Have You Ever Been Confronted While Fishing By... 2024
aquaholic reply :
an animal rights activist? Today i was reading the peta site for some laughs and i ran across this.
http://www.banned site/about/why-peta/catch-and-release-fishing.aspx
I know hunters encounter it,but i wondered if you've ever been approached while fishing. I personally never have. But here in the midwest i dont think we have as many vegans/ animal rights activists, although i probably could eat fresh corn every meal.
Felix77 reply :
No but I had a woman call me a murderer. I happened to catch and release a smallmouth not to far from her.
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:27 AM, Felix77 said:No but I had a woman call me a murderer. I happened to catch and release a smallmouth not to far from her.
Yeah, but are you a murderer? That is the real question.
Felix77 reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:42 AM, RoachDad said:Yeah, but are you a murderer? That is the real question.
Only if they are Carolina Panther fans. 
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:47 AM, Felix77 said:Only if they are Carolina Panther fans.
Ouch.
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:23 AM, aquaholic said:an animal rights activist? Today i was reading the peta site for some laughs and i ran across this.
http://www.banned site/about/why-peta/catch-and-release-fishing.aspx
I know hunters encounter it,but i wondered if you've ever been approached while fishing. I personally never have. But here in the midwest i dont think we have as many vegans/ animal rights activists, although i probably could eat fresh corn every meal.
Wow, I did not see much to laugh about there.
aquaholic reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:47 AM, Felix77 said:Only if they are Carolina Panther fans.
You cant hate on panthers fans too much, they have jimmy clausen on their team. Isnt that punishment enough?
How did you handle it when you were called a murderer?
Felix77 reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:53 AM, aquaholic said:You cant hate on panthers fans too much, they have jimmy clausen on their team. Isnt that punishment enough?
How did you handle it when you were called a murderer?
LOL ... Panthers kill ME because on paper they should be more competitive. Let's see what the next season has to bring. I just hope Cam stops crying!
As for the murderer comment ... I essentially ignored it and moved away from the spot. I didn't want to get into a confrontation or debate about fishing with someone hanging out on her deck. I just wanted to fish.
senile1 reply :
I have never been approached while fishing or hunting by an animal rights activist.
On one hand, we can all laugh at some of the extreme views and actions of some PETA members. On the other hand, there is always something to be learned from everyone, even the most unlikely of sources. We should avoid leaving fishing line in our waters and on our shores. We should handle fish with as much care as possible to avoid removing their protective coat. We should try to avoid hooking fish in the gullet. We should limit the amount of time the fish is out of the water. We should respect the resource and many anglers do. Should we stop fishing just because these things happen from time to time? No. It is an imperfect world and sometimes fish will be injured. I don't stop driving just because people are injured in wrecks. If I were approached I would try to find common ground with these responses.
GeorgiaBassBros reply :
Never been confronted by any vegan tree huggin hippies, but to be honest i dont think theres too many down here in georgia
MarkH024 reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:47 AM, Felix77 said:Only if they are Carolina Panther fans.
Wasn't aware they still existed.
Koofy Smacker reply :
Never while fishing although too many times to count I have had people driving down the road flip me the bird while walking into the woods to archery hunt and also in gun season. Several times they scream obsenities also but they never stop. If anything they yell it while they speed up
GoneFishi'n reply :
x2On 7/19/2013 at 3:36 AM, GeorgiaBassBros said:Never been confronted by any vegan tree huggin hippies, but to be honest i dont think theres too many down here in georgia
flyfisher reply :
Never have but I didn't see anything in that article that isn't true and probably all things we have witnessed or done.
We can only do the best we can to keep fish healthy and teach others the same practices if they are unaware.
slonezp reply :
Wait til you have to explain to an adult walking with their children why you are killing gobies and either feeding the gulls or throwing them in the trash. Most of the kids want to help feed the gulls. The adults, not so much.
Curved reply :
These are the same folks that "rescue" cats so they can kill them in an effort to help bird populations. As most sportsman are also conservationists, fishermen are more often than not the people actually making the difference in improving the well-being of fish.
aquaholic reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:41 AM, flyfisher said:Never have but I didn't see anything in that article that isn't true and probably all things we have witnessed or done.
We can only do the best we can to keep fish healthy and teach others the same practices if they are unaware.
Even the first sentence, "catch and release fishing is cruelty disguised as a sport"?
