Rod Length (Please Help) 2024
DatBass reply :
What is a better length for an all-purpose/versatile baitcasting rod ? 6'10" or 7'? Why or why not
FishinCop646 reply :
7' is in the middle of the ideal flipping rod and the ideal top water rod. I would not base my rod selection on length alone though.
FishinCop646 reply :
A 6'9-7' medium-heavy fast action is my choice for most versatile rod, for what it is worth!
Loop_Dad reply :
The trend is longer, 7'+. I went to longer for awhile and now coming back to shorter, meaning 6'6"-6'9". My reason for going longer originally was to be able to cast longer. My reason of going back to shorter, is now I'm happy with the distance I cast with shorter rods, and shorter rods are more joy to use. They are lighter and they are less tip heavy giving everything else is equal.
However, this comes down to personal preferences.
6'10", 7', not much difference. Either one will work.
DatBass reply :
the problem is that i like both lengths. the rod im looking at is the falcon bucoo, so even if they have the same action and stuff, i just cant decide on what i want
DatBass reply :
i guess ill just get what ever length the seller/trader has for me haha. as long as it is between 6'9"-7'2"
NorcalBassin reply :
Unless you're incredibly dialed into your equipment, I do not think you'll notice much of a difference between the two. I'd be much more concerned about the rod company and action than those two inches. Have you narrowed down your choices to any specific rods?
DatBass reply :
yea
On 2/16/2014 at 9:03 AM, NorcalBassin said:Unless you're incredibly dialed into your equipment, I do not think you'll notice much of a difference between the two. I'd be much more concerned about the rod company and action than those two inches. Have you narrowed down your choices to any specific rods?
yea falcon bucoos
NorcalBassin reply :
Sorry about that... I was a couple minutes too late! Looking at the specs on TW, I'd recommend the 7' MH due to the better range of lure ratings (1/4-3/4 for the 7' v 3/15-5/8 with the 6'10"). Either way should be a great versatile rod for you.
rippin-lips reply :
Falcons are over rated in the sense of power. The heavy is a true med/hvy and their med/hvy is a medium. Go by lure specs and not the power rating. For example their 6'10 H is labeled as a pitchin' stick but the lure ratings are 1/4-3/4. Those are md/hvy specs by any other company.
Then their 7'2 med/hvy has ratings of 1/8-3/8
GaterB reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 9:19 AM, rippin-lips said:Falcons are over rated in the sense of power. The heavy is a true med/hvy and their med/hvy is a medium. Go by lure specs and not the power rating. For example their 6'10 H is labeled as a pitchin' stick but the lure ratings are 1/4-3/4. Those are md/hvy specs by any other company.
Then their 7'2 med/hvy has ratings of 1/8-3/8
X2
bootytrain reply :
How tall are you? Being only 5'9 I cant generate as much rod speed on the cast with a 7+ ft rod vs a 6'6 to 6'8 ft rod so I can actually cast farther with the shorter rods.
doyle8218 reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 8:51 AM, FishinCop646 said:A 6'9-7' medium-heavy fast action is my choice for most versatile rod, for what it is worth!
I agree
sullyb reply :
all the different rod lengths are to make companies more money. no differece between 6'10 rod and 7ft,or 7ft. 2 inch or a 7ft. 4inch.buy which ever one you feel comfortable with in your hand.
DatBass reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 9:55 AM, bootytrain said:How tall are you? Being only 5'9 I cant generate as much rod speed on the cast with a 7+ ft rod vs a 6'6 to 6'8 ft rod so I can actually cast farther with the shorter rods.
Im 5'11"
Loop_Dad reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 9:55 AM, bootytrain said:How tall are you? Being only 5'9 I cant generate as much rod speed on the cast with a 7+ ft rod vs a 6'6 to 6'8 ft rod so I can actually cast farther with the shorter rods.
I do not get this logic. What am I missing here. Longer rod's tip moves faster, as long as the rod moves at the same speed. This has nothing to do with the angler's height.
Op, I take back my comment that 6'10" and 7' are basically same, because I though you were just asking general question vs particular rods you had in your mind. I agree with everybody else to go with lure rating.
tomustang reply :
I would be concerned about your fishing surroundings, are you limited in space for casting/movement? If standing on a open bank or big platform boat I'd go long all the time if the technique called for it (cranking, pitching, etc) but if you're on a tree branch covered bank or have too much clutter on a small kayak I would look at shorter rods.
crankcaster100 reply :
Not to hijack the thread but I have a question.
