Ned Rig is a Bass Killer? Huh? 2024
hoosierbass07 reply :
I don't know what to think about this video. Is it click bait? What do you think? I think he's smoking something. This video came out of left field unexpected though. Crazy. I don't fish the Ned rig that often enough to know if any of the bass I've caught have swallowed the plastic. I figured the video would be about what is the most effective and could say lethal fishing lure - the soft stick bait Senco/Stick-o/Yum-Dinger.
MN Fisher reply :
1) If you know it's going to die - TAKE IT HOME AND EAT IT.
2) 'Wretching' the hook out? Simple solution - proper tool to get deep hooks out.
Tim Kelly reply :
I saw that vid and thought much the same thing. Senkos must be a much higher suspect for deep hooking crimes. At least with a ned you're reasonably tight to the bait most of the time, so if you're moderately competent you should notice something's going on. Senkos spend a lot of time with very slack line and it's easier to not notice when a fish has picked it up. I suppose ned baits being smaller might mean they're swallowed a bit quicker, but it's not a big issue in my experience. Not sure what motivated him to create the video really. Fishing MLF now maybe he sees his future fishing more neds and he's getting a punch in before he starts? Odd.
A-Jay reply :
I'll admit, I watched this one ~ in it's entirety.
I am sorry I did.
Two words come to mind; Hype & Drama.
Hype, often defined as Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion.
Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material.
An advertising or promotional ploy
Something deliberately misleading; a deception
To publicize or promote, especially by extravagant, inflated, or misleading claims
Drama as defined by the Ubran Dictionary, seems most appropriate here.
A way of relating to the world in which a person consistently overreacts to or greatly exaggerates the importance of benign events. Typically "drama" is used by people who are chronically bored or those who seek attention. People who engage in "drama" will usually attempt to drag other people into their dramatic state, as a way of gaining attention or making their own lives more exciting.
A-Jay
rtwvumtneer6 reply :
Never had a fish steal my Ned plastic. Keepers and a dab of glue, and if they get the bait they're likely to get the hook. Most are hooked where I can get it with my fingers. @MN Fisher hit it on the head, when it does happen.
I know I've accidentally harvested more than a couple fish with senkos... Both from a hook and from them stealing my plastic (longer term).
And, if it is click bait he did a good enough job to get you to share it @hoosierbass07 lol ????
hoosierbass07 reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 5:36 AM, rtwvumtneer6 said:
And, if it is click bait he did a good enough job to get you to share it @hoosierbass07 lol ????
Yeah, it is good click bait. Who would go after the Ned Rig? Seriously, the Ned Rig seems to be all about conservation: using small hooks, crushing the barb down, only using half a senko, using braid because it lasts for years, using low cost and old fishing equipment, releasing the bass right after you catch it. But, I can sort of see where it might be really bad for bass considering soft stick baits are so easily swallowed by bass. Still, I would rather throw a Yum-Dinger than anything else.
jbmaine reply :
I've deep hooked more bass on weightless Senkos then on ned rigs. Even then , if you know what you're doing, getting deep hooks out is not that hard ( most of the time).
I don't think anyone wants to see a fish suffer, and we do what we can to keep that from happening, but I don't worry about it enough to stop trying to catch them.
Jig Man reply :
I think I will just play my BS card here.
12poundbass reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 5:33 AM, A-Jay said:Drama as defined by the Ubran Dictionary, seems most appropriate here.
A way of relating to the world in which a person consistently overreacts to or greatly exaggerates the importance of benign events. Typically "drama" is used by people who are chronically bored or those who seek attention. People who engage in "drama" will usually attempt to drag other people into their dramatic state, as a way of gaining attention or making their own lives more exciting.
A-Jay wins the post of the day! ????
I unfortunately watched it too last week. Before he gets too far into his rant he lets everyone know he’s not against it and won’t stop using it. What’s the point of the video then?
Then a few times he talks about (This isn’t verbatim it’s been a week) how there are no facts or data to dispute these numbers. HELLO! There’s no data for his numbers, he’s just blowing smoke and creating clickbait and to get people talking about it so more watch it. Kinda like I am right now, d**n he got me again. Doh!
A-Jay reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 6:06 AM, 12poundbass said:A-Jay wins the post of the day! ????
I unfortunately watched it too last week. Before he gets too far into his rant he lets everyone know he’s not against it and won’t stop using it. What’s the point of the video then?
