First mainly fish half ounce jigs. I will be using it around dock logs and in the grass flats. wondering what action and length would be everyones recomendation
Are you casting, pitching, or flipping jigs? I use several different rods in lengths from 7' to 7'6" (Med Fast to Fast Action) for casting and pitching 3/8 to 1/2oz jigs.
I'd say Fast action and at least 7' in length. Could go XF on the action if you want, but Fast has always worked great for me with jigs and it makes the rod a bit more versatile.
I like 7'6" heavy XF action.
go with a heavy powered rod with a fast action . i prefer a rod with a lot of backbone to snap set big jig hooks .
I see you from Ontario Canada, Lake of The Woods region?
The bass, both LMB and Smallmouth are rarely going to exceed 6 lbs, so the rod, reel, line needs to be selected accordingly.
Because power ratings and action vary greatly between rod makers, do you have any idea who's rod you are looking at and what is your budget??
It's easy to state a MH or 4-5 power fast action jig/worm rod, it's a little harder to be more specific.
Tom
I'm in South Western Ontario myself and probably fish the same conditions as you and I use a Medium Fast Shimano Sellus worm and jig rod and mainly use 3/8-1/2oz jigs.
Fast action rod rated for 1/4oz - 1oz lure and 12-20lb line...For some manufacturers that's a Medium Heavy and for others it's a Heavy. For length, I like 7' rods.
The 7' MH/F St Croix (pick a model) is the perfect jig rod power/action IMO...Not counting the super heavy flipping/punching aspect of jig fishing obviously as that would be a flipping stick type rod.
On 11/30/2015 at 10:00 AM, Logan S said:Fast action rod rated for 1/4oz - 1oz lure and 12-20lb line...For some manufacturers that's a Medium Heavy and for others it's a Heavy. For length, I like 7' rods.
The 7' MH/F St Croix (pick a model) is the perfect jig rod power/action IMO...Not counting the super heavy flipping/punching aspect of jig fishing obviously as that would be a flipping stick type rod.
X2. I prefer a fast action, and my rod of choice is either a St Croix Avid 7'mhf or Dobyns Champion 734 Heavy Fast.
Does a longer rod aid in pitching distance or accuracy?
Im in the market for a good jig rod that would mostly be pitching, with some casting and pretty much no flipping.
I know most on here like a rod thats bigger than 7', but honestly too much longer than 7'4" would seem too cumbersome.
Im liking the idea of the avid x. I wasnt going to go it since the 7' MH/F didnt seem like it was for jigs/pitching into light to moderate cover, but that may be the ticket, esp since its a pretty versatile rod in the first place
On 11/30/2015 at 10:12 AM, illinifan4152 said:X2. I prefer a fast action, and my rod of choice is either a St Croix Avid 7'mhf or Dobyns Champion 734 Heavy Fast.
I have the 734C med-heavy, extra fast, with 40lb braid I use it for frogs and jigs in the thick heavy stuff. i have read Dobyns med-heavy is alot like most others heavy.
On 11/30/2015 at 10:15 AM, GoCougs14 said:Does a longer rod aid in pitching distance or accuracy?
Im in the market for a good jig rod that would mostly be pitching, with some casting and pretty much no flipping.
I know most on here like a rod thats bigger than 7', but honestly too much longer than 7'4" would seem too cumbersome.
Im liking the idea of the avid x. I wasnt going to go it since the 7' MH/F didnt seem like it was for jigs/pitching into light to moderate cover, but that may be the ticket, esp since its a pretty versatile rod in the first place
I definitely feel the longer rod allows for increased distance and accuracy when pitching. Obviously shorter rods tend to be more accurate in casting, but when I'm pitching, having the rod tip closer to the target is quite helpful.
I don't own any rods over 7', however I have several right at 7'. I'm 5'7" and a 7' rod is the maximum length I am comfortable with.
On 11/30/2015 at 10:21 AM, 68camaro said:I have the 734C med-heavy, extra fast, with 40lb braid I use it for frogs and jigs in the thick heavy stuff. i have read Dobyns med-heavy is alot like most others heavy.
You've got that flipped around. Their MH (3 power-non flipping series) is more of what you would consider a M power rod.
On 11/30/2015 at 9:24 AM, WRB said:I see you from Ontario Canada, Lake of The Woods region?
The bass, both LMB and Smallmouth are rarely going to exceed 6 lbs, so the rod, reel, line needs to be selected accordingly.
Because power ratings and action vary greatly between rod makers, do you have any idea who's rod you are looking at and what is your budget??
