Straight Braided Line??? 2024

SlapShot268 reply :

BASSHUNTER1961 reply :

I use a leader on all my braid except when throwing frogs. I feel using a leader with baits such as worms give the baot a more realistic presentation. One of the biggest reasons I use a leader is to be able break free if hooking a stump or any other object. I have tied direct to hooks before, and have caught fish, so it really works with or without a leader....... Go fish and have fun..

Busy reply :

I don't usually use a leader. Most of the time I am fishing stained water. I personally prefer 20# braid which is pretty thin, thinner than an 8# leader I think. I might use a leader if I used 50# braid, but I don't feel the need.

islandbass reply :

My experience through personal observation is that they can see the line and very easily braid or not. Depending on their mood or activity level, seeing the line was sometimes not even close to being a deterrent to attacking my lure and I'm talking face to face and close enough that I could have touched them with my rod tip.

The water was also clear to the bottom and about six ft deep.

Point is that them seeing the line can be a factor but not always.

Bair reply :

For me, I will run straight braid if its a reaction bait, otherwise I put a leader on it.

S Hovanec reply :

I did a little experiment during my vacation in June while fishing on Erie. 2 set-ups, almost identical (both custom St. Croix spinning rods). A 5S69MLXF with 10/2 PowerPro and a 18' fluoro leader and a 4C69MLXF with straight 10/2 PowerPro. The PowerPro only rod didn't get a bite but the leadered PowerPro saw much action.

Capt.Bob reply :

I ran -charters on Erie for years, I caught better fish and bigger fish using a leader. I ran 8'-10' leaders though, you don't really need the 18', being a smart @ss as I'm sure you meant 18", which I never ran them that short, usually when I got to 3 or 4' I would tie a new one on. I wont fish without one today, I get the best of both worlds, with very little extra effort!

MrSwimJig reply :

I do not use a leader, but if I am fishing clearer water I will just switch to a different type of line.

SirSnookalot reply :

There is no right or wrong. I'm a braid and leader man for just about everything in all water conditions. I use swivels and do not tie line to leader, my leaders are bout 20", about 30" for saltwater. I prefer a leader for 2 main reasons, in the event I tangle with the trebles a leader is much easier to unravel than braid. Secondly there is just a little bit of shock value with a leader, I like my hooksets that way.

Dwight Hottle reply :

On 8/5/2012 at 8:01 AM, S Hovanec said:

I did a little experiment during my vacation in June while fishing on Erie. 2 set-ups, almost identical (both custom St. Croix spinning rods). A 5S69MLXF with 10/2 PowerPro and a 18' fluoro leader and a 4C69MLXF with straight 10/2 PowerPro. The PowerPro only rod didn't get a bite but the leadered PowerPro saw much action.

My one buddy and I tried the same experiment while fishing a farm pond in Georgia both using wacky rigged senkos from shore. Some were caught on the straight braid but the mono leader out fished the straight braid about 3 to 1.

South FLA reply :

Slow presentations use flouro leader, moving baits us braid

S Hovanec reply :

On 8/5/2012 at 12:11 PM, Capt.Bob said:
I'm sure you meant 18"

No, I meant 18'. I tie them that long on my dropshot rods and tube rods and I'm able to fish all day without the need to re-tie a leader, even after several re-ties and break-offs.

LgMouthGambler reply :

Down here in the swamps, I dont see a difference. I would rather have the confidence of straight braid than have to worry about fluoro or mono breaking in heavy cover.

SoFlaBassAddict reply :

On 8/6/2012 at 5:48 AM, SlapShot268 said:

Straight braid even with finesse?

Finesse is a state of mind, not a limit on equipment. You can finesse a one ounce jig, or power fish an eighth ounce shakey head.

After experimenting with tons of fluoros, hybrids, etc etc, I've gone back to braid for 99% of my fishing. I'll add a leader when I feel it's necessary.

LgMouthGambler reply :

On 8/6/2012 at 5:48 AM, SlapShot268 said:

Straight braid even with finesse?

Umm....I dont know what finesse fishing is. I dont really do that kind of thing down here. I go straight for the juggular! Seriously though, as long as the line is thin enough you shouldnt have a problem. Use like a 20-30# braid and you should be fine, but I would rather fish a 6-8# line like YoZuri if your gonna do that kind of thing since that line is very strong for its size.

