Catt inspired this thread.
Have any of you ever conducted your own scent vs no scent experiment. I for one think it helps but I am not sure it makes a lot of difference when it comes to bass. Bass are sight feeders. The feed by sight and feel. I do think scent makes a difference but I am not completely positive. It is possible that scent doesn't make much difference. Now with other fish like sharks or catfish they use there sense of smell as a primary sense. I know scent makes a difference with those species. Can anybody show an example of an experiment or experience where scent made a noticeable difference. I would think it would help the most with a slow moving presentation like a worm or jig. And I would think it would make little difference on a reaction type presentation like a spinnerbait or crank.
What do you guys think or know about it?
I dont think it makes a spot of difference.
I never really use scents anymore.
The smell of powerworms turns me on though.
QuoteThe smell of powerworms turns me on though.
phew, I thought I was the only one.
I did my own for about 2 years with different scents. My conclusion was that it makes no difference in the amount of strikes i got. However, it did make a huge impact on how long a fish holds a lure before it spits it out. Like stated above, mostly in slow moving lures. I only use them in the winter now and only on T-Rigs/Jigs when it is harder for me to feel the subtle bites. Buys me a few more seconds to react!
BTW, I LOVE Power Bait too......................................
if they are hitting I won't use it. if I cant get a bite I will slather on the megastrike and I will usually pick up a few. now with muskies I think it makes a huge difference here is why I think that. for 6 years I fished my lake knowing it had muskies but I had never caught one. I found mega strike and started using it. that year I picked up 13 muskies with the biggest at 40 inches on a bandit 100 of all things. my thought is that muskies often follow a bait before committing and when that mega strike is leaving a scent trail I am certain that is what is getting them to bite. it has been a couple years since I have been using megastrike and I have so far caught 32 muskies. and coincidentally my PB had mega strike on it as well.
Quoteif they are hitting I won't use it. if I cant get a bite I will slather on the megastrike and I will usually pick up a few. now with muskies I think it makes a huge difference here is why I think that. for 6 years I fished my lake knowing it had muskies but I had never caught one. I found mega strike and started using it. that year I picked up 13 muskies with the biggest at 40 inches on a bandit 100 of all things. my thought is that muskies often follow a bait before committing and when that mega strike is leaving a scent trail I am certain that is what is getting them to bite. it has been a couple years since I have been using megastrike and I have so far caught 32 muskies. and coincidentally my PB had mega strike on it as well.
Complete that experiment: Lose the MS for a chunk of the season. If you again fail to boat a single muskie, (or very few), then you might be onto something.
As to Matt's question, I've never used it. Just never got around to it. Keith Jones claimed that a lot substances that pass for fish attractants fish aren't even capable of detecting. And finding bass repellents wasn't so easy either. The one thing he said bass noticeably disliked was soap.
Nothing scientific about this. IMHO the best you could hope for with scents, bass might just hold onto the bait a little longer...
skillet
Can't answer this until I personally try it. But I'm leaning towards -- no, it's just a marketing scheme.
QuoteNothing scientific about this. IMHO the best you could hope for with scents, bass might just hold onto the bait a little longer...skillet
Been experimenting...that's what i would say from what i gather.
I make my own using vaseline & crayfish scent. ;D
i only use scents as lube for swimbaits and frogs (Canyon Plastics 4.5'' frog) a plus is that the lube doesn't smell unnatural so i guess you can say that i use scents not to add taste to the lure but as to mask the lube scent , does that make sense ???
This is why I tend to believe in scents. In humans smell and taste work together. I assume bass are similar. Now I definitely could be wrong but I think fish, specificaly bass do use their sense of taste. I think they use taste more then smell but they probably do use smell a little. I have heard many anglers claim that fish hold the bait longer with scent applied. I also have experienced this. I do think that the smell of a slow moving bait will help a little but I think taste helps more. I have seen footage of a bass biting a jig and the angler had no idea he was bit the fish spit the bait and he never knew it.. After seeing this, I think fisherman using scent/attractant may believe they are getting more bites because they are aware of more bites.
