New mojo bass. SNAPPED! 2024
MUSLENUTZ reply :
Caught three pigs today using a plopper and the 7.1MHF snapped liked a wishbone. Really blows my mind and messes with the confidence using it. What would cause this?
FrankN209 reply :
When did it snap? Fighting the fish? Lifting the fish out of the water? But it does suck when this happens....
Finnz922 reply :
Usually damaged blank. Caused by getting banged on something. It usually takes the right amount of pressure/strain on that spot. Happens occasionally if you read all the forums on rods ranging from sub $100 to $500 and up.
It's a Croix. You are probably covered under warranty.
MickD reply :
https://www.rodbuilding.org/library/rodusage.pdf
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 3:48 AM, FrankN209 said:When did it snap? Fighting the fish? Lifting the fish out of the water? But it does suck when this happens....
Third fish, I grabbed it by the line and rod and pulled it in and snap. Maybe I’ll drag it on shore next time. Guy at BPS said it happens and could of been damaged in freight but I don’t know. It’s rated for up to one ounce lure. The plopper was one ounce and straight 40lb braid. They gave me a new one.
On 9/9/2018 at 4:34 AM, Finnz922 said:Usually damaged blank. Caused by getting banged on something. It usually takes the right amount of pressure/strain on that spot. Happens occasionally if you read all the forums on rods ranging from sub $100 to $500 and up.
It's a Croix. You are probably covered under warranty.
Third fish, I grabbed it by the line and rod and pulled it in and snap. Maybe I’ll drag it on shore next time. Guy at BPS said it happens and could of been damaged in freight but I don’t know. It’s rated for up to one ounce lure. The plopper was one ounce and straight 40lb braid. They gave me a new one.
MickD reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 5:32 AM, MUSLENUTZ said:Third fish, I grabbed it by the line and rod and pulled it in and snap. Maybe I’ll drag it on shore next time. Guy at BPS said it happens and could of been damaged in freight but I don’t know. It’s rated for up to one ounce lure. The plopper was one ounce and straight 40lb braid. They gave me a new one.
Third fish, I grabbed it by the line and rod and pulled it in and snap. Maybe I’ll drag it on shore next time. Guy at BPS said it happens and could of been damaged in freight but I don’t know. It’s rated for up to one ounce lure. The plopper was one ounce and straight 40lb braid. They gave me a new one.
Sounds like possible high sticking. Be sure to read the article at the link in the post above. High mod graphite rods will not take a lot of the stuff we used to do to our glass rods; that is the price we pay for the improved sensitivity.
The Bassman reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 4:39 AM, MickD said:https://www.rodbuilding.org/library/rodusage.pdf
Thanks for the link. Broke my first rod in many years last week. Very good and well timed info for me.
kenmitch reply :
I'd suggest reading the article. The way you describe how it broke makes me vision it snapping right in front of your hand.
burrows reply :
It happens ????????♂️
Bluebasser86 reply :
So did you grab the rod a foot or two from the tip and try to lift/drag the fish like that? That's a big no-no and one of the easiest ways to break a rod if you did.
Gundog reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 4:39 AM, MickD said:https://www.rodbuilding.org/library/rodusage.pdf
Excellent article. Very informative and gives lots of examples. I didn't know I was doing a few of those things that are bad for rods.
LCG reply :
Invest in a $20 landing net and put the rod behind you by stretching your arm back. Then use your free hand to net the fish. Best $20 you'll ever spend.
CrankFate reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 8:43 PM, Bluebasser86 said:So did you grab the rod a foot or two from the tip and try to lift/drag the fish like that? That's a big no-no and one of the easiest ways to break a rod if you did.
Sorry to hear it, but that will break any thin, light stiff rod. That’s exactly how my son broke one of his rods last year.
Dens228 reply :
I broke my second Mojo Bass this morning. The first one was my fault when I gave a yank to free a lure from a rock.
Today's broke on a hookset. I love St. Croix but I'm not spending anymore on the Mojo. Those are the only two I've broke in my life.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 5:59 AM, MickD said:Sounds like possible high sticking. Be sure to read the article at the link in the post above. High mod graphite rods will not take a lot of the stuff we used to do to our glass rods; that is the price we pay for the improved sensitivity.
Is it because it’s graphite or because it’s a MHF? I can switch it to a medium. I had it well over my head standing up. I’m not hat experienced here so possibly I caused the break.
Stephen B reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 4:40 AM, Dens228 said:I broke my second Mojo Bass this morning. The first one was my fault when I gave a yank to free a lure from a rock.
Today's broke on a hookset. I love St. Croix but I'm not spending anymore on the Mojo. Those are the only two I've broke in my life.
Mojo bass rods and St Croix rods are very dependable and have a very low number of breakages. If the rod wasn't damaged in shipment or bruised from a drop,etc then it was likely due to user error. Since multiple nice fish were caught on it the same day then randomly snapped I will guess high sticking.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 8:43 PM, Bluebasser86 said:So did you grab the rod a foot or two from the tip and try to lift/drag the fish like that? That's a big no-no and one of the easiest ways to break a rod if you did.