B@ssCrzy reply :

I like to use a leader. Not only because of the visibility, but because I use 50# PP and so with a leader I can break off easily if I get snagged and not lose any of my braid.

Capt.Bob reply :

On 8/6/2012 at 9:09 AM, B@ssCrzy said:

I like to use a leader. Not only because of the visibility, but because I use 50# PP and so with a leader I can break off easily if I get snagged and not lose any of my braid.

hatrix reply :

I think it might depend on presentation. If you fishing a fast moving bait compared to like a jig or worm I am not sure they get to much a chance to even see it. As of this year I have been using leader a lot just because why not give my self the best possible chances. Like others have said I also use them so I can break off and not have to actually cut the line. Although with a pair of gloves 65# braid and some muscle you can bend out the hooks on about any thing and get your lure back but not always. With a leader your gonna break off for sure so it can go either way for me.

fishking247 reply :

a lot of the lakes i fish become heavily weeded up in the summer. I am forced to use braid due to its ability to slice through weeds and other vegetations. mot of the time with topwater and frogs i never use a leader. when i throw my light texas rigs, spinnerbaits, crankbaits, senkos etc i use a leader. i think it is a confidence thing. before seriously starting to bass fish i was heavy into saltwater fishing, particulary surf fishing for striped bass. it is unheard of in saltwater to tie directly to braid, and when you do you use a leader it is generally heavier then the braid. (20lb braid to a 30-60lb flouro or mono leader depending on structure).

I think it all just comes down to confidence. i know someone who uses straight 30lb spiderwire for EVERYTHING and he has no problem catching fish. i generally run 15-20lb power pro with a 6-12lb mono leader. or straight 8lb mono. i use 30lb for frog fishing and i use NO leader.

plus do you really think a fish cares about line when they can see hooks, swivels, snaps etc on the end of your line and lures?

hope this helps

SirSnookalot reply :

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it is unheard of in saltwater to tie directly to braid, and when you do you use a leader it is generally heavier then the braid. (20lb braid to a 30-60lb flouro or mono leader depending on structure).

Never seen it done any other way.

Bass Slayer 72 reply :

I've only run straight braided for a few years now, hasn't seem to hurt our fishing seasons at all, If I'm missing out on bigger fish.....Sssshhh don't tell them that...lol

ClackerBuzz reply :

On 8/6/2012 at 6:05 AM, SoFlaBassAddict said:

Finesse is a state of mind, not a limit on equipment. You can finesse a one ounce jig, or power fish an eighth ounce shakey head.

Thanks for the food for thought next time I'm on the water (2moro!)

rockchalk06 reply :

In my short time using braid, I haven't noticed a difference when using a leader or not. Common sense tells me that I should so I do.

Capt.Bob reply :

On 8/11/2012 at 1:10 PM, rockchalk06 said:

In my short time using braid, I haven't noticed a difference when using a leader or not. Common sense tells me that I should so I do.

I couldn't say it better!

bigdawg74 reply :

so with 30 or 30 power pro what size leader should i use?

rockchalk06 reply :

On 8/11/2012 at 8:46 PM, bigdawg74 said:

so with 30 or 30 power pro what size leader should i use?

Not sure what size 30 pound braid equals to in mono, but I match it up with the same diameter as mono. . I use 50# braid and #15 pound fluoro leader which is about 12# mono.

I have no basis for this but I figure you can't go wrong with using everything in the same diameter.

smr913 reply :

On 8/11/2012 at 9:42 PM, SlapShot268 said:

30#PP is = 12 momo

50#PP is 12 mono

BASSHUNTER1961 reply :

30# PP = 8# Mono..... I use a 15# Mono leader.

fishking247 reply :

On 8/12/2012 at 8:50 PM, SlapShot268 said:

I started this thread and used braid for a while. Then I went back to Mono and my catch rate went up by 5 times. Givin that I grew up fishing mono I think I will keep fishing mono. I do not want to bother having to tie a leader and I see that as a weak point in the line. Straight mono for me.

if i could fish mono for everything i would. i just started using braid this year and have mixed opinions on it. the weeds get real thick in a lot of places i fish and i am forced to use braid which slices through the weeds for everything

S Hovanec reply :

On 8/12/2012 at 8:50 PM, SlapShot268 said:
I do not want to bother having to tie a leader and I see that as a weak point in the line.

