Yum Dingers or Strike King Shim-E-Sticks? 2024
Sword of the Lord reply :
My favorite lure is the Senko. I especially love them wacky rigged. However, even with zip ties, I'm burning through them so quickly. I could have much better gear than Lightning Rods and Abu reels from Wal-Mart and DSG if I wasn't spending so much on lures alone. So, which do you prefer: Yum Dingers or Strike King Shim-E-Sticks?
IndianaFinesse reply :
I know you didn't mention them, but I like the bps stick-o better than the dingers and shimesticks. Closest thing to a senko, although no stick worm works as well as a senko IMO.
Instead of zip ties, try using 1/4 inch wide pieces of (3/8" for 5" senkos) shrink tubing. I can usually get 5-12 fish per senko using them.
tcbass reply :
Try this method with the rubber tubing. I've had 1 Senko last like 10 trips.
Dorado reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:18 AM, tcbass said:Try this method with the rubber tubing. I've had 1 Senko last like 10 trips.
Do you mind sharing that color ?oxblood? I like......
tcbass reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:24 AM, Dorado said:Do you mind sharing that color ?oxblood? I like......
My favorite color, cinnamon.
Also, not all Senko's are same thickness, I've found this size tube works well with cinnamon and green pumpkin.
HookRz reply :
SK Zero or ZMan Zinker. Nothing nearly comes even close in durability. Eventually they float but you can always use a weighted whacky head.
Or...cut them in half for the traditional Midwest Finesse bait. Truth be told most of my Zinkers get chopped before they see whacky action. 
Raul reply :
I don't see what's wrong with Lightnin Rods, 80 % of the "handful" of 10+ lbers I've caught in my life including my 14 lbs PB felt the power of LRs.
Now back to the Senko vs something else cheaper and more durable, I can't say anything about SK stickbaits because I have never tried them, why ? Because Dingers do a great job.
tcbass reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:54 AM, Raul said:I don't see what's wrong with Lightnin Rods, 80 % of the "handful" of 10+ lbers I've caught in my life including my 14 lbs PB felt the power of LRs.
Now back to the Senko vs something else cheaper and more durable, I can't say anything about SK stickbaits because I have never tried them, why ? Because Dingers do a great job.
I've tried Dingers and others, none were as good as Senkos for me.
Raul reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 11:23 AM, tcbass said:
I've tried Dingers and others, none were as good as Senkos for me.
I never said they were better, actually I can't say Senkos are THAT great since they don't last enough to make a mano a mano comparison; besides, the thread is not about which baits are as great as senkos, it's about a comparison between to possible substitutes for senkos.
tcbass reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 1:14 PM, Raul said:
I never said they were better, actually I can't say Senkos are THAT great since they don't last enough to make a mano a mano comparison; besides, the thread is not about which baits are as great as senkos, it's about a comparison between to possible substitutes for senkos.
I wasn't saying you did, I'm just saying my experience with them, the Dingers just didn't work as well as Senkos. I tried that route too. lol
TOXIC reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:38 AM, tcbass said:
My favorite color, cinnamon.
Also, not all Senko's are same thickness, I've found this size tube works well with cinnamon and green pumpkin.
Great Color!! Yamamoto's top selling color is 297. I can tell you every Senko comes out of the same mold (5 inch). Now there are a few different 5 inch Senko types (Slim Senko, Pro Senko, etc.) that are different thicknesses. I've been Pro-Staff for 15 years and have watched them being made. 
Now I will tell you that there ARE slight differences in weight depending on color Lg/Sm Flake vs Solid vs Laminate, etc., in the same size Senko. Due to this some skip and fall differently. Durability has always been a discussion when it comes to Senko fishing and in my seminars, I always say that a "lot" of waste can be eliminated by rigging. As for acceptable knockoffs, you'll never hear me say that any other bait fishes like the original and I truly believe that. There's always 2 camps when it comes to Senko's, the die hard users.....and those that feel they are nothing special and that the knockoffs work just as well. Believe me when I say, you are not going to change either one's mind on the subject. 
The tournament guys that I have guided usually will use a knockoff in practice and switch over to the Senko on tournament day. Bottom line, buy what you have confidence in, because they all will catch fish.