Yup. That’s what I did. What should I do? Keep it down and drag the fish in?
On 9/10/2018 at 9:54 AM, Stephen B said:Mojo bass rods and St Croix rods are very dependable and have a very low number of breakages. If the rod wasn't damaged in shipment or bruised from a drop,etc then it was likely due to user error. Since multiple nice fish were caught on it the same day then randomly snapped I will guess high sticking.
I bought the mhf for power as I always get stuck in the grass and other vegatation. I felt like that was a good choice for that. I didn’t really buy it for sensitivity as much as power. I’m a little nervous now to break it again.
burrows reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 5:32 AM, MUSLENUTZ said:Third fish, I grabbed it by the line and rod and pulled it in and snap. Maybe I’ll drag it on shore next time.
Yeah I try to tire them out drag them on shore. When I bank fish I don’t bank flip them specially not with my mojos they will snap. I have a couple of mojos I never snapped one but I can see it happening if I bank flip em. They are good rods but they are not really as strong as some ppl might claim. IMO. I have other rods that are mhf that I can bank flip, boat flip a five pounder if I wanted to but not with my mojos it can be done but I try not to.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/9/2018 at 4:39 AM, MickD said:https://www.rodbuilding.org/library/rodusage.pdf
I high sticked for sure. Thank you
MUSLENUTZ reply :
I was also using 40lb braid. THe rod is rated up to 20lb line but it doesn’t state what type of line.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 9:55 AM, MUSLENUTZ said:Yup. That’s what I did. What should I do? Keep it down and drag the fish in?
That will break any rod, damaged or not. They're just not meant to bend like that, but it's a common mistake so don't beat yourself up about it.
You can grab the line and lift or drag the fish. Use the fish's momentum while fighting them to lift and swing at the same time to bring them onto shore using the whole rod (given that the fish is of the right size to execute this move). Lipping the fish, grabbing it behind the head, grabbing with grippers, or belly landing if you can reach the fish.
40lb braid is just fine on a MH rod. Those are just line recommendations, not limitations.
burrows reply :
This is a cool video about rod breaking.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 5:31 PM, Burrows said:This is a cool video about rod breaking.
I watched that, I deff high sticked.
On 9/10/2018 at 4:06 PM, Bluebasser86 said:That will break any rod, damaged or not. They're just not meant to bend like that, but it's a common mistake so don't beat yourself up about it.
You can grab the line and lift or drag the fish. Use the fish's momentum while fighting them to lift and swing at the same time to bring them onto shore using the whole rod (given that the fish is of the right size to execute this move). Lipping the fish, grabbing it behind the head, grabbing with grippers, or belly landing if you can reach the fish.
40lb braid is just fine on a MH rod. Those are just line recommendations, not limitations.
Thank you for your help. i think what i learned here is keep 6 to 7 feet of line out and pull in the fish by line. Keep my rod no more than 45 degrees and pull straight back. If Im going to swing the fish its going to be one smaller than the size in my photos. Although the rodbuilder link suggests to hold it in your back hand, I will probally avoid that for a while. I wont be carrying a net s o Ijust need to be less excited and more controlled. Those fish were my pb, so adrenaline was going!
kenmitch reply :
Live and learn I guess. Try fishing from a kayak and you'll quickly learn the fish has the upper hand until you've either lipped or netted them.
BPS has some folding landing nets on sale currently. I have the 35" one behind the seat of my kayak for the times of need. It can be flipped open one handed as long as you don't have it tangled on some other gear. I'm not really sure why they get bad reviews? Maybe somebody needs to make a video on how to properly use a landing net? Best bang for buck net I came across when searching for one.
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-gold-series-folding-landing-net
There currently priced within a couple of bucks of the lowest price I've ever seen them.
TotalNoob reply :
Definitely great info in this thread, lots of good stuff.
This might put your mind completely at ease though OP, in regards to this particular rod. I purchased a 6'10" MH/F Bass Mojo from BPS on June 3rd. Two days later it snapped on it's very first cast. I took it back to BPS and just took the $130 refund. Didn't want to get it replaced because I did a bit of research and right there on BPS' own website in the Reviews was all I needed to know that I wasn't the only one it happened to, and neither are you.
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/St-Croix-Mojo-Bass-Casting-Rod
Click over to the "Reviews" tab and take solace that this exact problem has happened to lots of folks with this particular rod. You state that BPS gave you a new one, you can decide for yourself after reading those reviews whether you feel comfortable keeping the replacement or not.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 11:50 PM, TotalNoob said:Definitely great info in this thread, lots of good stuff.
This might put your mind completely at ease though OP, in regards to this particular rod. I purchased a 6'10" MH/F Bass Mojo from BPS on June 3rd. Two days later it snapped on it's very first cast. I took it back to BPS and just took the $130 refund. Didn't want to get it replaced because I did a bit of research and right there on BPS' own website in the Reviews was all I needed to know that I wasn't the only one it happened to, and neither are you.