I've only been using braid/leaders for 2 years, but I have NEVER broke a line at the connection knot. and I'm not fishing heavy line either.....10/2 braid to 6# and 8# leaders. I wouldn't worry about the connection knot being the weak point.

Capt.Bob reply :

On 8/12/2012 at 9:10 PM, S Hovanec said:

I've only been using braid/leaders for 2 years, but I have NEVER broke a line at the connection knot. and I'm not fishing heavy line either.....10/2 braid to 6# and 8# leaders. I wouldn't worry about the connection knot being the weak point.

Same here, if the knot joining the leader is a problem for some it isn't the knot's fault! I know way too many fisherman that use a leader with braid, most never loose there braid, this just means the leader is working, it also means if you are loosing your knot at the braid, your using the wrong knot or need more practice tying it. The benefits of braid, better casting, absolute best sensitivity, no stretch, ability to use lighter lures, with thinner limper line you have better lure control, unaffected by weather temp, UV, hot, cold, zero memory, I really can't see how these aspects of fishing aren't worth it. I have a reason most don't, I'm cheap! I like to use the cheapest thing that works! In the last 15 or so years I have proven that it has been a lot cheaper to use braid than anything else, it usually last me about 4 years before I have to respool. But I always hassle with running a leader!

SirSnookalot reply :

I believe braid is the best way to go, at least it has been for me. Whether you are using a knot to join braid and leader or using a swivel the knot is not any weaker than the one you have used for your lure or hook. Not uncommon to hook a fish 30-40# or more here, I use 15 and 20# braid, knot or braided line failure is a rare occurrence, and once tied I already ever check it.

bigdawg74 reply :

since most of the year i fish in a smaller lake and the fish are not the biggest i think i will get 20 power pro and use the 8 vanish floro that i already have. what is the best knot to use to tie on a leader

S Hovanec reply :

On 8/14/2012 at 4:08 AM, bigdawg74 said:

i think i will get 20 power pro and use the 8 vanish floro that i already have. what is the best knot to use to tie on a leader

IMO, no knot known to man will make a good connection with Vanish.

Disclaimer: This is MY opinion about vanish from 3 previous experiences. Guess I didn't learn the first 2 times!

Capt.Bob reply :

Vanish would not be a line I would recamend, and all I use is Berkely Line. Buy a small spool of Seaguar !nvisex, I believe it comes in 50 yard spools, that should last all this year, for knot's learn the blood knot, the double Uni-knot will work, but the blood knot is tapered at both ends and it flows through the guides much smoother. It is all I use.

bigdawg74 reply :

if i cant get Seaguar at my local store what else would you recomend. if i am going to buy new floro then i thing i will go power pro 30 with a 10 or 12 leader. also how long should a leader be? thanks everyone for all the advice .

Capt.Bob reply :

I would go with no less than 4 feet, but I like 8-12' that way I don't have to retie with a new leader for the whole day, USUALLY. But there are times in certain waters that break offs can be frequent enough that rule doesn't apply. But the longer you make it. the longer it will last. As far as other brands, I am not sure but the Seaguar is about the best you will find for the price, I went to ebay and bought 4,8,12,25, that way I have everything covered with any outfit I have. If i need more than that it's for toothy predators, and in that case I manufacture hand made custom Ball bearing Fluorocarbon leaders with Berkley Cross locks snaps and usually run 20" on 100# viscous Pro Elitea and 65# Braid, on brood waters, 130# test with heavier swivels and locks, as 30+ pound Muskie in weed infested water need to be subdued quickly, and even then can be a chore to winch in when they have a ton of vegetables served up with them!

fishking247 reply :

i use braid for more strength and it's ability to slice through vegetation. using a leader virtually defeats the purpose of me using braid. i used to use a leader but it seemed to just be more of a confidence thing for me. if you feel the need you must use a leader seaguar leader matrial is definitely the way to go.

FYI, i out fished someone i know last night 3:1 using straight braid.

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