Djohn reply :
A Senko is hard to beat. I'm not a fan of Dingers. My second choice is Lockett Lures because of the price and color selection. They offera few colors like sunfish laminant that work well for me.
NYWayfarer reply :
Dingers. I have had great success this year with all sizes of Dingers.
Dingers are great in shallow waters with little to no current as the sink rate is slow. This is where they excel.
I normally use Senkos for deeper water with current. If I want to use Dingers in that environment then I use a wacky weighted jighead, Texas rig or Carolina rig. The added weight of these techniques prevents the Dinger from floating.
**Dingers are on sale at Dick's this week. $2 a pack if you buy 5 or more. $10 gets you a whole lot of Dingers. I still haven't burned through all the ones I purchased the last time DSG had this sale**
CTBassin860 reply :
I use dingers. They have never given me a reason to switch to anything else
BassNJake reply :
I have to agree with Toxic about having 2 sides to this discussion and neither side is very swayable.
I'm poor and cheap therefore I throw knock offs.
My tourney partner will practice with knock offs and on tourney days switch to Senko's.
When they're feeding it doesn't seem to matter.
However, there have been days when the bite was tougher and the Senko was definitely the deal.
We have never had it be the other way around where the knock off out performed the Senko.
I liked the Gander Mountain brand as they made bulk packs and I have gotten some pretty decent ones on Ebay as well.
However, I also bought a bad batch from Ebay too.
Fisher-O-men reply :
Any brand I use last me all day. That might change if I ever caught a fish. Man SoCal is tough this year!
HeavyDluxe reply :
If these are the only two choices (Dingers and Shim-E-Stiks), I'd vote for the Shim-E-Stiks... They're cheaper per worm (I think), are durable, and fish fine. The only downside is that they are even *lighter*, seemingly, than the Yum's - so they don't cast as far or sink at the same rate.
That said, I sold out and bought a bulk pack of the BPS 'Tournament Grade' Stick-Os this year... They've been really solid for me. They're dirt cheap in the big packs, plenty durable (though not as durable as the Dingers) at that price, and are salted enough that they cast/sink more like true GYCB Senkos.
YMMV.
Mumbly reply :
Yum Dingers for me. I have tried a few others like the stick-o, havoc flat dawg, SK ocho, wave tiki stick, to name but 4. They all worked ok but I seem to catch more fish on the dinger's. Perhaps it's a confidence thing, not sure. Another plus is that they can be found on sale frequently for $2 a bag (BPS has them on sale for $1.97 currently).
On 8/24/2017 at 10:18 AM, tcbass said:Try this method with the rubber tubing. I've had 1 Senko last like 10 trips.
I learned that not all vinyl tubing is the same. I bought some tubing from a hardware store in that exact size and yikes. I am thinking it might be too stiff and smooth. The 5" Dinger slid right on through it with no effort at all. Looking back, I believe you mentioned in a previous thread about aquarium tubing, which I am thinking is softer and "grippier" which would keep the bait from sliding through it.
Fishes in trees reply :
I fish senko style baits quite a bit. If I'm throwing wacky style, there isn't any substitute for original senko. I'm a fan of using o-rings. 3/8 o.d. - 1/4 i.d. seems to be the size of o-ring that works best for me. Sometimes I use a single o-ring, last year I tried using 2 and criss-crossing them so that the hook is perpendicular to the bait. On e o-ring rigs the bait with the hook in line with the bait. Didn't notice a huge difference either way, this year I went back to one o-ring.
When I tx rig stick baits, either weightless or tail weighted hook or tx rig with a slip weight (pegged or not) or with an insert weight in the tail I find that there are many brands of stick baits that work. My approach has been to buy most of them and I make my bait choice based on color rather than brand.
This year my buddy has has most of his success with tx rigged dingers, black/blue sparkles laminate. Me, I've had some luck with the black & blue, and also with the V & M stick bait in Ocochobee Craw and the Ocho in the same color. Culprit makes a unique color of green pumpkin with large copper flakes that lead the league on a couple of occasions this summer. Last summer, the water overall was a little clearer than it has been this summer. Last summer the Chompers stick bait in Huckleberry color seemed to be the ticket.