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:58 AM, Felix77 said:LOL ... Panthers kill ME because on paper they should be more competitive. Let's see what the next season has to bring. I just hope Cam stops crying!
As for the murderer comment ... I essentially ignored it and moved away from the spot. I didn't want to get into a confrontation or debate about fishing with someone hanging out on her deck. I just wanted to fish.
Panthers are killing YOU!! Dude, you are a Yankee! The cats are killing us. Every stinking year we look good on paper. Not counting the year after Peppers left. I always think we are going to the conference title, but they always let me down.
I avoid confrontation. Just leave them alone. I've tried to discuss this kind of thing and you are just wasting your breath. Minds are made up and you cannot change them.
But it has never happened while I was fishing.
MCS reply :
That is the dumbest thing I have read. When it said they suffer "physoclogical damage" I knew it was just gonna go down hill from there. As far as feeling pain, I am not 100% sure they know what they are talking about. Bass are cold blooded just like many reptiles, which lose their tails as defense. I think they have feeling but in no way can it be the same as a warm blooded animal much less a human. They just try to give everything human qualities as means of justification and persuation. I also like that they insinuate fishermen leave trash all over the place. Typical AR nut jobs. I seen it too many times, especially with the dogs, they will take a perfectly healthy working animal and add 20 pounds and stick it in a 5x5 kennel only to kill it in a month because the owner had it on a chain, didn't feed it enough, had scars from catching a few pigs. Maybe if they loved human beings as much as they loved animals this world wouldn't be such a cold, hateful and backwards place. I agree there is nothing you can say, just walk away because insanity has no reasoning.
aquaholic reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:52 AM, RoachDad said:Panthers are killing YOU!! Dude, you are a Yankee! The cats are killing us. Every stinking year we look good on paper. Not counting the year after Peppers left. I always think we are going to the conference title, but they always let me down.
I avoid confrontation. Just leave them alone. I've tried to discuss this kind of thing and you are just wasting your breath. Minds are made up and you cannot change them.
But it has never happened while I was fishing.
Trust me i have gone down that road before with deer hunting and i never will again. I am just interested how fisherman/woman are perceived through out the country. To be honest i never gave it any thought before until i read that article. Around here the only thing people ever say to me is to ask me if i caught anything or to tell me spots they have had luck with .
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:11 AM, senile1 said:If I were approached I would try to find common ground with these responses.
You're dreaming my friend, but good luck trying.
Felix77 reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:52 AM, RoachDad said:Panthers are killing YOU!! Dude, you are a Yankee! The cats are killing us. Every stinking year we look good on paper. Not counting the year after Peppers left. I always think we are going to the conference title, but they always let me down.
I avoid confrontation. Just leave them alone. I've tried to discuss this kind of thing and you are just wasting your breath. Minds are made up and you cannot change them.
But it has never happened while I was fishing.
LOL ... I understand. I had my years with the Giants where it was just a joke to watch! I can't complain though. Even with the ups and downs the team always seems to squeeze out a championship every 5 years or so. I have friends who have never seen their team in the SuperBowl let alone win one.
buzzed bait reply :
PERF (people for the ethical reporting of fact)
"Studies show that fish who are caught and then returned to the water suffer such severe physiological stress that they often die of shock" Often? how about sometimes or even rarely? see how one subtle word change makes a world of difference?
"In commercial fishing, fish's swim bladders can rupture because of the sudden change in pressure." Thanks for the intermixing of types of fishing, is this about the dangers of harvesting AKA commercial fishing or catch and release?
"Every year, anglers leave behind a trail of tackle victims that includes millions of birds, turtles, and other animals who suffer debilitating injuries after they swallow fishhooks or become entangled in fishing line. Wildlife rehabilitators say that discarded fishing tackle is one of the greatest threats to aquatic animals.
Fishing is far from a harmless pastime. Please encourage anglers to ditch their poles and try alternative activities, such as hiking, camping, and canoeing." While I won't disagree about the need to clean up after ourselves I have to laugh at the suggested activities over fishing. I love to camp myself, but how many times have you seen someone leave a campsite a MISERABLE disaster? Often times some of these same environmental activist types..... I'm pretty sure our human developments i.e. pollution, erosion, etc are far more harmful
I just wish we were in more of a partnership with groups like this to work toward conservation rather than the bi-polar one side or the other.... left or right, blue or red, whatever......