Then a few times he talks about (This isn’t verbatim it’s been a week) how there are no facts or data to dispute these numbers. HELLO! There’s no data for his numbers, he’s just blowing smoke and creating clickbait and to get people talking about it so more watch it. Kinda like I am right now, d**n he got me again. Doh!
Doesn't he want viewers to believe this paper contains his data ?
Seems very official.
#weaksalad
A-Jay
BoatSquirrel reply :
With the title of this foolish video, the nonsense begins. Great message from a guy with a lot of eyes on him having just moved to the Bass Pro Tour- we are killing bass by the thousands. Brilliant. Undoubtedly Mr. Duh-dly has documented proof of this carnage! I have caught in excess of 50 fish on a ned in December alone and have had only one eat it deep. What a chump.
DSTN reply :
Well hype and drama are the keys to youtube growth right?
Not sure about the rest of you savage ned rig throwing bass killers but I'd put the ned rig down at or near the bottom of deadliest baits, at least in my experience.
12poundbass reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 6:13 AM, A-Jay said:Doesn't he want viewers to believe this paper contains his data ?
Seems very official.
#weaksalad
A-Jay
Upon second look at his data sheet I see the corners are perfectly square so those numbers are legit. ????
Smokinal reply :
Didn't watch a second of it. So take my response with a grian, but I fish a TRD on a Ned a lot, and almost all of my fish are hooked in the upper lip/corner mouth and I literally haven't lost a single bait in years. They are hooked more gently than any other technique and all swim away fine.
Underlying motive for sure.....
Bird reply :
I too did not watch video but grasp the concept.
(1) Never once have I deep hooked using the Ned.
(2) while the Ned rig is fun and sometimes prevents a skunk.....by no means is it the holy grail of bass fishing techniques, not close.
Internet has good guys and sometimes guys full of sh**.
stratoliner92 reply :
Somebody needs to give this guy a tin foil hat????????????????????
Mobasser reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 5:33 AM, A-Jay said:I'll admit, I watched this one ~ in it's entirety.
I am sorry I did.
Two words come to mind; Hype & Drama.
Hype, often defined as Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion.
Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material.
An advertising or promotional ploy
Something deliberately misleading; a deception
To publicize or promote, especially by extravagant, inflated, or misleading claims
Drama as defined by the Ubran Dictionary, seems most appropriate here.
A way of relating to the world in which a person consistently overreacts to or greatly exaggerates the importance of benign events. Typically "drama" is used by people who are chronically bored or those who seek attention. People who engage in "drama" will usually attempt to drag other people into their dramatic state, as a way of gaining attention or making their own lives more exciting.
A-Jay
Well put A-Jay. All of us have a deep hooked bass sometimes, it's part of fishing. This guy is playing it up for all its worth. If the Ned rig is that much of a fish killer, well, don't fish it anymore!
Russ E reply :
That was a waste of 15 minutes. The only thing I see dying is his youtube channel. Here is a proper response to his video.
TnRiver46 reply :
That guy is crazy as h*#^! Haha. I have seen my buddies deep hook some with Ned rig but we were fishing 25 feet of water in the current and they were using 1/16 oz heads. I’ve also seen a bass deep hooked on any bait they Have ever eaten from time to time. And that is a scientific fact! Queue the anchorman meme ......
TriStateBassin106 reply :
What is this guy talking about... I mean I personally have started staying away from stick baits, except the NED rig, if I ever fish a 5 inch senko type bait it's usually wacky style with o rings attached, I rarely fish this style of bait but when I am fishing senkos I always make sure to throw the ripped ones in the TRASH... not back into the water but the TRASH...
Yes, bass will re-eat your stick baits and possibly die from it. always make sure to throw out your soft plastics once they're ripped or heavily damaged.
Glenn reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 7:50 AM, Bird said:I too did not watch video but grasp the concept.
(1) Never once have I deep hooked using the Ned.
(2) while the Ned rig is fun and sometimes prevents a skunk.....by no means is it the holy grail of bass fishing techniques, not close.
Internet has good guys and sometimes guys full of sh**.
^^ This ^^
Unfortunately, the Googans have bred a LOT of fishing Youtubers that play the "shock", "Hype", and "drama" card to extremes. The only shocking thing about this video, is that it's David Dudley. My respect for him just plummeted.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
It worked. Look how many people are talking about the video...
FishinBuck07 reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 11:47 AM, Glenn said:^^ This ^^
Unfortunately, the Googans have bred a LOT of fishing Youtubers that play the "shock", "Hype", and "drama" card to extremes. The only shocking thing about this video, is that it's David Dudley. My respect for him just plummeted.
