Disrespectful People 2024
Slipknot_Fan666 reply :
I seen a post on here a week or two ago and have been thinking about it quite a bit. I don't own a boat, nor will I ever have enough money to own one, but the boat fisherman get ticked off if someone doesn't want them skipping jigs at or near their dock. It's their dock, they use it, their boat is in it. If they don't want you casting near it, don't get all ticked off and rant on these forums (I know, I'm doing the same and being hypocritical). The way I see it, is you put your $50K+ bass boat out there and let multiple fisherman of varying skill levels cast all sorts of lures at it and next to it. Sure, some of you may be great at casting, but there are people who will try to do the same as you and not be as accurate and end up pegging the hell out of someone's boat without saying anything. I know you're all probably going to say "it won't hurt the boat," but I don't think you're going to let me throw stuff at your car even if I believe it won't hurt it. Anyways, be respectful to people and their property. If they don't want you fishing near their stuff, then move along.
SirSnookalot reply :
Homeowners don't own the water, but I do believe common courtesy should trump the law in some cases. Rather than being an annoyance to some one I'd move on.
Where I fish the law states a boat must be 500 feet from a pier, but I fish off a jettie and it's legal for boats to pull alongside. The boaters do get in the way of the jettie fishermen while they are throwing their cast nets, few show little courtesy. Legally there is nothing that can be done, no question that the boaters do look down upon the bank fishermen. When I go on my boat I make point of never being within casting range.
papajoe222 reply :
I think most of the members here would practice common courtesy when dock fishing, but I also believe that if my skill level plays a part in making the decision to fish or not fish docks with the owners boat moored. I don't leave my boat in the water dockside for any length of time, especially during mid-day hours because I know other anglers will attempt to fish there and my boat is aluminum. If I had a boat or dock that I wanted to discourage anglers from casting to, at the very least I would put a sign similar to'; I don't skip rocks under your car, please don't skip lures under my boat. The problem gets intensified when two 'alpha males' (dock owner and fisherman) butt heads over who is right or wrong. A dock with a sign that says 'NO FISING; or a dock with some sort of deterent can be ignored by anglers, or respected. I choose to do the latter.
slonezp reply :
If you don't want fishermen pitching your dock, wrap chicken wire around the bottom of it.
crazyjoeclemens reply :
This is a common courtesy issue, to me. If I wanna fish a dock, I'm gonna fish it, but I know my casting accuracy ain't that great so I'm not gonna fish all that close to someone's nice shiny boat. On the flip side, if my boat is in the dock, feel free to fish under it. I just ask the same level of courtesy - if you suck at casting as bad as I do, don't throw so close.
When it comes to 'no fishing' signs and anti-fishing devices, I might give a little extra space around them, but not much. However, the one thing I won't do is engage in a confrontation over it. If the boat owner is there and wants to raise a stink about it, I'm just gonna cruise on by. I go fishing to relax and having an argument over a few lousy square feet of water doesn't fit into that program for me, regardless of who's right or wrong.
As for shore fishermen, I give them a wide berth. I fish from shore on occasion, and it was my only option before I had a boat. When I'm boating I have access to many acres of water that they don't, so I see no reason to crowd them whatsoever.
flyfisher reply :
I haven't run into any problems fishing docks but that may also be because i am in a kayak and i don't think people feel as intimidated, not sure though. Common courtesy rules here and if someone is upset you move on and make it easy on everyone. We used to have people on our street growing up that didn't like us playing stickball in front of their house. Technically we were allowed to play wherever we wanted but we moved to save the hassle.
mmrivera86 reply :
I had no idea this was such a huge topic. In my opinion it would def be common courtesy to not fish near someone's boat if your aim isn't that good. Even still, if my aim was pin point, and someone requested that I not fish his docks, I would comply. I'm sure there are other docks to fish, so no point on arguing about one.
Fishes in trees reply :
Demonic Forrest - son, according to your profile, you are 19 years old and yet you can see into the future so precisely to know that you will never own a boat. I wish I had such a clarity of vision when I was 19. Of course, saying you are never going to own a boat is an easy prophecy to fulfill - all you got to do is never buy one - it really doesn't have anything to do with how much money you might or might not make in the future.
So much for the rant - buy it was only one paragraph, on to the topic. In my opinion, dock owners don't own the water, just that simple, in Missouri anyhow, in the Corps of Engineers lakes, the corps is doing them a favor issuing a permit to let them h ave a dock on the water. I'm not sure exactly how it works on LOZ, which is basically a power plant lake. Who knows how many docks there are on LOZ - dozens of thousands, certainly.