Does a jig rod have to be over 7 feet to be a good rod for jigging?
bootytrain reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 10:21 AM, Loop_Dad said:I do not get this logic. What am I missing here. Longer rod's tip moves faster, as long as the rod moves at the same speed. This has nothing to do with the angler's height.
Op, I take back my comment that 6'10" and 7' are basically same, because I though you were just asking general question vs particular rods you had in your mind. I agree with everybody else to go with lure rating.
Basically with my casting style I can swing a 6'6 rod faster than I can swing a 7ft rod.
DatBass reply :
oh yea i forgot to mention that its mostly for topwater but i will occasionally use it for jigs
tomustang reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 10:44 AM, crankcaster100 said:Not to hijack the thread but I have a question.
Does a jig rod have to be over 7 feet to be a good rod for jigging?
No.
Sensitivity matters.
Brian Needham reply :
if you are getting a Falcon bucco , get the MH maybe even the M depending how you like your rods........ I once had a 7'0 H bucco and hated it for spinnerbaits, buzzbaits ect.
Brian Needham reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 10:44 AM, bootytrain said:Basically with my casting style I can swing a 6'6 rod faster than I can swing a 7ft rod.
that defies the laws of physics if we are talking tip speed and I think we are since casting distance was talked about.
DatBass reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 5:02 AM, Brian Needham said:if you are getting a Falcon bucco , get the MH maybe even the M depending how you like your rods........ I once had a 7'0 H bucco and hated it for spinnerbaits, buzzbaits ect.
But i heard that the medium heavy feels like medium, so i might just end up getting a heavy cuz i need a medium heavy
Brian Needham reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 5:15 AM, DatBass said:But i heard that the medium heavy feels like medium, so i might just end up getting a heavy cuz i need a medium heavy
you may have heard, but I know.... I had one. The heavy was horrible for spinnerbaits and what you want to use them for, VERY stiff.
I remember when I had that rod, I had jut started fishing and couldn't be accurate as I wanted to be with my cast. I was fishing with a buddy of mine and he said Let me see your set up, he cast it, and said Needham your problem is your rod.... you are using a d**n heavy jig rod trying to throw a spinnerbait on it. HE WAS RIGHT.
the H bucco didn't have the tip needed to throw spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and all the stuff you said you wanted to throw on it. get the MH. you will still be able to throw 3/8 jigs on it.
DatBass reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 5:33 AM, Brian Needham said:you may have heard, but I know.... I had one. The heavy was horrible for spinnerbaits and what you want to use them for, VERY stiff.
I remember when I had that rod, I had jut started fishing and couldn't be accurate as I wanted to be with my cast. I was fishing with a buddy of mine and he said Let me see your set up, he cast it, and said Needham your problem is your rod.... you are using a d**n heavy jig rod trying to throw a spinnerbait on it. HE WAS RIGHT.
the H bucco didn't have the tip needed to throw spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and all the stuff you said you wanted to throw on it. get the MH. you will still be able to throw 3/8 jigs on it.
On 2/17/2014 at 5:33 AM, Brian Needham said:you may have heard, but I know.... I had one. The heavy was horrible for spinnerbaits and what you want to use them for, VERY stiff.
I remember when I had that rod, I had jut started fishing and couldn't be accurate as I wanted to be with my cast. I was fishing with a buddy of mine and he said Let me see your set up, he cast it, and said Needham your problem is your rod.... you are using a d**n heavy jig rod trying to throw a spinnerbait on it. HE WAS RIGHT.
the H bucco didn't have the tip needed to throw spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and all the stuff you said you wanted to throw on it. get the MH. you will still be able to throw 3/8 jigs on it.
Then does the MH acually feel like a MH or a M
rippin-lips reply :
It just depends on what H model you had. They have certain H models that have the ratings of a med/hvy and also certain med/hvy models that have the ratings of a med. Then they have H and med/hvy that have true ratings for that rod.On 2/17/2014 at 5:33 AM, Brian Needham said:you may have heard, but I know.... I had one. The heavy was horrible for spinnerbaits and what you want to use them for, VERY stiff.
There is no set standard in the fishing industry for power ratings. A 7'6 MH Veritas has a 1.5oz lure rating but so does a 7'6 Jadewood XH. OP here is a chart of Falcon rods. Choose your model based on the correct length,power, and action of what you want to throw.
Brian Needham reply :
I haven't felt one in 3 years........and all manufactures have different meanings for their ratings.
I do remember the H was too much rod to be throwing what you said you wanted to throw....... granted it the time I was throwing mostly 3/8ths stuff, and I am not sure even a 1/2oz spinnerbait would been any better.
