Swimbait Fishing 2024
Las_Vegas_Bass_Fishing reply :
I was wondering what lb test line would be the best for swimbaits 1-4 ounces?
J Francho reply :
I use 20# P-Line CXX.
Mike L reply :
If you mean 1/4 oz soft hollow body swim baits, I use 30lb braid in the shallow grassy lakes of Central and So Florida. And wouldn't change.
If you mean those big, 3 treble, wooden/plastic suckers sorry I can't help you.
Mike
Ozark_Basser reply :
Ive always used heavy braid with a 20 # mono leader. I think I remember Butch Brown saying somewhere he uses 15 lb invizx for 8" hudds.
livetofish28 reply :
I use 20# izorline platinum pretty good stuff have never broke a bait off even with those dreaded overruns it's held my line thru trout well
Tight lines
Andrew
gulfcaptain reply :
20lb for baits under 8" and then 25lb if I'm throwing anything 8" or better.
gobig reply :
Depends on the bait. Some I throw on 12# and others up to 20#.
Crestliner2008 reply :
I tried braid with the BBZ-1 and it was awful. Lost two nice fish. I believe I ripped it away from them too fast. Tried heavier fluoro which was not friendly to my Ambassadeur 6000. Finally settled on 25# test Triple Fish Perlon Monofilament. Casts beautifully. Some stretch, but not hard to get use to. And hook sets are more positive, for me anyway.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
20CXX for baits up to the Deps 250, 25 CXX for anything over that generally speaking. There are baits I will also throw on 20lb fluoro.
hatrix reply :
Depends but generally for me its 15-20 for those ranges. I throw a lot of CXX in 17# for baits in that range. It is plenty strong enough and I have total confidence in it.
Dogmatic reply :
On 4/8/2015 at 12:19 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:20CXX for baits up to the Deps 250, 25 CXX for anything over that generally speaking. There are baits I will also throw on 20lb fluoro.
Ditto...minus the fluoro, but adding titanium leaders(Hunting toothy critters), and also down sizing to 15# for those smaller baits.
Kevin22 reply :
Im throwing a 1.25oz 5 incher on 15# fluoro (jig rod). Anything bigger and i think i would go to 20#.
SirSnookalot reply :
The heaviest lures I use are around 2 oz some times a bit heavier. The rods I use to handle those lure weights have 20# braid. One exception (not spooled at the present time) is using 14# silver thread with a lure coming in at about 2 oz., the advantage is being able to troll my line out.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
On 4/8/2015 at 3:34 PM, SirSnookalot said:The heaviest lures I use are around 2 oz some times a bit heavier. The rods I use to handle those lure weights have 20# braid. One exception (not spooled at the present time) is using 14# silver thread with a lure coming in at about 2 oz., the advantage is being able to troll my line out.
Spinning gear, right?
buzzed bait reply :
^ yeah I'd never want to toss those on 20# braid on a baitcaster. one backlash and say adios to the bait. and with 20# braid on a baitcaster i'd expect to backlash a time or two.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 4/8/2015 at 8:20 PM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Spinning gear, right?
Yep
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
20lb braid on a baitcaster throwing 1-4oz lures is a bad situation waiting to happen.
We know you're the anti-big gear guy and that's cool, but suggesting 20lb braid for swimbaits is going to cost someone some money.
J Francho reply :
It's not just the OP, either. Dozens upon dozens read these threads, and take what some say as gospel.
stkbassn reply :
I'm going to try 15# Senshi for my 6 inch Hudds and Ospreys this year. I think it will be fine. It's open water where I fish these. Using a Lews BB2 and IROD Jr Swim Rod...Anyone using Senshi for this or other applications? First time for me but read nothing but good things...
J Francho reply :
It's 6 to 1 in favor of heavier line.
stkbassn reply :
On 4/9/2015 at 2:02 AM, J Francho said:It's 6 to 1 in favor of heavier line.
Okay, I'll bite. What is the reason exactly for the heavier line? is it integrity of the line from use with heavier baits or is it because a lot of guys are fishing for 10 plus trophy largemouth? The lake where I fish is strictly smallies and so far none over 6 pounds have hit the deck...we know there are bigger ones but I don't suspect any over 8....could be though.
J Francho reply :
Insurance. Baits are expensive and it doesn't cost bites to go up.
stkbassn reply :
On 4/9/2015 at 2:18 AM, J Francho said:Insurance. Baits are expensive and it doesn't cost bites to go up.
Fair enough. The BB2 should hold plenty of 20#. I think Senshi is thin diameter so I could do that.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
In some open water or clear water instances, I'd be ok with 15 on a Hudd 68 top hook.
If it's a weedless bait or if I didnt have the option for multiple setups, I'd bump up to 20.
rippin-lips reply :
I have #20 big game on now, but I'll be respooling with #20 Cxx here soon to start the new season.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 4/8/2015 at 11:44 PM, SPEEDBEAD. said:20lb braid on a baitcaster throwing 1-4oz lures is a bad situation waiting to happen.