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 4:14 AM, Felix77 said:LOL ... I understand. I had my years with the Giants where it was just a joke to watch! I can't complain though. Even with the ups and downs the team always seems to squeeze out a championship every 5 years or so. I have friends who have never seen their team in the SuperBowl let alone win one.
Apologies for getting off topic.
Yeah, we had our chance against the Patriots and missed 2 easy field goals. One would have won the game. Then we missed another in OT.
We were so happy to get Cam, but old #1 better show some stones and hide some of the dancing and get some work done this year. People are sick of hearing about how good he is and then listening to his whining.
senile1 reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 4:07 AM, RoachDad said:You're dreaming my friend, but good luck trying.
I'm not dreaming at all. If I were approached by 100 PETA members and my comments only got through to one person it would be worth it. We win the battle by changing hearts and minds. It's much easier to get someone to understand your point of view if you can find a reason to respect them. I think we can find something to respect in most people we disagree with, except for those psychopaths and sociopaths we occasionally encounter.
flyfisher reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 4:07 AM, RoachDad said:You're dreaming my friend, but good luck trying.
And this is exactly why people are at odds with each other. An attitude where only your way is right and there is no way any truth can be elsewhere.
I am always willing to listen to other arguments and have even changed my stance on things which I feel makes me a better person
Nice_Bass reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:52 AM, RoachDad said:Panthers are killing YOU!! Dude, you are a Yankee! The cats are killing us. Every stinking year we look good on paper. Not counting the year after Peppers left. I always think we are going to the conference title, but they always let me down.
I avoid confrontation. Just leave them alone. I've tried to discuss this kind of thing and you are just wasting your breath. Minds are made up and you cannot change them.
But it has never happened while I was fishing.
Thanks for that by the way
Sincerely,
Me, and every other Bears fan out there.
roadwarrior reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:52 AM, RoachDad said:I avoid confrontation. Just leave them alone. I've tried to discuss this kind of thing and you are just wasting your breath.
Minds are made up and you cannot change them.
But it has never happened while I was fishing.
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 5:01 AM, Nice_Bass said:Thanks for that by the way
Sincerely,
Me, and every other Bears fan out there.
I believe that was my worst day as a Panther's fan. We all truly hoped he was trying to get more money. We started out as a Defense first time and a grind it out Offense. Loved it. But after we lost Peppers we also had injuries all through our Defense. Man, that was a terrible year.
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 4:49 AM, senile1 said:
I'm not dreaming at all. If I were approached by 100 PETA members and my comments only got through to one person it would be worth it. We win the battle by changing hearts and minds. It's much easier to get someone to understand your point of view if you can find a reason to respect them. I think we can find something to respect in most people we disagree with, except for those psychopaths and sociopaths we occasionally encounter.
All right, I can tell you are sincere so i will leave you alone. I used to talk to true believers but it is a waste of time. You will not turn even one.
If I find someone looking for the truth, fine, I'll talk all day, but if they have made up their minds, it is a waste of time, in my opinion.
RoachDad reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 4:54 AM, flyfisher said:And this is exactly why people are at odds with each other. An attitude where only your way is right and there is no way any truth can be elsewhere.
I am always willing to listen to other arguments and have even changed my stance on things which I feel makes me a better person
Ok, I could go lots of ways with this but I can't imagine why the fact that you changed your mind makes you a better person. But most people think they are a better person all the time.
Changing your mind or stance is just being normal.
flyfisher reply :
You are assuming that what you say is the truth....anyways it really doesn't matter because like has been said 99% aren't willing to listen to another side as their minds are made up
AndyTN reply :
The only liberal/peta member that I would run into where I live would be too worried about banjo music and looking for the interstate signs.
nascar2428 reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 6:04 AM, AndyTN said:The only liberal/peta member that I would run into where I live would be too worried about banjo music and looking for the interstate signs.
This made my day!!
FishinDaddy reply :
Luckily I live in Polk County Fl.
The Largest county in Florida.
It has has the most lakes, over 150.
We drive biggest trucks and have bright red necks.
We mind our own business and don't tell you how to lead your life.
If we have many of those people around, they are at least smart enough to keep their mouth shut.
Bassguytom reply :
I guess I should stop fishing in my fox hunting attire on my way to the hunt with the beagles. They might say something to me for sure. Just kidding I really hunt elephants and Rinos for their ivory, bear for their gallbladder and sharks for their fins only. Do you think any of these folks are actively cleaning our water ways and creating artificial reefs off the coast and habbitat structure in lakes and testing water quality in our water ways? Do you think they know that I do all of that? Or do they only see what they want to see or are one sided with their cause. Open minds opens doors. This has never happened to me but if it did I would just smile and walk away.
