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bps compared to other rods 2024


fishing user avatarrocknfish9001 reply : 

I have a bps bionic blade for my baitcaster, and a bps extreme on my spinning setup. I am quite impressed with these rods, especially for the price range. Now in your opinion, how would a bps extreme or bionic blade compare to a high priced loomis or other big name rod. I have a friend that has a loomis mossy back rod, and i cant really tell a reson to spend $200 on this rod since i notice almost no difference between this rod and mine. I did tell him to get the bronzeback, but he wouldnt listen since its a "smallmouth" rod and he is largemouth fishing, and he really isnt one to reason with things like this. Anyways, i heard that bps rods like the extreme and bionic blade would be in the $150-$200+  price range if made by other companies, is this true? Just wondering and trying to prove a point that my friends $200 rod isnt 2x as good as my $100 rod.


fishing user avatarKYbass1276 reply : 

I like the quality that loomis puts into there rods. Quality means alot to me and Loomis has a great reputation


fishing user avatarNew 2 Bass reply : 

I have 3 Extremes.  I'd tell you to wait till they go on sale.  $70 is pretty good for the Extreme rod.  They go on sale a few time a year.

I wouldn't begin to compare the two rods.  I just think $70 is not bad for that rod.

Al


fishing user avatarGrey Wolf reply : 

Have you ever fished a high end rod ?


fishing user avatarrocknfish9001 reply : 

Ive used some g-loomis rods before. None are mine. They were a little lighter, but i didnt notice a difference in performance otherwise. At least not 100 dollar's worth


fishing user avatarGrey Wolf reply : 

Then your mind is made up.


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 

I fish BPS rods almost exclusivly (cranking sticks, bionic blades, and extremes) and they are great rods for the $$. But lets get real here.........they are not as good as St Croix Avids or above.......or G Loomis's GL3's or above. I have 2 new St Croix's, a Premier and a Triumph(had bought 2 premire's but returned one when I noticed the warrenty card missing, they would only exchange it even up for a Triumph) that I just got, with out fishing them yet, they look and feel as if the will fish in the same class as the BPS rods. I know that I am buying a good $100 rod when I buy an extreme.........and thats as far as it goes.......any one whos says there extreme's are as good as GLX's are only fooling them selves. Same goes the opposite way too, I don't think it's nessacary for high end rod/reel users to crap on those of us who use lower cost stuff. But.........back to the point.........are there more expensive rods that the Bionic blades and extreme's are better than ? Probably, I once had a GL2 Loomis rod, and honestly that rod did not impress me, was it because I expected more out of a rod in that price range? Or was it that the GL2 was over priced........probably a little of both. I think the BPS rods are just what they are.........good rods at there respective prices, but I don't think they are worth more than what BPS sells them for. I have no dillusions thinking my extremes are GLX's........ I will still buy BPS rods, I like them. There lower cost allows me to have multiple combo's for different technques, and I keep the bank account, and more importantly the wife happy by sticking to my promise that I would keep my rod/reel combo's under $200.


fishing user avatardodgeguy reply : 

the johnny morris signature series are as good as ANY ROD MADE!!!


fishing user avatarBass XL reply : 

I would rather buy the bps rods, They are great rods for the price, and, you can put the balancing kit in.


fishing user avatarFishTank reply : 

I have a 7' M Johnny Morris Signature Series casting rod, it is a fine rod and a good value but it pales in comparison to my G. Loomis rods. Yes, it does have an excelent reel seat and maybe the best guides out there but it is no were near close to the sensitivity of a Loomis GLX or IMX. The action is totally different. It is more of a moderate-fast rod. I find that this rod does well with lighter crank baits but not so well with jigs and senko type baits.

I have tried buddy's extreme and tourney special and I thought they were also good rods for the money. It would be hard to find a rod of the same quality at the same price but I would not compare them to higher dollar rods.

