academy, convinced that THOSE colors will do the trick TODAY at Choke Canyon.

Rebbasser and I will meet at 0445, make the trek to CC, and entertain the alligators. I'll FORCE myself to toss the new WonderBladedChatterSwinger until I either catch the new lake record OR drop dead from exhaustion. Be aware, however, that, every five casts or so, I'm picking up some other rig and throwing a "confidence" bait...perhaps a Tiki Stik?

BTW, I made an impulse purchase a couple of days ago. It's a lure called a "Johnny Rattler", made by Luhr Jensen, and it's reminiscent of the old Dalton Special topwater lure. It comes in two sizes and ain't pricey. I bought more than one, of course, on both sizes and two different finishes...Chrome/Black back and ALL Black for night bassin'. It's a "crossover" lure...useful in fresh or saltwater environments.

http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=luhr+Jensen+Johnny+Rattler&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3Da09610b00afab3e7%26clickedItemRank%3D4%26userQuery%3Dluhr%2BJensen%2BJohnny%2BRattler%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.bubbajackstackle.com%252Fluhr%252520jensen%252520Johnny%252520Rattler.htm%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSBoom%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bubbajackstackle.com%2Fluhr%252520jensen%252520Johnny%252520Rattler.htm

I'll be tossing one today, when the Chattering SOB fails to produce, that is...

FlyRod

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Capt Cali- No blame being put anywhere persay. Just a general comment that with 1 bait that is so successful (and let's not forget to give kudos to GY for making it America's #1 bait bar none) many folks never "learn" to overcome diverse situations by being "versatile". Like being in a rut.

This topic/thread is not an insult to anyone who strictly fishes senkos. Not at all. If anything, it should just bring awareness. Heck, for the next 2-3 weeks, I'll probably throw 1 85% of the time. They fill a need formany different "types" of anglers. The senko-holic is just 1 of them.

There is also the person who may get very limited time to fish. If it were me, I would bring senkos and shiners if I only got to fish once a month, or even worse, only a couple times a year! Absolutely.

Not knocking senko's, just their grip on folks whom I'm sure would like to reap the rewards that being a diverse angler provides.

Captain Cali reply :

Russ, I know where you're coming from. I never thought you, or anyone else, were knocking senko users. Your assessment is right on. My point is the senko did not retard the learning curve for a generation of anglers. Anglers who rely soley on the senko, or any one bait for that matter, have retarded their own learning curve. Sure, the argument can be made that if it wasn't for the senko we wouldn't be having this discussion. But again...it's all in the anglers hands.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

or the fishs' mouth to be more precise!!

langs15 reply :

Since I have the problem, i am trying to just use poppers and creatures...sofar it's all good!

Captain Cali reply :

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or the fishs' mouth to be more precise!!

Well said!

langs15 reply :

Since I have a big problem....with fishiing just senkos since they work the BEST for me...I think you all should do this with me...

I am going to JUST FISH poppers and Creatures......work with me people!

Flatfish reply :

Let's not try to hard to cure this dreaded disease, I have heard from a very reliable source there is going to be a Senko Masters Classic this fall. Ike has already committed to this and said"If one of my fish dies, I am going to stand on my head on my trolling motor and yell while eating a bag of #222". I don't want to miss this.

Redtail reply :

As a wise man named Road Warrior once said, "I go fishing to CATCH fish."

If you were out fishing and getting NADA on crankbaits, spinnerbaits etc. and your partner was killing em on senkos, you wouldn't tie one on because you think it's too easy? WOW

When I go fishing, I also wanna CATCH fish, even if it means using a helicopter lure if it is working!

I wish I was a better angler and more versatile, but I ain't gonna look a gift fish in the face.

Maybe I don't take it seriously enough, but I do like Catchin!

Irrelevant reply :

I have the same problem with a buddy of mine - except in his case, it's a specific topwater lure.