It's easy to state a MH or 4-5 power fast action jig/worm rod, it's a little harder to be more specific.
Tom
no kawartha lake area
last year i used a crucial 7.2 xf and was wondering if i should be using something else.
All the crucial just went on sale 50 off at local tackle store
The rod I use for half ounce jigs (specifically what I got the rod for in the first place) is a 7'2" H Fast Action Rod. I prefer a heavy rod in order to have the added backbone need for a good hook sets on a jig with a thick wire hook (also why the fast action is important). I like 7'2"-3" rod because it allows you to have better control the bait and the fish in deep water, as well as giving you better sensitivity when fishing the jig in deep water.
On 11/30/2015 at 10:45 AM, iabass8 said:You've got that flipped around. Their MH (3 power-non flipping series) is more of what you would consider a M power rod.
I miss wrote, I actually have the 735C not the 734C, oops. the 735C has a big backbone to get fish out of vegetation.
Fast or Extra Fast depending upon the rod and the manufacturer. I use both for jig and worm fishing.
Fast Action does the trick.
My ideal jig rod would probably be MH/F 7'1-7'3
I use the shimano crucial 7'2 mhxf worm and jig rod for my jigs and Texas rigs. It's my favorite rod because of the sensitive tip and the backbone. I mainly throw 1/4 oz Texas rigs and 3/8oz jigs on it. At 119 it's a great rod, at 50 it's even better.
With any single hook bait I use at least a fast, and when the bait is not a moving bait (i.e. spinnerbait) I prefer an extra fast. As far as length, I prefer 7'-7'6". I have a DX745 I use for jigs and plastics. It's a bit too heavy, but that's alright with me.
On 11/30/2015 at 11:58 AM, 68camaro said:I miss wrote, I actually have the 735C not the 734C, oops. the 735C has a big backbone to get fish out of vegetation.
The 735 is a Medium Magnum rod.
On 11/30/2015 at 11:03 AM, pigeonlake said:no kawartha lake area
last year i used a crucial 7.2 xf and was wondering if i should be using something else.
All the crucial just went on sale 50 off at local tackle store
Did that rod work for you or did you feel like you were missing something? I have several jig rods, I have a 6'6" MH-F jig rod I like for roll casting 5/16oz and 3/8oz finesse jigs along rock flats, it is also great when the water is clear and I have to stay back to far to pitch but not as far that I need a long cast. I have a 7'MH-F for most of my casting jigs, like stroking a football jig or dragging heavy ball head finesse type jigs over rock from distance just covering water, a great way to find a pattern in spring. My favorite is a 7'2" MH-XF, it is a very stout MH and is closer to a heavy power. That rod to me is perfect, it is my dedicated pitching stick as the super stiff tip allows me to pitch a good distance with accuracy with little effort, it also is long enough that I can do close quarter flipping with it and if I was going to have 1 jig rod, that is what it would be, a 7'2" MH-XF, that length just makes it super versatile as it is long enough to do some flipping and is great to pitch with and still not too cumbersome to cast with.
7'3" xfast.
Length helps with pitching and getting rod in a position to pull fish out of limbs.
Xfast makes hooksets easier and transitions into backbne of rod very quickly giving you the stoutness to yank a bass out of laydows. A fast rod or slower may bend too much allowing fish to surge into line snapping timber or docks.
On 11/30/2015 at 8:06 PM, WPCfishing said:The 735 is a Medium Magnum rod.
No, it's labeled as Mag Heavy in the Fury and Savvy line. In the Champ series its simply labeled as MHXF but is the same rod with a longer handle.
I am not a fan of X fast rods for jigs because the lighter tip or upper 1/4 of the X fast rods are extra flexible, absorbing hook setting power and can reduce strike detection depending on how you fish jigs.On 11/30/2015 at 11:03 AM, pigeonlake said:no kawartha lake area
last year i used a crucial 7.2 xf and was wondering if i should be using something else.
All the crucial just went on sale 50 off at local tackle store
Also not a fan of Shimano jig/worm rods because they don't have a fore grip, just a reel metal lock nut. The Shimano rod power ratings are usually about a 1/2 power less than some other rods. I believe they may do this to improve casting distance, it's easier to cast more flexible rod.
The fore grip issue is a personal touch and feel thing, I like fore grips on my bait casting rods because of the way of holding the rod 2 middle fingers on the fore grip, index finger and thumb used to feel the line in front of the reel.....old schools technique to determine the slightest chances in line movements.