Bottom line, I guess, is one needs to fish both and find what fits that persons fishing style, comfort level, and wallet.


fishing user avatarcart7t reply : 

I could go out today and buy a new Ford Mustang GT for around $35k and have a helluva sports car.  Will it perform like a $120K Porsche 911 Turbo?  Of course not.  Then again, in what real life driving situation could I ever expect to be able to use the full capacities of the 911 anyway? In fact, unless I was in a racing situation (in which case even the 911 would still have to be modified), the Mustang could just as easily perform as well as the 911 for day to day driving.  

IMO, once you're spending over $120-140 on a rod, you really start to see a diminished return on the cost.  For those on a budget,  the increased sensitivity and lighter weight of the high end rods are offset by their fragility and cost.  The BPS rods, and the lower price point rods made by other manufacturers are just fine.  Listening to some, it's amazing how anyone caught any fish at all just 10, 15 or 20 years ago when rod technology was in the stone age.   ;D


fishing user avatarBud reply : 
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       the johnny morris signature series are as good as ANY ROD MADE          

someone is dreaming ;D ;D


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

rocknfish9001,

Although rods compare SIGNIFICANLY different at various pricing points, there are dimishing returns for higher priced equipment. If your primary consideration is "value", I think the "best" is a combination around $150 on sale from one of the major retailers. This equates to around $250 retail if purchased seperately. I also think that for the majority of fishermen, rod and reel combinations at this pricing point will be a pleasure to fish and a significant improvement over the gear they are curently using. You will notice a difference, big time.  


fishing user avatarlubina reply : 

I have an Extreme 6.0 M that I like a lot, relatively light and a very confortable handle, I use it primarily for shore fishing. I also have a similar Pro-Qualifier that I think is HORRIBLE!!!!!, completely different from the Extreme and more expensive.


fishing user avatarsenko_77 reply : 
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I have an Extreme 6.0 M that I like a lot, relatively light and a very confortable handle, I use it primarily for shore fishing. I also have a similar Pro-Qualifier that I think is HORRIBLE!!!!!, completely different from the Extreme and more expensive.

Lubina, I will take the pro-qaulifier off your hands.  The Pro-Qualifier is my favorite rod in the bass pro series, and is by far the best deal.  The extremes are nice, but are to heavy.  The bionic blade is ok but I hate the guides, and dont even get me started on the piece of junk we all call the johnny morris.  When I worked at bps, there were bins full of snapped morris's in the warehouse. The graphite content in them is sooooooo high, that even a small ding against the side of your truck will snap it on your next hard hookset.  There pieces of junk IMO, and everyday they had to replace them on the rack as they would snap like a twig from customers playin around with them.  

Now they Pro-Qaulifier rod is the BOMB!!!!  That thing is super sensitive, failry prices, and is beautiful when the sun hits it.  Great guides, nice reel seat, and great balance.  I've had a few g-loomis's and I have a st. croix avid.  The only BPS rod that can even begin to compare to them is the pro-qaulifier.  

Another great bass pro rod is the prolite finesse.  It's so light and real sensitive.  I use it for throwing my Eakins jigs.


fishing user avatarHawgin reply : 

I used to think exactly like you guys, and went out and bought $50-60 reels, and $50-60 rods.  I was happy with them, and then a funny thing happened.  A friend offered to sell me a high quality Fenwick Techna AV for a great price.  I bought it and used it.  Then the next thing I knew I was using it for most applications, and finally I just started carrying one rod with me most of the time.  Now?  I have a pile of cheap rods sitting in a corner of my garage unused, and I have a rod rack full of Fenwick rods, with Shimano reels sitting on them.  

I'm not saying that lower price point rods won't work, because they will and they will catch fish.  If you are comfortable with that, then that's what you should use.  But for me, now that I've used high end equipment I will pay the extra cost for the guaranteed quality.  


fishing user avatarsal669 reply : 

I don't whanna ruffle any feathers here, I just whant to point out some issues:

1- the high price of a high end rod doesn't derive only from the quality; a LOT of that money goes to advertising, company profits and customer satisfaction ( design, warranty, 24 hour customer service, and so on).Yes, there is extra quality too, but the proportion is not lineal : for 3x the price you will get 10-20% more quality (for example)

2-You have to compare rods designed for the same tipe of application (or multiple applications) I bet a Loomis drop shot rod would suck for carolina rigging, even though it's a high quality rod.