For the most part, I deal with this issue by fishing on lakes that don't have docks.
jacktgi@aol.com reply :
I think you should consider whether the dock might be used for swimming. Hooks and lures snagged and lost against dock pilings can be a dangerous hazard for swimmers, especially children.
Jack
Bluegiller reply :
i have hooked my own boat so many times, i would not feel comfortable casting next to someone elses boat.
JellyMan reply :
I don't know... if somebody threw a fit about me fishing their dock, I would mumble under my breath, "*#^$%* &%^!*$@@&$", and say "no problem".
Whatever. I would rather be courteous. If I asked somebody the same with my own concerns, I would expect the same back. Get off my dock fool.
Nibby reply :
This subject was deeply discussed just a few weeks ago. I don't think it's necessary to re visit this, all it will do is start a battle of opinions. I don't see a need to discuss my opinion, because I highly doubt anyone is listening to mine or anyone else's opinion on this topic. Even though many let us down, anglers should have the faith in other anglers to make the right decisions, and it should be left at that.
Skeeter Dan reply :
Its Called Respect. On land or water respect other peoples property.
jtharris3 reply :
IBL! 
tomustang reply :
On 8/2/2014 at 3:10 PM, Demonic Forrest said:I seen a post on here a week or two ago and have been thinking about it quite a bit. I don't own a boat, nor will I ever have enough money to own one, but the boat fisherman get ticked off if someone doesn't want them skipping jigs at or near their dock. It's their dock, they use it, their boat is in it. If they don't want you casting near it, don't get all ticked off and rant on these forums (I know, I'm doing the same and being hypocritical). The way I see it, is you put your $50K+ bass boat out there and let multiple fisherman of varying skill levels cast all sorts of lures at it and next to it. Sure, some of you may be great at casting, but there are people who will try to do the same as you and not be as accurate and end up pegging the hell out of someone's boat without saying anything. I know you're all probably going to say "it won't hurt the boat," but I don't think you're going to let me throw stuff at your car even if I believe it won't hurt it. Anyways, be respectful to people and their property. If they don't want you fishing near their stuff, then move along.
No one's fishing the dock, they're fishing around it.
That water their dock is on is public, they don't own it. Just like you don't own a street you park your car on, it may be in front of your house but it still doesn't make it your street. What's next you going to tell others not to park next to your car out in the street?
JellyMan reply :
On 8/4/2014 at 1:06 PM, tomustang said:No one's fishing the dock, they're fishing around it.
That water their dock is on is public, they don't own it. Just like you don't own a street you park your car on, it may be in front of your house but it still doesn't make it your street. What's next you going to tell others not to park next to your car out in the street?
Is it cool if I go in the street outside your house and chip golf balls toward and around your property and every once in awhile make contact with your property? I know we are playing semantics here but you have to be respectful. We all know that that one guy that didn't want you fishing up in his dock ruined your chances of your lifetime PB, he is a jerk, it's not against the law, blah blah. Just move on. It's not the end of the world, folks. Lets be adults.
I'll tell you right now, if I had lake front property, saw somebody fishing my dock and heard all the banging, clanking impact from weights on my dock and boat, I would say something for sure. I wouldn't mind people fishing my dock but I have seen the majority of people that snoop around docks. They smack everything and that is enough to tick the owner off to where nobody has special dock privileges. They get fed up. Wear a shoe on the other foot.
Slipknot_Fan666 reply :
On 8/4/2014 at 1:06 PM, tomustang said:No one's fishing the dock, they're fishing around it.
That water their dock is on is public, they don't own it. Just like you don't own a street you park your car on, it may be in front of your house but it still doesn't make it your street. What's next you going to tell others not to park next to your car out in the street?
Alright, you want to play that game? I can throw a baseball probably over 70mph, but inaccurately. If I see your car on the streets that you don't own, I'll get a bucket of them and throw them as hard as I can underneath your car. If I hit it, oh well, I wasn't aiming at the car. I was aiming at the street that you do not own.
tomustang reply :
On 8/4/2014 at 1:15 PM, JellyMan said:Is it cool if I go in the street outside your house and chip golf balls toward and around your property and every once in awhile make contact with your property? I know we are playing semantics here but you have to be respectful. We all know that that one guy that didn't want you fishing up in his dock ruined your chances of your lifetime PB, he is a jerk, it's not against the law, blah blah. Just move on. It's not the end of the world, folks. Lets be adults.