MrPeanut reply :
I think it depends on the person who you are speaking with it comes to groups such as PETA. A large chunk of them will not listen to a word anybody is saying, almost as if everybody is evil for walking on the animal's earth. However there's also a large chunk that would be more than willing to listen to a fisherman's point of view and discuss/learn how the average fisherman loves to help the environment as well, considering if we don't we won't have anywhere to fish
Most people's opinions can only be based on who they've met that has the opposite point of view. I"m sure there's a fair share of fisherman who aren't ethical or who litter, etc. but that is clearly not the standard everybody sticks by.
On the same note, I'm sure there's a % of PETA members who truthfully do help a lot with different charities, etc involving helping animals/environment...but PETA also is statistically one of the biggest kill shelters in all of America for rescued pets. I also have a co worker who is an avid PETA member but routinely eats KFC chicken and cheeseburgers at lunch, while talking about protesting zoos. That I will never understand, ever. 
moral of the story, in my head, is if they're willing to discuss, that's awesome and I share the thought of we can all learn from each other. But if they're not wiling to listen and are being hostile, then just separate yourself from them before it gets out of hand.
K_Mac reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 10:54 AM, MrPeanut said:...moral of the story, in my head, is if they're willing to discuss, that's awesome and I share the thought of we can all learn from each other. But if they're not wiling to listen and are being hostile, then just separate yourself from them before it gets out of hand.
I have never been confronted while fishing, but I have had several conversations with those who believe catch and release is a barbaric practice that should be illegal. I think the above comment sums up my view very well.
aquaholic reply :
I guess i've been living in a fantasy world i was honestly surprised to hear that anybody had an issue with fishing.
---=Martin=--- reply :
Not too get too deep into politics, ethics, and a danger of getting suspended from this website, so I'll just say this...
...most of those idiots have absolutely no problem with killing of unborn human babies, and therefore they are clueless hypocrites and I can never take them seriously.
bigbill reply :
I haven't been approached by the anti's yet when hunting or fishing. I do not hunt in my home state it's not
safe too many guys with guns think it's a time to shoot at the forest instead of going to the range. Being an ex logger I was never in the woods during hunting season on Saturdays it's not safe.
Hunting in Vermont I have the highest respect for the green mountain boys and they respect me once they find out I'm a logger too. There kind of tight lipped at first. I feel safe with these guys too. I leave the forest the way I find it. I find its those out of staters who leave there garbage behind them. Who do they think is going to pick it up?
Fishing before first light till 9am I never see anyone. But in some areas of the lakes I find the shore fisherman's garbage that's left behind. Like coffee cups, sandwich wrappers and empty worm containers.
This garbage left on the banks and In the forest gives our sports a bad rap.
My point is let's not give the anti' s more problems that are caused by a few of us to use against us all. Take your garbage out with you when we leave it's that simple.
Scorcher214 reply :
My mom......She loved animals, had a bunch of rabbits. Every so often she would kinda ask me how I can put a hook through a fish, take it out of the water so it cant breath, then put it back. I was like....."It's fun..." She also asked if I would ever do hunting. To which I replied, yes. I've never been because i don't have anybody to take me, and i feel like hunting isn't something you just try out on your own.
Another thing....us dedicated fisherman are bigger tree hugers or environmentalists than most people. I clean up trash, scold my friends when they litter, and I just love nature in general. It takes care of me so I take care of it.
tomustang reply :
Never on or at the water. I had (yes past tense) at family member who was fanatical about PETA. Going to meets, getting the videos, the whole nine. Hypocrite. Ate gummies (cow bone), owned a bunch of animals (not animal liberation), used products tested on animals, sabatoging/destructing others properties for their own agenda, etc.
You can't reason with these people, they are terrorists.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Have you ever heard of a PETA member being physically assaulted (in self defense 
) in south central PA?
I've never heard of one so they must not approach too many of us here.
bluezed reply :
I wouldn't mind being confronted by certain PETA representatives... like Eva Mendes or Alicia Silverstone.
Felix77 reply :
On 7/20/2013 at 2:44 AM, bluezed said:I wouldn't mind being confronted by certain PETA representatives... like Eva Mendes or Alicia Silverstone.
