braid bad to use on every setup? 2025
FrogginOhio reply :
i tend to try and use braid on majority of my setups, besides my spinning setup. is this bad? mainly 20lb braid except for my flipping rods. was wanting to know everyone elses opinions on this.
thanks!
flyfisher reply :
total preference. I use braid on pretty much everything except one spinning rod that i use for jerk baits and topwater. other than that, i am a straight braid guy.
Darren. reply :
Up to you, really.
I use braid on every setup, but I always tie on a
leader of varying poundage, and material.
Mostly I tie Yo-Zuri Hybrid from 4-15# test.
Also have XPS Florocarbon that I use on occasion.
BrianinMD reply :
Its all personal preference, mine is all flouro except topwater and punching.
S. Sass reply :
It is up to you really. I use braid on every setup, and I never tie on a leader.
I will say I haven't fish deep diving crankbaits hardly at all. Lipless and some up to 5 to 6' deep is about it and I don't fish them much. Just looking to get started doing more of that. So my opinion is sort of biased.
0119 reply :
I think its a poor choice for every technique except spinning reels. So to each his own....
Scott F reply :
I use it for everything. The stretch of mono & fluoro is a deal breaker for me.
Mosster47 reply :
I run braid on everything but my spinnerbait setup. I don't like throwing fluoro, but I use it as leader for almost everything.
Use what you like.
Kyle46N reply :
Braid on everything except for mono on a medium action topwater rod for throwing smaller topwaters. Like mentioned, I'll have leaders of various lengths and pound test for different applications. Just can't beat the no stretch of braid. Sure you can read all about people losing fish on crankbaits because of braid, etc. I've never had it happen.....so no reason for me to switch. When it comes to lines and techniques like using braid, flouro, etc......do what you want to do, not what you're supposed to do.
ww2farmer reply :
I use it for everything................if it's wrong, I don't want to be right.
HeavyTwenty reply :
I use braid on everything because its cheaper in the long run... braid is suppose to last forever while the others are suppose to be changed every year. Personally I find the biggest disadvantage of lighter braid is lack of wind resistance. I've been thinking about upsizing my braid to counter that.
Fishinthefish reply :
I use braid on nearly everything. I just fish with flouro leaders.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I'm switching to more and more braid every year it seems, but it's still only on maybe 1/4 of my combos, with a majority of it on my spinning combos. I only have 1 spinning setup that's not braid, I use that one for small cranks and jerkbaits. I use it on my C rig rod and a few casting setups that I know I'm going to fish around grass (punching, frogging rods). Other than that, I like mono or copolymer.
junyer357 reply :
Personal preference. If you are only using one kind, its easy to remeber what its spooled with, and cheaper buying bulk spool.
I personally like braid for my senkos ( easy to see hi vis yellow line watching) and topwater lures. Most everything else i use flouro. I liked the increased sensitivity in braid on worms n jigs, but was costing a fortune in breakoffs when fishing some of the rocky areas i like to fish. Flouro for me has been more abraision resistant with out going to gazillion pound test braid. I
paleus reply :
Everything. 30lb braid with 12lb fluoro leader on casting rods, 15lb braid with 8lb fluoro leader on spinning rods.
Josh Smith reply :
I use braid for everything except a dedicated cranking setup I have, but never use (looking for a different rod.) I do a lot of fishing around, on and through structure and cover, and so appreciate the strength and sensitivity it provides.
Josh
0119 reply :
On 3/2/2016 at 11:45 PM, Josh Smith said:appreciate the strength and sensitivity it provides.
That's where I find braid at its weakest. Unable to with stand the gillplates of bycatch or cope with the slightest touch of a zebrafish mussel or marl rock.
Raul reply :
I use nylon practically for anything and I really would want somebody to prove I´m wrong.
WPCfishing reply :
Braid on all my casting reels. CX leader on a few.
Ridi620 reply :
I agree its total preference. Im just saying, id rather have braid on it because you can throw it in any situation and be confident that if a biggone comes along, you wont break off. Braid all the way
Team9nine reply :
I use a lot of braid for finesse spinning applications because it handles so well, but really find very little need for it on baitcasters outside of a few specialized applications (frogging, etc.). Is going "all braid" bad? Ehh, whatever you're comfortable with....just not the right style/application for me.
