Deep? Carolina Gear 2024
Choporoz reply :
All the carolina rigging that I've ever done has been of the 'finesse' variety. Yesterday I was trying to get down deep and I really struggled.
If you throw a c-rig in more than 25 FOW, what is your typical setup?
Rod (length, power, action):
Weight size, shape, metal:
Bead (glass, plastic, none):
Leader Length:
Line:
WRB reply :
line to the reel can be braid, FC or mono, 15 lb is common. The leader should be mono because it tends to float instead of sinking, 10-12 lb is about average test.On 7/7/2015 at 2:03 AM, Choporoz said:All the carolina rigging that I've ever done has been of the 'finesse' variety. Yesterday I was trying to get down deep and I really struggled.
If you throw a c-rig in more than 25 FOW, what is your typical setup?
Rod (length, power, action): depends on the leader length and sinker weight, a least 7'.
Weight size, shape, metal: traditional C-rig uses a lead or brass egg sinker.
Bead (glass, plastic, none): bead between the swivel and weight.
Leader Length: depends on the distance on or off the bottom the bass are feeding. Average deep water, over 20', longer leader about 36" is common.
Line:
Try to use soft plastics that are neutral buoyancy or float and light to medium wire hooks.
Tom
J Francho reply :
Rig it up as posted above.
Then cut it off, and throw it in the lake.
Reel up the extra line all the way into the reel.
Break the rod in half.
Chuck that in the lake, too.
Turn on your graph.
Grab your drop shot rig.
Fish with that.
;P
Choporoz reply :
JF, that was me before yesterday.
However, I couldn't buy a bite on DS yesterday. Felt a little goofy my shaking my DS to no avail while I watched guys around me throwing heavy c-rigs and boating 4#+.
Tried to duplicate what I was seeing, but I was ill-equipped.
RoLo reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 3:42 AM, J Francho said:Rig it up as posted above.
Then cut it off, and throw it in the lake.
Reel up the extra line all the way into the reel.
Break the rod in half.
Chuck that in the lake, too.
Turn on your graph.
Grab your drop shot rig.
Fish with that.
;P
Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth 
Catt reply :
Falcon Original Carolina Lizard Dragger!
Length: 7'
Action: Heavy Fast
Weight: 3/8 oz
Line: 15# Berkley Big Game
Leader: 38"
Lure: Rage Tail Lizard
Y'all can throw a drop shot & catch all the dinks ya what but when ya get tired throw a c-rig & catch Nadine!
Logan S reply :
kikstand454 reply :
I love seeing all the guys offshore here in the south with their dropshots out. It's cute.
I drag the ball and chain thanks.
25+ fow calls for a 1oz weight. Seriously. With zero wind you would be OK with a 3/4..... But to be safe I'd start with 1oz.
Jon G reply :
Tie on a Football Jig
Put on Rage Craw Trailer
J Francho reply :
I suppose "cute" and "dinks" are legit terms.
scaleface reply :
7 foot MH rod . 12 or 15 lb mono main line and leader. 3/4 ounce egg sinker . I like a perfectly smooth Lizard so I can check for teeth marks. It is sometimes difficult to feel a bite . I use this set up to cover deep water quickly. When I get bit I toss a marker buoy and fish a Tex rig .
JGBassinAL reply :
I use a 7'6" MH, 20 lb. flouro with 15 lb. mono leader. 3/4 oz tungsten. I like a longer rod for quicker sweep hooksets, plus a farther cast. Most of the time I am throwing a lizard, but if not then I'm throwing a 10" worm.
Catt reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 4:50 AM, J Francho said:I suppose "cute" and "dinks" are legit terms.
Baked Potato Classic!
I'll give you the front sear 
papajoe222 reply :
The set-up you use depends quite a bit on where you'll be using it and it what type of cover. I prefer a tungsten weight, a glass bead, braid for the main line and a leader from 12-18in. I believe a lot of fish are missed on a long leader, especially if there is any current. I like the Havoc baits because they float, but my favorite is a BK tube when I'm working it fast. A football jig will sub for a C-rig if the fish are feeding on the bottom. A drop shot is a better alternative, but like some of the others, I have more confidence in the C-rig because of the information that heavy weight transfers up the line.
papajoe222 reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 11:10 AM, Catt said:Baked Potato Classic!
I'll give you the front sear
We won't need either for the next BPC. Hard baits are going to rule both of them.
Catt reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 11:16 AM, papajoe222 said:We won't need either for the next BPC. Hard baits are going to rule both of them.
Uhh No!
Bluebasser86 reply :
7' 3" MH/MF LTB
200E7
50lb braid to a 12-15lb fluoro leader
1/2-1oz brass weight with 1 glass bead and 1 clicker
I hate C-rigging though so if you see me fishing it I've basically given up on catching fish that day.
martintheduck reply :
7'6 or 7'2 MH xfast tip rod. 7:1 or faster gear ratio reel. I go with 17# fluro for the reel because if you get hung up, you can't break braid. Run a 3/4oz tungsten flip weight > Tungsten/glass bead (optional and situational)> Plastic bead > 12 barrel swivel > mono leader > hook. Depending on where I'm fishing, I might use a tungsten barrel weight instead of a flippin' weight. I find the flippin' weight doesn't get hung as much as a barrel. The Plastic bead is key IMO because it's easier on the knot and won't break it.I've also recently started putting a bobber stop on between the barrel swivel and the bead to further protect the knot.
