Still hating fluorocarbon! 2024
livemusic reply :
I can't recall what all I have tried, but a couple of higher end brands. I have yet to find any admirable trait! I also have KVD line conditioner that I have used on it. FC coils up way too much! I love fishing braid. What the heck. Far as I know, my FC was spooled correctly, it was done at BPS.
I thought I would give it one more go and this time I bought Sunline Shooter 25 lb and dang it, I can't recall why I bought it! I mean, it was for a certain lure presentation. What would this be good for? As for what has been on my mind of late... soft plastics, chatterbaits, crankbaits, spinnerbaits. Some pro was recommending this line for something... probably pretty dumb for me to fall for that, but I did, lol.
Braid casts so wonderfully limp. But I know some people prefer FC and I just don't get it!
EDIT: Latest I tried is Seaguar Red Label 20 lb. Daiwa T3 1016SHL TW baitcast reel on 7' MH graphite rod.
IAY reply :
You are using the wrong tool for your application. 25 lb shooter is really really thick stuff, and it is pretty hard to manage, but super stiff, sensitive, and ultra abrasion resistant. I would only use that to flip really heavy cover.
roadwarrior reply :
Some people like it, but you don't "need" it to be successful. Try using fluorocarbon as a leader and see if that makes any difference.
thebillsman reply :
25lb shooter! You're fishing with copper wire man. You need to pick a lighter duty line.
JaxBasser reply :
25lb is really heavy. That's why you are having problems. 12lb is much much more manageable.
Hogsticker reply :
rippin-lips reply :
Then don't use it!
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 10:00 PM, rippin-lips said:Then don't use it!
Exactly. I didn't feel the pros outweighed the cons, so I went back to copolymer for what I was using fluoro for. Saves me a bunch of money and I don't have the headaches of dealing with fluoro. Just because "everyone else is doing it", doesn't mean you have to do it too.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 10:11 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Exactly. I didn't feel the pros outweighed the cons, so I went back to copolymer for what I was using fluoro for. Saves me a bunch of money and I don't have the headaches of dealing with fluoro. Just because "everyone else is doing it", doesn't mean you have to do it too.
I'm thinking about switching over to all co-poly too. Have you used it on spinning gear yet?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 10:55 PM, Fishin' Fool said:I'm thinking about switching over to all co-poly too. Have you used it on spinning gear yet?
I use braid on almost all my spinning rods with a leader of copoly except for one that I use 8lb Pline C21 on and it works great.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 8:57 PM, livemusic said:I can't recall what all I have tried, but a couple of higher end brands. I have yet to find any admirable trait! I also have KVD line conditioner that I have used on it. FC coils up way too much! I love fishing braid. What the heck. Far as I know, my FC was spooled correctly, it was done at BPS.
I thought I would give it one more go and this time I bought Sunline Shooter 25 lb and dang it, I can't recall why I bought it! I mean, it was for a certain lure presentation. What would this be good for? As for what has been on my mind of late... soft plastics, chatterbaits, crankbaits, spinnerbaits. Some pro was recommending this line for something... probably pretty dumb for me to fall for that, but I did, lol.
Braid casts so wonderfully limp. But I know some people prefer FC and I just don't get it!
I'm thinking 12 pound would be what you want for the techniques you described. I use 6 pound test on spinning gear. And have had no issue catching 5 pound smallies. My issue is fluoro is expensive and needs to be changed out every few outings. But I'm one of those fools using straight fluorocarbon no braid.
livemusic reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 10:00 PM, rippin-lips said:Then don't use it!
That's not a very good answer when it is obvious that I can simply not use it. I mean, what is a forum for other than gaining insight? I am serious about wanting more info. The fishing is world is full of people who love FC and I can't imagine loving it. Yet.
FWIW, the FC I have used is not 25 lb, it was much less than that. I don't have the boxes anymore but I think it was 12-15 lb. (EDIT: I found the most recent box... it is Seaguar Red Label 20 lb... this is the latest FC I have tried and it coils bad! The first one I tried was something in the 12-15 lb range.)