3-You have to ballance out the outfit. For example lets take drop shotting at 40-60 feet depth: there is no reaso spending $350 on a Loomis rod and pair it with an averege reel spooled with 6# trileneXL (soft line with a lot of strech).You would have a lot more sensitivity using an average rod paired with braided line on a very good reel ( you need excellent drag with braids, if you don't whanna ripp the hook out of the fishes mouth when getting close to the boat)

4- Look for the bargains( sales, model close-outs, year end clearance, etc.)You could end up with a quality tacke at moderate price.

Finaly, "high quality" will NOT get my money. When I'm going fishing, I'm not going to show off my tackle, I'm going to catch fish and I can accomplish that without going bankrupt. Did you ever wander if  all those pro's on the tour are using top of the line rods and reels?They don't !!! And if by any chanse they do , the manufacturer is sponsoring the fisherman and gave him the product free. Just watch the tourney shows, not the shows where the pro gets paid to advertise, telling you how great a certain rod /reel/bait/etc. is.

Just my 2 cents


fishing user avatarAlpster reply : 
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Then your mind is made up.

Perfect answer Bass Brat. This thread should be over. Some guys that fish with a $50 rod think those that those who fish with $300 rods are stupid and don't have a clue. On the other hand, some guys that fish with a $300 rod think those that fish with $50 rods are stupid and don't have a clue. This argument has been repeated on a 1000 threads, and never seems to get old. It's a good thing everyone doesn't think alike. To each his own. JMHO

Ronnie


fishing user avatarFishTank reply : 

I have one thing to add to this thread and that is I do believe that advertising adds alot to the price.

IMHO, Bass Pro Shop advertises more than any other company.  I get about 8 catalogs a year (I cherish all of them), numerous emails, and they sponsor everything from a Nascar team to every boat on the water.  Just something to think about when you purchase some of their branded equipment.  Again, this is just an opinion.


fishing user avatarHawgin reply : 
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Did you ever wander if all those pro's on the tour are using top of the line rods and reels?They don't !!!

I should really let this go, but that's just not the type of person I am.  I decided to round up the last two years worth of Bassmaster magazine's where they give tourney results and the tackle those pros used to win with.  Let me just hit a few of the winners:

Ish Monroe - Busch Shoot Out:  Team Diawi Steez 7'1" MH baitcast, 6'6" M Steez spinning rod, Steez reels.

Todd Faircloth-Table Rock Lake: 6'8" M Castaway rod, Shimano reel

Mike McClelland-Sooner Run: Falcon rods, Quantum Tour Edition reels

Peter T-The Memorial: 7'6" American Rodsmith, Okuma Nemisis reels

Ike-Guntersville: Daiwa Light and Tough Rods, Diawa Advantage reels

Ish-Amistad: Daiwa Celio rods, Daiwa Fuego reels

Ben Matsubu-Wildcard: Powell rods, Shimano Curado reel

Scott Rook-The Legends: St. Croix Legend rod, Abu Garcia Revo reel

I could go on, but I think I've made the point I wanted.  Of course a lot of them are free to the anglers, because they have earned those sponsorships through hard work, and they obviously approve of the quality of the sponsors equipment.  I don't see any Bionic Blades or Extremes on those lists.


fishing user avatardodgeguy reply : 

Ike-Guntersville: Daiwa Light and Tough Rods, Diawa Advantage reels  = no better than a bass pro johnny morris.it's im6 graphite and regular fuji aluminum oxide guides.

