Suspending Lipless Crank Baits 2024
fin reply :
I’ve always been curious about them, but never tried one. I don’t understand how they work. To get below the surface, most lures use a lip, or they sink by weight, but they just keep on sinking. I understand suspending cranks, but I don’t understand how a lure can get below the surface and stay at a certain depth without a lip.
I want one anyway. Who makes a good one?
Way north bass guy reply :
Quite a few years ago I won a big pike tournament, over 100 boats, by running a suspending rattle trap and stopping it over the top of big cabbage beds. My partner and I were literally drifting through a huge bay that had about 30 other boats in it, and we were the only guys catching fish. For a while I didn’t even make a cast, just kept culling pike as my partner caught one after another on every cast!
The concave part of the head in front of the line tie acts like a lip to make it dive down, the rattle traps we were using only went a couple feet down but it was the perfect depth as the cabbage topped off just below the surface. They are a great bait to cover water with, but you can stop them for a second or two whenever you want and there’s no danger of sinking into the weeds.
PhishLI reply :
On 3/5/2019 at 10:09 PM, fin said:Who makes a good one?
Ima Suspending Vibration Lipless Crankbait
TW has them. 9.99$
Catt reply :
Bill Lewis makes a Float-N-Trap & use to make a Red Zone Trap that suspended.
Cotton Cordell makes the Suspending Super Spot is not a sinking bait, instead staying within 3 feet of the surface even when paused.
A-Jay reply :
The Sebile Flatt Shad SU77 ~ Is 1/2 oz and suspends about 12-24 inches under the surface. It really will not sink or dive much deeper than that. The 77 SU is designed for fishing over submerged weedbeds and through the tops of brush. This one's great to work through shallow brush or shallow grass cover. It will not sink or dive too deep, and is a real sweet model that's best for working shallow cover in situations where the other models could get hung up more often. Plus, you can pause and suspend it right in front of a fish's face where you suspect one's hiding in the cover.
They are unfortunately a discontinued bait and can be a little tricky to find.
E-Bay may be a good place to start a search. When you find one (or more) Buy it !
(I have a secret stash that I guard quite seriously)
A-Jay
primetime reply :
I love the Sebile SU 77 and it has caught me some good fish when the condition are right. I purchased about 5 lots on ebay back when they were discontinued and won a bunch of auctions, so I have a bunch and glad I do....
You can pitch them into tight spots and they suspend perfectly most of the time. The one issue I have had is I had to change hooks on a bunch of them, and now they do not suspend the same way, even taking off a split ring causes them to swim different or float slowly which is not bad.
I like to throw a suspending Lipless around the spawn or flats and will just let them soak in areas where I think fish are, or fish them above grass and not have to worry about snags etc....
Cotton Cordell has the Suspending Spot which is actually a good bait at times as well.
The one lipless crankbait I have never had luck with is the floating traps which I still think have potential...Just hard to cast and I never tie them on, but I like the idea...
Bluebasser86 reply :
I have some redzone traps. They're deadly at times early in the year in shallow water over grass.
fin reply :
So not a lot of options, apparently. Just the Ima, and maybe Cotton Cordell and Sebile (if they can be found).
I saw an article about making them out of wood and it's tempting me. On the plus side, I could make something totally custom, on the negative side, balancing it would probably be a nightmare.
FCPhil reply :
Ima suspending vibration trap is good!
fin reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:41 PM, FCPhil said:Ima suspending vibration trap is good!
I believe it, but it would end up costing me about $17 after shipping. A lot for me.
I'm going to keep my eye out at some of the local places, or wait for a sale, or make one, which would probably end up costing me more but it would be fun.
kenmitch reply :
I have this addiction, obsession, whatever you want to call it for lipless crankbaits. Posting these kind of threads just feeds it more. I planned on trying out new offerings this season as I've already purchased rod and reel combos and lot's of other offerings to go with them.
Currently I'm the guy on the lake flinging a lipless fishing for bass, who pretends to be fishing for the fish of a thousand casts!
Thanks guys!
Currently on google looking for suspending lipless crankbaits!
A-Jay reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:18 AM, kenmitch said:I have this addiction, obsession, whatever you want to call it for lipless crankbaits. Posting these kind of threads just feeds it more. I planned on trying out new offerings this season as I've already purchased rod and reel combos and lot's of other offerings to go with them.