Glenn you are correct! I was also shocked it came from David Dudley, I have learned quite a bit from watching his videos. Don't know if I will pay much attention to him after this!
NYWayfarer reply :
I don’t lose Ned rigged baits in fish or gut hook them.
My Ned rigged casualties are snags and cash for more jig heads. RIP discretionary income ????
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 11:47 AM, Glenn said:The only shocking thing about this video, is that it's David Dudley. My respect for him just plummeted.
Agreed. I was subscribed to his channel and enjoyed his videos, but that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever watched.
I don't have any scientific evidence to back any of this up, but I can tell you that I'm in the heart of Ned rig country. It's often a necessity here because our lakes are terrible and fish densities are low. I don't suspect there's many anglers above the weekend warriors that don't carry and probably throw a Ned a little most every trip. If a Ned rig was killing that many fish, there would be lakes with no fish left in them here.
I can also say that I've been fishing a Ned rig alot since I was introduced to it by one of Ned's cronies. It's shocking how few fish swallow or are deep hooked on that little bait. I gut hook far more fish on a wacky rig (one of Dudley's favorite baits ironically enough), than I do a Ned rig. Not only that, if a fish is hooked deep, with the right tools and knowledge, that tiny hook comes out of a gullet much easier than a EWG worm hook or treble hook and the fish can be quickly released.
scaleface reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 4:45 AM, MN Fisher said:1) If you know it's going to die - TAKE IT HOME AND EAT IT.
2) 'Wretching' the hook out? Simple solution - proper tool to get deep hooks out.
What tool is this?
Oregon Native reply :
Wow....once again Bass resource saved me from watching an !@#$ perform and talk. Thank you .... thank you.
MN Fisher reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 7:55 PM, scaleface said:What tool is this?
IRWIN VISE-GRIP 13.25-in Straight Compound Long Reach Pliers
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-VISE-GRIP-13-25-in-Straight-Compound-Long-Reach-Pliers/1000236059?store_code=2628
frogflogger reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 11:47 AM, Glenn said:^^ This ^^
Unfortunately, the Googans have bred a LOT of fishing Youtubers that play the "shock", "Hype", and "drama" card to extremes. The only shocking thing about this video, is that it's David Dudley. My respect for him just plummeted.
David Dudley,the guy who went out and "stuck" fish to prevent others from catching them? He should have been banned from tournaments a long time ago. It's guys like him that give tournament fishing a bad name. He deserves no respect.
RAMBLER reply :
Good golly! That was 15 minutes I could have spent walking the dog, watching reruns of Gunsmoke, cooking oatmeal, etc., etc., etc. For how many years and years have fishermen talked about fishing with no barb on the hook to make it easier to remove the hook. Then there are a gazillion articles/videos about carefully unhooking fish through the gills when the hook is in the throat. This guy just needs to learn how to fish ethically and with some little bit of common sense and shut up.
Smokinal reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 11:47 AM, Glenn said:
The only shocking thing about this video, is that it's David Dudley. My respect for him just plummeted.
On 1/1/2020 at 8:58 PM, frogflogger said:David Dudley,the guy who went out and "stuck" fish to prevent others from catching them?
Came in to post this too. He and Roland Martin got into it over that incident.
Glenn reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 8:58 PM, frogflogger said:David Dudley,the guy who went out and "stuck" fish to prevent others from catching them?
Oh man, I forgot about that.
galyonj reply :
On 1/1/2020 at 11:47 AM, Glenn said:^^ This ^^
Unfortunately, the Googans have bred a LOT of fishing Youtubers that play the "shock", "Hype", and "drama" card to extremes. The only shocking thing about this video, is that it's David Dudley. My respect for him just plummeted.
I think the googans are simply a symptom. Hype marketing and clickbait has been pretty ubiquitous for a while now.
We may not like it (I know I don't), but it works. Look at us all talking about this idiotic video.
Kdizzle reply :
I think a large problem is that fisherman think that they need 3/0, 4/0, 5/0 and up hooks to catch fish, and I have noticed that the companies that make these types of jig heads are starting to appease this crowd by giving them jig heads for a very finesse techniques, these types of hook lengths, and making the jigheads heavier so these fishing brohs can throw them on their heavy casting gear.
If you need that size of hook with a 3 or 4 inch bait then you suck at fishing. A #2 or #1 or hell a #4 and a medium light or medium powered spinning set up is all you need.
