Braid On Shimanos 50/51 E Series Reels 2025
Alonerankin2 reply :
Ok so I am old school on lines.... But it's time for me to spool up braid on my 50 or my 51 however iam still not convinced I can use this reel as my heavy flipping reel... But she's going to get the chance. What do you believe is a realistic strength for this reel as a heavy cover reel? What about general duty strength eg. Bottom contact t-rigs, jigs I can't deny it's exceptional feel and me having a few pinched nerves in right arm and back... I could see it helping me recover some lost feel. Also drag settings, don't even want to break a rod over braid so what pound should I set it to slip ? Or full lock down? So anybody ? Shoot me your opinion . As always thank you for your knowledge !
Drewski73 reply :
Ive got 50lb braid on two curado 50e's. They function wonderfully for pitchin/flippin.
Id set your drags to match rod ratings if youre worried about your rods. Not that I think you need to worry.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 5:47 AM, Drewski73 said:Ive got 50lb braid on two curado 50e's. They function wonderfully for pitchin/flippin.
Id set your drags to match rod ratings if youre worried about your rods. Not that I think you need to worry.
Iam at Bass pro right now any particular brand TY!
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Sufix 832 30lb or 40lb is great. I would go with 30lb since it is more castable and you will be able to fit more line on.
Drewski73 reply :
For heavy flippin I use 50 or 65 lb. Power pro is good, as is suffix.
OkeechobeeAngler reply :
Power Pro without a doubt.
tomustang reply :
50lb power pro = 12lb diameter, should be strong enough for anything you use it for
curtis9 reply :
I use 40lb suffix 832 on a core 50 for pitchin. I think the smaller reel is perfect for this application.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Geez.. Braid ain't cheap! I left BPS without any. 300yd close to 40$ for 65pp super s guess I will look around on line see if I can bet that price. Then again I may have to just bite the bullet.
OkeechobeeAngler reply :
I just got 300yds of regular power pro for 30.00 from BPS.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 10:26 AM, OkeechobeeAngler said:I just got 300yds of regular power pro for 30.00 from BPS.
Yea that's a little better... I think I will go with regular power pro and see how well I like it before buying the super slick . Appreciate it!
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 10:20 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Geez.. Braid ain't cheap! I left BPS without any. 300yd close to 40$ for 65pp super s guess I will look around on line see if I can bet that price. Then again I may have to just bite the bullet.
The stuff lasts years and years though Im still using 10year old braid.
You have a dick's sportinggoods around you?
Couple days ago they have 25% off clearance I got 300yd spool of Sufix 832 for $23.60
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 11:02 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:The stuff lasts years and years though Im still using 10year old braid.
You have a dick's sportinggoods around you?
Couple days ago they have 25% off clearance I got 300yd spool of Sufix 832 for $23.60
Yea...right next to BPS..lol ! Dang that's a awesome price I will check them tomarrow hey thanks for the tip! That's a great deal!
Alonerankin2 reply :
I did pick up a 600 yd spool of suffix siege for 1.98 at BPS 8 pd clear. Not my fave but at that price I will use it... I think?
ncbassfisher1496 reply :
Check Academy Sports if you have one near you because I got 4 150 yd spools of camo Sufix 832 for $4 each.
John G reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 10:20 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Geez.. Braid ain't cheap! I left BPS without any. 300yd close to 40$ for 65pp super s guess I will look around on line see if I can bet that price. Then again I may have to just bite the bullet.
You don't need to fill your spool up with braid. Fill it half full with equivalent size mono and the rest with braid.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Yes I have thought about that... So which method should I use? And why?
John G reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 8:24 PM, Alonerankin2 said:Yes I have thought about that... So which method should I use? And why?
Mono backing so that you don't use more of your costly braid than you need to. A popular method to know how much braid to put on is to fill your spool with the same diameter mono (not # test rating) as your braid, put the heaviest best casting lure on the end of your line that you think that you will cast, make the longest cast that you can make, and then pull an equal amount of mono off of your spool, and then fill with braid. Basically the amount of mono that you are pulling off of your reel is your longest cast X2.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 8:54 PM, John G said:Mono backing so that you don't use more of your costly braid than you need to. A popular method to know how much braid to put on is to fill your spool with the same diameter mono (not # test rating) as your braid, put the heaviest best casting lure on the end of your line that you think that you will cast, make the longest cast that you can make, and then pull an equal amount of mono off of your spool, and then fill with braid. Basically the amount of mono that you are pulling off of your reel is your longest cast X2.
Yes! Awesome tip.... Thank you! That makes super sense! Thank you
lmbfisherman reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 5:08 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Ok so I am old school on lines.... But it's time for me to spool up braid on my 50 or my 51 however iam still not convinced I can use this reel as my heavy flipping reel... But she's going to get the chance. What do you believe is a realistic strength for this reel as a heavy cover reel? What about general duty strength eg. Bottom contact t-rigs, jigs I can't deny it's exceptional feel and me having a few pinched nerves in right arm and back... I could see it helping me recover some lost feel. Also drag settings, don't even want to break a rod over braid so what pound should I set it to slip ? Or full lock down? So anybody ? Shoot me your opinion . As always thank you for your knowledge !