Todd Faircloth-Table Rock Lake: 6'8" M Castaway rod, Shimano reel

Mike McClelland-Sooner Run: Falcon rods, Quantum Tour Edition reels

Peter T-The Memorial: 7'6" American Rodsmith, Okuma Nemisis reels

all 3 of these are on par with a top of the line bass pro combo pricewise .

the only setup that's really out there is ish monroes.


fishing user avatarHawgin reply : 

Dodgeguy-

 I don't disagree with your assesment that those are comparable to the Johnny Morris line, but the JM line also falls in a pricing point similar to a lot of high end equipment.  The Johnny Morris rods run in the same pricing category as Fenwick Techna AV's, Team All Star, St. Croix Avid, Kistler Magnesium, and the top end Quantums, Shimanos, etc.  I consider JM rods to be a high quality product, and it is priced accordingly.  GLoomis is a whole different story on it's own, and I even am of the opinion that they are overpriced for what they are.  I think the Fenwick, St. Croix, and Kistler are very competitive with Loomis at a more reasonable price, however I won't come on here and try to tell anyone that fishes with Loomis that there is no difference between a GLX and and BPS Extreme.


fishing user avatarCaptain Chaos II reply : 

The debate continues....I have quite a few BPS rods and getting a bionic blade for a spinning outfit this year.  Luv them for their purposes.

BUT.....I'm also gonna get a higher end rod this year to experience what a quality rod is all about.  If you go to BPS pick up an extreme rod for example, then go over and feel a higher end Loomis.  You will notice the change in weight right off the bat.  That doesn't even account for other differences in components.

Either way, you can catch a bass.  They don't know if you are fishing with BPS gear, Walmart gear or a Loomis.  It is personal preference on how you wanna fish.....


fishing user avatardodgeguy reply : 
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Dodgeguy-

I don't disagree with your assesment that those are comparable to the Johnny Morris line, but the JM line also falls in a pricing point similar to a lot of high end equipment. The Johnny Morris rods run in the same pricing category as Fenwick Techna AV's, Team All Star, St. Croix Avid, Kistler Magnesium, and the top end Quantums, Shimanos, etc. I consider JM rods to be a high quality product, and it is priced accordingly. GLoomis is a whole different story on it's own, and I even am of the opinion that they are overpriced for what they are. I think the Fenwick, St. Croix, and Kistler are very competitive with Loomis at a more reasonable price, however I won't come on here and try to tell anyone that fishes with Loomis that there is no difference between a GLX and and BPS Extreme.

agree %100!!! ;D


fishing user avatarhitormiss reply : 
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I could go out today and buy a new Ford Mustang GT for around $35k and have a helluva sports car.  Will it perform like a $120K Porsche 911 Turbo?  Of course not.   ;D

It depends a lot on who's driving. Same with fishing equipment. You can't buy fishing skill just like you can't buy a good golf swing. The fish have no clue what you are holding in your hand, just how you presented what is in front of them. Just my $.02.


fishing user avatarMitchIsFishin reply : 

Whew, what a war!!! I understand that Gloomis/St Croix are highly regarded, but I agree that those who have shouldn't rip those who are the have nots & vic versa. Many good/great rods out there, and I just got a Falcon, and a bps bionic blade/diawa procaster 6+1 since it was on sale as a combo. I played with loomis rods, and I believe once I get a handle on baitcasting, that may be the rod, (I have a new Avid & not even certain I can appreciate it yet), but  loving this site & forum as I do, I sure hope those who DO own higher end rods can help us who DON'T own higher end rods with catching fish.  


fishing user avatarhi_steel_basser reply : 

I recently had a BPS Extreme rod break on me on the water. I replaced it with a G Loomis IMX. The difference is unbelievable. I cannot begin to describe the added sensitivity, the benefits of the lighter weight, or the better quality of the rod overall to someone who doesn't know. All I can say is that I will buy high end whenever I can afford it, because the difference is easily noticed by someone who knows  their equipment. The Johnny Morris series is good for the money if you buy the combo on sale. Otherwise, get a Falcon or G Loomis or another top name rod and prepare to be blown away.


fishing user avatarsenko_77 reply : 

Doesn't Edwin Evers use the Pro Qaulifier rods exclusively?