Also I can tell that a lot of these people just don't have the reflexes or perception to pick up a bite and set a hook in a timely fashion, almost like most of them just picked the hobby up later in life instead of being taught at a very early age. If you started creek fishing for pan fish and google eye at a very young age, then you will know what a d**n bite feels like when you are fishing for bass in your older years believe me. And quite frankly I don't think people with that lack of skill should be fishing period.
JediAmoeba reply :
I didnt watch this but I know for certain I lose more soft plastics in the water using every technique than the ned rig. Wacky rigging and texas rigging I am using plastics that tear and rip unlike the zman plastics.
OCdockskipper reply :
As far as motive, Dudley is sponsored by Perfection lures who make a unique shakey head jighead. Maybe there was a little pressure from his sponsor to bad mouth competition (other finesse baits) in order to increase sales. I know I rarely fish a shakeyhead ever since I learned how to fish the ZMan TRD and their other Ned baits properly.
I have a theory about why most Ned rig baits are rarely taken deep, especially by bigger fish. Those baits are so subtle & unobtrusive, I think bass forget they just ate them. When a bass eats a big bluegill, shad or crawdad, he has to get it down his gullet before it escapes. A Ned rig is like a hors d'oeuvres, a little morsel that you don't think about when you are popping it into your mouth. So the bass eats it and then just swims off looking for more food.
Jason.Domingo reply :
Me nor the wife has had a problem deep hooking a bass with the ned rig. Especially the wife who slow crawls it on the bottom not feeling if a bass has picked it up but by feeling the tension in her line. As for me the only issue I had was a bass breaking me off as i was trying to get it up on the dock (no net)
cgolf reply :
Haven’t read any replies here, but left a pointed comment. I have never hooked one deep with a Ned rig, but I also refuse to fish with slack in my line, and set the hook the first time I feel the fish. I catch a lot of lake fish this way, but learned it on the river where due to current fish don’t have time to chew on a bait. I always cringe watching pros in videos talking about giving fish time with a plastic before setting the hook, screams deep hooking possibilities to me.
I know some will disagree with me, but slack line and letting fish chew on baits isn’t good in my eyes and I whack em good enough with a quick set.
kayaking_kev reply :
Off topic a bit, but I caught over 500 fish on video this season and I gut hooked about 8 and had maybe 3 or 4 end up dying. They were all on plastic worms and were on the only rods I had at the time, that weren't ideal for that type of fishing, a Ugly Stik Gx2 6'0 3 piece, and one or two happened on a Shimano FX spinning rod, which is fiberglass and they were both in river current to make things worse. I now have better rods for that application, but is that a lot for how many fish I caught?
This was only my 2nd season fishing and my first season I only fished treble hook lures, so I didn't gut hook any fish, but I have really no idea how often gut hooks happen on average to other people. I have a friend that says whenever he fishes his dad's private pond, he ends up gut hooking bass about 20% of the time. I also had one pond that I fish, where 3 or 4 of my gut hooks happened, which is high compared to any other pond I fish. So it seems that the fish in certain bodies water eat the bait differently.
Anyway, I have only fished the ned rig for a few months now and I haven't had a gut hook yet on one, but I'm throwing it on a Dobyns Champion Extreme HP 702c.
Which also reminds me, what other baits are bad for fish?
I know I use the whopper plopper a lot in the river for smallies and it can sometimes tear the fish up pretty good with the back trebles. The river is shallow and the smallies are aggressive and like to jump and try to shake loose and that how they get tore up.
zell_pop1 reply :
Where was this when the A-rig became the rage? Wires wrapping around a bass with 5-10 different hooks all over its body. That should have been illegal in tournaments from day 1.
The Bassman reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 1:09 PM, kayaking_kev said:Off topic a bit, but I caught over 500 fish on video this season and I gut hooked about 8 and had maybe 3 or 4 end up dying. They were all on plastic worms and were on the only rods I had at the time, that weren't ideal for that type of fishing, a Ugly Stik Gx2 6'0 3 piece, and one or two happened on a Shimano FX spinning rod, which is fiberglass and they were both in river current to make things worse. I now have better rods for that application, but is that a lot for how many fish I caught?
This was only my 2nd season fishing and my first season I only fished treble hook lures, so I didn't gut hook any fish, but I have really no idea how often gut hooks happen on average to other people. I have a friend that says whenever he fishes his dad's private pond, he ends up gut hooking bass about 20% of the time. I also had one pond that I fish, where 3 or 4 of my gut hooks happened, which is high compared to any other pond I fish. So it seems that the fish in certain bodies water eat the bait differently.