When I asked a local Tournament angler who also happens to work at my favorite local shop, what was a good reel to flip and pitch with? He pointed out to me the Curado 50E, I was like really? (I was just starting to get into bass fishing then) I thought it was for finesse only. He said that it is just a myth and the reels could handle heavy cover to finesse techniques easily. I took his advice and spooled up with 50lb braid. I never had an issue pulling any fish out of cover with it, I also think another advantage is the size of the reel. It seemed easier to pitch because of the size. I don't use my 50s though anymore for my flip/pitch reel. Not because I don't think it can handle it, but I like it more to handle my weightless/lighter baits.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 10:02 PM, lmbfisherman said:When I asked a local Tournament angler who also happens to work at my favorite local shop, what was a good reel to flip and pitch with? He pointed out to me the Curado 50E, I was like really? (I was just starting to get into bass fishing then) I thought it was for finesse only. He said that it is just a myth and the reels could handle heavy cover to finesse techniques easily. I took his advice and spooled up with 50lb braid. I never had an issue pulling any fish out of cover with it, I also think another advantage is the size of the reel. It seemed easier to pitch because of the size. I don't use my 50s though anymore for my flip/pitch reel. Not because I don't think it can handle it, but I like it more to handle my weightless/lighter baits.
Thanks for the information.. It's great to hear from folks who have used the 50/51 platform for heavy work... I intend to give them a whirl! Thanks!
tomustang reply :
Power pro at Walmart is $12.56, that's cheap and will last you forever
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 11:20 PM, tomustang said:Power pro at Walmart is $12.56, that's cheap and will last you forever
Yes that's a very fair price for a 100yd spool so I guess with a good mono backing that should be plenty I would think. Thanks for the tip
MarkH024 reply :
There is a big selection of Power Pro on overstockbait . I believe today $25.00 or more orders are free shipping. Might be able to save a buck or two there if you prefer to online shop.
tomustang reply :
No backing just fill'er up
ww2farmer reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 11:20 PM, tomustang said:Power pro at Walmart is $12.56, that's cheap and will last you forever
On 1/21/2014 at 11:31 PM, Alonerankin2 said:Yes that's a very fair price for a 100yd spool so I guess with a good mono backing that should be plenty I would think. Thanks for the tip
FWIW.......those are the 150yd spools of Power Pro at Wal-mart. At BPS that is aprox. the price of the 100 yd spools.......I buy from Wal-mart.
To the OP, I have several 51E's, I use braid on all of them. Since they are smaller reels, I only fill the spool up about a 1/4 of the way with mono backing, and then I can usually fill two 51E's with one 150 yd spool of Power Pro. I use or have used those reels for everything, flipping/pitchng, frogging, jig/worm work, cranking, etc....they take everything I throw at them. They are my favorite reels of all time, and I buy them up any time I find a deal on one.....about the only thing I don't use them for is deep cranking.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 11:43 PM, tomustang said:No backing just fill'er up
That really was my original plan based on a guy who I met at Bps who fished flw for a awhile he had a boating accident... Anyway that's what he said full braid.... When it's color goes or it's getting roughed up , pull in off and swap it end for end back to the spool. Seems like both ways will work... Idk!
21farms reply :
i'm with tomustang and am a full braid guy myself...i think it will actually save you money in the long run. here's why. let's say you spool on 75 yards of braid and the remainder is cheap backing. since braid will last for years and years, eventually due to breakoffs, wind knots, etc., your length of braid will get progressively shorter and will get to the point where your cast will be longer than the amount of remaining braid you have...probably about the 45 yard mark...at which point, i'd toss that entire 45 yard piece away and tie on another 75 yard piece of braid. but, with a full spool, you can always add backing as you lose line.
by the way, i use a chronarch 50E for pitchin' with 30 to 50 lbs. braid on the california delta where some big girls live...never had a problem and love it. i also have a scorpion 1001XT (JDM version of the curado/chronarch 51E) and put a shallow spool on it (filled with braid) and, man, talk about a pitchin' machine ;-)
ww2farmer reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 12:15 AM, 21farms said:i'm with tomustang and am a full braid guy myself...i think it will actually save you money in the long run. here's why. let's say you spool on 75 yards of braid and the remainder is cheap backing. since braid will last for years and years, eventually due to breakoffs, wind knots, etc., your length of braid will get progressively shorter and will get to the point where your cast will be longer than the amount of remaining braid you have...probably about the 45 yard mark...at which point, i'd toss that entire 45 yard piece away and tie on another 75 yard piece of braid. but, with a full spool, you can always add backing as you lose line.