fishing user avatardodgeguy reply : 

yes he does.what cracks me up is guys comparing the extreme to a loomis.at least compare the best rod bps has.i've fished my friends glx rods and i've fished my johnny morris rods.the glx ain't got nothing on the johnny morris rod.now i'm not saying the glx isn't a great rod i'm just saying it isn't any more sensitive than a johnny morris rod.on top of that the guides went bad on 10 glx rods he used with powerpro.i've never had that problem with the titanium framed fuji silicone carbide guides on the johnny morris.


fishing user avatarcastaway reply : 

DodgeGuy, The last time I knew, the Daiwa light and Tough was priced lower than your Johnny Morris rods ? :o

Buy whatever brand of rod you want as long as you get out there to fish with it, what else really matters ?

As for the debate,I haven't  received my GLoomis rod yet, I am thinking tomorrow is when I will be getting it, but I have no doubt that it is going to be a great rod.The fact that so many people here who have nothing but good to say about them is a statement in its self.That many people cannot be wrong.

I  personally think the Bass pro shop rod line up was nothing more than a marketing scheme to provide different rod series that targets potential customers based on their income level, or spending habits.

Why would anyone pay regular price for a Bass pro shop rod when you can wait a little while later and buy the same rod on sale ? Don't worry if you missed that sale, because in a little while, they will have another sale on them. ;)Their Crankin stick is the best rod they make, after owning 2, I am not sorry I ever paid full price for them , they are a real workhorse of a rod for the full price , let alone the sale price. ;DIvan


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 

Like I said, I love my Extreme's + Bionic blades, cheap, reliable, sensitve, light (enough), and I seem to be one of the few to admit they are no GLX. I have only handled Johnny Morris rods, are they that good Dodgeguy?? If so I might get off the wallet and get one some day, as a BPS combo of corse. Untill then I'll fish my Bionic Blades, and Extreme's. This might not mean much to some of you but one reason (other than beeing a cheap SOB) that I fish BPS rods is the continuity of how they feel in my hand, I have used them so long, I know what each rod is or is not capable of,  no surprises, I have tried other rods in the past, but always go back to my BPS rods.


fishing user avatarskillet reply : 

 Hope I don't get laughed at with parts of this post but: I was using 'glass rods with Zebco 33's until the early 80's using mostly jigs, worms and spinner baits. Even with the 'glass rods I thought I could feel the bites on the worms and jigs "pretty good" (relative term I guess).

 After that I got a Garcia Ultra-Mag on a (I think) Diawa Pro-Caster Boron rod. I thought I had died and gone to bass gear heaven.

 My wife got a young Boxer puppy that was destructive when left alone. We went somewhere one night and left him in the garage. He ate my Pro-Caster down so close to the handle, there wasn't even enough left to beat him with it (joke, don't want the PETA people after me). I thought...The Miss. R. is only a mile or so from our house and tow sacks are so cheap, but the biscuit burning, egg-sucking hound is still with us. Haven't forgiven him but he is still around (has to say something about my self-control ).

 Having said all that to say this, you can catch fish with all different ranges of gear. I've never got to fish with upper end rods (so maybe ignorance is bliss) but compared to what I've fished with before and my budget, the BPS rods get the job done really well. That's not to say that if and when I can afford one of those afore mentioned rods I wouldn't jump at the chance  in a minute !!

 I'll inflict ya'll no more with myself on this subject (I should hope, I don't type well and my fingers are in knots).....

                                                    As Ever,

                                                     Skillet


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

Rod discussions are always amusing because they're mainly subjective.

With price in mind, I think the world of the Bionic Blade, they're super little shafts.

For twice the price however, I'm about 3 times happier with the Daiwa Light and Tough.

Again, it's not about right or wrong, it's merely one's personal opinion of feel, function and latitude.

Everyone isn't fishing the same way, so we're not all looking for the same thing.