I'll tell you right now, if I had lake front property, saw somebody fishing my dock and heard all the banging, clanking impact from weights on my dock and boat, I would say something for sure. I wouldn't mind people fishing my dock but I have seen the majority of people that snoop around docks. They smack everything and that is enough to tick the owner off to where nobody has special dock privileges. They get fed up. Wear a shoe on the other foot.
If it's legal why not, unless your city has an ordinance about it. I can't stop it since it's PUBLIC. I'm not going to cry on the internet about how folks should or shouldn't fish, being hypocritical as even stated by the OP. What's there to be adult about it? Coming to the realization that baits smacking up against someones boat when their fishing a dock on public water is going to be an issue you cant stop, it's a fact and you have to deal with it.
On 8/4/2014 at 1:29 PM, Demonic Forrest said:Alright, you want to play that game?
What's that, the trolling game??
Slipknot_Fan666 reply :
On 8/4/2014 at 3:16 PM, tomustang said:What's that, the trolling game??
Trolling is a dying fad for teens and kids. That makes me believe you're immature.
tomustang reply :
But you are a teen. Guess you trolled me.
Slipknot_Fan666 reply :
Apparently this teen is more mature then you.
Sam reply :
May I suggest everyone contact their respective state game and fisheries department for their input on fishing private docks.
There are legal actions regarding water rights all over the country with different rulings and outcomes.
In Virginia you can legally fish any dock, pier or boathouse, etc. However, you cannot throw a wake if you are within 50-feet of any dock, pier or boathouse.
I personally have encountered only one individual who did not want anyone fishing in front of his house. This is on the hot side of One Fish Anna. The guy releases his two labs and then throws sticks to them in the water, having them dive in to get and retrieve the sticks. He does this all year long and it is fun to float past his house and watch him run out with the dogs.
What he does not understand is that no one has ever caught a fish off his breakfront so it is a few minutes of entertainment for us.
I have had a friend threatened with a shotgun on Lake Gaston by a landowner. The local sheriff went to the guy's house and had a heart-to-heart talk with him and so far no more problems.
We speak with people on their docks as we fish around them and have not found any jerks so far. We have also not encountered any topless ladies but we are still hopeful our luck will change one day.
Lund Explorer reply :
In the State of Michigan, the lakefront property owner has legal possession of the land. This includes the dry shoreline and the bottom of the lake. They also have the sole right to ownership of any dock, swim platform, or pier attached to that land, wet or dry. The State of Michigan(and by extension all of it's residents) owns the water and the fish that swim in it. Any boater or fisherman has the right to navigate (or fish) anywhere on the water itself, but they have no right to access the private property of the lakefront owner.
Whether anyone likes it or not, boaters or fisherman do not have any right to use that property.
When it comes to disrespectful people, its a large club and there are members from all the different users. To join that group, a person simply needs to think that their rights outweigh those that others have.
Driftb reply :
Occasionally when I am fishing a lake and in a search pattern, I will fish docks. To be honest, I usually am pretty embarrassed to do it and I feel like when I have to stoop to dock fishing, I must be out of ideas. I'd much rather be fishing a spot that is free of the human touch.
senile1 reply :
"Treat others as you would want to be treated." That is just simple common sense.
In my state I am allowed to fish docks so I just make sure I don't hit someone's boat. If I am an inaccurate caster that means I don't cast near the boat at all. If the dock owner tells me he or she doesn't allow anyone to fish his dock, I respectfully move along. Ethical actions and the law often do not walk hand in hand. Just because the law states that I am allowed to do it, doesn't mean I should do it.
Just be nice to people and try to see things from their perspective. If you really strive to do this, you may find out that some of your most strongly held convictions are not as accurate as you thought.
ColdSVT reply :
Bass never hide near bassboats any way...cmon people
Noe pontoons on the other hand is a different story...
tomustang reply :
On 8/4/2014 at 9:51 PM, senile1 said:"Treat others as you would want to be treated." That is just simple common sense.
In my state I am allowed to fish docks so I just make sure I don't hit someone's boat. If I am an inaccurate caster that means I don't cast near the boat at all. If the dock owner tells me he or she doesn't allow anyone to fish his dock, I respectfully move along. Ethical actions and the law often do not walk hand in hand. Just because the law states that I am allowed to do it, doesn't mean I should do it.
Just be nice to people and try to see things from their perspective. If you really strive to do this, you may find out that some of your most strongly held convictions are not as accurate as you thought.
That's the key. Now on the other hand while someone wants to set up shop and 'inaccurately' cast over is just ignorant and childish.