The Shooter I bought *is* 25 lb test. I think I bought it for soft plastics. We have a lot of underwater cover here. Whoever was bragging about it touted it as a wonderful line. I think it might have been Tommy Biffle.
CaliBassRipper reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 11:08 PM, livemusic said:That's not a very good answer when it is obvious that I can simply not use it. I mean, what is a forum for other than gaining insight? I am serious about wanting more info. The fishing is world is full of people who love FC and I can't imagine loving it. Yet.
FWIW, the FC I have used is not 25 lb, it was much less than that. I don't have the boxes anymore but I think it was 12-15 lb. (EDIT: I found the most recent box... it is Seaguar Red Label 20 lb... this is the latest FC I have tried and it coils bad! The first one I tried was something in the 12-15 lb range.)
The Shooter I bought *is* 25 lb test. I think I bought it for soft plastics. We have a lot of underwater cover here. Whoever was bragging about it touted it as a wonderful line. I think it might have been Tommy Biffle.
I know in my case i use 12 lb straight flouro at times even when finessing a jig in wood. I have pulled 4 to 5 lbers lmb over limbs and up on the bank with no problems. Just gotta be a lil careful of sharper points. As for the coiling what i do is after i spool my line i run the spool under semi hot water for a lil bit and it seems to help with new line. It kinda forms to the spool better. But this is just my opinion. I happen to love flouro. But use braid more since i can use it longer and it dont cost me as much.
HookdUP reply :
I only use flouro to flpitch jigs/plastics in wood and clear water... Like western branch here in va ... I now use #12 yozuri on all other baitcasters. I only like yozuri at this weight however .
buzzed bait reply :
one thing to note is that just because bass pro spooled it on, DOES NOT mean it was done right!!!
and to be clear now, are you spooling this onto a spinning reel or casting reel?
Hogsticker reply :
Sounds like the folks at your local bps need some education. Shooter is a great line. One of the best if you're looking for a stiff, low stretch, sensitive fluorocarbon. If whoever spooled 25 lb test on your spinning reel, they were lost from the beginning. To answer your question, fluoro can be great. Sniper makes a great all around line. Fluoro also shines where slack line sensitivity is paramount.
blckshirt98 reply :
Are you using 25lb fluoro on a spinning reel? For spinning gear 8lb is just about the top limit before it becomes too thick and springy for a spinning spool...25lb will jump off like opening up a jack in the box. The BPS person working the reel department should have said something about using heavy fluoro on a spinning reel. On a casting reel 25lb shouldn't give you that many problems...I use 20lb on my crankbait setup and while it does have memory I don't have problems with managing it.
rippin-lips reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 11:08 PM, livemusic said:That's not a very good answer when it is obvious that I can simply not use it. I mean, what is a forum for other than gaining insight? I am serious about wanting more info. The fishing is world is full of people who love FC and I can't imagine loving it. Yet.
FWIW, the FC I have used is not 25 lb, it was much less than that. I don't have the boxes anymore but I think it was 12-15 lb. (EDIT: I found the most recent box... it is Seaguar Red Label 20 lb... this is the latest FC I have tried and it coils bad! The first one I tried was something in the 12-15 lb range.)
The Shooter I bought *is* 25 lb test. I think I bought it for soft plastics. We have a lot of underwater cover here. Whoever was bragging about it touted it as a wonderful line. I think it might have been Tommy Biffle.
Red label in my opinion is no better than a copoly. I had nothing but trouble even in lower test.
Sunline sniper is the most cost effective for a quality line that I've found. I use #12-16 regularly and without l&l having no issues. You have not mentioned if this is on a spinning or casting reel. On spinning I'd never use over #8 but I prefer #15 braid with a leader of #6-10 on spinning and casting it's mostly #30 braid with a leader of #8-16 depending on the cover.