Currently I'm the guy on the lake flinging a lipless fishing for bass, who pretends to be fishing for the fish of a thousand casts!
Thanks guys!
Currently on google looking for suspending lipless crankbaits!
OK, Mr. Obession -
@kenmitch
pm me your mailing address and I'll send you ONE - and One only.
After that, you're on your own.
A-Jay
Jigfishn10 reply :
I didn't realize Lewis Rattle Traps stop making them. I guess you can go old school and take a sinking one and drill it out and take ballast out until it suspends? Or you can buy the Ima Suspending Lipless Crankbait for 10 balloons, whatever works.
On 3/7/2019 at 12:33 AM, A-Jay said:OK, Mr. Obession -
@kenmitch
pm me your mailing address and I'll send you ONE - and One only.
After that, you're on your own.
A-Jay
Way to "guard them quite seriously"...
Actually that's a really nice thing you just did. 
Fishingmickey reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 9:35 PM, fin said:So not a lot of options, apparently. Just the Ima, and maybe Cotton Cordell and Sebile (if they can be found).
I saw an article about making them out of wood and it's tempting me. On the plus side, I could make something totally custom, on the negative side, balancing it would probably be a nightmare.
See if you can find some of the Bill lewis floating traps and use some suspend dots to weight them.
FM
kenmitch reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:33 AM, A-Jay said:OK, Mr. Obession -
@kenmitch
pm me your mailing address and I'll send you ONE - and One only.
After that, you're on your own.
A-Jay
Thanks again A-Jay!
A-Jay reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 5:30 AM, kenmitch said:Thanks again A-Jay!
From one rattle bait freak to another - You're Welcome.
Here's your bait . . . 
I upgraded the hooks and also tossed in a surprise 'bonus' bait.
You'll have to wait until delvery (Saturday) to see that one.
Enjoy
A-Jay
kenmitch reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 8:31 AM, A-Jay said:
From one rattle bait freak to another - You're Welcome.
Here's your bait . . .
I upgraded the hooks and also tossed in a surprise 'bonus' bait.
You'll have to wait until delvery (Saturday) to see that one.
Enjoy
A-Jay
Wow! That's very generous of you. I wasn't expecting something as nice as that one. Let alone a bonus bait to top it off!
The color looks like it'll be a winner in my local lake. The depth range of it looks to be perfect for a lot of the areas I like to fish in. There's lot's of submerged cover a couple of feet below the surface in my local lake. Making long casts between targets I often don't know what's there until it's too late. I'll get my baits back, but I feel I spoil the spots when I retrieve them.
I can't wait to give that bait a good workout!
Thanks Again!
Ken
May the bass gods reward you with a new PB this season!
dgkasper58 reply :
I cannot wait to run home and check if the 1 sebile flat shad I have is suspending (I didn't know these were even invented).
Bait monkey here I come!
This site is amazing! (and terrible)
kenmitch reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 12:26 AM, dgkasper58 said:I cannot wait to run home and check if the 1 sebile flat shad I have is suspending (I didn't know these were even invented).
Bait monkey here I come!
This site is amazing! (and terrible)
I did see a UK seller on ebay that has some available at a reasonable price if not. Didn't look to have any color that would work for me at least.
Jonas Staggs reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 7:18 AM, Catt said:Bill Lewis makes a Float-N-Trap & use to make a Red Zone Trap that suspended.
Cotton Cordell makes the Suspending Super Spot is not a sinking bait, instead staying within 3 feet of the surface even when paused.
Where'd you get that
PhishLI reply :
6th Sense has their version out now. Quake suspending lipless crankbait.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 7:44 AM, PhishLI said:6th Sense has their version out now. Quake suspending lipless crankbait.
https://www.harpethriveroutfitters.com/collections/lipless/products/6th-sense-fishing-quake-suspending-lipless-crankbait
The Bait Monkey says - You're Welcome.
A-Jay
Jonas Staggs reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 7:44 AM, PhishLI said:6th Sense has their version out now. Quake suspending lipless crankbait.