If you need backup i'm there brother! Eva ... The future ex-wife of my dreams!
Bluebasser86 reply :
In Kansas it's illegal to harass or interfere with someone engaged in lawful hunting, fishing, or trapping. If I ever get bothered by a PETA member I'll be on the phone with the local PD and maybe a lawyer to deal with my "psychologic damage" they've caused me. 
Sam reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 3:57 AM, MCS said:That is the dumbest thing I have read. When it said they suffer "physoclogical damage" I knew it was just gonna go down hill from there. As far as feeling pain, I am not 100% sure they know what they are talking about. Bass are cold blooded just like many reptiles, which lose their tails as defense. I think they have feeling but in no way can it be the same as a warm blooded animal much less a human. They just try to give everything human qualities as means of justification and persuation. I also like that they insinuate fishermen leave trash all over the place. Typical AR nut jobs. I seen it too many times, especially with the dogs, they will take a perfectly healthy working animal and add 20 pounds and stick it in a 5x5 kennel only to kill it in a month because the owner had it on a chain, didn't feed it enough, had scars from catching a few pigs. Maybe if they loved human beings as much as they loved animals this world wouldn't be such a cold, hateful and backwards place. I agree there is nothing you can say, just walk away because insanity has no reasoning.
Bass do not have a cortex and therefore they feel pressure, not pain as we feel it.
At least that is what the research says.
derekxec reply :
On 7/19/2013 at 2:27 AM, Felix77 said:No but I had a woman call me a murderer. I happened to catch and release a smallmouth not to far from her.
should have looked at her and given her the crazy eyes lol
here they lay in the street dressed as fish and pretend to be dead blocking the road lol clowns
Brian Needham reply :
yall should really get your meat from a source where no animals have to die, the grocery store.....
Jolly Green reply :
The article cited physiological damage, not psychological damage, but just in case I always talk a fish through the unhooking and photographing, e.g., "Hey, buddy! Whadja get there? A fluke? Was it good? Yeah? Hey, great job hammerin' that thing, buddy, seriously. Well done. Later, tater!" If they are as fair-minded as I am, they're telling their shrink, "Yeah, the whole thing kind of sucked but the guy was cool about it and this hole in my face has been a great ice-breaker at parties..."
I don't know all the facts, and I don't know that I believe anyone who claims to know all the facts, but my gut says that an animal that can eat a live crawdad does not experience pain in anywhere near the same way that I do.
basstrackin reply :
This thread is great, I like to wear my PETA shirt while fishing , hunting and grocery shopping. The definition under the heading is .. People Eating Tasty Animals!!
buzzfrog reply :
never by PETA, but one place I go there is always 2 old guys walking a dog and telling me about God, I am a Christian so I sometimes talk back, BUT they always lead with the same phrase.. "when I was young out here laying out on the lake sinning without the Lord" when did fishing become a sin, I have never once "layed" on the lake ??
Brian Needham reply :
On 7/20/2013 at 11:55 PM, buzzfrog said:never by PETA, but one place I go there is always 2 old guys walking a dog and telling me about God, I am a Christian so I sometimes talk back, BUT they always lead with the same phrase.. "when I was young out here laying out on the lake sinning without the Lord" when did fishing become a sin, I have never once "layed" on the lake ??
reminds me one time when I was on Beale Street ....... guy walks up to me and says "young man you're going to Hell!"
I say, " No sir, I am going to BB Kings...!"
Fishing Rhino reply :
No, I haven't.
buzzfrog reply :
Lol Brian
prjavelin reply :
here is the other way around. Im the crazy out of this world environmentalist that has spent a ton of money on equipment just to release the fish. I hate fishing around people. I avoid them, it sucks when they are in one of the best spots of the lake spooking the bass.
aquaholic reply :
On 7/20/2013 at 10:44 PM, derekxec said:should have looked at her and given her the crazy eyes lol
here they lay in the street dressed as fish and pretend to be dead blocking the road lol clowns
Haha i would just do what i do when the geese are sitting in the middle of the road, keep moving, they get out of the way pretty fast.
bigbill reply :
I'm not that hot headed but my older brother was really bad. He could press with one arm from the floor 175lbs. To the ceiling. Thank God we never ran into the People Eating Tastey Animals I do not know
what he would of done. He was like a human pit bull but the nicest guy you'd ever meet just don't make him mad. He was my mentor in taking me fishing and hunting. He also taught me about sportsmanship ethics too, we don't shoot game birds on the ground they have to be in the air that's a fair game. If we miss they live. He passed away and now I'm left with my son's. It's almost there turn now to carry the family torch in outdoor sports.
slonezp reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 3:21 AM, prjavelin said:here is the other way around. Im the crazy out of this world environmentalist that has spent a ton of money on equipment just to release the fish. I hate fishing around people. I avoid them, it sucks when they are in one of the best spots of the lake spooking the bass.