Anyway, I have only fished the ned rig for a few months now and I haven't had a gut hook yet on one, but I'm throwing it on a Dobyns Champion Extreme HP 702c.
Which also reminds me, what other baits are bad for fish?
I know I use the whopper plopper a lot in the river for smallies and it can sometimes tear the fish up pretty good with the back trebles. The river is shallow and the smallies are aggressive and like to jump and try to shake loose and that how they get tore up.
You're not experiencing anything out of the ordinary. When we seek to capture fish with hooks some are going to get hooked mortally. Just goes with the turf. To answer your question, single hook soft plastics are most likely to get gut hooked. Experience and sensitive tackle will reduce that. Trebles end up in bad places regardless how skilled you are. I've switched over to Mustad Triple Grips that I've made barbless. I don't notice any increase in lost fish and hook removal is much easier. Looks like you're doing real good just starting out. Enjoy.
smalljaw67 reply :
I fish in cold water a lot in spring, fall, and early winter and I use a lot of small hair jigs and Ned rigs. I can honestly say that I've never gut hooked a fish on either of those types of techniques and I'm talking 1/16oz jigs with a #2 hook. I have gut hooked at least 10 - 15 fish on a Senko through the years and I believe it is due to the fish swallowing those bait really fast. Those gut hooked fish on the Senko all happened while fishing the bait T-rigged weightless, it has never happened when using wacky/flick shake head.
Mobasser reply :
When I first started fishing plastic worms almost 40yrs ago, many of us were taught to wait, for as much as a 10 count before setting the hook. I read about this method in books, magazines etc. It was the accepted method to hook fish on soft plastic baits. I'm sure there were many more gut hooked bass back in those days. Now, most of us rarely wait. When you sense a strike, take up slack, and set the hook quickly! Our better, more sensitive rods help with this too. But, the fact remains that you'll still have an occasional gut hooked fish. It's part of fishing.
Jermination reply :
I've caught more than 100 3+lb smallmouth over the last 3 months on a ned rig, fish with slack in my line, and have not gut hooked a single one. Once you learn what the bite feels like you feel the weight reel taught and lift your rod. Occasionally if it's really windy and you are constantly battling wind bows they can get them a little deep before you catch up to your line. Experience definitely helps, i've cut off many a hooks that were just too deep to mess with coming from the back of my boat, usually try to cut the hook as far down the shank as i can go, one positive is that 90% of ned hooks bend easily and nature has a way of taking care of itself so i think they can still digest. Treble hooks can get nasty sometimes on the thrashing fish throwing crankbaits, its just part of it sometimes there's nothing you can do
fishwizzard reply :
I could very easily see how people are having bass swallow Neds with some frequency.
Rather then the generally always moving “no fee” retrieve that the lure was originally used with, most people now fish it deadsticked on the bottom. With a lure that light it’s going to be challenging to detect a strike before a bass can swallow it. Add inexperienced anglers using gear that likely isn’t idea for strike detection, you can see how it’s going to happen a lot.
Tim Kelly reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 10:52 PM, fishwizzard said:I could very easily see how people are having bass swallow Neds with some frequency.
Rather then the generally always moving “no fee” retrieve that the lure was originally used with, most people now fish it deadsticked on the bottom. With a lure that light it’s going to be challenging to detect a strike before a bass can swallow it. Add inexperienced anglers using gear that likely isn’t idea for strike detection, you can see how it’s going to happen a lot.
You would hope a multi AOY angler wouldn't be that inept though.
hoosierbass07 reply :
I watched more of his videos last night and got to admit I liked or agreed with a lot of them. There's one where he's talking about using spinning rods for smaller crankbaits, another saying deep diving crankbaits are not used much, another saying it takes a lot of skill to catch the smaller fish like in MLF compared to catching the five largest (they both take skill). Sort of goofy in a fun way. Ned Rig video was way out there though.
J Francho reply :
It sounds like he's been hitting the bottle. Stats on a bar napkin is pretty funny, though.
Tim Kelly reply :
If nothing else he's got the you tube presenter's technique perfectly. 5 minutes of content which take 25 minutes to relay.
J Francho reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 3:05 AM, Tim Kelly said:5 minutes of content
I only made about 2 minutes in.
Mr.C in Texas reply :
I caught hundreds of bass with the Ned rig and have not noticed hooks being swallowed more than any other bait. I’ve been using the lifted jigs heads...don’t know if that would make a difference?
