So this year I am gearing up to learn the chatterbait and how to really apply it...I'm a big fan of specific application rods and had what I thought would be a good rod to throw them on (dobyns fury 733 or 734) but yesterday after speaking with a man at dobyns he suggested a champion 736 cb glass. Kinda the opposite end of the spectrum from which I was leaning so what is everyone's go to chatter rod and why do you like it.. Should I go glass glass composite or full graphite.I'll be throwing them with a lews tournament mb in a 6 gear on 14lb sniper or cxx
Also Ild like to stay under the 250 mark on the rod if you have any recommendations
I switched to the 736CB glass last fall. It's composite. I love it. Dobyns has some mislabeled 736CB's labeled 735 CB on their store site for 170 bucks. That is a smoking deal.
I get what you're saying. I've seen places recommend technique specific rods and actions that are a completely different from each other. In what is just my opinion, I would fish a chatterbait on a similar set up one would use for med-size spinnerbaits and swim jigs. Something with a mod-fast or fast action.
For me, a 7' MH-Fast action rod (action probably more akin to a mod-fast) works well enough for 3/8oz lures.
7 ft MH IM7 fast to med/fast 15 lb mono. Depending on weight and how I'm fishing it, I might go a tad up or down
For chatterbaits (3/8oz+ and a Trailer):
That mislabeled Dobyns for sure.
I really like the "Regular" taper Daiwa Rods (7'2"MHR) in either the Tatula or Zillion (new Tatula signature also coming out).
Glass or composite 100% I've been using the old TW exclusive Powell Max 7'0 H Glass "spook and trap" rod and it's been awesome for bladed jigs.
Whatever you throw a spinner bait on throw a chatter bait on.
I just recently purchased a 7'2" MH-Regular Daiwa Tatula for single hook moving baits and love it. Has just the right amount of give for casting distance, but still good backbone to drive the single hook home. Insanely sensitive as well. Might end up being my favorite rod by the end of this season.
Whatever MH fast tip 7 foot casting rod that doesn't have abait tied to it is the one iI'm useing to fish my chatterbaits, same with my spinnerbaits.
first, I would find something other than a fury. I have not been impressed with mine other than the fact that it feels amazing in my hand. when I fish with it, it just doesn't feel good. I would lean toward a glass composite. I had a daiwa tatula composite and it was a good action for the bait. the rod itself had a bare lock nut to secure the reel and I did not like that part but overall it was a good rod. it was a 7'2 mh.
736 CB Glass. I have one and love it...I generally dislike glass rods, but for chatterbaits it's gold. That deal on the factory mislabeled rods is awesome, if I didn't already own a 736 I'd have one on the way to my house right now.
I too picked up one of those mislabeled 736cb glass rods. What an impressive rod. It was certainly not what I was expecting in a glass rod. On the scale, with the plastic wrap on the handle and the tags on the guide, it came in at 5.9oz. Which I thought was pretty light for such a long, heavy powered glass rod. To compare, my 735C Sierra in ready to fish condition is 5.4oz.
Prior to picking up this 736cb, my old chatterbait rod was an Abu Veracity 7'MH-F. I still love this rod for chatterbaits and swimjigs and I'm sure it will still get used for those applications.
I just ordered the 736cb from dobyns store. Will be my first glass rod.
I've been drooling over the new St Croix LGC74MHM for bladed jigs since it came out but the 736cb is awfully tempting at that price. I've been trying to talk myself out of buying any new rods and reels this year but...ughhh thanks a lot guys...
I throw my chatterbaits on a Phenix X3 glass rod and have found no reason to change. I fish them like a crankbait so treat them as such.
Another vote for the 736 glass
On 3/2/2017 at 10:01 PM, Columbia Craw said:I switched to the 736CB glass last fall. It's composite. I love it.
On 3/3/2017 at 2:49 AM, Logan S said:736 CB Glass. I have one and love it...
On 3/3/2017 at 2:56 AM, fishballer06 said:I too picked up one of those mislabeled 736cb glass rods.
Question for those that have the 735CB or 736CB, I noticed that Dobyns lists it as "fast action," yet I have noticed on other companies' websites that their "spinnerbait" type rods are listed as "moderate" or "moderate fast." Does the fact that the Dobyns rod is glass allow for the faster action compared to the graphite rods on the other sites? I am really interested in this rod as my chatterbait, spinnerbait, small to medium crankbait, and swim jig rod, but have limited (3 rods) space on the Pelican 10E that I cannot make a wrong decision. Hope the question makes sense -- any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
On 3/3/2017 at 10:26 AM, Chowderhead said:
Question for those that have the 735CB or 736CB, I noticed that Dobyns lists it as "fast action," yet I have noticed on other companies' websites that their "spinnerbait" type rods are listed as "moderate" or "moderate fast." Does the fact that the Dobyns rod is glass allow for the faster action compared to the graphite rods on the sites? I am really interested in this rod as my chatterbait, spinnerbait, small to medium crankbait, and swim jig rod, but have limited (3 rods) space on the Pelican 10E that I cannot make a wrong decision. Hope the question makes sense -- any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I can't answer this other than to say that a lot of Glass crankbait rods are rated as Fast. I suppose that means "fast" for glass.
After seeing how fast a bass can inhale a bait, seim off their bed and spit it out, I don't buy into the need of slower or softer rod to "give them time to eat it". If they want that bait you couldn't pull it away if you wanted to. If you're getting short strikes change color, size or retrieve. For me spinner baits, swim jigs and chatter baits can all be thrown with the same rod assuming weight is within suitable range.