I have also seen bass reject food after tasting it. So they were interested enough to try it but something was negative about the taste. Tadpoles come to mind. I have fed bass bullfrog tadpoles and they almost never kept them down and they rarely tried them again. these same bass would eat a small bullfrog but not the tadpole. And toads, forgetaboutit! I have never seen a bass eat a toad and not spit it out.
One more example. I make my own scents using the actually prey fish species. One day I was throwing a prototype trout swimbait with my secret trout sauce on it. I watched a big (around 10lbs) bass come out from under a dock from a distance and charge the bait. The fish hesitated right when it got to the bait and then it nipped the tail. It slowed for a second and then charged and swallowed the bait. I ended up loosing the fish >
I theorize that the fish was unsure about the bait. I was fishing a lake where swimbaits are heavily fished so I am sure this fish had been caught before. I think when it nipped the tail it was tasting it. When it tasted like a real trout, it ate it.
So I don't know how much bass use their sense of smell or even how much they can smell, but I believe they use their sense of taste alot. I also believe taste and smell overlap.
BTW I really like that sweet stink of power worms.
QuoteQuoteThe smell of powerworms turns me on though.
phew, I thought I was the only one.
What... the only one to turn jay on?? ;D
Here are some other replies:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1192120855
8-)
The most I've done for experimentation into whether it is better or not is using it on bedding fish. Sometimes it seems that they really respond to the foreign odors invading the nest and I also noticed that they tend to crush the bait rather well instead of hit and spit.
I'd say yes, scents do get more bites. One day I was pitching a senko in the pockets of lily pads without success, then I dipped the same senko in the clear JJ's Magic and landed 3 fish right before weight in.
joe
This Spring I tried Megastrike for the first time. I was fishing in my canal with no success. I applied some Megastrike to my Finesse Worm, and ten seconds later, I was setting the hook on a two pound largemouth. Each of my next three casts produced fish also. I then put a fresh worm on and cast it out without Megastrike.......nothing. I applied Megastrike, and caught a fish................I'm convinced.
Falcon
Scientifically, I can't make a determination. For me it's about CONFIDENCE. Not only in scents, but also in the actuall lures that you are using. Do I use scents..... Yup, I'll dap some Mega Strike on plastics, cranks, jigs, and spinnerbait skirts..... Does it work.... Absolutely, it hooked me!
I am a firm believer in scents in slow presentaion baits. I use Bang Crawfish scent and do hnestly notice a difference. Me and a friend will both be fishing the same exact lure out of the same boat and I use the Bang and he doesnt and I will catch more fish. I can also cast 4 times or so into one spot and get no bites then cast useing the Bang crawfish and get a bite. I do notice alot more junk fish bites as well.
QuoteThis Spring I tried Megastrike for the first time. I was fishing in my canal with no success. I applied some Megastrike to my Finesse Worm, and ten seconds later, I was setting the hook on a two pound largemouth. Each of my next three casts produced fish also. I then put a fresh worm on and cast it out without Megastrike.......nothing. I applied Megastrike, and caught a fish................I'm convinced.Falcon
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This has also happened to me numerous times. It may not have been an attrative but I am convinced it produced more of a strike to feel, possibly the bass liked the taste more. If nothing else it sure provides confidence. Give it a try!
I don't believe that scents attract bass, I do think it may make them hold a bait a little longer, but I am not even sure about that.
Two things you do not want on your bait are sun screen and insect repellent.
Matt to answer your question, I have have never tried an actual experiment. Other than, on days when I fished for a while with little or no luck, I have put scent on my baits and it has never made a noticeable difference in the results.
I'm pretty sure it was Wayne P. who did an experiment using sun screen. Actually put the stuff on his bait and it didn't seem to make a difference...
skillet
I use them. For no other reason other than to mask the bad scents that may be on my hands. It gives me more confidence and that is a good thing.
i havnt cought a single fish since i bought the powerbait scent stuff.
however , i do smoke while i fish and i think it does mask those scents well.