So that is my approach to tx rigged stick baits. BUY THEM ALL - every color you can afford - make your bait choices according to color rather than brand. I've found that if the fish don't like the bait - it will last a long time. Should fish show a preference for a particular color, the bait won't last very long.
tcbass reply :
On 8/25/2017 at 10:02 AM, Mumbly said:Yum Dingers for me. I have tried a few others like the stick-o, havoc flat dawg, SK ocho, wave tiki stick, to name but 4. They all worked ok but I seem to catch more fish on the dinger's. Perhaps it's a confidence thing, not sure. Another plus is that they can be found on sale frequently for $2 a bag (BPS has them on sale for $1.97 currently).
I learned that not all vinyl tubing is the same. I bought some tubing from a hardware store in that exact size and yikes. I am thinking it might be too stiff and smooth. The 5" Dinger slid right on through it with no effort at all. Looking back, I believe you mentioned in a previous thread about aquarium tubing, which I am thinking is softer and "grippier" which would keep the bait from sliding through it.
Interesting.
The tube in the pic is regular plumbing tubing from Menards. I have used aquarium tubing for other stuff, not this. I agree that all tubing probably isn't the same.
moguy1973 reply :
I tried the clear 3/8" shrink wrap on my stick worms and had zero success. The worm just tore through the hook and into the fish's mouth and all I had left on my line was the hook and shrink wrap. I heated the shrink wrap up so much to compress it on the worm that the worm was melting from my heat gun. Didn't matter, the worm would slip right out of the shrink tubing. I'll stick with the doubled up Goody hair bands. They seem to work for 4-5 fish usually before they tear through the worm, and actually since I've started using weedless wacky hooks they've been lasting longer since the weedguard helps prevent the worm from sliding up the line when a fish is on.
Glenn reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:54 AM, Raul said:Now back to the Senko vs something else cheaper and more durable, I can't say anything about SK stickbaits because I have never tried them, why ? Because Dingers do a great job.
X2
moguy1973 reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:54 AM, Raul said:
Now back to the Senko vs something else cheaper and more durable, I can't say anything about SK stickbaits because I have never tried them, why ? Because Dingers do a great job.
Guess I should answer the OPs question too.
My go to are BPS Stick-O's just because they are cheap and I have caught plenty of fish on them to not warrant having to use Senkos. I also use Dingers and that's what I've been using recently since they were on sale and they had the colors I needed to fish the dirty water I was fishing. I have had some of the not so well known brands that I have not liked mainly because they were too light. I had some Gambler stick worms that wouldn't sink fast enough to use with a small wacky worm. They did work well on a shakey head though.
bowhunter63 reply :
Really like Strike King Shim-E-Stiks,Pretty tough and catch me alot of fish.As far as Lighting Rods go have been using them for years now,Great Rods for the money.
Sword of the Lord reply :
On 8/26/2017 at 5:11 AM, bowhunter63 said:Really like Strike King Shim-E-Stiks,Pretty tough and catch me alot of fish.As far as Lighting Rods go have been using them for years now,Great Rods for the money.
They are great rods. I just look at all the Senkos I've bought this season and realize I could have either more gear or better gear if I would try Dingers or the like. The ultimate goal is catching the fish, and Senkos do that, but if something else can be used with little to no noticeable negative effect, then it would be wise to cut the price by more than half.
I don't have a BPS anywhere close to me so I picked up some Dingers at a local farming and outdoors mom n pop shop. I'll order some BPS brand to try though.
Bulletman20XD reply :
The clear tubing is a neat trick. Lake Fork Tackle has a cool system I use at times when I want a wacky rig to fall a little faster.
http://www.lftlures.com/catalog/wacky-hook-weight-system
Most all senko type worms are near the same. I believe color is more important that whose senko I use. However, just like Yum Money Minnows, I refuse to spend $9 on a bag of Yamamoto's based simply on price. I use about 3/4 different brands and some locally made ones as well. Which one I purchase is based on color and not who made it.
Yakalong reply :
I've had great success with yum dingers! Also, bps stick worms have been great!
