Should this have happened? 2024
FrankN209 reply :
I have a Powell Max3D 6'10" Medium Mod-Fast rod. And today when I was fishing, I hooked a nice 4lb bass. I was on the bank with a slight edge, about 2-3'. I lifted the bass up and my rod shattered in between the first and second eyelet closest to the reel. Should this have happened? I picked up the rod about 6" past the reel.
JigMaster4 reply :
I am no expert, but that does not look right.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
You can contact the maker with the pic and see what they say. Swinging fish and high sticking are often considered misuse. If you must lift with the Rod keep it parallel to the ground
new2BC4bass reply :
Personally I never try to lift a fish with the rod when fishing from shore. In a boat I will get the fish moving towards the boat and swing it up and out of the water with the momentum. Even in a boat I prefer to lift the fish by hand. I am not a professional angler with an unlimited supply of free rods at my disposal.
EDIT: As Mike says, check with Powell. Never know. Falcon sent me a $200 rod for $80 when it was totally my fault the rod broke, and I told them exactly what had happened. Fenwick offered a 45% discount off any of their rods when I missed an eye threading the line, and wore a groove in the finish after about 15 minutes of casting with mono. I had told them exactly what happened. Honesty is always the best policy....in my book.
FrankN209 reply :
I took it back to my local tackle shop and they replaced it. He told me it shouldn't have broke the way I picked up the fish. So I'm happy about that. I ended up going with an Okuma EVX.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/3/2016 at 2:24 AM, FrankN209 said:I took it back to my local tackle shop and they replaced it. He told me it shouldn't have broke the way I picked up the fish. So I'm happy about that. I ended up going with an Okuma EVX.
good choice , i think you'll be happier with the Okuma rod , i myself don't like powell rods 
MassYak85 reply :
I never lift fish over 2lbs, I know many guys do though. No sense risking it IMO. Depending on the angle of force when you were lifting it the rod might not be designed to handle it. Rods are designed to fight fish and I see a lot of guys in videos lift them with the rod almost vertical, which can snap tips off. However, where your rod broke seems very strange.
kadas reply :
On 10/3/2016 at 2:37 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:good choice , i think you'll be happier with the Okuma rod , i myself don't like powell rods
With you Big Bait on Powell rods--have several and think they are a good rod--just their QC is terrible--last 2 Powell rods I bought from Tackle Warehouse the eyes were not even close to be straight down the rod--the person must have been drunk to do a job like this or just did not care at all--Tackle Warehouse took them back ad replaced them--these two were also not straight--returned these again and the next two that came 1 was pretty good and the other was not totally straight but I decided to live with it with the thought that I am done with Powell rods--they have a great blank but their QC leaves a whole lot to be desired--got tired of returning rods--just gave up-will not buy any more Powells
Columbia Craw reply :
That much linear separation is odd. I've seen it when blanks were crushed or compressed. I'm not implying that's the case, it's just an observation. It will be interesting to see how the manufacture responds. I hope it works out for you.
MikeWright reply :
Just tell your buddies that you crushed your rod landing a 13 lber 
fishnkamp reply :
It is funny, one of my favorite rods that I own is a Powell Max 683 which is the most versatile rod I have ever owned and that is exactly what Tackle Tour said about the rod before I purchased it.
I own two of their fly rods from back in the nineties, and they had a great reputation for quality fly rods back then. It seems to me, all or the trouble I have seen has been in the Powel Max3Ds. Maybe they need to go back to the original Powell Max series. I have seen too many of their new ones split or break between the handle and the first guide. Too bad, I would love to get another 683 in the original Max series, but do not trust it in the 3D series.
smalljaw67 reply :
I don't know about Powell's warranty but there are 2 things to consider. The first is that it looks as if the graphite and resin didn't bond well and separated under stress. The second thing I wonder about is if this happens if you don't dead lift the fish? I have mentioned this in the past, I actually got to talk to a rod designer for St. Croix, I was informed that even with proper technique, boat flipping fish is considered user error as the rods are not made to handle that type of flex and stress. Once the tip bends past 90 degrees the rod can break, maybe it won't break on the first fish or maybe the next 30 but eventually it will break, all it takes is an extra inch of flex 1 time. When you watch a pro boat flip a fish, they normally get the fish moving and use the momentum to swing the fish in and then quickly take the pressure off the rod, and very few of them will boat flip a 4lber unless it won't help in a culling situation. The bad part is that even though it is done, it is considered wrong and abusing the rod, it is why I wish B.A.S.S would follow the FLW and allow the use of nets, the new rubberized nets are better for the fish and the angler not to mention the rod, deadlifting a 4lb bass even a small distance is asking for trouble, but because the graphite seems to have separated you may get a new one but it is at least partially your fault, get a net or lip the fish, especially if it is over a pound.
webertime reply :
I had a Kistler magnesium break that looked just like that. A trolling motor support bounced up and came down on it. Not saying that is what happened but I've seen breaks like that. Mine was close to the tip.
J Francho reply :
My Kistler Drop SHot Special rod broke like that, maybe around a foot from the top.
