I'm and looking for a good mono fishing line and want to know which line you think is best. My choices so far are Mccoy Mean Green or Mason Bass On or T-line . I was also considering Silver Thread AN40, and another line that I've never seen before that's available is Mason Walleye Premium Coplymer (for bass too) - if you heard about or used these lines and could compare this to the rest mentioned I would appreciate your response. Thanks in advance.
I want to put 17 lb on my Shimano Baitfeeder 4500B and 8 lb (or 6 lb -which would you recommend?) on my lighter Okuma Avenger ABF-30b, both are spinning reels with the baitfeeder option so the fish can take off with the line until you set the hook. Mason Walleye Premium only goes up to 15 lb test.
I mostly river fish but also fish in lakes and ponds often.
I would bottom fish with the larger reel and jig, lure, bottom, bobber fish with the smaller reel.
Real Considerations:
1. Knot strength
2. Casting Ability
3. Abrasion Resistance/Durability
4. Hard to see under water
5. Limp - low or no memory
Braid with flouro leader.
Berkley Trilene XL low-vis green.
I am a huge fan of McCoy. I use their Mean Green and their Xtra Clear. I haven't had a problem with either! Great line, American Made!!!
Berkley Big Game the real mean green!
On 7/2/2015 at 5:09 PM, illinifan4152 said:I am a huge fan of McCoy. I use their Mean Green and their Xtra Clear. I haven't had a problem with either! Great line, American Made!!!
X2... I use their Clear Blue Fluorescent for line watching and night fishing. Better than Silver Thread, but I've never tried Mason's.
For everything you listed I'd have to say Berkley Big Game is about as good as it gets, it does have a fair amount of stretch in the 8lb and 10lb but is quite reasonable in larger sizes. As for other lines, this season I've been using Spider wire Ultimate Mono in 6lb, 8lb, 10lb, and 14lb, and it is super thin and wicked strong with very little stretch but it has more memory than a lot of mono but with the very little stretch you get it is understandable. It still handles better than fluorocarbon and if you like fluorocarbon but wanted something a little more manageable I'd suggest this line.
Excalibur Silver Thread copolymer. Been using it for two decades now.
mccoy
X3 on the Trilene Big Game. I've been using it for many years with no complaints.
Tom
Sunline! Best mono ive ever used
This also, I don't think id want 17# on a spinning reel.On 7/2/2015 at 4:00 PM, Jar11591 said:Berkley Trilene XL low-vis green.
Mccoy is great
Seaguar Senshi
Out of your choices, I would go with McCoy. If I had my choice, i would go with either Trilene XL, Big Game or for crank baits I like Seagur Senshi.
If price isn't a big factor then Sunline Diefer Armilo Nylon is excellent mono, smallest lb test is 11 lb @ .010 diameter.
If price is a factor then Sunline Super Natural mono, available in 4 lb to 25 lb.
Tom
PS, McCoy Mean Green mono 6 lb is .010 diameter, same as Sunline 10 or 11 lb, diameter matters, not misleading labels.
On 7/2/2015 at 5:40 PM, Catt said:Berkley Big Game the real mean green!
I agree, it's the only Mono I use now.
There is none better than Sunline Defier. For real. Worth every penny
I'm a fan of Big Game but a couple of years ago trilene xl was reformulated and it is my favorite. It is limp and strong . I've been throwing lighter weight lures longer distances and havent had a catastrophic line failure yet . I have caught quite a few 6 and 7 lb bass with it .I've been fishiing 12 lb test mostly .
I believe that limp lines are "sometimes" stronger than stiff lines and heavier test lines. How can 12 lb test be stronger than say 15 ? It seems to me , that a small diameter limp line will have less stress on the knot on a thin wire hook. A larger diameter will weaken because of the extreme bend placed on it . I have not tested that idea . I could be wrong but it makes sense to me .
On 7/3/2015 at 8:39 AM, WRB said:If price isn't a big factor then Sunline Diefer Armilo Nylon is excellent mono, smallest lb test is 11 lb @ .010 diameter.
If price is a factor then Sunline Super Natural mono, available in 4 lb to 25 lb.
Tom
PS, McCoy Mean Green mono 6 lb is .010 diameter, same as Sunline 10 or 11 lb, diameter matters, not misleading labels.
Tom, do you fish jigs on Armilo now, or fluoro?
Thanks,
I like big game and XL but I would take XL over big game. It's is actually some nice line and pretty cheap. Both can be had at Walmart.
Not yet, still using Sunline Super Sniper green 14 lb for jigs and worms.On 7/3/2015 at 11:15 PM, deep said:Tom, do you fish jigs on Armilo now, or fluoro?