On 2/11/2020 at 7:51 AM, A-Jay said:https://www.harpethriveroutfitters.com/collections/lipless/products/6th-sense-fishing-quake-suspending-lipless-crankbait
The Bait Monkey says - You're Welcome.
A-Jay
seems the cotton cordells are hard to get a hold of now. at least the suspending ones....they have a lot of them at walmart, but they come in a ton of different colors......all those other colors are hard to find as well. I can only find places carrying the same ones from walmart. may have to give another brand a go.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Quickly becoming a big fan of the Suspending Quake.
fin reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 12:59 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Quickly becoming a big fan of the Suspending Quake.
I was going to ask you for a review, but those picture's are worth a thousand words. Have any problems with them swimming right? Do they cast okay? How deep can you get it to go?
Jermination reply :
They're amazing and i don't like to hear people talking about them lol check out the IMA one's as well
fin reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 11:57 PM, Jermination said:They're amazing and i don't like to hear people talking about them lol check out the IMA one's as well
It's like they're too hard to find for them to become popular, so I don't think you have to worry about that. I don't think most people would like them, compared to a regular lipless. They take getting used to.
dgkasper58 reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:17 AM, fin said:They take getting used to.
Just wondering why?
I just bought two yesterday---Thanks guys (that bluegill pattern looked too good to pass up for this spring). I would imagine just ripping it out of weeds and letting it sit there.
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:17 AM, fin said:It's like they're too hard to find for them to become popular, so I don't think you have to worry about that. I don't think most people would like them, compared to a regular lipless. They take getting used to.
yeah you have to order them online as far as i know. havent seen them in stores in 10+ years since the old cotton cordell suspending super spot was around. I think they're a lot more popular than you realize, theyre absolutely fantastic to work as a jerk bait over grass. "cough cough" if you go to chickamauga in the next 2 months i wouldnt leave home without one
JediAmoeba reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 7:51 AM, A-Jay said:https://www.harpethriveroutfitters.com/collections/lipless/products/6th-sense-fishing-quake-suspending-lipless-crankbait
The Bait Monkey says - You're Welcome.
A-Jay
What is wrong with you? Why did I click on this thread? Why didnt I know suspending lipless cranks existed? Why don't I have any suspending lipless crankbaits???
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:29 AM, JediAmoeba said:What is wrong with you? Why did I click on this thread? Why didnt I know suspending lipless cranks existed? Why don't I have any suspending lipless crankbaits???
because you like to fish lots and catch little!
JediAmoeba reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:30 AM, Jermination said:because you like to fish lots and catch little!
These will help me catch MORE little fish? Sign me up, I am the foremost expert in targeting little fish.
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:41 AM, JediAmoeba said:These will help me catch MORE little fish? Sign me up, I am the foremost expert in targeting little fish.
i dont catch too many little ones on the 6th sense plug(they weigh 7/8 oz) i was just yanking your chain quoting your signature lol
dgkasper58 reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:43 AM, Jermination said:i dont catch too many little ones on the 6th sense plug(they weigh 7/8 oz) i was just yanking your chain quoting your signature lol
I thought they were 1/2 oz? 6th sense has them at 1/2oz while TW has them at 7/8oz.
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 1:07 AM, dgkasper58 said:I thought they were 1/2 oz? 6th sense has them at 1/2oz while TW has them at 7/8oz.
7/8ths
@reelChris reply :
I have to ask - if they suspend when given slack and rattle when pulled, are they really that different from shallow running jerk baits?
scaleface reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 12:29 AM, JediAmoeba said:What is wrong with you? Why did I click on this thread? Why didnt I know suspending lipless cranks existed? Why don't I have any suspending lipless crankbaits???
There are floating ones also . You must have a couple of those .
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 1:50 AM, @reelChris said:I have to ask - if they suspend when given slack and rattle when pulled, are they really that different from shallow running jerk baits?
nope. other than the bait profile. however they don't foul on every piece of vegetation in the water like a jerkbait
PhishLI reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 1:50 AM, @reelChris said:I have to ask - if they suspend when given slack and rattle when pulled, are they really that different from shallow running jerk baits?
The IMAs don't suspend like a typical SP jerk. It's more of a slow sink depending on water temp.. This gives you options as to how you can fish it, especially over weeds and shrubbery, because it doesn't sink like a rock. Great bait. My 3rd best producer last winter and early spring. I bought a pile for this year.