Todd2 reply :
I use a 7ft MH rod, 15lb Mccoy line. 1/2 oz MOJO Carolina Slider or low profile bullet weight. I don't like egg sinkers, they hang up a lot for me. I use a Carolina Keeper with two glass beads and about a 18inch leader. Pull...Pop...Pause, then repeat BACK TO THE BOAT!
Choporoz reply :
Thanks for all the input, guys. I'm going to put this info to work this weekend until it puts fish in the boat.
I'm still a little uneasy about springing for tungsten just to intentionally lay it in the rocks.....I did find a large lot of 3/4 oz on auction site for less than $2 per, so maybe its time to pull that trigger.
martintheduck reply :
Just remember -- if you get hung up, don't yank on it from where you are... troll out and over your line/past your line and pull from that direction. I haven't lost any weights this year from hanging in rocks
WRB reply :
Take a look at Top Brass Pro-Jo cylinder weights in 3/8 & 1/2 oz. I use these in lieu of a egg sinker.
Tom
Todd2 reply :
On 7/9/2015 at 7:10 AM, martintheduck said:Just remember -- if you get hung up, don't yank on it from where you are... troll out and over your line/past your line and pull from that direction. I haven't lost any weights this year from hanging in rocks
I totally agree..but with Mojo Carolina Sliders or the Water Gremlin long low profile bullet sinkers I don't hang near as much to start with and when I do, they seem to pop loose easier without circling around as much. I haven't tried the Pro-Jos but I bet they would work good too.
WRB reply :
Brass is a hard metal so the hole doesn't get pounded closed, the line slides through with little resistance making strike detection a lot easier. The brass & glass clicking sound attracts bass when you use a heat treated glass bead. I rig this without a leader,muse the main mono line with a Carolina Keeper to hold the weight, back or use a Peg-It II to,peg the bead. This rig only has 1 knot, no swivel and works very well.
Tom
scaleface reply :
On 7/9/2015 at 11:00 AM, WRB said:Brass is a hard metal so the hole doesn't get pounded closed, the line slides through with little resistance making strike detection a lot easier. The brass & glass clicking sound attracts bass when you use a heat treated glass bead. I rig this without a leader,muse the main mono line with a Carolina Keeper to hold the weight, back or use a Peg-It II to,peg the bead. This rig only has 1 knot, no swivel and works very well.
Tom
Will the Carolina keeper hold a 3/4 ounce weight in place ?
Catt reply :
On 7/9/2015 at 11:17 AM, scaleface said:Will the Carolina keeper hold a 3/4 ounce weight in place ?
Nope!
Carolina Keepers struggle with any above 1/2 oz!
WRB reply :
Catt is right, a pegged glass bead will hold it or add a small round split shot against the keeper to help hod it.
Tom
Catt reply :
Simply double your keepers
martintheduck reply :
On 7/9/2015 at 8:44 AM, WRB said:Take a look at Top Brass Pro-Jo cylinder weights in 3/8 & 1/2 oz. I use these in lieu of a egg sinker.
Tom
Do those have inserts? I've used 1/8oz for "split shot" rigging but never the big ones... heck didn't even know they made big ones!
J Francho reply :
You don't need inserts with brass.
WRB reply :
I get them from Don Iovino painted black up to 3/4 oz, you can find them.On 7/10/2015 at 7:24 AM, martintheduck said:Do those have inserts? I've used 1/8oz for "split shot" rigging but never the big ones... heck didn't even know they made big ones!
The Top Brass weights have very smooth hole edges, no reason for inserts.
Tom
Todd2 reply :
I tried the Pro-Jos in 1/2 oz today for the first time on Tom's recommendation above. Gotta say I'm very impressed. I fished the rig most of the day and didn't lose one. It comes through cover as good as anything I've used but I could really notice the difference in feeling the bottom. All of my keepers came on the rig today. I'm sold.
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 11:13 AM, papajoe222 said:The set-up you use depends quite a bit on where you'll be using it and it what type of cover. I prefer a tungsten weight, a glass bead, braid for the main line and a leader from 12-18in. I believe a lot of fish are missed on a long leader, especially if there is any current. I like the Havoc baits because they float, but my favorite is a BK tube when I'm working it fast. A football jig will sub for a C-rig if the fish are feeding on the bottom. A drop shot is a better alternative, but like some of the others, I have more confidence in the C-rig because of the information that heavy weight transfers up the line.
Wouldn't a big jig also transfer that information of bottom composition just as well, and I would think it would be easier to feel what's actually going on with the bait, because you are in direct contact with it, so you can feel that bite, unlike a C-Rig? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, just trying to get what I can from this thread.
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 1:19 PM, Bluebasser86 said:7' 3" MH/MF LTB
200E7
50lb braid to a 12-15lb fluoro leader
1/2-1oz brass weight with 1 glass bead and 1 clicker
I hate C-rigging though so if you see me fishing it I've basically given up on catching fish that day.