Catch and Grease reply :
If your fishing a persons dock and they come out a politely ask you to move along and you countine to fish, well shame on you. Its is just polite to do things sometimes even if you don't have to.
jhoffman reply :
I think you missed the point of that thread completely. Not many people are dumb enough to wing a 1oz jig up near someones chris craft. A lot of times these owners who get bent, do so at guys fishing the sides of the docks with no boats. If you think certain docks arent better than the next than you have never fished a true dock lake.
A lake like Chautauqua for example, some of those docks you could fish for weeks and never catch a fish on them. Some of them, due to how they meet certain under water features cause bass to stack up on those docks. Its usually the guy who has that hot dock that meets the contour who gets bent. Well bud, it just so happens that the first breakline of sand to rock and drop all happens within five feet of your dock, thats why people fish it, its a game of odds.
Maybe you like to pay taxes and fishing license money to see guys who have more money than respect for the common guy yell at anglers but not I. That lake was there before he made his millions and will be there long after he is dead and gone.
I see a lot of people like to use analogies so Ill make one of my own. This is like the guy when you were a kid who every time you hit a baseball into his property from the public park he took it. Or better yet, Im the guy whos property the city water line starts on, therefore Im gonna shut it off cause I dont want you to drink any of it.
Money buys no one the right to treat another like trash and just the opposite is true. Everyone could just respect each other a little bit on both sides of this fence and there would be no issue. If the guy who owns the dock sees someone a little close to his boat he could say "Hey bud, id appreciate it if you only fish the other side of the dock or not skip up near the boat". Instead what most do is come out, puff out their chest like theyre someone special and proclaim how they spend tens of thousands of dollars in year for fees to have a dock.
tatertester reply :
I fish docks whenever I come across them, BUT, if there is one or several docks in a row with people on or near the docks I simply continue on around them...It is only courteous to do so.
Logan S reply :
I fish a lot of docks... Even if there are people on a dock as I'm working down a row I'll usually continue on fishing it. I've never run into anyone who wasn't friendly. I've even caught fish from a dock with people on it a few times... The thing is, when I see people on the dock I'll say hello and ask if it's alright to keep fishing through as I come up on it. Nobody has ever said no.
I've had a couple encounters with people that came walking down to 'chase me off'... A quick apology and I move on, even when they are rude. No sense in dwelling on it. I usually hit the prime docks early anyway, so the people aren't awake to get mad even if they do care .
Jd_Phillips_Fishin reply :
Most of the time when someone notices me or my dad fishing there dock they just ignore us and sometimes they will walk out on there dock and root for us to catch one. There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish at there marina. We told her it was public water and we had the right to fish there as long as we didn't touch the dock or the boats. And thats what we did with out touching the dock or any boats.
And if people are on there dock we just ignore them and keep fishing unless they start talking to us. But most people don't care if we fish there dock.
plumworm reply :
Son, learn to use "there" and "their" properly, otherwise, good post.
slonezp reply :
I remember fishing Santee Cooper (the bigger of the 2 lakes) and a guy had one of those pulsating water sprinklers hooked up to a motion sensor. If someone was too close to the dock the motion sensor would energize a water pump and the sprinkler would drench the offending boat that got too close.
Crappiebasser reply :
On 8/5/2014 at 9:35 AM, slonezp said:I remember fishing Santee Cooper (the bigger of the 2 lakes) and a guy had one of those pulsating water sprinklers hooked up to a motion sensor. If someone was too close to the dock the motion sensor would energize a water pump and the sprinkler would drench the offending boat that got too close.
As hot as it gets down here in the summer I would think that would attract fishermen rather than repel them.
ColdSVT reply :
On 8/5/2014 at 9:35 AM, slonezp said:I remember fishing Santee Cooper (the bigger of the 2 lakes) and a guy had one of those pulsating water sprinklers hooked up to a motion sensor. If someone was too close to the dock the motion sensor would energize a water pump and the sprinkler would drench the offending boat that got too close.
That would be nice on an august afternoon lol
Long distance casts if its cold lol
Violinguy reply :
On 8/5/2014 at 8:57 AM, carolina bassin said:Most of the time when someone notices me or my dad fishing there dock they just ignore us and sometimes they will walk out on there dock and root for us to catch one. There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish at there marina. We told her it was public water and we had the right to fish there as long as we didn't touch the dock or the boats. And thats what we did with out touching the dock or any boats.
And if people are on there dock we just ignore them and keep fishing unless they start talking to us. But most people don't care if we fish there dock.