Further North reply :
On 10/3/2016 at 2:14 AM, new2BC4bass said:EDIT: As Mike says, check with Powell. Never know. Falcon sent me a $200 rod for $80 when it was totally my fault the rod broke, and I told them exactly what had happened. Fenwick offered a 45% discount off any of their rods when I missed an eye threading the line, and wore a groove in the finish after about 15 minutes of casting with mono. I had told them exactly what happened. Honesty is always the best policy....in my book.
I have similar experiences with St. Croix and Temple Forks.
Both know how to treat a customer.
.ghoti. reply :
I once had rod break look like that. I'd stepped on it prior to the break.
hunterPRO1 reply :
better to either a keep the rod parallel or drag the fish up the bank,
that definitely don't look right though, i could see a medium power rod breaking on a 4.5 or 5 lb bass if you aren't careful or maybe even if you are.
good luck with the new rod, i myself am looking for a new rod (under 60 bucks preferably) after me and a buddy made contact when he came back while i was swinging forward and the insert on my tip guide broke, eventually going to have some sort of groves worn in it and need replacing. thinking daiwa aird x mh.
soflabasser reply :
On 10/3/2016 at 12:44 AM, FrankN209 said:I have a Powell Max3D 6'10" Medium Mod-Fast rod. And today when I was fishing, I hooked a nice 4lb bass. I was on the bank with a slight edge, about 2-3'. I lifted the bass up and my rod shattered in between the first and second eyelet closest to the reel. Should this have happened? I picked up the rod about 6" past the reel.
Wow,I have never had a rod break like that,especially on a relatively small fish like a largemouth bass.Goes to show you that a expensive rod isn't necessary better than a rod under $60.
Jrob78 reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 6:26 AM, soflabasser said:Wow,I have never had a rod break like that,especially on a relatively small fish like a largemouth bass.Goes to show you that a expensive rod isn't necessary better than a rod under $60.
The durability of a rod goes down as the price goes up, not the other way around.
soflabasser reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 7:15 AM, Jrob78 said:The durability of a rod goes down as the price goes up, not the other way around.
My #1 fishing rod is over 20 years old,has caught me many bass over 8lbs,and cost me less than $60 when I bought it way back then.I also use this rod for inshore fishing and it handles large,powerful saltwater fish very well.The exact model of my rod is still available for less than $60.
Onvacation reply :
Another thing to remember is if the manufacturer of the rod requires you to register it, make sure,you do so. Helps to expedite any warranty work.
Jrob78 reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 8:01 AM, soflabasser said:
My #1 fishing rod is over 20 years old,has caught me many bass over 8lbs,and cost me less than $60 when I bought it way back then.I also use this rod for inshore fishing and it handles large,powerful saltwater fish very well.The exact model of my rod is still available for less than $60.
I don't doubt your experience but the idea of what is "better" is subjective. What I'm saying is when higher grades of graphite are used to make rods more sensitive and lighter, they become more easily broken. This type of rod is the most expensive on the market.
soflabasser reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 11:18 AM, Jrob78 said:I don't doubt your experience but the idea of what is "better" is subjective. What I'm saying is when higher grades of graphite are used to make rods more sensitive and lighter, they become more easily broken. This type of rod is the most expensive on the market.
I agree with you that a person's choice in fishing rod selection is subjective.I personally wouldn't waste a single penny on a rod that can't take a beating for several years,if not decades of hard fishing. I like fishing rods that can take a beating, that are strong, and that are sensitive enough for me to detect bites.
WIGuide reply :
Lifting with a rod anywhere other than the handle is a bad recipe. It changes the forces on the blank and is most likely at least partially at fault for this break. Also, just lifting a 4 pound bass is generally not a good idea either. Both of these reasons are most likely why your rod broke. Something also could have been done to weaken the blank there previously and maxing out your rod the way you did would account for why it broke this time.
smalljaw67 reply :
On 10/4/2016 at 12:13 PM, soflabasser said:I agree with you that a person's choice in fishing rod selection is subjective.I personally wouldn't waste a single penny on a rod that can't take a beating for several years,if not decades of hard fishing. I like fishing rods that can take a beating, that are strong, and that are sensitive enough for me to detect bites.
If a rod is so strong that it can take a "beating", you would not be a person who throws a rod that weighs 4oz and can detect if a fish farts near your bait. In all seriousness, I've had no problems landing fish with rods that are light weight and I've had my high end rods for years, and the rods I've purchased over the last 5 years are going strong. I've never broken a high end rod from fishing, only through abuse and I'll bet that rod you use now wouldn't work with light line, and you would probably gut hook every fish you would catch on a Senko because even my high end rods from 20 years ago can't come close to the sensitivity of my newer rods that were 1/3 the price. I'm not doubting your claims but the rods today are fine, they just don't like being stepped on or closed in a car door and if you believe you have a strong rod that can take abuse and is as sensititive as a modern rod, well I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
soflabasser reply :
I have caught sharks in excess of 100 pounds on this +20 year old rod and bigger bass than most people have caught on $$$ rods...Have flipped several +5 pound fish of various species and the fishing rod has yet to show signs that it will break.Have used this same rod with big saltwater plugs and caught fish that absolutely outclass largemouth bass in every aspect of fighting ability.As far as line ,I use anywhere from 8 pound test to 30 pound test line on this rod.A expensive rod that can't take a beating is worth nothing to me,but a rod that can meet my high expectations is worth purchasing.