We know you're the anti-big gear guy and that's cool, but suggesting 20lb braid for swimbaits is going to cost someone some money.
The OP made no mention of the intended reel, 20# braid on spinning is just fine with a 1-4 oz. lure, it's what I use everyday.
Braid on b/c could be a problem with a heavier lure, I don't much about that as it's just about all spinning here. The conventional reels are mostly used for bait fishing, those can get pretty heavy duty. A mh-hvy rod with max ratings of 2.5 or 3 oz. using a 13 oz spinning reel is by no means a light outfit, quite capable of handling some good sized fish. Not being familiar I did have to look up the stats of what appears to be a popular reel, caluctta 400.
The calcutta weighs 11.7 oz, 24" IPT, max drag 17.5, my cabos are 13.2 oz, 33" IPT with a max drag of 30#. The cabo does hold less line but 250 +yds of 20# braid is more than enough. I would contend I'm not fishing light, this is one of my everyday combos.
I do bass and peacock fish every day too, for this I do not care to fish heavy gear. I'n not anti big gear, for me it's big gear for bigger fish and small gear gear for smaller fish. The fun comes from the fight, not the over powering of the fish.
IAY reply :
Totally understand your philosophy, but you don't want thin lines to overpower your wallet either...
hatrix reply :
I think it depends on the line you choose really. They are not all made equally. Even in the same # test the diamater can vary and so does the actual breaking strength. Not to mention how much stretch a line has depending on brand and it's # rating. If you go with CXX 17# is pretty good for the weights you have listed.
Kevin22 reply :
20# braid on anything over 1/2oz just isnt smart economics. Unless you have tons of money to spend of course. One little loop or line crossover with a baitcaster and a 2oz bait means a lost $20 swimbait. There is not enough shock absorbment in that thin line. Ive seen guys sail spinnerbaits and jigs because of 10-20# braid. Itd turn my gut to watch a $70 mattlures go flying into open water.
Kevin22 reply :
On 4/9/2015 at 3:28 AM, SirSnookalot said:The OP made no mention of the intended reel, 20# braid on spinning is just fine with a 1-4 oz. lure, it's what I use everyday.
Braid on b/c could be a problem with a heavier lure, I don't much about that as it's just about all spinning here. The conventional reels are mostly used for bait fishing, those can get pretty heavy duty. A mh-hvy rod with max ratings of 2.5 or 3 oz. using a 13 oz spinning reel is by no means a light outfit, quite capable of handling some good sized fish. Not being familiar I did have to look up the stats of what appears to be a popular reel, caluctta 400.
The calcutta weighs 11.7 oz, 24" IPT, max drag 17.5, my cabos are 13.2 oz, 33" IPT with a max drag of 30#. The cabo does hold less line but 250 +yds of 20# braid is more than enough. I would contend I'm not fishing light, this is one of my everyday combos.
I do bass and peacock fish every day too, for this I do not care to fish heavy gear. I'n not anti big gear, for me it's big gear for bigger fish and small gear gear for smaller fish. The fun comes from the fight, not the over powering of the fish.
You are in an extreme minority using spinning rods for 4oz swimbaits. Maybe not in the saltwater, but this is a bass site with members across the country. You have to take that into consideration when posting. It could cost somebody a lot of money who read your previous suggestion and not this post explaining that it was for a saltwater spinning rod.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 4/9/2015 at 5:07 AM, Kevin22 said:20# braid on anything over 1/2oz just isnt smart economics. Unless you have tons of money to spend of course. One little loop or line crossover with a baitcaster and a 2oz bait means a lost $20 swimbait. There is not enough shock absorbment in that thin line. Ive seen guys sail spinnerbaits and jigs because of 10-20# braid. Itd turn my gut to watch a $70 mattlures go flying into open water.
If you can't afford to lose a lure you shouldn't be using it in the first place, smart economics is not to buy it. Certainly not a condemnation of expensive lures (I use some myself) provided it's in one's budget. I wish Matt all the success in the world selling his lures. This is not an issue of fish species or venue, lures can be cut off or hung up where ever one is fishing. Whether I fish freshwater or saltwater I have toothy critters, rocks, trees, vegetation, barnacles, etc that can separate me from my lure, can happen at any time and it does. As long as my line and knots are in good order my lures don't go flying, not having to worry about backlashes makes spinning my ticket.
I do believe in shock, that's why I always use a leader regardless of fish species or where I'm fishing. Fish Chris has probably caught more DD bass on spinning gear than most have caught with b/c gear. Personally I look at a rod and reel as the delivery system to to get my lure into the target zone.
As I may have a little trouble in understanding the perception of how others fish, the perception on how I fish seems to be problematic. Rest assured I have no problems with what I'm doing.
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