There is an attitude that too many people have these days, and that is if I am allowed by law to do something, I'm going to do it no matter how annoying or inconsiderate it is. Kind of like the guy walking around the streets in CO with a shotgun simply because he can. It is freaking everyone out but it's "legal" so he's going to do it. See the story HERE.
Correct, the water around the dock is public, and by law anyone is allowed to fish there. Just like the parking lot where you park your new Porsche is public property. It still wouldn't make you feel very nice to see kids playing baseball in that parking lot. Do unto others...etc. seems to be lost these days.
*Hootie reply :
On 8/5/2014 at 9:18 AM, plumworm said:Son, learn to use "there" and "their" properly, otherwise, good post.
Plumworm, when I was in school, you had to learn in order to graduate. By the time my kids were in school, all you had to do was show up to graduate. I think now, all that is required to graduate is to turn eighteen....lol.
Hootie
ww2farmer reply :
Can we all just agree............some dock owners are jerks, and so are some bass fisherman. I fish lots of docks. I go around docks that people are using, and, while not perfect, I make a real effort to NOT bang stuff off peoples boats. You have to know your limitations, if I am bobbing up in down in white caps, I am probably not going to attempt to skip a weight-less senko in the 2" opening between the hoist and the dock.
Slipknot_Fan666 reply :
On 8/6/2014 at 1:59 AM, ww2farmer said:Can we all just agree............some dock owners are jerks, and so are some bass fisherman. I fish lots of docks. I go around docks that people are using, and, while not perfect, I make a real effort to NOT bang stuff off peoples boats. You have to know your limitations, if I am bobbing up in down in white caps, I am probably not going to attempt to skip a weight-less senko in the 2" opening between the hoist and the dock.
This is basically what I'm trying to say. Some people are thinking I'm saying don't fish docks at all, which is not true because I fish docks. What I'm saying is if someone asks you to not fish their dock, don't get all be my out of shape about it. If you know you aren't the best at casting, cast at the dock itself and not the boat. It's simple as that.
SoFlaBassAddict reply :
Threads discussing this topic have made me realize one thing:
I am so glad I don't have to deal with dock fishing. I realize people catch a lot of fish on them, but wow. Sometimes it seems like it's just not worth the headache. I constantly read stories about people getting into serious arguments with the dock owners. Having stuff thrown at them, threatened with gunfire, etc etc. Just isn't worth it.
FrogFreak reply :
From time to time I fish with my buddy on a pretty busy lake and he loves to hit the docks. Well, we went by this one dock and an elderly gal comes out and stomps down to the end of the dock and stomps back to the house. My buddy says she does it every time and the only thing he can figure is she's trying to scatter the fish so we don't catch any. I guess she never says anything to him and she doesn't have any signs or chicken wire installed. Next time I see her, I'm going to tell her about the motion activated sprinkler idea.
Like a lot of others here, I just try and be respectful of other peoples stuff. If you don't want me to fish your dock, I won't. I can find em somewhere else. I fish to relax and I've never had a confrontation that left me feeling relaxed.
wnybassman reply :
There was an old lady on one of our lakes that would see you coming down the stretch of docks and she would come out on her dock and start fishing. Once you went around hers and were a few docks away, she would go back in the cottage. She did that for years. No matter what kind of conversation you would try to spark up, she would not say a word.
Jd_Phillips_Fishin reply :
On 8/5/2014 at 9:26 PM, Violinguy said:There is an attitude that too many people have these days, and that is if I am allowed by law to do something, I'm going to do it no matter how annoying or inconsiderate it is. Kind of like the guy walking around the streets in CO with a shotgun simply because he can. It is freaking everyone out but it's "legal" so he's going to do it. See the story HERE.
Correct, the water around the dock is public, and by law anyone is allowed to fish there. Just like the parking lot where you park your new Porsche is public property. It still wouldn't make you feel very nice to see kids playing baseball in that parking lot. Do unto others...etc. seems to be lost these days.
1.The reason people were freaking out about the guy in CO is because he had something that could have killed them.
2.If someone cared about their boat enough just to let it sit in the water 24/7 than they obviously don't care about their boat. But that doesn't mean I try to hit their boat intentionally.
3.I just noticed it this morning, but I miss typed my previous post. What it should have said was, "There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish their marina, because she didn't want us trespassing or messing with the boats."
slonezp reply :
On 8/6/2014 at 8:32 PM, carolina bassin said:1.The reason people were freaking out about the guy in CO is because he had something that could have killed them.
2.If someone cared about their boat enough just to let it sit in the water 24/7 than they obviously don't care about their boat. But that doesn't mean I try to hit their boat intentionally.