BuzzHudson19c reply :
I use Yum more but love Strike kings "sweet tater pie" color and buy a lot of them.
wdp reply :
Why not use the Z Man Zinkerz or the Strike King 3x Zero if you're wacky rigging and wanting the best durability? I would think you could fish one bait all day with the durability of the elaztech material.
ww2farmer reply :
DIngers for me
Big Bait Fishing reply :
overall best stick bait i've used , BPS stick-o !! i buy the 50 packs and they last quite awhile 
TOXIC reply :
Always a "hot" topic and I'm glad to see a great exchange of ideas!! I just got back from Wisconsin where the bite was really really tough but I finally figured them out. I had to freefall a 4 inch Senko weightless off a 4ft ledge into 25ft of water to get bit. A really slow fall rate and a smaller bait than I am used to throwing.
WIGuide reply :
I'm a Dinger guy. I usually add a little weight to them, especially if I'm wacky rigging them. I like the Eco Pro Tungsten Pro Wacky Weights 1/32 for the 4" and 1/16 for the 5" using those also makes the worms last longer.
Sword of the Lord reply :
The Dingers just haven't been the same for me. Texas Rigged they're OK, but their Wacky Rigged action is terrible coming from Senkos.
LxVE Bassin reply :
I have used yum dingers and SK shim-e-sticks. I hate dingers, they suck, I couldn't catch a fish with them. I had some success with the shim-e-stick but neither amount to the senko. I exclusively use senkos and SK Ochos now. Neither are durable but that's the trade off for the good action. Walmart sells senkos cheaper than anyone else.
ChrisD46 reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 10:18 AM, tcbass said:Try this method with the rubber tubing. I've had 1 Senko last like 10 trips.
Looks like the presentation would be affected based on your pictures : hook position , line , etc. *If you are going to go the tubing route - why not drill a hole through the center and insert your hook through that way wacky style ?
ChrisD46 reply :
On 8/29/2017 at 4:21 AM, WIGuide said:I'm a Dinger guy. I usually add a little weight to them, especially if I'm wacky rigging them. I like the Eco Pro Tungsten Pro Wacky Weights 1/32 for the 4" and 1/16 for the 5" using those also makes the worms last longer.
^^This^^ !! ...Out of all the ways I've tried to make a soft stick bait last longer - this may be the best . Some say they lose the Eco Pro weight and use a small piece of shrink tubing (I am estimating 1/8th" ~ 3/16th") shrink tubing over the top of the Eco Pro Wacky Weight where you slip the hook through then hit it slightly with a heat gun - should hold the hook better . *If this (or any technique) can make a soft stick bait last longer wacky rigged - then you can afford to use better softplastic stick worms .
Chance_Taker4 reply :
I actually use Vicious Limit-A-Tor. They come in the popular colors but I find they sell out very quickly from Vicious' website. I do also use Snack Daddy Snack Stick and occasionally Dingers.
ChrisD46 reply :
I vowe one day to try the BizBaits (sponsor) soft stick worms (previous poster posted a video) ... I figure if they went through the trouble to make a video on the design / quality of their soft stick worm then they might b worth a try ... As for BPS Stik-O's : They have issues with color consistency as in a bag of green pumpkin you might ge two or three shades of green pumpkin ! Otherwise the Stik-O's are ok and I don't find their action anything to write home about ... I would also recommend looking at the Netbait Salt Sticks where you may find them as they are not bad and seem more the weight of a senko + loaded with salt .
Chance_Taker4 reply :
I have one issue with Senkos and that's price. When I first started using them they were $5.99 then they went up to $6.49 now for a 5" Senko they are $7.49. To me that is too steep for the lack of durability.
tcbass reply :
On 8/29/2017 at 10:51 PM, ChrisD46 said:Looks like the presentation would be affected based on your pictures : hook position , line , etc. *If you are going to go the tubing route - why not drill a hole through the center and insert your hook through that way wacky style ?
I think the tubing softly grips the Senko in a way that lets it slide left and right, thus not tearing it.
I think if you put a hole in the middle the Senko would tear.
boostr reply :
I use the SK Ochos cause they are cheaper than Senkos. They feel and seem to fall the same.
Comfortably Numb reply :
Make you own sticks. Any softness and sink rate you want.
govallis reply :
Caught 8 LM within a hour with a Shim E, 6 of them were within 15 minutes, a Senko won't do any better.