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 4:01 AM, PhishLI said:The IMAs don't suspend like a typical SP jerk. It's more of a slow sink depending on water temp.. This gives you options as to how you can fish it, especially over weeds and shrubbery, because it doesn't sink like a rock. Great bait. My 3rd best producer last winter and early spring. I bought a pile for this year.
yep. water looked like ketchup from the floods this past weekend and was around 49. I usually throw those on medium moderate rod and the fish more or less hook themselves when they choke it
fin reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 1:50 AM, @reelChris said:I have to ask - if they suspend when given slack and rattle when pulled, are they really that different from shallow running jerk baits?
The other difference is they don't move like a jerk bait, they move like a lipless when swimming/jerking.
On 2/12/2020 at 12:21 AM, dgkasper58 said:Just wondering why?
I just bought two yesterday---Thanks guys (that bluegill pattern looked too good to pass up for this spring). I would imagine just ripping it out of weeds and letting it sit there.
With some brands, they don't sink fast when they hit the water, so if you start to retrieve too soon, they'll just flop sideways. It's just very different from normal lipless, it's more like a shallow jerkbait.
On 2/12/2020 at 1:07 AM, dgkasper58 said:I thought they were 1/2 oz? 6th sense has them at 1/2oz while TW has them at 7/8oz.
I think the Quake 70 is 1/2 and the Quake 80 is 7/8.
Jermination reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 4:05 AM, fin said:The other difference is they don't move like a jerk bait, they move like a lipless when swimming/jerking.
With some brands, they don't sink fast when they hit the water, so if you start to retrieve too soon, they'll just flop sideways. It's just very different from normal lipless, it's more like a shallow jerkbait.
I think the Quake 70 is 1/2 and the Quake 80 is 7/8.
far as i know the quake 80 is the only suspending model sold. the quake 70 is actually 5/8 BTW. i would appreciate someone to prove me wrong and send me a link to purchase some 1/2oz suspending!
fin reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 4:18 AM, Jermination said:far as i know the quake 80 is the only suspending model sold. the quake 70 is actually 5/8 BTW. i would appreciate someone to prove me wrong and send me a link to purchase some 1/2oz suspending!
I probably got it wrong. I looked at them a few weeks ago and I was just going from memory (and I forgot my memory is untrustworthy).
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 11:26 PM, fin said:I was going to ask you for a review, but those picture's are worth a thousand words. Have any problems with them swimming right? Do they cast okay? How deep can you get it to go?
No issues at all with them swimminig, diving, or casting. I'm fishing them in pretty shallow water but I'd guess they're getting down about 3' when I try getting them down.
GreenPig reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 1:39 AM, Jigfishn10 said:I didn't realize Lewis Rattle Traps stop making them. I guess you can go old school and take a sinking one and drill it out and take ballast out until it suspends? Or you can buy the Ima Suspending Lipless Crankbait for 10 balloons, whatever works.
Way to "guard them quite seriously"...
Actually that's a really nice thing you just did.
You could add Suspend dots/strips to a floating Rattle Trap and make a custom slow float, suspend, or slow sink.
galyonj reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 1:12 AM, Jermination said:7/8ths
Per 6thsense they're 1/2 oz. The website does note they'll come in the same box as the regular sinking Quake 80 – the only difference is the sticker that says it's a suspending model.
https://6thsensefishing.com/collections/quake-80-suspending
Jermination reply :
On 2/13/2020 at 6:13 AM, galyonj said:Per 6thsense they're 1/2 oz. The website does note they'll come in the same box as the regular sinking Quake 80 – the only difference is the sticker that says it's a suspending model.
https://6thsensefishing.com/collections/quake-80-suspending
Nevermind I just reread your post. Still going to weigh it later will post results lol
Wut? The box says 7/8ths. I have a small scale somewhere around here I’ll weigh it later tonight
I’m an idiot
A-Jay reply :
On 2/13/2020 at 7:06 AM, Jermination said:Nevermind I just reread your post. Still going to weigh it later will post results lol
Wut? The box says 7/8ths. I have a small scale somewhere around here I’ll weigh it later tonight
In my hand ~ The 70's feels heavier than the suspending 80's ~
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A-Jay
dgkasper58 reply :
I missed you already said this too. Please disregard!