QuoteThis is why I tend to believe in scents. In humans smell and taste work together. I assume bass are similar. Now I definitely could be wrong but I think fish, specificaly bass do use their sense of taste. I think they use taste more then smell but they probably do use smell a little. I have heard many anglers claim that fish hold the bait longer with scent applied. I also have experienced this. I do think that the smell of a slow moving bait will help a little but I think taste helps more. I have seen footage of a bass biting a jig and the angler had no idea he was bit the fish spit the bait and he never knew it.. After seeing this, I think fisherman using scent/attractant may believe they are getting more bites because they are aware of more bites.I have also seen bass reject food after tasting it. So they were interested enough to try it but something was negative about the taste. Tadpoles come to mind. I have fed bass bullfrog tadpoles and they almost never kept them down and they rarely tried them again. these same bass would eat a small bullfrog but not the tadpole. And toads, forgetaboutit! I have never seen a bass eat a toad and not spit it out.
One more example. I make my own scents using the actually prey fish species. One day I was throwing a prototype trout swimbait with my secret trout sauce on it. I watched a big (around 10lbs) bass come out from under a dock from a distance and charge the bait. The fish hesitated right when it got to the bait and then it nipped the tail. It slowed for a second and then charged and swallowed the bait. I ended up loosing the fish >
I theorize that the fish was unsure about the bait. I was fishing a lake where swimbaits are heavily fished so I am sure this fish had been caught before. I think when it nipped the tail it was tasting it. When it tasted like a real trout, it ate it.
So I don't know how much bass use their sense of smell or even how much they can smell, but I believe they use their sense of taste alot. I also believe taste and smell overlap.
BTW I really like that sweet stink of power worms.
Interesting observations. Sounds plausible. I suppose the trick is getting a substance the bass can detect, like, make it stick to a lure long enough, then has enough shelf life to be practical. Which ones do this?
I've also heard that bass don't like bullfrog tadpoles, and noticed there can be more of them in bass ponds than I'd expect.
That sunscreen post was within the year -on Lake Erie I believe. They were dropping tubes to smallies on sonar. As I remember it, the sunscreen outfished those without. Statisitically it wasn't anything to write home about, but it at least showed that the sunscreen did not repel the bass.
I also remember a very old experiment done or reported by Homer Circle in F&S (I think) in which they soaked one group of plastic worms in gasoline, and found no difference in catch rate.
WT*??? are you serious Paul? Gasoline had no affect on the catch rate?
Mottfia
All Ive got to say is come watch some of the demonstrations we do at the sports shows we attend every year. Watch and learn. Ask Russ *** from Yamamoto what we do with and without MegaStrike. Believe me seeing is believing.
Scent or no scent...it makes ZERO difference. I have messed around with it a lot with all the big selling and popular ones and never noticed a difference.
QuoteAll Ive got to say is come watch some of the demonstrations we do at the sports shows we attend every year. Watch and learn. Ask Russ *** from Yamamoto what we do with and without MegaStrike. Believe me seeing is believing.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!
I find MegaStike to be an effective scent and outstanding lubricant
for both hard baits and soft plastics.
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I only recently started to use Megastrike and the first day out, I wasn't using it as I forgot I had it to try. No hits at all for a couple of hours. I then remembered I had it with me and after applying, the very next couple of casts I had a nice 1.5-2lbs'er. I then proceeded to outfish my partner the rest of afternoon (who did not use it). I'm a believer.
I also agree with it's value as a lubricant.
Bobby do you have any videos of the demonstartions you can post?
I would like to see them.
Paul, I use Megastrike,Procure scents and my own. I fish for many differnt species and I have found that scent helps more on some then others. I am a firm beliver in fish holding on longer because of taist.
QuoteBobby do you have any videos of the demonstartions you can post?I would like to see them.
Paul, I use Megastrike,Procure scents and my own. I fish for many differnt species and I have found that scent helps more on some then others. I am a firm beliver in fish holding on longer because of taist.
i also use PRO-CURE scents , the gel and the butter in trout flavor , a must for swimbaiters .........