I always wacky rig Shim E, with a Goody Ouchless polyband (Model 71291). This way one stick lasts forever and fish don't see the transparent polyband at all. I also have one Senko rigged this way in my bag, just in case if a Shim E won't get a bite.
I always Texas rig Yum Dinger, because of its unique slot. I use two springs, one at the top where the hook goes in and one at the meddle where the hook goes out. I also use a small piece of thick rubber where the hook goes out the first time at the top, to keep the Dinger straight. This way, a Dinger also last forever.
Dinger is lighter than Senko, 0.39 vs. 0.4 oz, but not so noticeably. I fish it exactly the same way I use a Senko - raise the rod tip and drop, repeat. Sometimes I add a few twitches while raising the rod tip.
Shim E is even more lighter than Senko, 0.36 oz, falling significantly slower. So I have to force myself to wait longer before I raise the rod tip. With Senko and Dinger, I just raise and drop in a natural speed, without having to slow down.
r83srock reply :
I have confidence in any of them. The senko is hard to beat, but I think the softest is the wave worm tiki stick. I use dingers, old gander house brand, just tried the shim e stick and like it too. I probably never need senko style stick baits again as I have a large Rubbermaid full, but when I do buy them now I try different brands, usually the cheapest I can get. I use a couple basic colors and that’s it.
fishwizzard reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 2:21 PM, Bluebasser86 said:The Strike King Ocho is great, but not any more durable than a Senko.
Yea, but it seems like the Ochos go on sale far more often!
EGbassing reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 9:52 AM, Sword of the Lord said:My favorite lure is the Senko. I especially love them wacky rigged. However, even with zip ties, I'm burning through them so quickly. I could have much better gear than Lightning Rods and Abu reels from Wal-Mart and DSG if I wasn't spending so much on lures alone. So, which do you prefer: Yum Dingers or Strike King Shim-E-Sticks?
Try a weighted wacky rig head with an elaztech worm. It has a really unique fall/action.
Plus, the elaztech lasts for dozens of fish.
J Francho reply :
YUM Dinger 30 packs are available:
https://www.yumbaits.com/yum-bulk-dinger
This day is brought to you by black 5" Dingers:
From the anual Take a Soldier Fishing day on Lake Oneida. Note the camera boat in the background. Pretty cool that we got this shot cast to catch on the TV show.
Brett's_daddy reply :
How about these...https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Frenzy_Baits_Wacky_Saddle_Replacement_O-Rings_25pk_/descpage-WACORG.html?from=Google&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnNvaBRCmARIsAOfZq-0pMlkVfLyNhJppWdqugMEpUP5zNmiSXKyU8LYmEhT11qDlaKLDT5caAtA3EALw_wcB.
Dieselguy416 reply :
I've started using the clear tubing method and putting some mend-it on the senko before sliding the tubing on. I did catch 13 on the same senko last week. Which actually surprised me before that I was get 2-3 fish using 2 crossed o-rings.
tcbass reply :
On 8/24/2017 at 8:28 PM, TOXIC said:Great Color!! Yamamoto's top selling color is 297. I can tell you every Senko comes out of the same mold (5 inch). Now there are a few different 5 inch Senko types (Slim Senko, Pro Senko, etc.) that are different thicknesses. I've been Pro-Staff for 15 years and have watched them being made.
Why would tournament guys use knock-offs in practice and not the real thing?
I'd think they could afford the real deal or get them free/discounted?
J Francho reply :
On 7/25/2018 at 2:46 AM, tcbass said:
Why would tournament guys use knock-offs in practice and not the real thing?
I'd think they could afford the real deal or get them free/discounted?
For the first, I never understood. Figure what they're biting, and catch them on that.
For the second, not all tourney guys are sponsored.
Glenn reply :
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I'm a fan of Senko, why? It has been shown many times with Senko just let them sit in the water and do nothing still get bite. With that said recently I tried BPS brand and these do catch fish too.
I save Senko for when friends and families wanna try a hand on bass, but myself I use BPS especially on weighted wacky rig.
