Thoughts on Tokyo rig? 2024
Texan89 reply :
As the title says, what are y’alls thoughts on the new Tokyo rig they showed off at Icast? Personally I’m interested in how different if any the action is compared to just a plain Texas rig with a loose or pegged tungsten on it. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Tokyo_Rig_2pk/descpage-VMCTR.html. Here is the link if you haven’t seen them.
bh91 reply :
Drop shot?
SlappinKraken reply :
There's some locals around me that like using a similar piece of tackle I linked below, so I'm looking forward to trying a Tokyo rig.
http://realfishbait.com/index.php/real-fish-bait/big-shot-rig-punching.html
ImThatGuy reply :
Looking forward to trying this. Will get a few once in stock.
OkobojiEagle reply :
jika rig...
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Team9nine reply :
Rolled my eyes at it the first time I saw it pre-ICAST...opinion hasn't changed 
Hurricane reply :
All these rigs..... Still on the ned rig and staying.
Russ E reply :
looks like another solution, looking for a problem.
Munkin reply :
On 8/11/2018 at 10:43 PM, Russ E said:looks like another solution, looking for a problem.
They have to come up with new things to catch fishermen but I completely agree.
Allen
Chris at Tech reply :
What I find most interesting about a rig like this is the conversation happening a few threads over about how line shy fish are. And here we are looking at a rig with all that hardware... So which is it -- they're line shy or they don't care?
A-Jay reply :
On 8/12/2018 at 8:37 PM, Chris at Tech said:What I find most interesting about a rig like this is the conversation happening a few threads over about how line shy fish are. And here we are looking at a rig with all that hardware... So which is it -- they're line shy or they don't care?
That was my initial thought as well Chris.
Along that same line of thinking, sort of surprised we haven't seen an 'all fluorocarbon' A-Rig.
A-Jay
Chris at Tech reply :
On 8/12/2018 at 9:02 PM, A-Jay said:That was my initial thought as well Chris.
Along that same line of thinking, sort of surprised we haven't seen an 'all fluorocarbon' A-Rig.
A-Jay
Not exactly an A-rig but like this?
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Longas_Baits_4_Wire_PDL_Head/descpage-4PDLH.html
A-Jay reply :
On 8/12/2018 at 10:02 PM, Chris at Tech said:Not exactly an A-rig but like this?
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Longas_Baits_4_Wire_PDL_Head/descpage-4PDLH.html
I guess - sort of a 'finesse' A-Rig
If there could ever be such a thing.
A-Jay
FishDewd reply :
Just buy a spinshot worm hook. Same thing with less hardware. VMC makea them.
BassWhole! reply :
Thoughts on Tokyo rig?
I have no use for that.
I can tie that with stuff I already have in the garage for pennies.
LMB guys will buy anything.
BassThumb reply :
It might be useful when slime covers the rocks and sand.
Bankbeater reply :
To me it looks like a drop shot with some extra hardware added to it.
J Francho reply :
On 8/11/2018 at 9:31 PM, Team9nine said:Rolled my eyes at it the first time I saw it pre-ICAST...opinion hasn't changed
Yep. An expensive Jika rig.
Team9nine reply :
On 8/13/2018 at 9:30 PM, J Francho said:Yep. An expensive Jika rig.
Exactly... ????
Mobasser reply :
I won't be throwing this one.
crypt reply :
not my cup of tea.........
FishTank reply :
I will stick with a drop shot or spin shot rig.
islandbass reply :
If I were a fish, I know I wouldn’t be biting on this one. Looks to be a variation of the drop shot.
Perhaps it is intended for heavier weights, larger baits, a more powerful rod and an angler who is an OCD and adamant about avoiding line twist.
I’m neither against it or for it, and no I didn’t read anything on yet nor ever even heard of this. but you can bet people will be buying them.
J Francho reply :
It's an over-complicated Jika rig. The purpose is to let the weight drag the bait straight down through the weeds. Thing is, there's already simpler, and FAR less expensive Jika rigs out there already. This one looks like a weed magnet. I guess it allows much heavier weight to be added, but I can do that myself:
Comfortably Numb reply :
On a side note JFranco, you a Diabetic? I have a Medtronic pump but use the Dexcom CGM.
J Francho reply :
On 8/15/2018 at 6:32 PM, Comfortably Numb said:On a side note JFranco, you a Diabetic? I have a Medtronic pump but use the Dexcom CGM.
Yes. I don't use any CGM, though. It's too much a PITA, and I test 6-10 times a day anyway.
Raul reply :
On 8/11/2018 at 10:20 AM, Texan89 said:As the title says, what are y’alls thoughts on the new Tokyo rig they showed off at Icast? Personally I’m interested in how different if any the action is compared to just a plain Texas rig with a loose or pegged tungsten on it. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Tokyo_Rig_2pk/descpage-VMCTR.html. Here is the link if you haven’t seen them.
My thoughts: that contraption is going to hang up in an eyeblink when you throw it where there are rocks.
Stein Lambert reply :
I read about this idea and had to try it. I’m not a huge fan of drop shots I know they are supper effective just not that huge of a fan.
I made my own in the garage with tackle I already owned. I tryed it out today and was blown away with how effective this set up is. Hands down one of my new favorite rigs. I put it in my Fish tank to see the action and the bAit had great action. Stays about the ground. Cast great and no line tangle. All in all amazing. Try it out
A-Jay reply :
On 10/4/2018 at 10:18 AM, Stein Lambert said:I read about this idea and had to try it. I’m not a huge fan of drop shots I know they are supper effective just not that huge of a fan.