-T9
nascar2428 reply :
Totally up to you. Me personally, I only use spinning gear. So it's all braid for me with flouro or co poly leaders.
DaleGribble reply :
I use braid for everything except cranking. I will use a leader if need be for jigs and Trigs. Spinning gear is the same. Just more manageable, castable, etc for me.
Further North reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 3:44 AM, Raul said:I use nylon practically for anything and I really would want somebody to prove I´m wrong.
Why? Use what you want and enjoy.
I agree with all above who say it's personal preference.
I run braid on everything, use mono and fluorocarbon and hybrid leaders as needed (and sometimes tieable wire leaders).
0119 reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 10:29 AM, Further North said:Why?
I don't know for him but for me there are so many negatives it proved impossible to fish with. I fish very clear water and braid lowered my catch rate, no matter what "professional academic experts" say about that being impossible and bass being too stupid to notice. Worse for every bass I catch I get more hits from by catch like tarpon, snook or jacks. Braid has absolutely zero, ziltch, nada abrasion resistance forcing me to use at a minimum, 20# hard mono leader, many 40# if I'm using an expensive lure! More knots and no wonder knot has an exceptional record tying big thick mono to thin braid in the real world. Those thick knots with a hard mono tag end are murder going through your guides. My shorelines are solid marl rock full of exposed ancient coral and shell. Zebra Mussels coat most submerged structure. Braid just doesn't last a trip. Yeah I could wrench my drag down, lose all the salty fish, not enjoy the fight by dragging fish in like a flw/bass pro and not experience true fishing, but what fun is that? I could change my personal requirement of having reels last me a generation and let the braid ruin my gear with the drag wrenched to the max but I don't want to. I also need the stretch of mono as I fish treble hooked lures 99% of the time. My catch rate increases from the degree of forgiveness that compensates for my sometimes being too jealous in fighting a big fish.
None of these ideals or causes could affect anyone else in the world. Your right that its all personal preference. But what gets me is 99% of forum users tell folks your nuts for using anything but braid but know nothing about the conditions of which the person is fishing or what they want to get out of their fishing experience. Everyone thinks they have to fish like a pro and be equipped like a pro. Dragging a dink along the top of the waters surface isn't fishing, its imitating a t.v. personality. Nobody seems to have any idea how to really fight a fish let alone enjoy the battle. BPS isles now have a 4 foot section of none braided lines and 50 feet of double sided isle of nothing but braid. Less choice is always bad. The industry is thrilled that consumers buy braid at ever increasing prices. They are thrilled that it has negative effects on rods and reels when it is used the popular and improper way, they use that to get you to buy that next generation reel.
Raul reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 10:29 AM, Further North said:Why? Use what you want and enjoy.
I agree with all above who say it's personal preference.
I run braid on everything, use mono and fluorocarbon and hybrid leaders as needed (and sometimes tieable wire leaders).
Braid lasts close to nothing when you fish something like this:
DubyaDee reply :
It all depends on where you fish and what you're fishing for.
I run braid on all of my rods, most of the time with a flouro leader. Most of my fishing is in open water with zebra muscles and pike/musky present. This is where the flouro leader comes in, 6-15#. Learning to tie good knots is key too. I have less break offs with a flouro leader/san diego jam not, than I do with a braid/palomar knot. This could be because of the knot strength with that specific line or the toothy fish that like my perch jerkbait.
It's important to match up the line with the action of your rod too. I wouldn't throw a treble hook lure with straight brad and a med x fast rod. The flouro leader gives you a little stretch which is nice.
Every time I hear a pro on TV talk about flourocarbon line they say no stretch. I just don't get it. I know flouro doesn't stretch as much as mono, but in no way it is no stretch.
A braid with flouro leader is great for me, but it may not be for you and your style of fishing.
Raul reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 11:30 PM, DubyaDee said:Every time I hear a pro on TV talk about flourocarbon line they say no stretch. I just don't get it. I know flouro doesn't stretch as much as mono, but in no way it is no stretch.
