Fluoro Line Twist On Spinning Reel....help 2025
The Fisher reply :
After reading all the great things about Pflueger spinning reels, I bought a new Pflueger Supreme 8230 that I spooled with Sunline Super FC Sniper 8# line. I am getting line twists. My other 2 spinning reels are Shimano 2500 Saharas one with 20# braid and the other with 8# AN40 copolymer. In 3 years I've never had any line twists with these 2. I spooled the Pflueger to the same spot on the lip with the line as my other two reels.
Any suggestions on eliminating the line twists? I close the bale manually. Is fluorocarbon not suited for a spinning reel or is 8# fluoro too thick? Should I cut back some off the line so I have more spool lip showing?
Any help would be appreciated.
zeth reply :
maybe you spooled it on wrong? try line conditioner. and try to stretch it out a bit. hook to a tree and pull to reduce memory. or skip the fluoro. or maybe you overspooled. i never use staight fluoro anymore. at least not on my spinning reels. it's almost always braid with fluoro leader. line twist is bound to happen sooner or later on a spinning reel. Pfluegers are great reels so i doubt it's the reel.
Choporoz reply :
I apologize if it sounds insulting, but my first thoughts were the same as Zeth - was the line coming off the spool counter-clockwise?
A-Jay reply :
Set up your filler spool so that the line is spinning off the spool and spinning on to your reel In The Same Direction.
Also, you can't stick a pencil into the hole in the filler spool and spin it on like a casting reel.
It will be all twisted up if you do.
A-Jay
Alonerankin2 reply :
Some FC line's are harder than others. I use Shimano & Pflueger reels, Shimano's line management is the best in the business, in my opinion. Pflueger is not bad, but not Shimano good.
I'm not sure what is going on in your case, but I will get a bit of twist on my pflueger before my shimano.. Your #8 could be a bit oversized for that 30 size reel.. Just a guess here...
Alpha Male reply :
It probably got spooled with twist. the best think you can do now is to put a swivel on with a weight and let out 90% of your spool and re-spool it that way.
A-Jay reply :
Easy way to remove line twist ~
While running your boat at a slow & control speed, let all your line out behind the boat.
It's Important that you have NOTHING tied on the end of the line.
Once it's all out, close the bail and just hold it for a minute or two; all the twists will come out.
Then simply reel it all back up.
This is something you can & should consider doing periodically / anytime you're fishing any technique that twists your line - on any rig not just spinning gear.
Good Luck
A-Jay
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
In addition to the previous good suggestions, make sure the line guide roller is operating freely and consider some KVD Line & Lure Conditioner. Use swivels where appropriate. A little line twist is inevitable with spinning tackle. It's really about managing it the best you can.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 1:28 AM, A-Jay said:Set up your filler spool so that the line is spinning off the spool and spinning on to your reel In The Same Direction.
Also, you can't stick a pencil into the hole in the filler spool and spin it on like a casting reel.
It will be all twisted up if you do.
A-Jay
If you use the spindle method, come off the top of the filler spool for casters and off the bottom for spinners and you should be ok
J Francho reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 1:28 AM, A-Jay said:Also, you can't stick a pencil into the hole in the filler spool and spin it on like a casting reel.
It will be all twisted up if you do.
Sure you can. I've been doing it this way for years. Line comes off the spool straight, prefereably from bottom (to not opreserve any memory from the filler spool) reel puts a slight twist in the line. Casting off a lure peels line off spool, reversing that twist. Placing your spools face down or face up, and letting the line runn off the spool is a exercise in "maybe you got it, maybe you didn't." Take a look at a Shimano instruction manual for details on what I mean.
At any rate, the "troll it out" solution gets you where you are with what I detailed above, so, if you have any twist issues, THAT'S YOUR SOLUTION.
Good luck!
A-Jay reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 2:21 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:If you use the spindle method, come off the top of the filler spool for casters and off the bottom for spinners and you should be ok
On 3/26/2015 at 2:31 AM, J Francho said:Sure you can. I've been doing it this way for years. Line comes off the spool straight, prefereably from bottom (to not opreserve any memory from the filler spool) reel puts a slight twist in the line. Casting off a lure peels line off spool, reversing that twist. Placing your spools face down or face up, and letting the line runn off the spool is a exercise in "maybe you got it, maybe you didn't." Take a look at a Shimano instruction manual for details on what I mean.
At any rate, the "troll it out" solution gets you where you are with what I detailed above, so, if you have any twist issues, THAT'S YOUR SOLUTION.
Good luck!
OK - I'll admit that I do not completely understand that actual physics involved here.
I have had some bad experiences when utilizing the pencil method on a spinner regardless or whether it was off the top or the bottom of the spool. But I'm still learning.
Maybe it's like the TP ~
A-Jay
J Francho reply :
Are you a folder or a wrapper?
Wait, TMI!!!!!
A-Jay reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 3:00 AM, J Francho said:Are you a folder or a wrapper?
Wait, TMI!!!!!
LOL ~
One thing's for sure - after this thread, I'm not longer using a Pencil . . . . . .