AmBASSador reply :

For years I used plastic less that 50% of the time. That was before the senko and the new type frogs/toads. Now it's more like 75%of the time. If you are not using these newer type baits.....YOU ARE BEING OUT FISHED!!

jb_adams reply :

I have already asked this question a while back. Since I have now tried this "mystifying bait", I like how it is similar to a fluke. Have I caught a fish with one yet?? Nope. It is definitely a slow way to fish. If the bait was producing, I might be tempted to use it more but seeing how I am still a beginner to the sport, I don't have enough patience. My problem is the opposite of the brain-washed "senko-holics", I keep the bait monkey happy and do the typical beginner mistake, tie on baits faster than I can loose them.

I typically try a bait up to 10-20 casts in one area where I know fish are. If there are no bites, I try something different. I am trying to learn which baits to use based on conditions of that day, water clarity, etc. but I still tend to try new things. Do I try the same bait twice in two different areas? Not really. Should I try it in another area where it failed in one? Yes, I would think so.

Currently, I am fishing out of a motorless Jon boat so I don't get around quickly or extremely quietly. I try to keep from banging the boat but sometimes, things happen. I'm still having fun and still going fishing to try it again so at least I am not banging the boat loudly and using nothing but senkos!! It could be worse huh!!

Raul reply :

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If you are not using these newer type baits.....YOU ARE BEING OUT FISHED!!

I don 't think so :. It 's not the wand......it 's the magician.

earthworm77 reply :

Cali, there are just so many guys I've met in the past 7 years or so who have relied on this bait so much that they have handicapped themselves by losing any versatility they had in their bass fishing approach.

I'll be the first to admit the Senko is a fantastic bait but as Raul said, it is totally the magician, not the wand that brings success. Too many guys have lost their ability to know when to switch patterns or tactics due to changing conditions on the water. I fished 3 years in a club where it seemed to me that 95% of the membership fished this bait exclusively from Spring through Winter. I'm not bragging but I cleaned their clocks by being versatile and using different approaches. There is no magic bait....there are popular and hot baits but they change with the times.

Troutfisher reply :

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As a wise man named Road Warrior once said, "I go fishing to CATCH fish."
If you were out fishing and getting NADA on crankbaits, spinnerbaits etc. and your partner was killing em on senkos, you wouldn't tie one on because you think it's too easy? WOW

When I go fishing, I also wanna CATCH fish, even if it means using a helicopter lure if it is working!

I wish I was a better angler and more versatile, but I ain't gonna look a gift fish in the face.

Maybe I don't take it seriously enough, but I do like Catchin!

Amen. You have my %100 agreement.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Redtail- When you have those days of 20+ fish, after 5 or so youknow there is a good bite on. sSwitch up. Use this time to learn and gain confidence in another bait. ANY other bait. There will be times when the senkoisn't working. What do you do? I'm sure you've gone out on days and not caught. Had you been able to read the conditions and switch up,this may not have been the case. (Refer to Earthworms last reply)

"If you are not using these newer type baits.....YOU ARE BEING OUT FISHED!!"

-but....I'm not being outfished.

JB-Try wacky rigging that and let it drop and sit. Lift it once and drop it again. Reel it in and Repeat. Most hits are on the fall or immediately after the first lift. You really don't want a constant retrieve with this bait too often. The action the bait provides all on it's own during the freefall is where the magic lies. Hope you have better luck with them.

Troutfisher reply :

Ah, I love a good debate.

After reading the last post, I think that if the senko is working use it, and be able to use other lures efficiently if it isn't. Why throw out all the senkoes?

langs15 reply :

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Ah, I love a good debate.
After reading the last post, I think that if the senko is working use it, and be able to use other lures efficiently if it isn't. Why throw out all the senkoes?

I want to learn more about fishing, not just learning about ONE bait, but MANY!

Troutfisher reply :

Well, this is kinda a topic for senkoism, and not really much else.

langs15 reply :

Exactly, it's for getting off the senkos!

Raul reply :

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Ah, I love a good debate.
After reading the last post, I think that if the senko is working use it, and be able to use other lures efficiently if it isn't. Why throw out all the senkoes?

That 's exactly the point of the discussion, if it 's working use it but do not limit yourself to fish only with it. The problem is what EW mentioned, that when it 's not working many anglers don 't know to fish with anything else, they can 't even discern the moment the bait is no longer working, they stick to it and let the world roll. I 've got senkos, lots of them, I catch fish with them but for that matter I also catch fish with a lot other baits so senkos are not my everyday bait, I seldomly fish with them.