"In this case, 6th Sense makes two models of the Quake 80, a 7/8 oz sinking, and a 1/2 oz suspending. The confusion comes in that they both use the same box, and the specs are for the sinking model. I apologize for the confusion."
They should be 1/2 oz on the scale (I do not have one).
Bluebasser86 reply :
This would make sense because I didn't think there was any way the suspending bait felt like it was nearly an ounce.
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 2/15/2020 at 3:26 PM, Bluebasser86 said:This would make sense because I didn't think there was any way the suspending bait felt like it was nearly an ounce.
Is make sense 1/6 sense? LOL
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 3/5/2019 at 10:09 PM, fin said:I’ve always been curious about them, but never tried one. I don’t understand how they work. To get below the surface, most lures use a lip, or they sink by weight, but they just keep on sinking. I understand suspending cranks, but I don’t understand how a lure can get below the surface and stay at a certain depth without a lip.
I want one anyway. Who makes a good one?
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/6th_Sense_Quake_Suspending_Lipless_Crankbait/descpage-QSUS.html
WVU-SCPA reply :
Gave one a trial run yesterday. Overall I believe it will be a very productive bait and can really produce in certain situations.
A few notes;
Run depth was about 3ft and would get there fairly quick. The bait will float subsurface until cranked to depth. Water temp was 39 and it would suspend or slowly sink in shallower water.
Ran true after pausing or slight jerks. It did roll to its side burning it but that's not its purpose. Plenty of other traps to pick from if burning a trap is the ticket.
Hooks were sharp and didn't see a need to replace them.
Looking forward to seeing what it will produce as its a unique presentation.
fin reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 9:30 PM, WVU-SCPA said:Gave one a trail run yesterday. Overall I believe it will be a very productive bait and can really produce in certain situations.
A few notes;
Run depth was about 3ft and would get there fairly quick. The bait will float subsurface until cranked to depth. Water temp was 39 and it would suspend or slowly sink in shallower water.
Ran true after pausing or slight jerks. It did roll to its side burning it but that's not its purpose. Plenty of other traps to pick from if burning a trap is the ticket.
Hooks were sharp and didn't see a need to replace them.
Looking forward to seeing what it will produce as its a unique presentation.
That's the Quake 80 you're talking about?
Preytorien reply :
Man dangit - why do I come to this site? LOL - just pulled the trigger on the Quake. Thanks Clayton!
galyonj reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 9:30 PM, WVU-SCPA said:Hooks were sharp and didn't see a need to replace them.
I think that's my favorite thing about their hard plastic lures. Not many brands that I don't feel hinky about the hardware out of the package, but I don't worry about my 6thsense stuff.
WVU-SCPA reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 9:41 PM, fin said:That's the Quake 80 you're talking about?
That is correct.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 9:44 PM, Preytorien said:Man dangit - why do I come to this site? LOL - just pulled the trigger on the Quake. Thanks Clayton!
Tizi reply :
The 6th Sense suspending lipless are out of stock on TW and show expected fill date into fall of 2020! China impact of the virus.
IndianaFinesse reply :
Sheesh, now I’ve gotta buy some of these ????????♂️
Crankin4Bass reply :
My order of Rapala Subwalk came in. Now I can’t wait for the ice to melt.
Sorry wrong thread
PhishLI reply :
On 2/24/2020 at 3:15 AM, Tizi said:The 6th Sense suspending lipless are out of stock on TW and show expected fill date into fall of 2020! China impact of the virus.
Don't sweat it! IMA Suspending Vibe 70
On 2/26/2020 at 9:15 AM, Crankin4Bass said:My order of Rapala Subwalk came in. Now I can’t wait for the ice to melt.
I threw mine in daylight today for the first time. Wait until you see how you're able to work this one. It's nice how it turns around after the twitch-pause. It's more of a suspending glide than a subsurface spook, IMO, and it casts like a bullet. Killa.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 2/24/2020 at 3:15 AM, Tizi said:The 6th Sense suspending lipless are out of stock on TW and show expected fill date into fall of 2020! China impact of the virus.
I guess that’s slightly better than contracting the virus.
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