A-Jay
Glenn reply :
Here's a video that covers more ways to prevent line twist that aren't mentioned in this thread:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/line-twist-spinning-reel.html
Alonerankin2 reply :
Anyone know a video on proper TP etiquette?
Choporoz reply :
Wad over fold
Siebert Outdoors reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 1:50 AM, A-Jay said:Easy way to remove line twist ~
While running your boat at a slow & control speed, let all your line out behind the boat.
It's Important that you have NOTHING tied on the end of the line.
Once it's all out, close the bail and just hold it for a minute or two; all the twists will come out.
Then simply reel it all back up.
This is something you can & should consider doing periodically / anytime you're fishing any technique that twists your line - on any rig not just spinning gear.
Good Luck
A-Jay
Exactly what I was going to post.
A-Jay reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 4:57 AM, Siebert Outdoors said:Exactly what I was going to post.
Thank you for the support
One or twice a year I manage to string together a couple of coherent sentences . . .
Looks like I may have peaked a little early this year.
A-Jay
The Fisher reply :
Thanks for the input. I spool it counter clockwise coming off the spool which I lay flat on the ground. I think some KVD line conditioner and taking some line off the spool might help. Otherwise I'll just take enough off to use the fluoro as backing and go with my AN 40 which has given me no problem over the years. The reel,is smooth and I don't think the Pflueger is the problem.
Krappiehog reply :
I bought a Plano line box and I spool up out of it.. Line off the bottom of the spool. It has stopped all my problems! I seen a video by Aaron Martin and he has a large cardboard box he spools out of.
Spinning from under or off the bottom
Baitcasters from over the top.... Has worked great!
AQUA VELVA reply :
I have a spare Shimano spool spindle I just chuck in a cordless drill and snap the spool onto. I guide the line on by hand with the filler spool off to the side. Been doing it that way for years without a problem. Spinning reels seem to be line twisters by their very nature so at some point you will have to troll your lureless line out behind your boat to untwist it.
WRB reply :
If you have a boat, you can untwist the line by running the line behind the boat at walking speed. Make sure nothing is tied onto the end of the line. As the boat is moving forward let out about 150' of line and run it for about 2 to 3 minutes. Put the boat in neutral and reel the line back on using your thumb and index finger to keep slight pressure as the line get near the boat. Twist will be gone.
KVD does little to wet line. Get TangleFree line conditioner and apply a few drops onto the spooled line. With FC you need to reapply about every hour in hot dry weather.
Also make sure the bail roller is free turning, put a drop of reel oil on the roller.
Tom
Alpha Male reply :
You guys all say to have nothing on your line... I always use a snap swivel with a weight.
J Francho reply :
Works best with nothing on the line.
MickD reply :
I have always been taught to have the line loop off the stationary spool in the opposite direction as the line goes onto the reel. Meaning if the reel rotor is going clockwise looking at the front of the reel the line should loop off the line spool counterclockwise looking at the spool face.
However, I do remember that some of my Shimanos recommend spooling up off a rotating spool. It was described in the owner's manual that came with the reel.
Check out your instruction manual. Also, when adding line to the reel, do it while tensioning it a bit while cranking it on. You don't want it really tight, but you also don't want it loose.
MickD reply :
I forgot to mention that all flouros are not created equal, and some are so stiff they are real pains in the butt. And I have trouble making them work at all. Even 8 pound flouro can be a problem. The most forgiving line for a spinning reel is braid. I use a lot of braid with flouro leaders (doesn't matter how stiff the 3-4 foot leader is) joined with double uni knots. If you want a really sweet casting setup try 10 pound Power Pro with a 15 pound flouro leader. If you are not a braid user you need to know you don't want to break off snags by wrapping the line around your hand and pulling. You can get cut that way. Point the rod directly at the snag, lock the spool with your hand, and then pull. No cut hands, no broken rods.
matuka reply :
Hey Fisher, nobody has asked you what lure you are throwing. There are a lot of my soft plastics which will spin if reeled in just a bit too fast. Leaches, and reapers come to mind. Almost anything you dropshot has the same tendency. It may have nothing to do with your equipment either way. And just my $.02, 8lb fluoro is my absolute max I'd use on a spinning reel.
WRB reply :
Apologize AJ, didn't read this before I posted, would have saved me the effort, hope the OP gives this a try.On 3/26/2015 at 4:57 AM, Siebert Outdoors said:Exactly what I was going to post.
Tom
The Fisher reply :
On 3/29/2015 at 8:31 AM, matuka said:Hey Fisher, nobody has asked you what lure you are throwing. There are a lot of my soft plastics which will spin if reeled in just a bit too fast. Leaches, and reapers come to mind. Almost anything you dropshot has the same tendency. It may have nothing to do with your equipment either way. And just my $.02, 8lb fluoro is my absolute max I'd use on a spinning reel.
Using it for 4" Keitech Swing Impacts on a 1/4 oz worm nose jig head and weightless 4" Senkos.
matuka reply :
Although those aren't my usual suspects, you might want to test them in a pool or pond where you can track it on a quick retrieve anyway.
BobP reply :
I've found underfilling the spool by about 1/4" prevents line jumping off the spool best for me. Enough that I expect to use a spool of any brand 8 lb fluoro for a whole season.
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