I was born into bass fishing in the presenko era, I belong to that generation of anglers of the slugo era, I learned to fish all the baits the hard way, by tying them until caught fish consistently with them, that 's why I 'm as a good fishing cranks as I am fishing spinnerbaits, I hate fishing with soft plastics, it just doesn 't fit my nature, but I can also be lethal with soft plastics when the time comes.

Troutfisher reply :

Sounds good!

langs15 reply :

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Ah, I love a good debate.
After reading the last post, I think that if the senko is working use it, and be able to use other lures efficiently if it isn't. Why throw out all the senkoes?

That 's exactly the point of the discussion, if it 's working use it but do not limit yourself to fish only with it. The problem is what EW mentioned, that when it 's not working many anglers don 't know to fish with anything else, they can 't even discern the moment the bait is no longer working, they stick to it and let the world roll. I 've got senkos, lots of them, I catch fish with them but for that matter I also catch fish with a lot other baits so senkos are not my everyday bait, I seldomly fish with them.

I was born into bass fishing in the presenko era, I belong to that generation of anglers of the slugo era, I learned to fish all the baits the hard way, by tying them until caught fish consistently with them, that 's why I 'm as a good fishing cranks as I am fishing spinnerbaits, I hate fishing with soft plastics, it just doesn 't fit my nature, but I can also be lethal with soft plastics when the time comes.

All my thoughts are in that post!

onebigfish reply :

During the spawn, after finding some bedding bass for the first time in my life, I was called to purchase some "senkos" (Chartreuse/White Kinami Flash in the 4-inch version and Green Pumpkin Yum Dingers in the 3-inch version to be precise). I proceeded to sight-fish and catch them on a Wacky-rigged Yum Dinger and a T-rigged Flash. Truly exciting...and, yes, I JUST HAD TO PURCHASE MORE! However, don't get me wrong...I don't use them exclusively...only when I believe I have found a honey hole.

The use of senkos, as was sight-fishing, for me, was another case of knowledge expansion in this sport I love.

FYI: There is no 12-step program for this affliction...just a 12 pound test.

DDbasser reply :

I tried the senko's last year for the first time after hearing so much about them.

I used them several times and never did catch a fish on them.

About a month ago I gave them another try at a tournmament because one of the boats that was fishing the same area was catching bass on them, again I caught nothing on the senko.

About 2 weeks ago at another tournament we were flippin docks with jigs and couldn't get bit, so I tied on a senko and immedietly began catching fish, I caught 2 keepers and several short fish on them.

We went to another spot and I tried the senko, no bites so I switched to a jig and craw and caught a 3 1/2 lber our biggest of the day.

Yesterday we went to a new for me lake, Hudson in NE Oklahoma.

We picked out some points on the map and c-rigged them, I was throwing a black/blue brushhog on a 3/4oz brass weight. I caught a 2 1/2 lber on about the 5th cast, I caught a couple more short fish on the c-rig.

We came across some docks so I pulled out the jig and nothing, I pulled out the senko and went back across those docks and pulled a 13" bass off one of the docks.

We decided to run upriver and check out some bluffs, again out came the jig and nothing. Soooo, out comes the senko and I caught 3 real good spots and 2 more short fish, my partner who was throwing everything in his tackle bag came up with zero for the day. My wife throwing a fluke caught 2 small bass.

You will not find me on the water without a senko tied on, No I do not solely rely on it but will use it if it's working.

I have figured out a little trick for fishing the senko a little faster, when fishing docks let it sink about 4 feet then if you haven't been bit, reel it in and pitch it to another spot and repeat.

I did try spinnerbaits, crankbaits, jigs, plastic worms, and creatures. But the senko bite was really on.

Hot n Tot reply :

for a long time I overfished the floating Rapala. I always had one tied on a spinning rig and it was my main technique, and now I rarely use them...funny how things change. This morning, the only ones I had in my boat were a jointed J-9 and a husky jerk! I was thinking about that when I started scoring with a finesse worm, and a 4" senko.

DR_Bass reply :

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Addiction is such a harsh term, let's call it "presentationally challenged"

Very funny, that's a good one.

