I've heard so many bass fishing myths since I started fishing. Some are a bit true and some are not. drop below some of the ones you have heard and put why you think they are true or false
The book, Destroying Bass Fishing Myths by John Mark Warren is excellent and it smashes many myths of bass fishing.
Some of the topics discussed include:
Moon Phase or Moon Farce
Educating Bass
Currently Windy
Fishing Line Fallacy
Forage Foible
The Bass Aren't There
The Creation of Color
Bass Migration
If you can find a copy I think you will enjoy reading what John Mark pens.
Bass dont care about your line, they're only watching your lure!!
Redundant threads are plentiful in the winter.
Total myth! ????
On 1/23/2020 at 10:07 PM, Sam said:The book, Destroying Bass Fishing Myths by John Mark Warren is excellent and it smashes many myths of bass fishing.
Some of the topics discussed include:
Moon Phase or Moon Farce
Educating Bass
Currently Windy
Fishing Line Fallacy
Forage Foible
The Bass Aren't There
The Creation of Color
Bass Migration
If you can find a copy I think you will enjoy reading what John Mark pens.
oh man that is great thank you!
On 1/23/2020 at 10:27 PM, 12poundbass said:Redundant threads are plentiful in the winter.
Total myth! ????
LOL I knew I would have one! sorry no winter in Florida all sunny skies here
That the world record tie was caught in an oxbow in the state of Georgia.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:27 PM, 12poundbass said:Redundant threads are plentiful in the winter.
Total myth! ????
Message some topics that aren't already on the forum so I can post. thanks!
On 1/23/2020 at 10:28 PM, flbassmaster said:oh man that is great thank you!
LOL I knew I would have one! sorry no winter in Florida all sunny skies here
Lol. Glad you can have fun with it.
Watch out for falling iguanas.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:30 PM, 12poundbass said:Lol. Glad you can have fun with it.
Watch out for falling iguanas.
LOL Haven't seen any yet. but they are everywhere. iguanas, peacock bass, tarpon, snook. take your pic. come down to florida. I just wish we had busch latte cans down here.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:07 PM, Sam said:The book, Destroying Bass Fishing Myths by John Mark Warren is excellent and it smashes many myths of bass fishing.
I agree this book is a very interesting read and has some great information. The book has one flaw that I think was unforgivable. He has a chapter "Graphite and Fiberglass on Trial" where he challenges the idea that fiberglass rods are better for crankbaits because they are less sensitive. His primary argument against the need for fiberglass rods involves numerous quotes from Rick Clunn that he says support his claim. The guy obviously didn't do his homework. I can't think of any pro that has done more to promote the use of fiberglass over graphite rods for crankbaits. Rick Clunn has said that using new graphite rods for crankbaits almost cost him the 1976 Classic. For me this mistake cast doubt on the whole book but I enjoyed reading it.
Tight action crankbaits are best in cold water and wide action are best in warm water . In my experience this is not true .
when the squirrels are down on the ground feeding it means that the bass are biting
i am not a crack pot
On 1/23/2020 at 10:07 PM, Sam said:The book, Destroying Bass Fishing Myths by John Mark Warren is excellent and it smashes many myths of bass fishing.
Some of the topics discussed include:
Moon Phase or Moon Farce
Educating Bass
Currently Windy
Fishing Line Fallacy
Forage Foible
The Bass Aren't There
The Creation of Color
Bass Migration
If you can find a copy I think you will enjoy reading what John Mark pens.
It's available to download for Kindle.
Well, I have not read the book, but I can say categorically, LINE MATTERS.
On 1/24/2020 at 3:34 AM, roadwarrior said:Well, I have not read the book, but I can say categorically, LINE MATTERS.
^^what he said
Topwater baits don’t work in the cold
On 1/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Bass dont care about your line, they're only watching your lure!!
Myth
You can't catch a truly big bass from your arm chair, but you can have fun with your rod just sitting there.
On 1/24/2020 at 9:08 AM, papajoe222 said:you can have fun with your rod just sitting there.
How did you punctuate that? Was it:
"You can have fun, with your rod just sitting there"
or
"You can have fun with your rod, just sitting there." ? Slight difference. jj
On 1/23/2020 at 10:29 PM, Hook2Jaw said:That the world record tie was caught in an oxbow in the state of Georgia.
But that's not a myth though ????
Rocky banks warm faster on a cold sunny day. I've checked this several times. Does not happen here.
That any " one" lure is the best. They all have their tome and place
On 1/24/2020 at 4:53 AM, Jermination said:^^what he said
+2. If it didn't we would all fish 100 lb braid
????
On 1/25/2020 at 4:16 AM, TnRiver46 said:+2. If it didn't we would all fish 100 lb braid
BUT, have you tried fishing all 100 pound braid? How do you know it doesn't work?
Well 65lb braid catches me ALOT of fish.. sooooo
On 1/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Bass dont care about your line, they're only watching your lure!!
Do you think this one is true or false, you didn't say. This one might start a war but I'm going with that it's false, but not as false as many may think.
My personal belief, is false. Line size/type does matter. But I'm in agreement with you, probably not near as important as some think. At least not down south far as I'm concerned.