Roger


fishing user avatarhi_steel_basser reply : 
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yes he does.what cracks me up is guys comparing the extreme to a loomis.at least compare the best rod bps has.i've fished my friends glx rods and i've fished my johnny morris rods.the glx ain't got nothing on the johnny morris rod.now i'm not saying the glx isn't a great rod i'm just saying it isn't any more sensitive than a johnny morris rod.on top of that the guides went bad on 10 glx rods he used with powerpro.i've never had that problem with the titanium framed fuji silicone carbide guides on the johnny morris.

FYI, Dodgeguy, I own and use a Johnny morris combo as well. I would throw it in the trash for another Loomis/Shimano combo, if I could afford to.


fishing user avatardodgeguy reply : 
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yes he does.what cracks me up is guys comparing the extreme to a loomis.at least compare the best rod bps has.i've fished my friends glx rods and i've fished my johnny morris rods.the glx ain't got nothing on the johnny morris rod.now i'm not saying the glx isn't a great rod i'm just saying it isn't any more sensitive than a johnny morris rod.on top of that the guides went bad on 10 glx rods he used with powerpro.i've never had that problem with the titanium framed fuji silicone carbide guides on the johnny morris.

FYI, Dodgeguy, I own and use a Johnny morris combo as well. I would throw it in the trash for another Loomis/Shimano combo, if I could afford to.

before you do that send it to me!!!


fishing user avatartunnelengineer reply : 

What does Kevin Van Dam or Rick Clunn use?  These two guys are arguably the best fisherman for the last 15 years.  Even though they are sponsored by BPS, what equipment do they use? I would love to find out.....


fishing user avatarHawgin reply : 
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What does Kevin Van Dam or Rick Clunn use? These two guys are arguably the best fisherman for the last 15 years. Even though they are sponsored by BPS, what equipment do they use? I would love to find out.....

I'm pretty sure that Rick Clunn uses his name branded BPS rods, and possibly his named branded reels.  I know for a fact that KVD uses all Quantum equipment.  He uses the Energy PT and Tour Edition PT reels and rods.


fishing user avatarPond-Pro reply : 

;) I just bought a 6'6" medeim action Shakespeare Durango for $7 at wallmart.  ;D

I thought I would just through that into this conversation.  :o


fishing user avatarAlpster reply : 
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:) I just bought a 6'6" medeim action Shakespeare Durango for $7 at wallmart.  ;D

I thought I would just through that into this conversation.  :o

EXCELLENT! Pond-Pro! Now start a thread asking about the best reel to pair that beauty up with. Congratulations on the new rod.  ;)

Ronnie


fishing user avatarsal669 reply : 

I stand corrected, HAWGIN.

I didn't specify what I understand by "top of the line". In my opinion  that is a $350-650 reel paired with a $250-350 rod. Let' say $500 and up for a combo.

On your list only Ish Monroe qualifies.

Of course they ALL use quality stuff :there livelihood depends on having depandeble, quality tools.They are nog gonna go out there and try to make a living with a Scooby-doo outfit.

Ike used Daiwa Advantage reels -$100

Ben Matsubu- on the crancbait rod used BPS Johnny Morris reel

Shimano Curado is used by a lot of tourny guys, but is far from beeing the most expansive shimano( Calais @ $650)

Denny Brauer at Lake Champlain used daiwa TDX rod&reels; not the most expansive( Steez @ $450)

You see what I meen ?

I apologise if I ruffled any feathers, I will have no more comments on this issue.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

Fishtank, thanks for the info on the JM 7' medium rod. I have a 7' MH, and it's a very good soft plastics rods. I'd call it fast action, not moderate. I'm in the market for a lighter power, more moderate action rod for tubes and flukes. I've been trying to make up my mind between the JM 7' M, and Avid 6'8" M and a Daiwa Light & Tough 7' M.  I'd almost eliminated the JM from consideration based on my experience with the MH one I have. Nothing wrong with it, mind you. It's just too stiff for what I want in a fluke rod. I'll have to add it back to the mix, based on your comments.