I have a friend who only uses three lures.... jig, 1/8oz T-Rigged senko, and a zoom horny toad. He would only fish with a senko right now if I didn't show him how to use a jig and a horny toad, but his limitations is fine with me...... as long as there is a good spinnerbait bite going on.

He might catch on one of these days.

rebel909 reply :

the senko is one of my favorite baits and i often succumb to overusing it, but i actively try to use different lures, jigs, cranks, spinnerbaits, c-rig. it just seems like i always have trouble catching fish using the other ways, and as soon as i switch back to the senko, i get several bites. maybe this is just a confidence issue, but i try hard to use the other baits.

abelfisher reply :

Use the Senko as a 'Search" bait. Then after finding the fish with the Senko, switch to a different bait; one which you are trying to master and fish the same hole. This would start moving you away form the Senko and allow you to start expanding your fishing bait usage with confidence.

Hot n Tot reply :

Using senkos as a search bait, hmmmm. Typically I think of using fast moving baits to search, and when fish are found start working slower presentatioins. Hey, whatever works for you.

jb_adams reply :

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the senko is one of my favorite baits and i often succumb to overusing it, but i actively try to use different lures, jigs, cranks, spinnerbaits, c-rig. it just seems like i always have trouble catching fish using the other ways, and as soon as i switch back to the senko, i get several bites. maybe this is just a confidence issue, but i try hard to use the other baits.

I think the reason you're catching more fish is because you have a slow presentation which will produce a strike when other baits won't (so I'm told).

Just curious, how do you rig your senko, wacky, weightless, T-rig??

abelfisher reply :

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Using senkos as a search bait, hmmmm. Typically I think of using fast moving baits to search, and when fish are found start working slower presentatioins. Hey, whatever works for you.

I understand. My thinking is with all this talk about the success with Senkos when nothing else works, then why not start with a Senko, then when fish are found switch off.

directlink reply :

I was also a senko addict. :-[ Not any more though, but my friend is a senlo only and nothing else user. It drives me crazy!

George Welcome reply :

Yep, some real sound advice given in this thread - some real logical thinking and statements being made. Change a bait if it is working for something else: makes a lot of sense.

If you get on fish, and the bait you are using is producing the fish you want, to change to another bait just for the sake of doing it is insane. Anyone that suggests such a switch in the name of versatility has no clue what they are talking about. You change a bait when you aren't getting the results that you want, not when everything is going well.

One of the given facts about fishing: everyone knows more that the next and you know more than them all. If someone is fishing with you and you are catching but they aren't, simply keep showing them your fish. If they don't switch to your bait than they are not too bright. However, bass being the ornery critters that they are, just as the switch is made, the bite stops.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Sorry GW but I strongly disagree.

Some folks aren't happy with just catching fish today. We want to expand our horizons to make us better anglers for tomorrow. Learning confidence in a bait is a key to that bait being successful.

To gain confidence, it helps to know that they are least catchable. Senkos can show youthat they are

A. there

B. willing to eat

so this is a good time to change up baits and try somthing you have been wanting to learn, making you that much more capable of figuring out the bite when it's not right there in front of your face.

In your case, I can see your point. You have people with you who are paying to catch fish. Of course I would never expect you to tell them to change a bait that is working but we aren't talking about a guiding situation. This is more about making yourself a better angler, yes, in the name of or by way of,...diversity and versatility.

For example so when the next time you are out with a client and senkos aren't working, what do you do? Go get shiners? Not me.

I don't neccessarily need it to be as "easy" as possible. With no challenge, there's no drive to learn. Learning is what keeps me here. If I went to the lake and caught 200 bass every day,I would lose interest.

Fish4FunInFl reply :

I will admit that I am a SENKO-HOLIC. ;D ( *** )

I always have one rigged on a pole ( But I can leave it alone if need be. )

Case in point, Our last club tournament, I KNEW what the bass was hitting on from my boater partner who had pre-fished the lake a few times ( East Lake Toho ) But did that stop me from haveing a Senko type bait on ? NOOOOOO. But I only threw it maybe 15 minutes the whole day. Landed 1 on it also. And that came from a different area then we had been fishing .

Maybe im not as much of a SENKO - HOLIC as I first thought I was, if im able to put it down. ....... Naaaa, I got to be a SENKO - HOLIC

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Another *** user, gotta love that value!!