by the way, i use a chronarch 50E for pitchin' with 30 to 50 lbs. braid on the california delta where some big girls live...never had a problem and love it. i also have a scorpion 1001XT (JDM version of the curado/chronarch 51E) and put a shallow spool on it (filled with braid) and, man, talk about a pitchin' machine ;-)
Yeah but............................when pitching and flipping with braid and backing, if your down to the backing and need to re-spool........often it's a pretty short length of braid that needs to be replaced. If your doing a lot of long casting that might be a different story.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 12:15 AM, 21farms said:i'm with tomustang and am a full braid guy myself...i think it will actually save you money in the long run. here's why. let's say you spool on 75 yards of braid and the remainder is cheap backing. since braid will last for years and years, eventually due to breakoffs, wind knots, etc., your length of braid will get progressively shorter and will get to the point where your cast will be longer than the amount of remaining braid you have...probably about the 45 yard mark...at which point, i'd toss that entire 45 yard piece away and tie on another 75 yard piece of braid. but, with a full spool, you can always add backing as you lose line.
by the way, i use a chronarch 50E for pitchin' with 30 to 50 lbs. braid on the california delta where some big girls live...never had a problem and love it. i also have a scorpion 1001XT (JDM version of the curado/chronarch 51E) and put a shallow spool on it (filled with braid) and, man, talk about a pitchin' machine ;-)
Sounds to me that 50 pd is all I will need for heavy work,that scorp. Man it is awesome! I almost ordered that from Japan tackle and chickened out ! Well thanks for the info, good luck on the delta.. I hear that drought is way bad
Alonerankin2 reply :
You all are making valid points here. Which is exactly why I decided to participate by joining rather than just browse like I have for a couple years. This site for largemouth has the smartest group of anglers I have seen anywhere on the net! Thanks to everyone!
21farms reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 12:36 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Sounds to me that 50 pd is all I will need for heavy work,that scorp. Man it is awesome! I almost ordered that from Japan tackle and chickened out ! Well thanks for the info, good luck on the delta.. I hear that drought is way bad
the only time i'd step up to braid heavier than 50# is for punching or tossing big lunker punkers and maybe, maybe for frogs.
japantackle is where i got my scorp...i love how the japanese sellers meticulously package their shipments. every reel i've bought from a U.S. seller was just thrown into a box with an air bag or some newspaper. every reel i've bought from japan comes individually wrapped in bubble wrap and secured inside a bigger box suspended from the edges.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 12:51 AM, 21farms said:the only time i'd step up to braid heavier than 50# is for punching or tossing big lunker punkers and maybe, maybe for frogs.
japantackle is where i got my scorp...i love how the japanese sellers meticulously package their shipments. every reel i've bought from a U.S. seller was just thrown into a box with an air bag or some newspaper. every reel i've bought from japan comes individually wrapped in bubble wrap and secured inside a bigger box suspended from the edges.
So sounds like you have not had any problems ordering from JT ? I would like to have a shallow spool too... But I gotta tell Ya I sent a few emails to Jun and never received a answer... I began to think that my carrier (service) was blocking it . That's been awhile though you know a aftermarket spool that will work on cu51e ch50e
21farms reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 1:17 AM, Alonerankin2 said:So sounds like you have not had any problems ordering from JT ? I would like to have a shallow spool too... But I gotta tell Ya I sent a few emails to Jun and never received a answer... I began to think that my carrier (service) was blocking it . That's been awhile though you know a aftermarket spool that will work on cu51e ch50e
japantackle is just jun and his wife. i've ordered from them several times and jun has been extremely helpful whenever i've emailed him. i think you may be right that your emails may be getting blocked either on your end or his. anyway, i got the yumeya 32mm BFS spool. here's what it looks like on the scorp:
i like the yumeya spools over the avails because yumeya is a division of shimano so i know they were made specifically to fit the reel instead of reverse-engineered to fit. also, the yumeya come standard with the brake assembly.
Alonerankin2 reply :
That is super nice! I really like that ! Thanks for the info and the pic
John G reply :
You will not have any problems dealing with Jun and Kayo Sonado at Japan Tackle. I just received my third reel from them. 21Farms is right on about the care that is taken with your reel when they ship it and the Japan EMS is a very fast shipping service.On 1/22/2014 at 1:17 AM, Alonerankin2 said:So sounds like you have not had any problems ordering from JT ?
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 6:12 AM, John G said:You will not have any problems dealing with Jun and Kayo Sonado at Japan Tackle. I just received my third reel from them. 21Farms is right on about the care that is taken with your reel when they ship it and the Japan EMS is a very fast shipping service.
Thanks it's reassuring to hear from folks that have ordered from Japan I have often contemplated a order and always backed out. The Jdm reels are so very nice..
thehooligan reply :
On 1/22/2014 at 6:26 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Thanks it's reassuring to hear from folks that have ordered from Japan I have often contemplated a order and always backed out. The Jdm reels are so very nice..
JT is great, got both of my aldebarans from them and they came quicker from japan then some of the reels I've ordered in the states, lol.
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