Besides, when FC stretches it stretches forever ( and therefore thins out ) not like nylon that returns to it´s original length and diameter once the load is gone.
0119 reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 11:30 PM, DubyaDee said:Learning to tie good knots is key too.
Yes but even what is a good knot is up for debate too. Many so called good knots have been unimpressive in fancy Nancy tests and for that matter in my experience. Along with that goes age of the tyer. To me a good knot is simple, fast, instinctive and capable of being tied in the dark with no light, heavy winds or a pitching boat. The best knot of all is no knot because a knot will always be a weak link. Braid causes more knots and that's a big negative.
Josh Smith reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 1:09 AM, 119 said:That's where I find braid at its weakest. Unable to with stand the gillplates of bycatch or cope with the slightest touch of a zebrafish mussel or marl rock.
We have radically different environments, it looks like. Most of my heavy cover fishing consists of vegetation; weeds, downed trees, and the like.
The rock I fish is mostly limestone, and I personally haven't seen a zebra mussel, though I understand they are here.
I do often run leaders. For example, my jerkbait rod gets a 6' (or so) fluorocarbon leader. I also use a clinch knot (not improved or anything like that) doubled through the eye so that I do have to break it off, it breaks at the terminal knot and not at the Albright knot. I rarely have to break it off, though. Just check and retie. The rocks are generally smoothed by the river current, and so I don't get abraded much. I can run and have ran straight braid in that area without problems; my jig setup I use in heavy vegetation also nets me good sized fish from in the rocks. (Smallies love crawdads! :D) I do sometimes use a 17lb mono leader on the river with the jigs, but not overly often.
Regards,
Josh
Further North reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 6:48 PM, 119 said:I don't know for him but for me there are so many negatives it proved impossible to fish with. I fish very clear water and braid lowered my catch rate, no matter what "professional academic experts" say about that being impossible and bass being too stupid to notice. Worse for every bass I catch I get more hits from by catch like tarpon, snook or jacks. Braid has absolutely zero, ziltch, nada abrasion resistance forcing me to use at a minimum, 20# hard mono leader, many 40# if I'm using an expensive lure! More knots and no wonder knot has an exceptional record tying big thick mono to thin braid in the real world. Those thick knots with a hard mono tag end are murder going through your guides. My shorelines are solid marl rock full of exposed ancient coral and shell. Zebra Mussels coat most submerged structure. Braid just doesn't last a trip. Yeah I could wrench my drag down, lose all the salty fish, not enjoy the fight by dragging fish in like a flw/bass pro and not experience true fishing, but what fun is that? I could change my personal requirement of having reels last me a generation and let the braid ruin my gear with the drag wrenched to the max but I don't want to. I also need the stretch of mono as I fish treble hooked lures 99% of the time. My catch rate increases from the degree of forgiveness that compensates for my sometimes being too jealous in fighting a big fish.
None of these ideals or causes could affect anyone else in the world. Your right that its all personal preference. But what gets me is 99% of forum users tell folks your nuts for using anything but braid but know nothing about the conditions of which the person is fishing or what they want to get out of their fishing experience. Everyone thinks they have to fish like a pro and be equipped like a pro. Dragging a dink along the top of the waters surface isn't fishing, its imitating a t.v. personality. Nobody seems to have any idea how to really fight a fish let alone enjoy the battle. BPS isles now have a 4 foot section of none braided lines and 50 feet of double sided isle of nothing but braid. Less choice is always bad. The industry is thrilled that consumers buy braid at ever increasing prices. They are thrilled that it has negative effects on rods and reels when it is used the popular and improper way, they use that to get you to buy that next generation reel.
Thanks - good info.
One thing: I use an FG knot to tie on leaders...it's not thick and lacks that hat mono tag end.
...I don't understand anyone who says (or thinks) other fishermen are nuts for not using what they use. That's just dumb. I can learn something from anyone, and most of those things make me a better fisherman...even if it's just something to not do.
On 3/3/2016 at 9:47 PM, Raul said:Braid lasts close to nothing when you fish something like this:
Thanks - that looks similar to a lot of the Canadian water I fish, which is why I use leaders.
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