Fish4FunInFl reply :

LBH... 50 for $ 10 , and they work !!! Cant beat that deal anywhere ( That I know of )

George Welcome reply :

roadwarrior reply :

What George said...

roadwarrior reply :

Hmm...

Versatility? So I'll try to catch bass on something else when I already know what works.

I fish lots of lures and use different "techniques" for fun. Yep, I'm not a tournament fisherman so I have that option. I fish a lot of the same water so "versatility" isn't really all that important to catch fish, but I want to be like them! I enjoy using various equipment and fishing a variety of lures, but if comes down to actually catching bass, I know EXACTLY what works for me and it works ALL of the time.

Live bait, OOPS!

All right, soft plastics...Yep, Senko #1...Fat Ika #1...El Gordo #1...it just depends on the day and the profile/ action the bass like that particular day. Here in the Mid South, that's year around. I guess I'm more like George Welcome, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

galv reply :

my opinion, some of the senko craze was caused by people's eyes just being opened to plastic worms. yeah it's neat to have 400 different lures with all types of spinners, rattlers, 19 treble hooks, but you really don't need all that. the senko is a great bait, but not a miracle bait

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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Hmm...
Versatility? So I'll try to catch bass on something else when I already know what works.

Yup,...have confidence in yourself as well as your bait.

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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

But don't you think it's good to learn how to fix it now so when it breaks, you're not up sh*ts creek w/o a paddle? Or should I say,..."without any shiners?"

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but personally if I followed your advice, I would still be twitching a 3" perch rapala around the weed edges. Why? Because that "worked". This produced tons of fish for me thru the years but I want bigger and better fish so I learn,adapt and try new things. With this thought process, my catches have increased dramatically in size. (numbers are down now but quality is up.) I would have never made this step to the next level if I didn't fix what wasn't broken.

Just my .02

All opinions are appreciated here, as you can see, a few of us disagree but I will always have lots of respect for the folks that disagree with me. It's an American thing

roadwarrior reply :

Russ,

Just wanted to keep things stirred up.

galv,

What's a miracle bait? Maybe something that works everywhere, all the time and can be fished by anybody with any level of skill and still catch fish?

Oh! That's a Fat Ika.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

RW- sure, sure,lol.

Keep stirring,....more opinions only makes this more of a resource.

telecaster reply :

I tried to stay away from THEM, Used some gateway plastics from time to time(HotRods,Ballbreakers,etc).Then on a recent trip to the Bass shop,I was drawn to a display with Senko seconds 5.19 per bag. Immediatly I made the purchase and drove to the nearest pond. Well,I guess I dont have to go into what happened after that... I feel ashamed :-[ Tried to go cold turkey yesterday,used all my old favorites,with limited success,then there they were,there in the side pocket of my bag.I tied one on and bang my biggest bass so far this year. Is there any hope for me? :-?

jb_adams reply :

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I tried to stay away from THEM, Used some gateway plastics from time to time(HotRods,Ballbreakers,etc).Then on a recent trip to the Bass shop,I was drawn to a display with Senko seconds 5.19 per bag. Immediatly I made the purchase and drove to the nearest pond. Well,I guess I dont have to go into what happened after that... I feel ashamed :-[ Tried to go cold turkey yesterday,used all my old favorites,with limited success,then there they were,there in the side pocket of my bag.I tied one on and bang my biggest bass so far this year. Is there any hope for me? :-?

Yep, you're a senko addict!

Captain Cali reply :

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What's a miracle bait? Maybe something that works everywhere, all the time and can be fished by anybody with any level of skill and still catch fish?
Oh! That's a Fat Ika.

Or...live bait. You did say BAIT this time and not LURE.

RoLo reply :

I'm sure that most of the statements made in this thread are accurate and true,

but I think the application of knowledge can vary a lot depending on the "intent of the angler".

In keeping with the spirit of this topic, I'd like to describe one of my favorite fishing habits,

and one of the main reasons I go fishing.

When my wife & I begin fishing in the morning, I'll always ask her what lure she intends to fish,

and then I'll intentionally choose something different. This has been a ritual now for several decades.