1201vilbig reply :
Looks like the Riot Baton in this video comparison is something to consider.
burrows reply :
Senko seems to have a better action but I have probably cought an equal amount of fish on the dingers and probably use them more often. I just recently picked up a pack of the max scent stick bait but didn’t have any luck.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/24/2018 at 9:00 PM, fishwizzard said:Yea, but it seems like the Ochos go on sale far more often!
Very true, I bought 2 dozen bags of Ochos for $2 a bag this morning at Academy. Don't remember ever seeing a bag of Senkos for $2 in a store.
govallis reply :
On 7/24/2018 at 11:22 PM, Brett's_daddy said:How about these...https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Frenzy_Baits_Wacky_Saddle_Replacement_O-Rings_25pk_/descpage-WACORG.html?from=Google&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnNvaBRCmARIsAOfZq-0pMlkVfLyNhJppWdqugMEpUP5zNmiSXKyU8LYmEhT11qDlaKLDT5caAtA3EALw_wcB.
Too expensive and not as good as Goody Polybands.
On 7/25/2018 at 1:12 AM, Dieselguy416 said:I've started using the clear tubing method and putting some mend-it on the senko before sliding the tubing on. I did catch 13 on the same senko last week. Which actually surprised me before that I was get 2-3 fish using 2 crossed o-rings.
O-rings can cut into Senko, I no longer use them. I no longer use tubes neither.
TOXIC reply :
On 7/25/2018 at 2:46 AM, tcbass said:
Why would tournament guys use knock-offs in practice and not the real thing?
I'd think they could afford the real deal or get them free/discounted?
Purely cost and they use the knock offs as a locating bait. When the tournament $$ is on the line, they want to be able to catch more fish or get the more finicky ones to bite using the Senko. When locating, they will also clip the ends of the hooks off so that they don't "stick" their fish. Also, my guide fee was reduced or discounted when taking out tournament fishermen who just wanted to put together a pattern. I was basically their Uber driver. If they hired me at full guide price, I would have furnished them the baits as part of the fee.
Yamamoto is very, very selective on their pro-staff. Not like a majority of the plastics who have different tiers of sponsorship and hundreds of pro-staffers. If I had to guess, it is because they don't need the promotion.
buzzbaiter83 reply :
I like Dingers. I like the softness of the bait. I mostly Neko Rig them. I like other stick baits like Senkos and Shim-E-Sticks too. I haven’t noticed a difference in fish catching ability between them so I stick with the cheap Yums.
FryDog62 reply :
As a user of Yamasenkos for years... yes they are still great. However I have switched to two others that I catch as many fish, have a stronger scent, are more durable, and cheaper:
•Kalins WAC-O-Worm
•Maxscent General
I also use the sleeves from Cadman’s Custom Jigs and get twice the life out of the Senkos
burrows reply :
On 7/26/2018 at 4:22 AM, FryDog62 said:
•Maxscent General
Yeah that’s the pack I bought the general black and blue but I only tried it once fishing clear water super clear water, no luck but I’ll be throwing it again soon.
Oh and I’m no fan of the shimee sticks wouldn’t waste my 3 bucks on them I rather fish yum.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 7/24/2018 at 1:32 AM, govallis said:Dinger is lighter than Senko, 0.39 vs. 0.4 oz, but not so noticeably. Shim E is even more lighter than Senko, 0.36 oz, falling significantly slower.
What colors did you weigh here? I have a package of Shim E Sticks(green pumpkin) and a package of Dingers(watermelon) sitting right beside me, and the Shim E Sticks weigh ~.6g more than the Dingers.
govallis reply :
All 5". The Shim E is watermelon red flack. Dinger is green pumpkin. Senko is green pumpkin+ watermelon.
The Shim E had a very strong smell and I think fish love the smell.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 7/27/2018 at 10:24 PM, govallis said:All 5". The Shim E is watermelon red flack. Dinger is green pumpkin. Senko is green pumpkin+ watermelon.
The Shim E had a very strong smell and I think fish love the smell.
Yeah, I've noticed that as well. Reminds me of licorice. I have a quick question about the bands you use. Do they need to be the Ouchless bands? I'm guessing they're made out of a different material.