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/St-Croix-Mojo-Bass-Casting-Rod
Click over to the "Reviews" tab and take solace that this exact problem has happened to lots of folks with this particular rod. You state that BPS gave you a new one, you can decide for yourself after reading those reviews whether you feel comfortable keeping the replacement or not.
What did you end up getting?
Spankey reply :
I've been there and broke two St. Croix spinning rods over the years. Avid and a Premier. Most likely my fault and the high sticking once. St. Croix will take care of you. The other time it was plain stupidity and not thinking about what I was doing by choking up on the rod while quickly horsing a fish over the side of the boat. They will take care of you. They put out a good product. I have my share of St. Croix rods. Can't go wrong.
TBAG reply :
Sucks but luckily you had one of the best in the industry in St. Croix IMO. They take care of their customers, that's a fact.
LonnieP reply :
I have that exact same rod. Caught a 5lb and 7 lber on it last fall. Never had a problem.
TotalNoob reply :
On 9/11/2018 at 12:08 AM, MUSLENUTZ said:What did you end up getting?
Nothing that day. I've purchased a couple rods since then (an abu, an okuma) for specific presentations, but mostly because I hunted down sales (no loyalty to a specific brand, just our pocketbook and quality products).
I understand St Croix is a terrific brand and the issue with that particular rod is not a reflection of their quality. I've only been at the fishing thing with a level of seriousness for a couple years (so take this with a grain of salt) but I have two of the BPS pro qualifier 2 rods (one spinning, one casting) that I got on sale and I don't have a single bad thing to say about either of them. Lots of good memories so far with both.
MickD reply :
I could be wrong, but I think the faster the action, the easier it is to high stick a rod. It's about geometry of our handling the rod and possibly the construction of the rods in which the taper between the very stiff butt section and the much lighter power tip is so short.
And as has been mentioned many times before , the new hi mod graphites won't take what we got used to with the old glass rods. And in fact, the more you pay for a rod to get max sensitivity, the more fragile it is likely to be.
Regarding the video, I don't agree that high sticking does any damage to the blank until it actually breaks. These blanks are very brittle. They have absolutely no plastic deformation. They are either in one piece or broken.
BUT, with respect to the damaging of a rod without breaking it through its colliding with another rod or the lure nicking the rod, I believe that is absolutely true. That will damage a rod such that the rod will break later.
Of course the bottom line is to avoid banging them around or hitting them with a lure, etc, and don't high stick, and the rod can last forever.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/11/2018 at 5:04 AM, MickD said:I could be wrong, but I think the faster the action, the easier it is to high stick a rod. It's about geometry of our handling the rod and possibly the construction of the rods in which the taper between the very stiff butt section and the much lighter power tip is so short.
And as has been mentioned many times before , the new hi mod graphites won't take what we got used to with the old glass rods. And in fact, the more you pay for a rod to get max sensitivity, the more fragile it is likely to be.
Regarding the video, I don't agree that high sticking does any damage to the blank until it actually breaks. These blanks are very brittle. They have absolutely no plastic deformation. They are either in one piece or broken.
BUT, with respect to the damaging of a rod without breaking it through its colliding with another rod or the lure nicking the rod, I believe that is absolutely true. That will damage a rod such that the rod will break later.
Of course the bottom line is to avoid banging them around or hitting them with a lure, etc, and don't high stick, and the rod can last forever.
My first rod is a medium 6.6 ugly stick. You can tie that thing in a knot. I needed a rod for more power from the bank to get me out of the vegatation snags and continuous line breaks from heavy lures. So I ended up with a 7.1 MHF rod to help me power through that. I still like it I possibly need to adjust my fishing. I’m pretty new at it and those fish in my pics were fighters and strong. Should I switch it for a medium powered? Would it take more vend? I was using 40lb braid and a curado dc. Just nervous using this new one now.
Alonerankin2 reply :
I would recommend the American made Avid series..
It's more money but it is superior in everyway.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/12/2018 at 11:05 PM, Alonerankin2 said:I would recommend the American made Avid series..
It's more money but it is superior in everyway.
I had originally planned for that one, but a high stick is a high stick no?
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 9/12/2018 at 11:31 PM, MUSLENUTZ said:I had originally planned for that one, but a high stick is a high stick no?
Yep. Except Avids take it better. Heck I've high stuck my Rage flippin stick a bunch and it's survived.. another thing, I do not use braid. I use Yo or Pline.
Then again, perhaps I'm just lucky.
MUSLENUTZ reply :
On 9/13/2018 at 12:33 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Yep. Except Avids take it better. Heck I've high stuck my Rage flippin stick a bunch and it's survived.. another thing, I do not use braid. I use Yo or Pline.
Then again, perhaps I'm just lucky.
Does braid affect rod breakage?
GReb reply :
On 9/13/2018 at 1:38 AM, MUSLENUTZ said:Does braid affect rod breakage?
If you tested rod breakage in a lab with mono, flourish, and braid I think the results would show braid would break the rod soonest due to not having any stretch or forgiveness. But in a real world application I don’t know if the variance is enough to make any real difference.
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