Basically I was trolling around and this looked like a good topic to get bites.. ????
On 1/25/2020 at 5:11 AM, JediAmoeba said:BUT, have you tried fishing all 100 pound braid? How do you know it doesn't work?
On 1/25/2020 at 8:23 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Well 65lb braid catches me ALOT of fish.. sooooo
I’ve tried both in clear water and saw the fish laughing
On 1/25/2020 at 11:10 AM, TnRiver46 said:
I’ve tried both in clear water and saw the fish laughing
I expect the environment matters. I fish 50lb braid in water with 15ft visibility and catch bass. But that's in glacial natural lakes with lots of vegetation. These bass bass spend their lives hunting prey through beds of cabbage, coontail, and milfoil ...why should braided line register as anything other than just another of the millions of tendrils, stalks, or whorls of vegetation that make up their whole world? That t-rigged worm on braided line is just another critter crawling around the weeds.
I am not convinced that bass care about line visibility in any of the places I fish. But that doesn't necessarily mean line visibility won't matter everywhere.
On 1/25/2020 at 9:47 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:My personal belief, is false. Line size/type does matter. But I'm in agreement with you, probably not near as important as some think. At least not down south far as I'm concerned.
Basically I was trolling around and this looked like a good topic to get bites.. ????
Right, I think that's key: whether something is "myth" is a matter of degree -- line size isn't a myth because it doesn't matter at all, in an absolute sense...it's that it probably matters less than many anglers think, much of the time.
Line size can certainly effect the action of a bait... if that matters
On 1/25/2020 at 11:39 AM, Dirtyeggroll said:Line size can certainly effect the action of a bait... if that matters
YES, true. Running depth as well.
In the Cherokee elite series event of 2019 (freezing temps in February), I imagine almost zero of the competitors used braided line . This year they are coming in may and there might be a few people using it for some reason but I doubt it
On 1/25/2020 at 5:11 AM, JediAmoeba said:BUT, have you tried fishing all 100 pound braid? How do you know it doesn't work?
I have 130lb braid on one rod, I would not want to try to fish it for bass.
You have to fish deep in winter.
I have a tough time believing that fish can see your line but not the huge treble hooks hanging off your lure. ????
That being said I usually try to us the best line for the application.
Eh, everybody has their own beliefs about wether or not line size/type matters.
"Facts not Feelings" -B.Shapiro
Prove to me with facts line size/type matters. I use both braid and mono, not because of the visibility of either, but because they both do different things I want them to do. Line affect the bait, absolutely. But will the line size prevent a fish from biting my crankbait with Trebles on it?
MYTH! ????
This is just a single experience , so it doesnt prove anything but .. I was trying to cach a bass under a dock . I was pitching a plastic craw with mono in 12 or 15 lb test , dont remember and the bass just ignored it . I tied the bait on a spinning combo with light line and then the bass bit .
What about this . If one could cast and retrieve anchor rope would they get many bites ? What about clothes line , para cord , 200 lb test , 100 lb test , 50 lb , 25 lb , 12 lb , 8 lb..? Where is the cut off when line diameter doesnt matter ?
On line size. Then there is the A-rig. Here comes a wire basket towards their face and they still ignore it for the goodies that are following.
Just say’in.
Wires , hooks and line are essential . If they could all be made invisible I would bet every cent I have that they would get more bites .
On 1/25/2020 at 11:10 AM, TnRiver46 said:
I’ve tried both in clear water and saw the fish laughing
they probably thought it was me.....again ????
If the cows are down, the fishing is gonna be tough. If the cows are grazing, good day for fishing...
Myth or not, I choose to believe this one. Mainly because every time I see a cow, I start thinking about fishing, and that makes me happy
Wind in the south blows the bait in the fish's mouth.
Wind from the west, fishing is the best.
Wind from the east, good fishing is the least.
Wind from the north, fishermen should not go forth.
True. No myth. jj
Myth: a jerk bait is only effective in colder water for smallmouth.
Fact: it is also effective in warmer water for largemouth.
On 2/17/2020 at 2:53 AM, gimruis said:Myth: a jerk bait is only effective in colder water for smallmouth.
Fact: it is also effective in warmer water for largemouth.
I am not a jerkbait master by any means . My best jerkbait day came in the summer when bass were just slashing at crankbaits . I tied on a Rapala X-Rap and the bass engulfed it .
On 1/25/2020 at 11:39 AM, Dirtyeggroll said:Line size can certainly effect the action of a bait... if that matters
Size does matter. I once knew a woma...... Hey, what? this is the bass forum? Oops, nevermind.....
On 2/17/2020 at 12:58 AM, TroxBox said:If the cows are down, the fishing is gonna be tough. If the cows are grazing, good day for fishing...
Myth or not, I choose to believe this one. Mainly because every time I see a cow, I start thinking about fishing, and that makes me happy
That's a pretty good one actually. Cattle tend to lay down before a storm front moves in. It's just a sign of weather to come which could give you an idea of what the bass might be doing.