Because of it's popularity on here I have been using Megastrike all season. Sorry but it is about the same as any other "scent". It has not increased my strike or catch rate.
I think it makes them hold on longer.I like using scents to help lube my soft plastics to make them go threw the timber a little better.
No.
Ok i guess no one has tried JJ's Magic then cause that stuff flat out works!!!!!!!
I'm not really sure if scents make a difference in actually attracting fish. But I still use Megastrike to lubricate my soft swimbaits (Hudds, Mattlures bluegill, Lake Fork etc.) I also use JJ's clear on all of my Soft plastics. At the very least it will mask the Human odor. Maybe even get the bass to hold on 1-2 sec. longer to give me a chance to set the hook.
QuoteOk i guess no one has tried JJ's Magic then cause that stuff flat out works!!!!!!!
I use JJ's on all my jig trailers, pre-marinated and securely
repackaged! On all other soft plastics and most hard baits,
MegaStrike. I really like the Magic, but MegaStrike is much
more "user friendly".
8-)
That sunscreen post was within the year -on Lake Erie I believe. They were dropping tubes to smallies on sonar. As I remember it, the sunscreen outfished those without. Statisitically it wasn't anything to write home about, but it at least showed that the sunscreen did not repel the bass.
I also remember a very old experiment done or reported by Homer Circle in F&S (I think) in which they soaked one group of plastic worms in gasoline, and found no difference in catch rate.
QuoteThat sunscreen post was within the year -on Lake Erie I believe. They were dropping tubes to smallies on sonar. As I remember it, the sunscreen outfished those without. Statisitically it wasn't anything to write home about, but it at least showed that the sunscreen did not repel the bass.I also remember a very old experiment done or reported by Homer Circle in F&S (I think) in which they soaked one group of plastic worms in gasoline, and found no difference in catch rate.
QuoteThanks for that information, I learn something every day. I read the book Knowing Bass by Dr. Keith Jones and he stated that the only two smells that actually repel bass are sun screen and insect repellent. It is a very informative book but apparently it is not one hundred per cent accurate. I don't think we will ever completly understand these critters called bass.
You are right on the DEET (insect repellent) and PABA (sunscreen)...but there is more. Read pages 84-85.
You are also right that we will never know all there is to know about bass. And what we do know is full of qualifications.
QuoteBobby do you have any videos of the demonstartions you can post?I would like to see them.
Paul, I use Megastrike,Procure scents and my own. I fish for many differnt species and I have found that scent helps more on some then others. I am a firm beliver in fish holding on longer because of taist.
Thanks. One of these days I'll have to get around to playing around with it myself.
With plastics though, the bass often hold the bait so long that I have gone barbless bc they may ingest them. Not sure I want to add to that. Then again, they do spit a jig pretty quick -even with pork. Not sure why that is: weight I'm assuming. I wonder if an attractant would have them old a jig longer?
QuoteNo.
X 2...I even croon , talk and on occasion, pretend to ignore the existence of bass in the hope they will prove me wrong....that does me as much good as scents....and costs me nothing...
I think scent makes a difference. I am sold on the Yum stuff. If I have a bag of stuff that begins to dry out I will spray Yum in the bag.
I have a video here that was taken in one of the bass tanks. One video show a bass actually swallowing a bait with MegaStrike on it and the other video in the same tank shows a bass coming back and hitting a bait about 7 times after the bait is pulled away. Believe me you can see it registering with the bass - it wants it not for the reaction strike but for the taste. Pretty wild video-it was taken with a camcorder at one of the shows and has to be converted to be shown on the web. i will see what i can do
My theory is that the smell doesnt make a lot of difference, maybe a little. but I think the taste makes a huge difference. I also think we as fisherman get a lot more bites then we know of. When a bass holds the bait longer we will detect these bites and belive we are getting more bites with scent then without. In any case I think it helps put more bass in the boat. I also like the lube factor with swimbaits.