If I'm dead set on the same lure that Lois wants to fish, I will at least choose a different color.

If we spent our fishing time casting the same lures and same colors,

the big button marked "Learning Experience" would be in the OFF position.

We all catch bass more often than we learn something new, for this reason, experimenting and learning

is just as much fun to me as catching bass.

I take it a step further

If a given lure or color is the clear winner on my boat, I will deliberately switch away

from that lure or color to confirm that it's indeed responsible for the difference in action,

and not mere chance. In my opinion, an angler should never tout a given lure or color

if that's the only lure being used. The success of a lure or color can only be confirmed

by the failure of another lure during the same time frame.

Roger

K_Mac reply :

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I would say that most of the statements made in this thread are accurate and true,

but I think the application of knowledge can vary a lot depending on the "intent of the angler".

In keeping with the spirit of this topic, I'd like to describe one of my favorite fishing habits,

and one of the main reasons I go fishing.

When my wife & I begin fishing in the morning, I'll always ask her what lure she intends to fish,

and then I'll intentionally choose something different. This has been a ritual now for several decades.

If I'm dead set on the same lure that Lois wants to fish, I will at least choose a different color.

If we spent our fishing time casting the same lures and same colors,

the big button marked "Learning Experience" would be in the OFF position.

I catch bass more often than I learn something new, for this reason, learning to me

is just as much fun as catching bass.

I take it a step further

If a given lure or color is the clear winner on my boat, I will deliberately switch away

from that lure or color to confirm that it's indeed responsible for the difference in action,

and not mere chance. In my opinion, an angler should never tout a given lure or color

based only on its success. The success of a lure or color can only be confirmed

by the failure of another lure or color.

Roger

Nice post Roger. It clearly makes the case for not becoming too comfortable with one lure or technique. I like the point you make about the fun of learning something new. I like catching bass as much as the next guy, but it is only part of the fishing experience.

roadwarrior reply :

Well, I hadn't used a soft plastic in five days, but this morning I only caught three little bass on topwater. After running some errands I went back to the pond around 11:30 and fished a 6" Senko. Yep, the chronic disease has flared up again.

I try to understand why people complain about the durability of GYCB soft plastics, I went through three on six fish in an hour and a half. Two of the three baits were lost on single fish. However, the first bass was a monster and the next two were 6-7 lbs., total estimated weight ~25 lbs.

I am going to keep fighting Senkonlylimitativsm. I'm going to focus on diversity and fish Fat Ika and Gitzits more often.

George Welcome reply :

1101 bass during May - we caught them on two baits - Chug Bugs and Senkos

It was a mistake - lack of versatility

6700 acre lake - caught all the fish out of a five acre area - probably should have run and gunned the lake and used some spinner baits - jigs - drop shot - hard jerk baits so that we wouldn't have gotten so bored.

I'm sorry, but the name of this game is fishing(supposedly converting to catching), not casting. If the bait you are using is producing and producing well than you have the right pattern and bait. Of course, if in the same area they will hit a trap or spinner bait as well, then it would be foolish to waste the Senkos.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

But not neccessarily the "ONLY" bait. Let's say that at $7 a bag,you run out of senkos? You don't honestly go home do you?

Man,I'm such a punk with this "last word" stuff,lol.

I see your point GW, don't doubt that. It's just not the "ONLY" point being made. There's more than 1 way to skin a cat. If you're into cat-skinning, why not learn as many of the ways to do it that you can?

RW- The fat ika was my good friend today non-stop action with a spawning 5 in the mix

George Welcome reply :

Knew that would grab you outta the woodwork - I gave up cat skinning cause they bite.

Learning the mechanics, both with equipment, (tackle) and bait usage is integral to this whole catching game. Obviously, there is a right tool for any job.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Always a right tool for the job. Sometimes 2 or 3 even.

Exactly but you can get a nut off with a ratchet or a wrench. If you have both, shouldn't you know how to use both of them? If not, hope you never lose your wrenches!lol

Your turn Captain.

George Welcome reply :

You can remove a nut with a ratchet if there is the room to do so, but you can always get the nut off with a wrench. Off course if nothing else will do you can always remove the nut with a straightjacket.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

LMAO!!

I concede.

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