Raul reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 8:57 PM, livemusic said:I bought Sunline Shooter 25 lb and dang it,
Any particular reason why you chose a friggin´ wire ?
buzzed bait reply :
On 3/18/2016 at 1:20 AM, blckshirt98 said:Are you using 25lb fluoro on a spinning reel? For spinning gear 8lb is just about the top limit before it becomes too thick and springy for a spinning spool...25lb will jump off like opening up a jack in the box. The BPS person working the reel department should have said something about using heavy fluoro on a spinning reel. On a casting reel 25lb shouldn't give you that many problems...I use 20lb on my crankbait setup and while it does have memory I don't have problems with managing it.
exactly why i asked. even 8lb can be a little cumbersome for me on the spinning reel. if you're putting 12 or god forbid 25 on a spinning reel, then let's consider this case closed....
Attila reply :
Yikes...anything higher than 12lbs test and I use braid with a fluro leader (I don't flip heavy, clear water cover). I agree with all who say that if you're spooling up a spinning reel then really 25lbs is wayyyyy to heavy to be using. For the chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, and crankbaits you mentioned, I would go with nothing more than 12 or maybe 15lbs test depending on the size of bait that you're throwing.
Are you using a glass rod for those presentations too? If so, what rod strength and power?
Every answer you provide helps paint a better picture of what you'll be using it for, so don't be afraid to share. 
cottny27 reply :
15# InvizX on a baitcaster works flawless for me. That's as heavy as I go and prefer 12# if I can get away with it.
livemusic reply :
No, not a spinning reel, a baitcast reel, Daiwa T3 1014SHL TW, on a 7' MH graphite rod. It's a great reel, really smooth.
I will return this 25 lb and try something lighter. I don't recall why I bought that particular line and weight, it might have been fishing soft plastics in heavy cover. We certainly have a lot of wood in our lakes. But I would rather go lighter. I really like braid, I was just trying FC because it is popular with a lot of people and wanted to see what it's about.
wv1755 reply :
I also have tried several different kinds of flouro & continued to get the line twists. I'm sticking with Suffix Elite mono for everything. I wanted Flouro for my finesse fishing but I've found that dropping down to 6 lb clear Elite suits me just fine.
PAGreg reply :
Go for the best of both worlds and use braid with a fluoro leader. I pitch docks with 40# smackdown and 22# sniper leader. Works great.
buzzed bait reply :
it's not for everybody, nor for every presentation either. other than my jig rod, i only use it as a leader. i have straight 16# sniper on the jig rod and treat it with some KVD line conditioner and it performs pretty well!
ibobpeb reply :
Like everyone else has said, you may like the lighter lines. Try 12 or 14 pound FC Sniper.
Cgrinder reply :
Ha. Bass Pro Shops doing something correctly.
Mosster47 reply :
I bought into the hype of flouro as a main line and hated it. I do like it as a leader. Now I use straight braid, braid with a flouro leader, or straight CXX and it's so much more manageable.
Team9nine reply :
As was stated earlier, if it doesn't seem to work for you, then don't use it and instead use something you're more comfortable with. The freedom of choice is part of what is great about fishing. That said, I'll still take the seemingly unpopular position that the line (fluorocarbon) isn't the issue in most cases. It's the angler or the setup.
-T9
WPCfishing reply :
I can't stand any of the FC lines. I prefer PLine CX.
FrankN209 reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 9:13 PM, roadwarrior said:Some people like it, but you don't "need" it to be successful. Try using fluorocarbon as a leader and see if that makes any difference.
Exactly what I was thinking. I use braid with a FC leader..
tander reply :
14 or 16# Sunline Sniper. I can't tell much difference than using mono. Don't need no line conditioner.
desmobob reply :
I gave a couple of straight fluorocarbon lines a try and didn't care for them. But I still use fluorocarbon every fishing day as leaders for the braided lines on most of my bait casters and about half of my spinning reels. The reels that aren't spooled with braid are spooled with a co-poly (Yo-Zuri or P-Line)).
I'll try flourocarbon again at some point.
Tight lines,
Bob
kadas reply :
Fluorocarbon leader with braid is the way I have gone also--so much better than straight FC in my fishing!!
jignfule reply :
The only FC I can use without getting excommunicated is Tatsu
roadwarrior reply :
On 3/22/2016 at 12:01 AM, jignfule said:The only FC I can use without getting excommunicated is Tatsu
Yeah, and once you fish Tatsu you're spoiled for life!
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