Bobby please post up what you got!
Quote...I also think we as fisherman get a lot more bites then we know of. ...
Definitely true there.
You are making a good case for the taste and lubricant properties of "attractants".
Bass are sight feeders for sure-they react to what they have been conditioned to eat since they were hatched and genetically for generations. I believe and that's why I spent so much time researching that bass and other fish use smell and taste more than we think.I have stated many times that there are zero proofs and /or absolutes when dealing with live creatures. From what I have seen over the years in the wild/and in captivity-bass are highly attuned to using smell to trigger strikes. Two years ago at ICAST I demonstrated using baits with and without Megastrike . No hooks no line no rods -just throwing different baits into the tank with Mega and without.The bass would swallow baits with it and expel them without. I would toss heavier ones so they got to the bottom(just pieces ow plastics/tubes ect) and the bass would home in on them and find them amongst the gravel on the bottom. I want to see if I can convert the tapes I have to format -so we can view them here- I will see how we can do it-THEN you tell me what you think.
Seeing is believing and we obviously have a few non-believers!
If you can produce the tapes, I think that would be
a TREMENDOUS marketing tool. For those of us
that know your reputation, that would be the icing
on the cake!
8-)
QuoteSeeing is believing and we obviously have a few non-believers!
Well, I guess if I was involved in the marketing/selling of such super bass savvy smelly potions, I would be praising it to the heavens...'don't go fishing without some' scenario. However I am not (at least not any more) so I tend to err on the side of cynicism when it comes to tackle/aids that more often then not are designed to catch fishermen rather than fish....Having said that, I am open to being convinced.......now, I have some nice waterfront in Florida, though dampness could be a problem....
I use it for two purposes first as a lubricant because I fish in grass a lot and it helps my plastic baits slide through easier. I use Fish Formula II or Baitmate (clear) with a ½ oz of pure anise oil added; this is to mast any odor my plastic may have pick up.
Just like with lure color I've seen times when scent made absolutely no difference at all and I've seen times when scent make all the difference in the world.
I know several guys that use WD-40 on all their plastics with excellent results
QuoteI use it for two purposes first as a lubricant because I fish in grass a lot and it helps my plastic baits slide through easier. I use Fish Formula II or Baitmate (clear) with a ½ oz of pure anise oil added; this is to mast any odor my plastic may have pick up.Just like with lure color I've seen times when scent made absolutely no difference at all and I've seen times when scent make all the difference in the world.
I know several guys that use WD-40 on all their plastics with excellent results
The oldtimers swore by WD 40 at least in my area of the country.
WD40 has been used for years as a"FISH ATTRACTANT" Do you know why??/ Its main base is fish oil. It was developed years ago to aid againg rust corrosion during WWII. The product itself is truley great-BUT for its intended purpose. It is a petroleum base and pretty much outlawed for spraying into waterways.So that is the reason it is used- FOR the fish oil- One day someone used it caught some fish and now its a "FISH ATTRACTANT". When I first started on this project I worked with a chemist to find out what are in fish.HMMM proteins-Then I said lets find out whats making up those proteins HMMM amino acids. Lets find out why the fish need amino acids and which ones they need HMMM .Anyway I started that back in the late 80's early 90's. If all of you that are reading DR Jones books -take a look at the copyright date- Then look at some of the research and findings of amino acid use. There are companies in Europe that are now dabbling with the use of aminos- I had these theories almost 20 years ago. Still to this day you cannot have control or absolutes with living creatures especially simple minded creatures. they do what they want when they want.All i have ever said about our product was when they inhale it-they will hold on to it and eat it, which gives you better strike detection.That fish is not going to swim across the lake or even 10 feet away because you have mega on it. the job of the "lure" and the angler is to get them to the bait. My job is to get them to eat it and hold on to it to produce-increase- higher catch and strike ratios. i have always sais and claimed from day one -if you dont think that our product increases your catch ration-send it back for a full refund.Gotta go to work now-building spinnerbaits. thats the next subject to rant on. C Ya's
What a Fish story!