Thanks,
Tom
On 7/3/2015 at 11:15 PM, deep said:Tom, do you fish jigs on Armilo now, or fluoro?
Thanks,
I use it for jigs, it's terrific.
Bg for life
I like P-Line and Maxima for baitcasting.
Berkely XL for spinning.
On a baitrunner i would say 30lb braid to either maxima mono or seaguar or xps flouro
On 7/2/2015 at 2:58 PM, Floyd_Crook said:I'm and looking for a good mono fishing line and want to know which line you think is best. My choices so far are Mccoy Mean Green or Mason Bass On or T-line . I was also considering Silver Thread AN40, and another line that I've never seen before that's available is Mason Walleye Premium Coplymer (for bass too) - if you heard about or used these lines and could compare this to the rest mentioned I would appreciate your response. Thanks in advance.
I want to put 17 lb on my Shimano Baitfeeder 4500B and 8 lb (or 6 lb -which would you recommend?) on my lighter Okuma Avenger ABF-30b, both are spinning reels with the baitfeeder option so the fish can take off with the line until you set the hook. Mason Walleye Premium only goes up to 15 lb test.I mostly river fish but also fish in lakes and ponds often. I would bottom fish with the larger reel and jig, lure, bottom, bobber fish with the smaller reel.Real Considerations:1. Knot strength2. Casting Ability3. Abrasion Resistance/Durability4. Hard to see under water5. Limp - low or no memory
Not sure how much you've used these reels as I also have both as well but use more for saltwater applications. The bait feeder options do NOT work from hook setting motion. They click back into gear when the handles are turned. If your plan to use the 4500 for bass fishing I would seriously reconsider unless your 6'6" and 300lbs. It's a pretty heavy reel to try to work any type of baits with. The okuma is more towards the size I MAY consider for bass for your jigging applications and such. Still a little on the heavy side to use all day. I would consider using braid to save some piece of mind as both tend to allow line to loosen up with straight mono on them. The only way you can and will prevent it is to have a constant pressure on your line. They are great reels for bait fishing for larger species of fish but aren't best suited for strictly bass fishing and especially for moving type baits that need to be constantly caster and retrieved. Just my opinion but as I said before I do own both and love them both but you'd be better suited for bass fishing with a couple different reels then those.
On 7/3/2015 at 10:01 PM, scaleface said:I'm a fan of Big Game but a couple of years ago trilene xl was reformulated and it is my favorite. It is limp and strong . I've been throwing lighter weight lures longer distances and havent had a catastrophic line failure yet . I have caught quite a few 6 and 7 lb bass with it .I've been fishiing 12 lb test mostly .
I believe that limp lines are "sometimes" stronger than stiff lines and heavier test lines. How can 12 lb test be stronger than say 15 ? It seems to me , that a small diameter limp line will have less stress on the knot on a thin wire hook. A larger diameter will weaken because of the extreme bend placed on it . I have not tested that idea . I could be wrong but it makes sense to me .
Wouldn't this theory depend on which knots your using?
On 7/7/2015 at 12:34 PM, Shanes7614 said:Wouldn't this theory depend on which knots your using?
Dont know why. A kink will be the weakest part of an otherwise undamaged line , so the smaller the hook diameter the more a line is kinked .
Kinks are caused by knots... Are they not?
On 7/7/2015 at 8:40 PM, scaleface said:Dont know why. A kink will be the weakest part of an otherwise undamaged line , so the smaller the hook diameter the more a line is kinked .
The eye of your hooks aren't square are they? What would cause the kink on your hook? Your knot...
I don't know or use a ton of different knots myself but check out knot wars on YouTube. Will explain a lot of where these kinks as you say are coming from.
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On 7/7/2015 at 11:36 PM, Shanes7614 said:The eye of your hooks aren't square are they? What would cause the kink on your hook? Your knot...
Being square has nothing to do with iit .Think about it . You dont think a line can be bent to the point where it is weakened ? Obviously there comes a point where hook diameter is to small for a certain line diameter . We can agree on that .
There is an article about this in one of my fishing magazines probably InFisherman . Makes sense .
I've tied 80 flouro and hooks the same size typical to bass fishing and never had any issues. I think you would run into the fact it won't fit through the eye itself before you should have these kinking issues. It can definitely be bent and be weakened but using the correct knots normally prevents this.
On 7/8/2015 at 3:08 AM, Shanes7614 said:I've tied 80 flouro and hooks the same size typical to bass fishing and never had any issues. I think you would run into the fact it won't fit through the eye itself before you should have these kinking issues. It can definitely be bent and be weakened but using the correct knots normally prevents this.
Thisnexplains it better .http://knotcyphers.pbworks.com/w/page/8216878/Knot%20Strength%20-%20or%20Weakness