Brian Needham reply :
that chart does not have the bucoo model I had on it......... mine was a 7ft H Bucoo.
even with that chart, if you want a bucoo, neither of the two bucoos on that chart will be good for you.
DatBass reply :
idk, but surely im going with a 6'10" medium heavy or heavy. i need a shorter rod for pitching and twitching without slapping the water.
new2BC4bass reply :
My Falcons are Originals, Experts and one Cara. All Mediums are rated 1/4-1/2 while MH rods are rated 1/4-3/4. For me the MH Swim Jig Special rod listed above falls into the ML catagory. However, I have noticed that some crankbait rods seem to carry a smaller weight range than a standard casting rod of the same power. Take the 7' MH Tour Edition KVD cranking rod...1/4-1/2 while the 6'10" MH casting rod is rated 3/8-3/4 oz. My new 7'7" Medium Ballistic cranking rod carries a rating of 1/4-3/4 which is what I am use to thinking of as a MH power rod. No standards among manufacturers means guys like me can be easily confused. I'd have to go with some of the other posters. Determine what weights you will be fishing. Pick a rod whose rating covers those weights...preferably a rod where the weights you want to fish are in the middle of the rod's rating. I think you will be happier fishing 1/2 oz. lures on a rod rated for 1/4-3/4 than on a rod rated 1/4-1/2 as many rods seem to perform best with weights in the midrange of their ratings.
bootytrain reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 5:04 AM, Brian Needham said:that defies the laws of physics if we are talking tip speed and I think we are since casting distance was talked about.
If you can swing the 7ft rod as fast as you can swing the 6'6 then yeah the tip speed would be greater, but its like a baseball bat, the longer the bat, the harder it is to swing, so if someone cant generate the same speed with the longer rod then the tip speed advantage is negated. 7ft rods feel a bit unwieldy to me so I cant consistently get a good stroke on it like I can with a shorter rod.
Brian Needham reply :
you don't have to swing the 7 foot as fast to get the same speed as 6'6..... so you will still cast farther, period.
now if you cant handle the 7 footer, then that is something different.
NorcalBassin reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 8:45 AM, DatBass said:What is a better length for an all-purpose/versatile baitcasting rod ? 6'10" or 7'? Why or why not
On 2/16/2014 at 9:00 AM, DatBass said:the problem is that i like both lengths. the rod im looking at is the falcon bucoo, so even if they have the same action and stuff, i just cant decide on what i want
On 2/16/2014 at 12:43 PM, DatBass said:oh yea i forgot to mention that its mostly for topwater but i will occasionally use it for jigs
On 2/17/2014 at 7:28 AM, DatBass said:idk, but surely im going with a 6'10" medium heavy or heavy. i need a shorter rod for pitching and twitching without slapping the water.
Bro, you're really starting to confuse me! If you're mostly going to use for topwater you definitely don't want a heavy.
bootytrain reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 9:14 AM, Brian Needham said:you don't have to swing the 7 foot as fast to get the same speed as 6'6..... so you will still cast farther, period.
now if you cant handle the 7 footer, then that is something different.
That's what Im saying lol.. I cant swing or handle a 7+ ft rod as well as a 6'6 so I can cast farther with the shorter rod.
J Francho reply :
I know everyone ALWAYS says a longer rod casts farther, and I agree, somewhat. However, I can hurl any half way aero bait with my 6'2" topwater rod further than anything else in my rod locker. I suppose it helps that I have a cracker of a Zillion on it, but that's sort of the point of post - it's a combination of things that make a long cast.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 12:48 PM, J Francho said:I know everyone ALWAYS says a longer rod casts farther, and I agree, somewhat. However, I can hurl any half way aero bait with my 6'2" topwater rod further than anything else in my rod locker. I suppose it helps that I have a cracker of a Zillion on it, but that's sort of the point of post - it's a combination of things that make a long cast.
^^ Right on the money ^^
If you compare apples to apples, the longer rod should cast further. The apples are the brand, model, line and lure weight ratings and the lure that's being casted being the same. I have 8' rods than do not cast as far as some of my 7 and 7'6 rods, the specs are identical but different brands.
0119 reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 10:44 AM, crankcaster100 said:Not to hijack the thread but I have a question.
Does a jig rod have to be over 7 feet to be a good rod for jigging?
No crankcaster, it doesnt have to be 7ft. "Pro's" and manufacturers have just made it vogue. In a couple of years when the sales numbers drop, "pro's" will pump up new shorter is better technology, to kick up more sales. Use what you find works for you. I jig for much bigger fish than bass with shorter and non technique specific rods all the time.
carlm01 reply :
I use my 2 loomis 6' more than any other of my rods .. I tend to be more accurate with them ...
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