I made my own in the garage with tackle I already owned. I tryed it out today and was blown away with how effective this set up is. Hands down one of my new favorite rigs. I put it in my Fish tank to see the action and the bAit had great action. Stays about the ground. Cast great and no line tangle. All in all amazing. Try it out
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Would not call that rig a drop shot replacement.
The hardware & the heavy hook make it something else.
So they were biting in your fish tank then ?
A-Jay
Bluebasser86 reply :
I think maybe "effective", might not have been the best wording for a bait that hasn't seen any action other than a fish tank. We sold a ton of baits when I worked at Cabela's that looked great in the little display tanks, but almost all of them were baits that caught fishermen and not many fish. Enticing, maybe, effective, yet to be seen.
TOXIC reply :
All these heavier weights attached directly to the hook eye seems to me would allow the fish to throw them easier. At least with the dropshot there's a lot of slack in the line that will absorb (or intensify depending on how the line is positioned when the head shakes start) the shock and allow the hook to stay planted or not wallow out the penetration hole.
J Francho reply :
On 10/4/2018 at 9:25 PM, TOXIC said:All these heavier weights attached directly to the hook eye seems to me would allow the fish to throw them easier.
On my home made rigs, I go up to an ounce and a half trolling pencil weight. Since the weight is usually in their mouth, it isn't an issue. I'd compare it to a heavy, flipping jig. I think you're right about the rigs with the longer, rigid wire with a heavy weight, though.
Choporoz reply :
First I saw this, I immediately thought of the walleye bottom bouncer trolling rigs in my tackle closet. I haven't trolled for bass, but I have to think they could be effective. Anyone ever try them?
J Francho reply :
On 10/4/2018 at 10:08 PM, Choporoz said:Anyone ever try them?
Not for bass. They work well for walleye.
Choporoz reply :
Agreed. I think I might just throw one in the boat. May not be a fall season rig. But, there are plenty of summer days when I find active bass at a certain depth (deeper than the weeds) throughout a lake. Instead of casting worms, I may be able to troll this along, say, 12 foot contour lines.
Not sure why I always troll for walleye, but have never tried it for bass....sort of a mental thing
J Francho reply :
Trolling for bass is a good technique on large waters. We'd troll Lake Ontario with cranks, at depths where we found smallmouth previously. If we caught three on a pass, it was anchor up time, and drop tubes.
claya reply :
Seth Feider explained that it's good for flipping grass with silty bottoms. The bait follows the weight through the grass. Once it's on the bottom the weight is in the silt and the bait stays above it.
J Francho reply :
That is exactly how a Jika rig works.
fishwizzard reply :
On 10/4/2018 at 10:08 PM, Choporoz said:First I saw this, I immediately thought of the walleye bottom bouncer trolling rigs in my tackle closet. I haven't trolled for bass, but I have to think they could be effective. Anyone ever try them?
I caught my first bass of size on a Crawler harness rigged up with a gulp worm. I was casting and retieving it as I didnt know any better.
Sam reply :
I saw the video when Ike introduced this rig to us a few months ago.
So I went out and found some piano wire at a retired piano teacher's basement which was a disaster plus the fact I could not find the size Ike suggested. The piano wire was also too heavy and hard to bend.
So I found the wire at Jann's Netcraft and made a few of these rigs.
Threw them only once to see how they would perform so I had no bites or misses.
I may fish two tournaments this month and give them a try.
Will be interesting and so far, I am not sold on the rig until I throw it in combat!
J Francho reply :
On 10/5/2018 at 3:48 AM, Sam said:I may fish two tournaments this month and give them a try.
Why would you try anything you've never had success with in a tournament?
Sam reply :
On 10/5/2018 at 3:53 AM, J Francho said:Why would you try anything you've never had success with in a tournament?
Good question.
Fishing a lake and then a tidal river so when the bite slows down I think I may give it a try.
Not 100% sure when I will throw it but I plan to throw it.
After all, making them is not easy.
Will let you know what happens.
J Francho reply :
It's a rig I will never bother with. It doesn't solve any fishing problem, is not a new presentation, and only presents more complication to a rig I already use and works well for me.
Buuuuut, try it, and let us know how you did. 
The Short Fisherman reply :
looks like a copy of a dropshot to me
Gundog reply :
On a side note, if you take the wire end and attach a swivel and small willow leaf blade you could have a cheaper swimbait flash hook only without the weight on the hook. You might have to wrap the wire around the belly of the hook and bend it downward. As for the Tokyo rig itself, I can't be bothered with it. I already have more stuff than I need.
BassWhole! reply :
On 10/5/2018 at 3:53 AM, J Francho said:Why would you try anything you've never had success with in a tournament?
Because the prize money needs to come from somewhere....
Back when we were cashing FLW striper checks, I'd love to see guys the week before loading up on tackle they had no experience with.
J Francho reply :
On 10/5/2018 at 8:26 PM, reason said:Because the prize money needs to come from somewhere....
I've done my share of donating. 
Fishingmickey reply :
On 8/13/2018 at 3:22 PM, BassThumb said:It might be useful when slime covers the rocks and sand.
This^^^ When you have a couple of inches of algae growth on the bottom of the lake (especially mud bottom lakes) and you can keep you bait out of the slime. Walleye fishermen have had "walking" rigs for years. Ike also had I believe a segment on Bass University about modified punching/jika rigs for that same purpose of keeping your bait off of the bottom out of the slime.
Regarding the line shy issue... IMHO It is how the bait is presented. If they think it is food they'll eat it.
Fishingmickey
J Francho reply :
We've always just used a drop shot for that, even before it was called a "drop shot."
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