Myth: WD-40 contains fish oil.
Fact:
Consumers have told us over the years that they have caught some of the biggest fish ever after protecting their fish hooks and lures with WD-40. We believe this legend came from folks assuming that the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain't so.
WD-40 Company has taken steps to respect and conserve the environment, and encourages its users to do the same. While WD-40 can be used to help protect fishing equipment from rust and corrosion, WD-40 Company does not recommend using WD-40 to attract fish.
http://www.wd40.com/about-us/myths-legends-fun-facts/
MSDS WD-40
http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf
I think it makes as much of a difference as color selection... minimal at best.
QuoteIts main base is fish oil. It was developed years ago to aid againg rust corrosion during WWII. The product itself is truly great-BUT for its intended purpose. It is a petroleum base and pretty much outlawed for spraying into waterways.
Catt's right. Besides, the 2 highlighted above are mutually exclusive; ie. it can't be both fish oil based and petroleum based. The latter is the correct one - it is petroleum based.
I only use scents on things like soft plastics. If it's something like a senko where you need to let them bite for a few seconds, I think it makes a difference. I've had fish hit a soft plastic and spit it out quickly, than after applying scent those type of strikes stopped. On fast moving baits like crankbaits I never use it.
With respect to sight-feeding game fish, I've never believed that scent makes a lick of difference.
My wife tried using scent a couple of years ago, and since I never use any fish scent, we had a friendly competition.
She no longer uses scent ;D
Roger
QuoteMSDS WD-40
http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf
Hmm 90% or more hazardous ingredients by weight.
Let's put that in that water!!!
I had read about WD 40 years ago. What I had read was that one of its main ingrediants was fish oil which was used to displace water..Petro being the base or carrier - My time frame might have been off a bit but like I said it was developed for rust/ corrosion prevention. I dont know what they are using now but then it was stated that the original formlas ingreadiant was fish oil. With technology today they could many other- more advanced /sophistacated ingrediants that are environmentally friendly. My original statement was just saying that WD 40 was a called a "Fish Attractant"
This was something like what was stated in an article years ago-I just happened to find this when I searched and look at the last PS. The one I had seen was years ago and was from an independant company that wrote a history or bio of WD40 ===WD 40 Uses
Friday, September 18, 2009
WD 40 Uses
1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
2. Removes road tar and grime from cars.
3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.
4. Gives floors that 'just-waxed' sheen without making them slippery.
5. Keeps flies off cows.
6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
7. Removes lipstick stains.
8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
9. Untangles jewelry chains.
10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.
11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
12. Keeps ceramic/terra cotta garden pots from oxidizing.
13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on vehicles and doors in homes.
18. It removes black scuff marks from the kitchen floor! Use WD-40 for those nasty tar and scuff marks on flooring. It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as hard to get them off.
Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
19. Bug guts will eat away the finish on your car if not removed quickly! Use WD-40!
20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
21. Lubricates gear shift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on riding mowers.
22. Rids kids rocking chairs and swings of squeaky noises.
23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to open.
24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well as vinyl bumpers.
26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
27. Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans
28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for easy handling.
29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running smoothly.
30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
31. Removes splattered grease on stove.
32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape..
36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve arthritis pain.
37 Florida 's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills and bumpers.'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York , WD-40 protects the Statue of Liberty from the elements.
39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you will be catching the big one in no time. Also, it's a lot cheaper than the chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose.
Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for fishing are not allowed in some states.
40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and stops the itch..
41. WD-40 is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray on the mark and wipe with a clean rag.
42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage daughter has washed and dried a tube of lipstick with a load of laundry, saturate the lipstick spots with WD-40 and rewash. Presto! The lipstick is gone!
43. If you sprayed WD-40 on the distributor cap, it would displace the moisture and allow the car to start.
P. S. The basic ingredient is FISH OIL.
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Do y'all even click on the links I provide?
The WD-40 Company states they never used fish oil period!
All righty boys, Catt gets the last word.
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