It's not the other way around. Most fishermen and hunters do more for the environment than members of any environmentalist group.
WRB reply :
We are being assaulted everyday by regulations. In California the DFG department of fish and game has been changed to DFW department of fish and wildlife, the word game indicated the aminal could be killed.
The radical environmentalist win arguments by putting their money where it counts; by electing government representaitives and regulatory appointees into controlling what sportsmen and women can do or can't do as they see fit. We have lost a lot outdoor public areas to closed areas for hunting or fishing.
PETA is simply one of several groups that have pooled their resources to achieve their goals without confronting recreational individuals or groups.....and they are winning!
Tom
aquaholic reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 8:20 AM, WRB said:We are being assaulted everyday by regulations. In California the DFG department of fish and game has been changed to DFW department of fish and wildlife, the word game indicated the aminal could be killed.
The radical environmentalist win arguments is by putting their money where it counts by electing government representaitives and regulatory appointees into controlling what sportsmen and women can do or can't do as they see fit. We have lost a lot outdoor public areas to closed areas for hunting or fishing.
PETA is simply one of several groups that have pooled their resources to achieve their goals without confronting recreational individuals or groups.....and they are winning!
Tom
I figured someone from cali might chime in, since its seems every fishing item i buy has been known to cause cancer in the state of california. lol
tomustang reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 8:48 AM, aquaholic said:I figured someone from cali might chime in, since its seems every fishing item i buy has been known to cause cancer in the state of california. lol
Not just fishing gear, d**n near everything has the prop 65 warning. You should see the cars with the 6" sticker on the drivers window.
sizzlefry reply :
I quote the bible where God sais we have domain over all the animals on earth. If they believe in God they cant say much more for its Gods word and command. If they are evolutionist then there argument is mute because survival of the fittest right or only the strong survive which is the core belief of evolution. that puts humans on the top of the food chain in that belief.
Downeaster2010 reply :
Tell her, that generally after you murder them you also eat them.
Bankbeater reply :
Nope, never have.
bigbill reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 8:18 AM, slonezp said:It's not the other way around. Most fishermen and hunters do more for the environment than members of any environmentalist group.
I pick up garbage on the shore, extra fishing line that's on the shore. Garbage left in the woods and abandoned pets too.
I suggest catch & release when they can get help with food stamps if they apply for them.
I see people taking 2" sunfish to eat.
Avalonjohn44 reply :
Have never seen one while fishing, hopefully I won't ever. I have seen Peta-type protesters at the local KFC, although in rural VA they are (so far) pretty meek and mostly polite. I have joked about buying them a bucket of chicken, but my wife said it would be a waste of money.
flippin and pitchin reply :
Equal treatment of animals. Okay....deep fry everything.
KMS64 reply :
In South Georgia ... not likely! The stereotypical "redneck" has a pickup, lots of guns and very little patience for animal rights nuts.
slonezp reply :
On 7/22/2013 at 3:12 AM, flippin and pitchin said:Equal treatment of animals. Okay....deep fry everything.
I disagree. There is a place and a time for smoked or grilled as well.
Diggy reply :
I caught a 3.5lb bass and this lady was screaming you're going to kill it, its out of the water. At the same time I was about to release it, a guy drives by yelling, nooooooooooo dont put it back yet, I want to see the fish. It was hilarious, she got mad and slammed her sliding door shut.
The guy then showed me some huge bass he caught on bluegills and bream. 7 and 10lbs in weight as well as a huge snook.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 9:27 AM, sizzlefry said:I quote the bible where God sais we have domain over all the animals on earth. If they believe in God they cant say much more for its Gods word and command. If they are evolutionist then there argument is mute because survival of the fittest right or only the strong survive which is the core belief of evolution. that puts humans on the top of the food chain in that belief.
Let's keep the bible out of this, as long as the post wasn't deleted I'll just say this. The Old Testament prohibits the unnecessary suffering to animals and animals can be used for legitimate needs like food and clothing, animals must be slaughtered in a humane way. These are very old laws, but they are in the bible. I do apologize for the TOS violation, but it's quite clear in the O.T.