Why the Moderate Fast Taper?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/18/2015 at 9:53 AM, HoosierHawgs said:Why the Moderate Fast Taper?
It's an older, full handled LTB that was their C-rig model when it was in production. Basically, it has a little softer tip than a fast rod which I believe it to help prevent pulling the bait from the fish's mouth while dragging since bite detection can be a bit of an issue with the C-rig. That's why I like it, no idea if that was their thinking when designing it.
HoosierHawgs reply :
Interesting. Not a big C-Rig guy myself... But makes sense.On 7/18/2015 at 2:51 PM, Bluebasser86 said:It's an older, full handled LTB that was their C-rig model when it was in production. Basically, it has a little softer tip than a fast rod which I believe it to help prevent pulling the bait from the fish's mouth while dragging since bite detection can be a bit of an issue with the C-rig. That's why I like it, no idea if that was their thinking when designing it.
ww2farmer reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 3:42 AM, J Francho said:Rig it up as posted above.
Then cut it off, and throw it in the lake.
Reel up the extra line all the way into the reel.
Break the rod in half.
Chuck that in the lake, too.
Turn on your graph.
Grab your drop shot rig.
Fish with that.
;P
No need to throw good equipment in the lake once the dreaded rig is off LMAO.
On 7/7/2015 at 1:19 PM, Bluebasser86 said:
I hate C-rigging though so if you see me fishing it I've basically given up on catching fish that day.
Same here..........but it does surprise me a few times a year.
J Francho reply :
The C-rig works at the city dump.
Choporoz reply :
Since posting here, I made note of all the replies...and let the Bait Monkey take over. I got an assortment of weights; 3/4 oz egg sinkers, 3/4 and 1 oz lead and tungsten worm weights, 3/4 oz mojo carolina weights, and 1 oz brass weight (Top-Brass) with a built in swivel.
I tried the brass swivel/weight first, because it seemed to simplify things by eliminating the extra swivel and bead. Logic failed me here. Having a 'fixed' carolina weight made it absolutely impossible to detect strikes - especially at 25+ feet. I could feel the bottom just fine, but if I ever got a bite, I'd have never known it.
As to the rest, I'm very disappointed to find that like the tungsten the best. The compact size makes casting heavy weight much easier, which is a big consideration with a carolina rig. The bottom contact 'feel' is far superior to lead. I put off trying tungsten for a long time due to the price and the frequency with which I lose weights (mostly drop shot and texas, but carolina too at times.) I can't say if it is 'worth' the premium price in all applications, and it certainly won't be for everyone, but I'm sold...at least for deep c-rigging.
I will say that the Mojo Carolina sinkers are not too far behind. Every single Mojo product I've ever used has impressed the heck out of me. These are no different. They come across the bottom well and transmit well. I feel the differences in bottom composition, but I'm not as confident about what I'm hitting (rock, weed, wood, etc) as I am with the tungsten.
scaleface reply :
Carolina rigging with heavy weight and leader is a deep water search tactic for me.It covers deep water quickly Bites are hard to detect , sure , but I use it on points and large flats that dont have a lot of brush and set the hook when I feel something. My number one bait for the rig is a Zoom lizard. A Zoom lizard is very shiny and smooth . If a bass hits a Zoom Lizard , the teeth marks are very easy to see . You see teeth marks , you missed fish.
Todd2 reply :
On 7/20/2015 at 8:57 PM, J Francho said:The C-rig works at the city dump.
Wow...no love for the old ball and chain.
Drewski73 reply :
I do a lot of that 20-30 FOW C-Rig stuff here in Texas. I use a Dobyns Champ 804C with a Curado 200D on it. 50lb braid for main line, 12lb mono leader in that depth it starts about 3 feet long and gets longer depending on the fish. 3/4oz is the lightest I throw on that rig. Up to 1.5oz in normal Texas wind in 30 FOW. Ill use anything from a 4" finesse worm to a 12" curl tail, or large lizard. 1/O to 4/O EWG lightwire hook depending on bait size.
That being said my buddy fishes pre-made C-Rigs on whatever Rod he broke off last, and fishes whatever line is on that rod, to a 12" leader made out of whatever line is on that rod, to whatever hook is on the floor, with a zoom plum finesse worm, or a zoom plum finesse worm, and he KILLS THEM!
So, either of those tactics may work for you!
J Francho reply :
Those that know what I mean by city dump, know where I fish, lol.
ChrisD46 reply :
^^This^^ I use AbrazX though in 15lb. but can't go wrong with a Zoom baby brush hog in Green Pumpkin or Junebug if water is more stained . While a tungsten weight is a nice touch - I use 1/2oz. ~ 1oz. steel egg sinkers that deep .On 7/7/2015 at 3:57 AM, Stratos20SS said:7'1" MH/F - St Croix LTB.
15lb Red Label Flouro.
1/2 to 1oz tungsten weight depending on wind and depth. Glass bead.
18" leader length.
Zoom Baby Brush Hog.
I'm more likely to throw a jig or football head though, but sometimes the old C-Rig just catches them better.
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