Right now I'm using rubber grommets. A lot harder and a bit wider than O-rings or those Goody bands, but I can't imagine them ever cutting through the worm
govallis reply :
I bought the polybands long time ago. It is perfect for 5" Senko including Dinger and Shim E, but too large for smaller Senko such as 3" ones. I tried recently some smaller polybands from local stores such as Walmart. The strange thing is, these smaller polybands all melt with Senko! So, as long as they won't melt with Senko, any polybands are fine.
Even polybands will make cuts on Senko after some days of use, so I cut a piece of heat-shrink tube and wrap it on Senko, as showing in the attached photo. This should also solve the melting issue of smaller polybands.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 7/28/2018 at 11:25 AM, govallis said:I bought the polybands long time ago. It is perfect for 5" Senko including Dinger and Shim E, but too large for smaller Senko such as 3" ones. I tried recently some smaller polybands from local stores such as Walmart. The strange thing is, these smaller polybands all melt with Senko! So, as long as they won't melt with Senko, any polybands are fine.
Even polybands will make cuts on Senko after some days of use, so I cut a piece of heat-shrink tube and wrap it on Senko, as showing in the attached photo. This should also solve the melting issue of smaller polybands.
I came back to this thread to talk about exactly this issue. I bought Goody Ouchless 71291 bands from Wal-Mart and they definitely melt when left on my Senkos, or at least my watermelon Dingers. Your picture shows an older packaging so I wonder if they're simply made differently now.
Either way I've settled on using grommets. They're stiffer than a O-rings or these bands, they're more expensive, and they're a little wider than using two O-rings, but I put the hook through them and the whole thing is extremely secure. My bait hasn't ripped even a little so until I can find a more elegant solution, this is what I'm going with.
moguy1973 reply :
The Goody bands I buy are rubber and not poly and I haven't had an issue with them melting.
I bought this same package of multi size ones a few years ago and I have tons left. I use the small and medium sized ones for my wacky rigs and I use the larger size for my daughters ponytails.
govallis reply :
On 8/3/2018 at 4:42 PM, MisterDeadeye said:Your picture shows an older packaging so I wonder if they're simply made differently now.
Chinese are well known to make a product cheaper and cheaper, so I believe they now use cheaper material that melts. The package in photo was bought 10 years ago.
On 8/3/2018 at 8:05 PM, moguy1973 said:The Goody bands I buy are rubber and not poly and I haven't had an issue with them melting.
I bought this same package of multi size ones a few years ago and I have tons left. I use the small and medium sized ones for my wacky rigs and I use the larger size for my daughters ponytails.
I tried rubber band but I lost the senko when the fish bit the tail or head and I set hook. Are these Goody tougher than normal rubber bands? I'll give them a try because the new poly bands melt.
moguy1973 reply :
On 8/7/2018 at 12:50 PM, govallis said:
I tried rubber band but I lost the senko when the fish bit the tail or head and I set hook. Are these Goody tougher than normal rubber bands? I'll give them a try because the new poly bands melt.
They are pretty tough. I can usually get about 7-8 fish using them before they end up cutting the worm in half. If that starts to happen I just rehook the worm through the other side that isn't tearing and I get a few more fish out of it before it's totally in half.
Mind you I haven't tried these on genuine GY Senkos. I typically use Dingers or Stick-O's which are a little more durable than Senkos
burrows reply :
I know the thread is about dingers and shimmees and I’ll adresse that to conclude the matter very frankly, dingers are better..!!! Now to what I wanted to give an honorable mention to is the just started using Berkly power bait max scent, general that stick bait is the best hands down stick bait for me!!!! now it produces when nothing produces. And if you haven’t tried it don’t more fish for me.????
govallis reply :
On 8/7/2018 at 8:13 PM, Burrows said:I know the thread is about dingers and shimmees and I’ll adresse that to conclude the matter very frankly, dingers are better..!!! Now to what I wanted to give an honorable mention to is the just started using Berkly power bait max scent, general that stick bait is the best hands down stick bait for me!!!! now it produces when nothing produces. And if you haven’t tried it don’t more fish for me.????
If you like scent, give the Shim E a try. It is the most productive, next to it is Dinger and Senko. I have all the three versions of Power Minnow, only one fish so far ever, while each and every time the Shim E can get me about 10 within an hour. I rig it with nose hooking and wacky; For texas, I use Dinger. Only $2.49 for 7 in Walmart.
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