Fish Chris reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 8:20 AM, WRB said:We are being assaulted everyday by regulations. In California the DFG department of fish and game has been changed to DFW department of fish and wildlife, the word game indicated the aminal could be killed.
The radical environmentalist win arguments by putting their money where it counts; by electing government representaitives and regulatory appointees into controlling what sportsmen and women can do or can't do as they see fit. We have lost a lot outdoor public areas to closed areas for hunting or fishing.
PETA is simply one of several groups that have pooled their resources to achieve their goals without confronting recreational individuals or groups.....and they are winning!
Tom
Tom, you are exactly right. This is just another reason that sportfishing will be gone in 20 or 30 more years (except maybe on private lands) even IF we (humans) haven't wiped ourselves out yet.
Fish
SuskyDude reply :
On 7/21/2013 at 9:27 AM, sizzlefry said:I quote the bible where God sais we have domain over all the animals on earth. If they believe in God they cant say much more for its Gods word and command. If they are evolutionist then there argument is mute because survival of the fittest right or only the strong survive which is the core belief of evolution. that puts humans on the top of the food chain in that belief.
"Survival of the fittest" refers to an organisms ability to procreate and pass its genes into the next generation. It has nothing to do with who is physically stronger, or who is on top of the food chain. "Fitness," in an evolutionary sense, refers to an organisms reproduction rate. If environmental pressures allow an organism with a unique genetic trait to reproduce more often/successfully/etc. than other members of its species, then this organism is considered to be more "fit." And because this trait gives the organism greater reproductive ability, the trait will be passed on to future generations more frequently and will become more widspread throughout the population. So what I'm trying to say is that a fish (or a bird, or a tree or an ameoba) can be just as "fit" as a human,
Sorry, I had to be that guy.
Oh, and PETA sucks!
FrogFreak reply :
I thought PETA was just a bunch of freaks until I met a PETA person that actually wasn't a nut case. This person was against people being cruel to animals but also seemed to understand the recreational angler and hunter. I think any group is unfortunately defined by the vocal folks that get the most attention. I don't feel fishing is cruel but I do know that there are anglers out there that are less than ethical and couldn't care less about the sport and the true spirit of the pursuit. Most folks I want to hunt and fish with revere the animals we are pursuing. This is a spiritual thing to me. We eat what we kill. We handle the fish with care. We hone our craft so we don't gut hook fish. We pick up after ourselves and make sure we leave nature better than we found it etc. etc.
My point here is no matter which group you belong to here, there are some crazy idiots in your camp. I'm not sure we should judge all PETA folks the same just like I hope they don't judge all anglers by the stupidity of a few.
aquaholic reply :
On 7/23/2013 at 11:04 PM, FrogFreak said:I thought PETA was just a bunch of freaks until I met a PETA person that actually wasn't a nut case. This person was against people being cruel to animals but also seemed to understand the recreational angler and hunter. I think any group is unfortunately defined by the vocal folks that get the most attention. I don't feel fishing is cruel but I do know that there are anglers out there that are less than ethical and couldn't care less about the sport and the true spirit of the pursuit. Most folks I want to hunt and fish with revere the animals we are pursuing. This is a spiritual thing to me. We eat what we kill. We handle the fish with care. We hone our craft so we don't gut hook fish. We pick up after ourselves and make sure we leave nature better than we found it etc. etc.
My point here is no matter which group you belong to here, there are some crazy idiots in your camp. I'm not sure we should judge all PETA folks the same just like I hope they don't judge all anglers by the stupidity of a few.
The only issue is that the general message peta is putting out there is that fishing is bad. Sure some of the peta members maybe dont think that, but the organization still believes it. Im not judging based on a few bad apples but rather what the organization it self officially stands for.
Brian Needham reply :
On 7/23/2013 at 11:04 PM, FrogFreak said:I thought PETA was just a bunch of freaks until I met a PETA person that actually wasn't a nut case. This person was against people being cruel to animals but also seemed to understand the recreational angler and hunter.
exception not the rule.........of course the same can be said for anyone, liberal, right winger, planned parenthood, heritage foundation, or anything that has more than 3 members, LOL.
00 mod reply :
OK.........everyone has opinions. After reading through this thread, it appears everyone has expressed them. We need to just move on!
Jeff
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