3.I just noticed it this morning, but I miss typed my previous post. What it should have said was, "There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish their marina, because she didn't want us trespassing or messing with the boats."
Guns don't kill people
Jd_Phillips_Fishin reply :
I wasn't saying they were afraid the gun would kill them. I was saying they were afraid because the man was holding something that he could use to kill someone.
Violinguy reply :
On 8/6/2014 at 8:32 PM, carolina bassin said:3.I just noticed it this morning, but I miss typed my previous post. What it should have said was, "There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish their marina, because she didn't want us trespassing or messing with the boats."
A simple, "No problem. We'll move on." would suffice. Instead, the response was more like "we can fish here if we want to, the water is public property." I'm trying not to accuse anyone of being a bad person, but that is the attitude that bugs the @#$%! out of me.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my front lawn to chase the kids away.
Catch and Grease reply :
On 8/5/2014 at 9:26 PM, Violinguy said:There is an attitude that too many people have these days, and that is if I am allowed by law to do something, I'm going to do it no matter how annoying or inconsiderate it is
That's exactly how I feel...
Its kinda like the "I'm not touching you" thing when we were kids haha
Slipknot_Fan666 reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 4:04 AM, Catch and Grease said:That's exactly how I feel...
Its kinda like the "I'm not touching you" thing when we were kids haha
People do it for the exact reason that they did that too. Most of them do it just to get on people's nerves. They know if they keep fishing it it will get under the dock owner's skin, and they find pleasure in that for some reason.
slonezp reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 4:20 AM, Demonic Forrest said:People do it for the exact reason that they did that too. Most of them do it just to get on people's nerves. They know if they keep fishing it it will get under the dock owner's skin, and they find pleasure in that for some reason.
I disagree. I don't think most people go out of their way to p!$$ people off intentionally. I think it's the entitlement attitude our country is adopting. Many people think because they spend money on a boat or on lakefront property, they own the water. I have run into both over the years. Most seem miserable inside
gotasnag reply :
Respect & common sense should take care of most trouble on or off the water. I also have to agree with the post on bank fisherman. It took a long time to scrape up enough to finally get a boat & I'll always give them all the space possible & no wake.
ClackerBuzz reply :
not a lot of docks on my waters but i literally see the same situation daily with parallel parking. things get out of hand with yelling and fights. yesterday i just finished parked my car and there was space left in front of me. a girl tried parking there and literally rolled into my car going at least going 2 mph. i walked up to her window and said 'i'm ok with a slow inching bump but if u want to ram into me that hard you're going to have to take me to dinner and buy me flowers first". she was so embarrassed i saw what she did that she drove off even thought i was smiling and having fun. you should see some of the mayhem and fights that go down when someone even inches into their car. other people like me just accept that living in a city means their bumpers are gonna get scratched.
if you don't know how parallel park without hitting another car don't do it or at least take ur time...especially if the owner is right there. if you don't know how to skip docks/boats w/o hitting them don't do it...or at least use a senko not a jig...and don't attempt it if the owner is right there!
slonezp reply :
Pretty Girl 1 - ClackerBuzz 0
ClackerBuzz reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 12:56 PM, slonezp said:Pretty Girl 1 - ClackerBuzz 0
and that was one of my smooth lines 
SirSnookalot reply :
Where are all these law abiding citizens with highest of moral standards, ethics and common courtesy? They'e on the internet backslapping themselves, I don't see too many in real life. By nature people are purely interested in what self serves them.
tomustang reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 1:55 PM, SirSnookalot said:Where are all these law abiding citizens with highest of moral standards, ethics and common courtesy? They'e on the internet backslapping themselves, I don't see too many in real life. By nature people are purely interested in what self serves them.
They're too busy throwing stones from their glass houses
Lund Explorer reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 2:24 PM, tomustang said:They're too busy throwing stones from their glass houses
I fully admit that I've bounced my share of worm weights into the back end of a pontoon. It wasn't intended that way, but if a dock/boat owner had ever held me accountable for it, I would have agreed that I was wrong. However, I also never got into an argument with a dock owner if they told me they didn't want me to skip under their dock. We'd simply move along.
Like a good recovering alcoholic, I'm now many years past the last time I felt the urge to push a worm into a place I didn't think it fit. It's also been the same length of time since a topless gal jumped up in surprise from the backend bench of one of those pontoons when a worm weight missed its target (partner Mike's cast not mine).
slonezp reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 1:55 PM, SirSnookalot said:Where are all these law abiding citizens with highest of moral standards, ethics and common courtesy? They'e on the internet backslapping themselves, I don't see too many in real life. By nature people are purely interested in what self serves them.