I wouldn't care if it said pool noodle on the rods action. Every company has a totally different meaning whenever they say "moderate/fast/ex. fast" or "M/MH/H".
Every Dobyns glass rod says fast action and the graphite one's are either moderate or moderate fast. The fact of the matter is that once you see/feel these rods in person, you will understand that these rods are perfect for these applications.
The half a dozen or so members here that all recommended the 736cb wouldn't try to steer you wrong if they weren't confident in this rod.
On 3/3/2017 at 10:59 AM, fishballer06 said:I wouldn't care if it said pool noodle on the rods action. Every company has a totally different meaning whenever they say "moderate/fast/ex. fast" or "M/MH/H".
Every Dobyns glass rod says fast action and the graphite one's are either moderate or moderate fast. The fact of the matter is that once you see/feel these rods in person, you will understand that these rods are perfect for these applications.
The half a dozen or so members here that all recommended the 736cb wouldn't try to steer you wrong if they weren't confident in this rod.
Great point and well said -- thanks
On 3/3/2017 at 10:59 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:After seeing how fast a bass can inhale a bait, seim off their bed and spit it out, I don't buy into the need of slower or softer rod to "give them time to eat it". If they want that bait you couldn't pull it away if you wanted to. If you're getting short strikes change color, size or retrieve. For me spinner baits, swim jigs and chatter baits can all be thrown with the same rod assuming weight is within suitable range.
It is this kind of perspective/insight that I have come to appreciate from the boards. Thanks!
I throw chatterbait son a duckett white ice terry scroggins. I love that rod for buzzbaits too. Occasionally I throw the chatter on the IMX spinnerbait rod. Depends on what baits I am throwing that day.
Look at an iRod gen 2 723c. I own one and throw chatterbaits on it and love it. For $150 you can't go wrong.
I like a graphite rod, MH usually, over 7'
MB XX DSR is my main chatterbait rod.
On 3/3/2017 at 10:26 AM, Chowderhead said:Question for those that have the 735CB or 736CB, I noticed that Dobyns lists it as "fast action," yet I have noticed on other companies' websites that their "spinnerbait" type rods are listed as "moderate" or "moderate fast." Does the fact that the Dobyns rod is glass allow for the faster action compared to the graphite rods on the other sites? I am really interested in this rod as my chatterbait, spinnerbait, small to medium crankbait, and swim jig rod, but have limited (3 rods) space on the Pelican 10E that I cannot make a wrong decision. Hope the question makes sense -- any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
It is faster than your typical glass cranking rod. It's kinda tough to really compare glass to graphite, but this rod has a soft tip and strong mid section and backbone...So it definitely feels like a fast action while fishing, but when loaded up you really see it as more of a Mod-Fast.
I don't buy the 'pulling the bait away' theory either....The glass rod for the chatterbait is more about actually fishing the bait. It's much easier to fish through heavy grass, especially when popping it free. It's tough to explain and I was also skeptical at first, sort of something you need to try out for yourself.
The 736CB Glass would also make great a spinnerbait and squarebill rod, although I prefer graphite for both of those personally. I'm sure it could handle deeper cranks too if you wanted...I only use it for chatterbaits, but it's not a one-trick pony .
I through them on Jig and swimbait setups.....adjust your drag approximately and don't bother with glass or composits
I've been fishing mine on a Hammer Rods 6' 9" H/F. I believe it was @smalljaw67 that suggested the rod, and I've been in love with it since I started fishing it. Not as heavy as I imagined a H/F rod being, and it has a more parabolic bend to it than I'd imagined (both traits he'd assured me the rod had). It's very light and sensitive, really a joy to fish with.
I'm with DVT, I don't buy into the need to let fish inhale the bait. If a bass wants to eat it, they're going to eat it. It's funny the "need" for a slower rod for a bladed jig, but everyone still fishes a spinnerbait on a MH/F? Why can they catch a spinnerbait but not a bladed jig? Not saying that fishing a composite or glass rod is wrong, it just makes no sense to me. I've tried it, didn't like it and had a horrible hookup ratio. Changed back and it would take a lot for me to try them again.
I was looking for a new chatterbait/spinnerbait rod last year and jumped on the Aetos deal when they were around $90. I picked up a 7'1 MH MF and paired it with a reel from the company not to be mentioned in something like 8:1 or 9:1 ratio and spooled it with 30lb 832. I wanted something with a slower action primarily to help launch my bait a mile, what I got was an interesting/pleasant surprise. The Aetos MF has a surprisingly fast tip, but loads far enough down the rod on the back cast to still sling anything over 1/4 oz a mile. I was originally hoping for something a little softer/slower with no stretch in the braid, but I've grown to really like it. Any faster a tip and it would be uncomfortable to fish (heavy vibration plus nerve damage do not a good time make), any slower and I would sacrifice a lot of sensitivity. Because of the sensitivity, it also makes a killer swim jig rod around both dense cover and open water. For a sub $200 rod, it's definitely a winner.
How large are the guides on that 736cb glass? I know the older model dobyns had small guides. Not Micros, but quite a bit smaller than conventional ones. Are the newer Champions the same?
On 3/5/2017 at 11:08 PM, RichF said:How large are the guides on that 736cb glass? I know the older model dobyns had small guides. Not Micros, but quite a bit smaller than conventional ones. Are the newer Champions the same?
Since no one has said anything, the guides on my D684cb are relatively the same compared to my other rods. Might be a hair smaller, but I think that may have something to do with the fact it's only 6'8 and has 9 guides perhaps?
Thanks for the reply. I saw a few pics that compared the old Champion series guides to an older Loomis IMX side by side. The old Champion's guides were smaller which I like, but I believe the new version has different guides.