Tom
some XF rods have soft tips and others are quite stiff. a rod tip rating would be nice!
i personally like "MBR" type fast or an XF that does not have a very soft tip when jig fishing 3/8oz plus trailer or greater.
On 11/30/2015 at 8:06 PM, WPCfishing said:The 735 is a Medium Magnum rod.
Dang....good think I don't make my living at this:)
On 11/30/2015 at 11:03 AM, pigeonlake said:no kawartha lake area
last year i used a crucial 7.2 xf and was wondering if i should be using something else.
All the crucial just went on sale 50 off at local tackle store
Don't what Shimano rod Tom uses but I've used Crucials for 10-12 yrs without a single problem.
I have two 6' 10" med-heavy xtra fast, one for Texas Rigs & one for Jigs. I throw 1/8-1/2 oz jigs from bank shallow out to 30' in timber & grass.
At $50 off I woukd jump on that
Now we need to contend with Mag or Magnum action rods by some rod builders.
What the H is Mag? If you are talking G. Loomis state of the art NRX a magnum action is a step backwards to era of more flexible tip action for better casting than the new technology stiff tip rods. You would think magnum would be stronger, not weaker...or a down grade on power/action.
This is the rod making response to the market wanting easier casting rods in my opinion.
Dobyn's Champion 735 by the numbers would be a 5 (heavy) power rod, not a 4 power ( medium heavy) with magnum or more flexible tip action....the rod guys are running out of numbers!
Tom
I don't like any casting rod without a fore grip, if you like Shimano rods, $50 off is a good deal.On 12/1/2015 at 6:45 AM, Catt said:Don't what Shimano rod Tom uses but I've used Crucials for 10-12 yrs without a single problem.
I have two 6' 10" med-heavy xtra fast, one for Texas Rigs & one for Jigs. I throw 1/8-1/2 oz jigs from bank shallow out to 30' in timber & grass.
At $50 off I woukd jump on that
Tom
On 12/1/2015 at 6:54 AM, WRB said:I don't like any casting rod without a fore grip, if you like Shimano rods, $50 off is a good deal.
Tom
Dude you're looking at pictures of their 2014 models!
I'm sitting here in my man cave looking at all 3 of my Crucials & they all have cork handles with fore grips.
And no their power is not 1/2 that of other rods; I put them on the same level as G. Loomis or St. Croix & yes I've fished all 3.
Extra fast gives you more back bone for moving big bass quickly out of cover; I know because I've caught a dozen over 10# in deep hydrilla.
Catt I don't know what vintage Crucials you have ? 2 years ago the rods at my local tackle shop didn't have cork handles or fore grips. If you like the power and action, then it's the right rod for you, they don't work for me.
Tom
On 12/1/2015 at 8:47 AM, WRB said:Catt I don't know what vintage Crucials you have ? 2 years ago the rods at my local tackle shop didn't have cork handles or fore grips. If you like the power and action, then it's the right rod for you. I would select a heavy and with cork handles and fore grip it would work for me.
Tom
I have the crucials that have eva foam, black blank and no foregrips. New crucial models have cork and green blanks, those I am not familiar with.
Sorry Tom but my newest is less than a year old!
You said, " they don't have a fore grip, just a metal nut lock", I do have one with the EVA handle that I absolutely hate because to tighten the reel seat you must turn the handle which means there is no "metal nut lock".
Based on your comments I highly doubt you're ever use one!
I wouldn't buy one, my rods are custom made for my specific requirements but when fishing with other folks I do try out different rods if they ask. I didn't like the legacy Loomis GLX jig rods or the St Croix rods, both blanks didn't feel right to, I was used to lighter weight higher power Lamiglas blanks back then. I do like the NRX rods , very similar to the rod I use, except mine are 1/2 the price. We each have our own ideas of what works and that is why folks should touch, feel, mount a reel and try out rods before buying them.On 12/1/2015 at 9:39 AM, Catt said:Sorry Tom but my newest is less than a year old!
You said, " they don't have a fore grip, just a metal nut lock", I do have one with the EVA handle that I absolutely hate because to tighten the reel seat you must turn the handle which means there is no "metal nut lock".
Based on your comments I highly doubt you're ever use one!
Lots of good choices.
Tom
I use M/H Fast w/ 1/4-1/2 jigs (SIEBERT PREFERABLY)
I use a 7' HF for pitching jigs into/around cover and 7' a MHF if I'm casting into open water(deep points, ditches etc).