I'd like to believe most people are good people. Certain morals and values have slowly been removed from the way people are being brought up. I can't say anymore without breaking site rules
hoosierbass07 reply :
My sister lives on a lake in Florida and she and her husband will find lures on their boat dock that get stuck from time to time. She collects them. She understands they don't own the water and the fisherman basically has the right to fish under the boat dock. Her husband on the other hand does not like it but I don't think he goes out and argues with them. Interesting thing, whenever I visit I don't see many home owners actually sitting on their docks.
jhoffman reply :
If I ever become lucky enough to own a dock on a popular fishing lake in this lifetime, ill be sure to sit back in my recliner, with my playboy wife and chear them on from inside the air conditioning. People dont realize just how good life is that you can even begin to afford such a thing. Its unreal the amount of money that some people have into lake front homes that they never even show up to but once a year. Guys bulldozing 1 million dollar homes to build 20 million dollar homes then worry about a guy fishing from a bass boat, get a grip.
Lund Explorer reply :
On 8/8/2014 at 7:58 PM, jhoffman said:If I ever become lucky enough to own a dock on a popular fishing lake in this lifetime, ill be sure to sit back in my recliner, with my playboy wife and chear them on from inside the air conditioning. People dont realize just how good life is that you can even begin to afford such a thing. Its unreal the amount of money that some people have into lake front homes that they never even show up to but once a year. Guys bulldozing 1 million dollar homes to build 20 million dollar homes then worry about a guy fishing from a bass boat, get a grip.
It's got to be an awfully hard life to feel so bitter about what other people have, but I'll wish you all the luck in the world that you make it to that point.
And if you ever get that new wife, remember that without a picture, it never happened!
K_Mac reply :
On 8/8/2014 at 7:58 PM, jhoffman said:If I ever become lucky enough to own a dock on a popular fishing lake in this lifetime, ill be sure to sit back in my recliner, with my playboy wife and chear them on from inside the air conditioning. People dont realize just how good life is that you can even begin to afford such a thing. Its unreal the amount of money that some people have into lake front homes that they never even show up to but once a year. Guys bulldozing 1 million dollar homes to build 20 million dollar homes then worry about a guy fishing from a bass boat, get a grip.
This statement represents an attitude that many have. It is the idea that excess starts where my budget ends. Some of the people who own these luxury homes,docks, boats, and recliners have worked hard doing things other people can not do to achieve the success they have. Good for them. Others have the same entitlement mentality as those who own nothing and think because of their economic status they are somehow more deserving. Tearing down a perfectly good home to build something else in my world is hard to accept, for others it much the same as adding a deck; they both use available funds to make the property better suited to their needs. A guy with a 20 million dollar home has the same right to be concerned about his property as I do fishing his dock from my old tin boat. There is always an under-current of judgement in these threads that suggests that because someone has more money than me he does not deserve to be treated with as much respect. It is as wrong as the knot-head who thinks that because he has more he deserves preferential treatment.
jhoffman reply :
Some of you are highly mistaken in your assessment. Would I love to have that 20 million dollar home, you bet I would. But heres a little note for those that missed it in life, not everyone who has money made it themselves. I could see being mad if I am standing on your dock and fishing but thats not the scenerio, the scenerio is fishing AROUND your property and the person being mad about the fact a guy who likes to fish can do so. I dont care if you own a freaking shack with one room or a twenty million dollar home. I have friends that range from people who can fly private jets at anytime they want to any location in the world the whole way down to people who can barely afford to eat.
What I do know is that when I have something special I can appreciate it for what it is and how it came to be without needing to run down to the end of the dock everytime I see someone flipn it.
Oh if my problems and worries in life only revolved around a total stranger doing an activity they love and me having the ability to treat them like trash because I have and they have not, yep sounds like a life I would lead. Not really, id probably build MORE structure to fish in front of, just cause I could.
K_Mac reply :
Jhoffman I don't disagree with most of what you say. You continue to make it about money though. It does not matter one bit whether the owner of the house and recliner made his money or was given it, whether he likes to fish or not, or even if he behaves like an idiot. The only thing that matters in all this is how I conduct myself. I cannot control anyone else, and neither can you. Life is too short to worry about stuff you can't control or to fight with fools. Peace.
Catch and Grease reply :
"Life's to short to fight with fools" exactly...
Why bother arguing with a guy about fishing his dock, just move along, plenty more fish in the lake...