RichF reply :
For the sake of having a differing opinion (and as someone who is not a fan of stick worms and Mr. Ned), I think there could be some truth to this. From a statistical perspective, it makes sense. First off the ned (moreso stick worms) are probably the most commonly used baits/techniques by bass anglers (within the last decade anyway). That automatically makes them more "lethal" to the fish. The more use, the more likelihood of gut hooking (pretty easy concept). The manner in which they're used exacerbates that. They're finesse techniques so you're typically using light line, often in deeper water, to coax inactive fish into biting. This means you're less likely to react to a bite quickly (inactive fish = non-aggressive bite), especially if you're an inexperienced angler. This obviously gives the bass more time to swallow the bait. And since these baits are easy to use and catch a lot fish, they're often the preference of inexperienced and experienced anglers alike. Lastly, these baits are soft, typically loaded with salt, and are easily ingested by bass which can lead to digestive blockage and starvation, according to this BR article (https://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/skinny-fish.html). Now to be fair, I've only used a ned a couple times and have only caught maybe 10-15 bass on it, none of which were deep hooked (I'm also a pretty experienced angler). I am also not a fan of Dudley and think his numbers are awfully inflated. In the end, I don't think this idea is too far-fetched, just maybe not as dire as he claims.
J Francho reply :
"If you like this video, please like and subscribe."
Thanks, I wasn't sure what to do. 
Hawkeye21 reply :
The biggest fish killing bait I've ever seen is a simple small hook with a night crawler on it. I've never seen more fish gut hooked than from that technique.
I have yet to lose a fish from a Ned rig though.
Kdizzle reply :
The only two techniques I've ever lost fish on are on a 1/0 wacky rig, in which a bass swallowed upside downside somehow and the hook stuck in the bottom part of the gills and he bled to death. The other was a simple curly tail grub on a 2/0 jighead. The fish swallowed it up to the lead and I couldn't do anything to save him as he was dead before I got him to shore.
After those two episodes I downsized my hooks to a #4 gamakatsu ewg for wacky rigs and a #1 size jighead for small grubs and swimbaits. I don't lose fish and I also don't kill them.
Darren. reply :
Can honestly say I don't believe I've ever deep hooked a bass
with a Ned rig that I couldn't get it out "properly".
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
This is one more example of a “pro” fisherman with nothing new, insightful or cutting edge to offer. So in desperation to remain relevant and retain sponsors he’s spewing nonsense, hyperbole etc. This has been going to a lesser degree for years and it just gets worse. I’d rather have a discussion with any of the members here than listen to these guys prattle on.
KDW96 reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 1:42 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:This is one more example of a “pro” fisherman with nothing new, insightful or cutting edge to offer. So in desperation to remain relevant and retain sponsors he’s spewing nonsense, hyperbole etc. This has been going to a lesser degree for years and it just gets worse. I’d rather have a discussion with any of the members here than listen to these guys prattle on.
Very well written sir, And i agree 100%...
moguy1973 reply :
I couldn't make it through the whole video.
I think a fillet knife kills more bass than the Ned rig does.
A guy on our local fishing forum went out yesterday and strictly fished the Ned on Table Rock and caught 11 bass and took pictures of them and where the hook ended up. All were in the top lip or in the corner of the mouth. I know I've never deep hooked a fish on a Ned. I've probably killed more bass using multi treble hook lures that get deep and rip up gills during the fight than anything.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 3:16 AM, RichF said:... In the end, I don't think this idea is too far-fetched, just maybe not as dire as he claims...
The problem is that it is presented as a fact, an ongoing issue as opposed to a theory or idea.
The way he frames the problem is 100% incorrect. If he had given some leeway, such as saying "I have a concern with this" or "There is a possibility", then he would be making a point that people could start from. Since he doesn't, since his claim doesn't offer any room for being wrong, it becomes propaganda instead of a discussion.
RichF reply :
On 1/4/2020 at 12:52 AM, OCdockskipper said:The problem is that it is presented as a fact, an ongoing issue as opposed to a theory or idea.
The way he frames the problem is 100% incorrect. If he had given some leeway, such as saying "I have a concern with this" or "There is a possibility", then he would be making a point that people could start from. Since he doesn't, since his claim doesn't offer any room for being wrong, it becomes propaganda instead of a discussion.
You're absolutely right. This sort of thing isn't going to be well received by the bass fishing community when it's presented that way, especially coming from a pro (who says he is still going to use what he claims is killing all these fish) and especially since everyone is using the technique/bait. I still think there could be some truth to it though.
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