To answer the original question, the only BPS rod I own is the Johnny Morris. I'll almost agree with Dodgeguy. It is a great rod, for the price. I don't have any top of the line rods. The three I mentioned above are the best rods I  own. I currently have one of each, in different sizes than quoted above. These three, in my mind, are the leaders in the most bang for the buck category. And for my money, right now, the Light & Tough rods are the best thing going, for the price.

I just can't justify spending $300+ for a rod. For those of you who can, more power to ya. I've used a GLX that a friend of mine has, and found it to be the all time best feeling rod I've ever had in my hands. I admit that freely. I just won't spend that much on rod. I can afford to, I choose not to.

These rod debates are always fun to read. And to participate in.

Cheers,

GK


fishing user avatarcastaway reply : 
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They are nog gonna go out there and try to make a living with a Scooby-doo outfit.

That is what we need.A high end Shimano , or Daiwa Scooby doo outfit.Life would get a bit better if we had that option.  Ivan


fishing user avatarLil Baby Cousin Ray-Ray reply : 

i agree someone should start a petition and while they are at it why not teenage mutant ninja turtles


fishing user avatarcart7t reply : 
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 Hope I don't get laughed at with parts of this post but: I was using 'glass rods with Zebco 33's until the early 80's using mostly jigs, worms and spinner baits. Even with the 'glass rods I thought I could feel the bites on the worms and jigs "pretty good" (relative term I guess).

 After that I got a Garcia Ultra-Mag on a (I think) Diawa Pro-Caster Boron rod. I thought I had died and gone to bass gear heaven.

 My wife got a young Boxer puppy that was destructive when left alone. We went somewhere one night and left him in the garage. He ate my Pro-Caster down so close to the handle, there wasn't even enough left to beat him with it (joke, don't want the PETA people after me). I thought...The Miss. R. is only a mile or so from our house and tow sacks are so cheap, but the biscuit burning, egg-sucking hound is still with us. Haven't forgiven him but he is still around (has to say something about my self-control ).

 Having said all that to say this, you can catch fish with all different ranges of gear. I've never got to fish with upper end rods (so maybe ignorance is bliss) but compared to what I've fished with before and my budget, the BPS rods get the job done really well. That's not to say that if and when I can afford one of those afore mentioned rods I wouldn't jump at the chance  in a minute !!

 I'll inflict ya'll no more with myself on this subject (I should hope, I don't type well and my fingers are in knots).....

                                                    As Ever,

                                                     Skillet

Thanks Skillet.  

It's hard to believe I could ever catch a fish way back 25-30 years ago fishing with those pool cue Lew's Speed Sticks or gasp, those old Eagle Claw glass worm rods I had.. Geezz,

Hell, the early Graphite rods that came out used to snap way too easy but we put up with them because of the unbelievable sensitivity.  Apparently I wasn't feeling anything!   ;D

Obviously I need to load up on GLX's just so I can tell the difference between a rock on the bottom and a fish fart.  :o


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I have a 7' M Johnny Morris Signature Series casting rod, it is a fine rod and a good value but it pales in comparison to my G. Loomis rods. Yes, it does have an excelent reel seat and maybe the best guides out there but it is no were near close to the sensitivity of a Loomis GLX or IMX. The action is totally different. It is more of a moderate-fast rod. I find that this rod does well with lighter crank baits but not so well with jigs and senko type baits.

I have tried buddy's extreme and tourney special and I thought they were also good rods for the money. It would be hard to find a rod of the same quality at the same price but I would not compare them to higher dollar rods.

Bottom line, I guess, is one needs to fish both and find what fits that persons fishing style, comfort level, and wallet.

The 150 dollar jm pales in comparison. no where near close to the sensitivity as a 400 dollar glx. I have never fished with either of these rods but i wouldnt expect a 150 dollar rod to be compared to a 400 dollar rod.

The bps extreme at 100 dollars and bps tourney special at 50 dollars cant be compared to anything gloomis makes except maybe the 140 dollar gl2 which is nearly 3x the price as the tourney special. all of the rest of gloomis rods are in a class above anything with bps on it.

Does anyone know who makes the BPS rod blanks?




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