J Francho reply :
What rod is it? Sounds like the answer to the age old question, "Is there a rod that will do anything?"
new2BC4bass reply :
On 10/6/2016 at 1:34 AM, J Francho said:What rod is it? Sounds like the answer to the age old question, "Is there a rod that will do anything?"
Sounds like an Ugly Stick to me. 
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/6/2016 at 1:01 AM, soflabasser said:I have caught sharks in excess of 100 pounds on this +20 year old rod and bigger bass than most people have caught on $$$ rods...Have flipped several +5 pound fish of various species and the fishing rod has yet to show signs that it will break.Have used this same rod with big saltwater plugs and caught fish that absolutely outclass largemouth bass in every aspect of fighting ability.As far as line ,I use anywhere from 8 pound test to 30 pound test line on this rod.A expensive rod that can't take a beating is worth nothing to me,but a rod that can meet my high expectations is worth purchasing.
what is the rod ???
J Francho reply :
WPCfishing reply :
I usually do something stupid to break a rod. Lews and Abu have been great about it. Tell Powel the truth. They should send you a new rod.
That's not enough weight or pressure to cause a well made blank to break like that.
soflabasser reply :
Is that the rod you used to land the bass in your avatar?
Those little barbie and spiderman rods have caught some big fish for people who know how to fish light tackle well. There's even a video on YouTube of someone using one of these tiny rods to catch a decent shark.
On 10/7/2016 at 3:38 AM, J Francho said:
Jeff H reply :
On 10/3/2016 at 2:24 AM, FrankN209 said:I took it back to my local tackle shop and they replaced it. He told me it shouldn't have broke the way I picked up the fish. So I'm happy about that. I ended up going with an Okuma EVX.
On 10/7/2016 at 5:05 AM, WPCfishing said:I usually do something stupid to break a rod. Lews and Abu have been great about it. Tell Powel the truth. They should send you a new rod.
That's not enough weight or pressure to cause a well made blank to break like that.
Situation rectified 4 days ago....
soflabasser reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 3:37 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:what is the rod ???
It's just a old,worn down Ugly rod that's proven itself to be reliable in landing 100's if not 1000's of fish for me in the past +2 decades. It has been stepped on several times,thrown on contrete floor,high sticked on BIG fish ,yet somehow hasn't broken yet.
WPCfishing reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 7:11 AM, Jeff H said:
Situation rectified 4 days ago....
Good shop owner..
Jeff H reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 8:57 AM, WPCfishing said:Good shop owner..
I agree! Wish there were more like him.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 6:59 AM, soflabasser said:Is that the rod you used to land the bass in your avatar?
Those little barbie and spiderman rods have caught some big fish for people who know how to fish light tackle well. There's even a video on YouTube of someone using one of these tiny rods to catch a decent shark.
i was in the Las Vegas BPS talking to some guy there and he told me about a woman who caught a 55 lb. striper on a pocket fisherman !!!
soflabasser reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 3:14 PM, Big Bait Fishing said:i was in the Las Vegas BPS talking to some guy there and he told me about a woman who caught a 55 lb. striper on a pocket fisherman !!!
That's a impressive catch on a small fishing rod.Was she purposely fishing for striped bass?
J Francho reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 6:59 AM, soflabasser said:Is that the rod you used to land the bass in your avatar?
Those little barbie and spiderman rods have caught some big fish for people who know how to fish light tackle well. There's even a video on YouTube of someone using one of these tiny rods to catch a decent shark.
I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 10:46 PM, soflabasser said:That's a impressive catch on a small fishing rod.Was she purposely fishing for striped bass?
i don't know , i was by a pocket fisherman display , and i said out loud '' what could you catch with this thing '' and a another customer said that a woman using a pocket fisherman caught a 55 lb. striper at lake Mead on 10 lb. line , kind of crazy !!
FrankN209 reply :
On 10/8/2016 at 12:00 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:i don't know , i was by a pocket fisherman display , and i said out loud '' what could you catch with this thing '' and a another customer said that a woman using a pocket fisherman caught a 55 lb. striper at lake Mead on 10 lb. line , kind of crazy !!
I'm not saying it's not true, but for me, this would have to be I'd have to see it to believe it.
soflabasser reply :
On 10/8/2016 at 8:06 PM, FrankN209 said:I'm not saying it's not true, but for me, this would have to be I'd have to see it to believe it.
Here's a video of a guy having a blast catching tuna on a barbie rod;
Watch "Barbie Rod Tuna Fishing" on YouTube
Barbie Rod Tuna Fishing: http://youtu.be/Xx_vpmA68DE
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