Crappiebasser reply :
On 8/8/2014 at 7:58 PM, jhoffman said:If I ever become lucky enough to own a dock on a popular fishing lake in this lifetime, ill be sure to sit back in my recliner, with my playboy wife and chear them on from inside the air conditioning. People dont realize just how good life is that you can even begin to afford such a thing. Its unreal the amount of money that some people have into lake front homes that they never even show up to but once a year. Guys bulldozing 1 million dollar homes to build 20 million dollar homes then worry about a guy fishing from a bass boat, get a grip.
Wow all this time I thought I paid for my lake house by going to college at night, working 12 hour shifts at a plastic wrap plant to pay for school, working 60-80 hour weeks for 20 years after college, saving every penny I could, and not going into debt for anything I could live without. I never knew it was just dumb luck. Thanks for setting me straight.
OntarioFishingGuy reply :
Go flip trees or something. No point arguing about docks, put it all in perspective, it's a very small issue.
Glenn reply :
I honestly don't see money, value, net worth, income, or any hierarchy (implied, inferred, or otherwise understood) as being even remotely the issue.
It's about respect. And it goes both ways.
Regardless of how poor or rich you are, respect is free; and there are jerks on each end of the spectrum as well as in between. Character and manners are learned; not dictated by what is owned or earned.
MemphisFF reply :
On 8/6/2014 at 6:14 AM, wnybassman said:There was an old lady on one of our lakes that would see you coming down the stretch of docks and she would come out on her dock and start fishing. Once you went around hers and were a few docks away, she would go back in the cottage. She did that for years. No matter what kind of conversation you would try to spark up, she would not say a word.
This probably what her day looks like when she sees a fisherman fishing her dock..
speed craw reply :
Use your head and be respectful. The next time you see someone on a dock STOP ! , ask permission , most often they are caught off gaurd and get a favorable reaction .I Ihave met some super nice people that tell sure and no but turn around and tell me to come back at a certain area and or time for some nice places to fish and with what lures to use . Had a deal worked out with an old codger when I went into a specific boating dock community he would generally run people off . I brought him cold beer and a sub sandwich that was my toll lol . Some of the best fishing due to lack of pressure.
Fish Murderer 71 reply :
Respect is earned when it is first given to others.
porkleaker reply :
I hopped onto someone's dock the other day. I didn't get snagged, I just saw an overturned turtle on her dock and went to rescue it lol. Apparently that happens quite often, she thanked me and I went on my way.
I don't mind people fishing around my dock if I'm not around. And at best they'll get snagged, snap their line and leave me a new lure.
Jeff H reply :
I avoid docks as much as I possibly can. I WILL fish them if I feel I must but it's a last ditch effort for me. Why? 2 reasons....I don't want to deal with the hassle of some distraught properrty owner , and I equate fishing docks to shooting grouse on the ground. If you're an upland hunter you know what I mean by that.
jhoffman reply :
On 8/11/2014 at 2:25 AM, Jeff H said:I equate fishing docks to shooting grouse on the ground. If you're an upland hunter you know what I mean by that.
Really? How does that even compare? The bass has to choose to eat your lure, the grouse you walked up on sitting there who has a second to choose to hold tight or flush. You can force a grouse to flush, you cant force a bass to bite.
J Francho reply :
Wow. Didn't we just do a dozen pages or so on this recently?
tomustang reply :
Exactly, lol
ColdSVT reply :
If i owned a lake front house with a dock id hand out coldbeer to anyone who caught a keeper from under it!
And no i would not park my boat there all season....i still dont understand how people can do that lol
EmersonFish reply :
Congrats to everyone on being able to discuss this without getting it locked down. We just had this conversation, and it didn't go quite as well.
I use to live on TRL, and we had a slip at a dock, so maybe it's not quite the same, but people fished around our boat and our stuff all the time, and I don't remember spending one second caring. We were responsible for the upkeep of the dock, and it wasn't really a problem. Sometimes I wonder why guys can't break off when they get caught on the cables without leaving 20 yards of line behind, but they do that all over the lake.
Now I live up by Lake of the Ozarks. If you are unfamiliar with LOZ, just look it up on Google Earth. The shoreline is pretty much one long stretch of docks for much of the lake, and all of those folks are privileged to have those docks. So yeah, they get fished a lot (although the docks in prime areas obviously get a lot more attention). Doesn't seem to be near as much of a problem in reality as it is in theory around here. There are some knuckleheads on both sides of the issue, but that applies to pretty much any situation in live.
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