Myth; Moon phases have an effect on spawning, freshwater, fish. Guys fish during a full moon, see bass spawning and come to the conclusion that the moon had something to do with it. There have been scientific studies that show that bass spawning is not effected by the full moon or any moon phase. Zero studies that show the full moon will trigger the spawn.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Bass dont care about your line, they're only watching your lure!!
Yup. Ive seen them "nose down" on 5 LB flouro so I know they can see your line. How much does that matter in the grand scheme of things, who knows. Line diameter plays a part in a baits action. I have had days where light line has made a difference and others days where they eat the paint off the boat.
On 2/20/2020 at 10:20 PM, Hawkeye21 said:That's a pretty good one actually. Cattle tend to lay down before a storm front moves in. It's just a sign of weather to come which could give you an idea of what the bass might be doing.
Myth. According to science, cattle lay down when it is cold because it keeps them warmer (body heat), storm or no storm. It is often cold before a storm so that's how it got started.
The Daily Mail and Farmers Almanac may say otherwise, but there is no scientific evidence that cows predict weather in such a manner.
On that cattle thing, cattle lie down when there bellies are full. They have 4 stomachs they have to chew their cud. Cattle start eating before dawn. Well fed cattle will graze for a few hours then lie down. By 9:00 or so they should be getting full and go lie down. In 4-6 hours they have digested their food and are up and grazing again. That is an every day event no matter the weather.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Bass dont care about your line, they're only watching your lure!!
I watched a video of Gerald Swindle where he was typing a jig on and said "Why would a bass care about your line's tag end when they don't care about the other 100 yards tied onto it". Then he cut the tag end off his fluorocarbon line and cast it out. LOL. But I'm in agreement. I was fishing with a guide and we were working down the bank flipping to sparse patches of pepper grass. I said "We're mighty close. Aren't they aware of our presence?" He said "Yeah, don't worry about that. When you drop that jig in their face in that small space they can't ignore it. Instincts won't allow it."
On 1/23/2020 at 10:34 PM, flbassmaster said:LOL Haven't seen any yet. but they are everywhere. iguanas, peacock bass, tarpon, snook. take your pic. come down to florida. I just wish we had busch latte cans down here.
and gators and pythons
Here are a couple bass fishing myths I have heard from other bass fishermen;
1. Myth = Peacock bass do not bite at night.
Truth = I have caught peacock bass at night with topwaters.
2. Myth = Peacock bass do not spawn in February.
Truth = I have seen lots of peacock bass on nest in February (including this year) if the weather is warm enough for them to be bedding.
3. Myth = You need a baitcaster reel if your goal is to catch big bass.
Truth = I catch almost all my big bass on spinning reels and use the same reels for inshore fishing for snook, tarpon, redfish, and other inshore species.
4. Myth = Bass do not bite during strong cold fronts in South Florida.
Truth = I have caught bass during strong cold fronts in South Florida.
There are other bass fishing myths that I have heard but I will just mention these for now.
Cannot recall the video, I will try to post it when I can. Anyways this guy that says bass can only remember for 15 minutes. Says you can catch the same fish on the same lure 15 minutes later. Cannot recall exactly but the guy was like a bass biologist or something like that. So is this true? I found the video, its by bassresource
Also interesting points on line size. On 1 hand you have fish getting spooked from the line...makes sense. On the other hand they are biting your lure with treble hooks attached to your invisible line.
On 1/25/2020 at 9:47 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:My personal belief, is false. Line size/type does matter. But I'm in agreement with you, probably not near as important as some think. At least not down south far as I'm concerned.
Basically I was trolling around and this looked like a good topic to get bites.. ????
Are you using flouro leaders? This topic has me interested as I have been wanting to try braid but don't want to spook the fish but also don't want to hassle with leaders. Do they make clear braids or something you can just tie directly and fish like mono
I think worrying about line color and type is wildly overrated.
I caught my PB in crystal clear water on the exact same setup (15lb green straight braid on a TX rig) that I caught my prior PB, which was in warmer, low visibility water a few states south. I've seen straight white and yellow braid do just fine. I have seen guys with leaders break off the leader plenty of times while casting or fighting fish. One more knot to fail.
Also, black is widely considered a highly visible color to bass. Why are guys using sharpies to color the last few feet of their line?? To make it more invisible? Maybe to the fisherman!
On 2/22/2020 at 1:19 PM, Jonas Staggs said:
Are you using flouro leaders? This topic has me interested as I have been wanting to try braid but don't want to spook the fish but also don't want to hassle with leaders. Do they make clear braids or something you can just tie directly and fish like mono
No such thing as clear braid, I use braid and mono.
On spinning I use braid-mono leader
I fish tannic, stained, muddy water. I'm not worried about fish seeing my line as much as guys who fish crystal clear waters up north. I do however believe that line size and type does play a part in some situations, I'd be a fool to deny that. Watch how often pros change line types depending on their location. It matters. My parts, it dont
Also dont be afraid of fishing leaders, if you learn to tie a good knot, it wont fail you. I tie the Alberto knot for my leaders and have never had a failure
Myth.- catch a fish on your first cast and you'll be jinxed for the day
Truth .- danged right about that ! ...... several times.