Who Makes A Better Rod? St.croix Or G.loomis? 2024
Stingray23 reply :
I know this will open a can of worms, but I'm looking for opinions from actual owners. I'm looking to upgrade my rods for next season and want to know which to go with. I'm also referring to their comparably priced rods.
iabass8 reply :
You are asking too broad of a question and the only answer you will get are biased answers. This is like making a shimano vs diawa thread. Ask a more specific question regarding the specific models you are looking at. Only then will you get a solid answer. I can help you if you are refering to the glx or nrx vs xtreme as i own/owned both. Tell us what you are upgrading from and what the rods are being used for.
roadwarrior reply :
I fish both. St. Croix is the "better value", but I think G. Loomis is the better rod.
Both companies produce fine equipment. You might want to consider the Pinnacle
rods, too. They have gotten EXCELLENT reviews!
http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-optimus-xlt-dhc-review.html
Jig Man reply :
I also fish both. IMO Gloomis is the better rod.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I've owned both and was far more impressed with the St.Croixs. They offer great rods from their lower end rods that most anyone can afford to their top of the line rods. You really can't go wrong with either and if I got a great deal on a Loomis I would have no problem adding it to the collection to go along with all my St.Croix rods. Right now with so many of St.Croixs last year models of their higher end rods being in their online bargain room I don't think you'll find a better deal on a high end rod from either company than what they're offering right now.
Dwight Hottle reply :
I have both. Sometimes you will find one has a better blank for a particular application than the other. I find st croix has better fit & finish on the high end overall. Recently loomis quality control has suffered greatly.
Megastink reply :
The answer is Powell...
Capt.Bob reply :
I have owned only the GLX and IMX series from Loomis, I have fished the GL2 and GL3, I would prefer the Bionic Blade or Extreme from Bass Pro over a GL2 or 3. I sold the GLX after the second one delaminated several years ago, I would love to find someones who needs a 6' Light Fast IMX spinning rod and it would be gone, too heavy. I would replace it with a XX. XXXXX. 
I own around 20 St. Croix rods, Legend Ultra's, Elite's, and Tournament's, several Avids, Fly, spin and casting. I own a couple Premier's also, they are left over from what I furnished client's from my Great Lakes Charter Servicel. I won't part with any of them.
If you want the best rods on the planet, get a Legend Elite or Extreme, hands down the finest rods available, the Avids are great rods, lightweight with good sensitivity, but most of all they are some of the most durable rods made. I think I prefer the St. Croix rods, as long as there built in Park Falls!! 
iabass8 reply :
On 9/3/2012 at 10:10 PM, Dwight Hottle said:I have both. Sometimes you will find one has a better blank for a particular application than the other. I find st croix has better fit & finish on the high end overall. Recently loomis quality control has suffered greatly.
this is probably the best answer you will find. Being most of my rods are xtreme/ltb there is an nrx i recently acquired that wouldnt be traded for any of st croixs line. Both are fine rods an each has their strengths/weaknesses. Once you go that high up on rod series it all comes down to personaal preference rather than which is better.
Stingray23 reply :
On 9/3/2012 at 6:58 PM, iabass8 said:You are asking too broad of a question and the only answer you will get are biased answers. This is like making a shimano vs diawa thread. Ask a more specific question regarding the specific models you are looking at. Only then will you get a solid answer. I can help you if you are refering to the glx or nrx vs xtreme as i own/owned both. Tell us what you are upgrading from and what the rods are being used for.
Well, lets compare the Legend Elite, Tournament, and Xtreme to NRX, GLX, and whatever else Loomis has thats comparable. I currently fish all Quantum Tour Edition PT Signature Series rods. They have been great rods. I just want to see what all the fuss is about St Croix or Loomis. The rods will be technique specific.
Capt.Bob reply :
Go to the Bargain room and choose a Legend Extreme for the discipline you prefer. At the prices they are selling them for you can sell em on ebay and make money if your not thrilled, or recoupe you money here. But I will warn you, if you do this be prepared to replace every rod you own, they are that good, and addicting!
Stingray23 reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 3:16 AM, Capt.Bob said:Go to the Bargain room and choose a Legend Extreme for the discipline you prefer. At the prices they are selling them for you can sell em on ebay and make money if your not thrilled, or recoupe you money here. But I will warn you, if you do this be prepared to replace every rod you own, they are that good, and addicting!
Those are some great prices. Very tempting. I think I'm gonna pick one up first, try it out, and then see whether or not I like it enough to switch all my rods.
.RM. reply :
A poll between Shimano-Loomis & St Croix.....
The obvious quality builder is St. Croix... 
Bassn Blvd reply :
I've fished both and have built both. Loomis and St. Croix both make a nice, quality rod, but you have to purchase from the top of their line, IMX and above.Gl2, Gl3, Mojo, Rage, etc, are money pits in my opinion. For a few more dollars you could have a much finer rod.
iabass8 reply :
well the elite/xtreme are the same blank. These would be comparitive to the glx. The nrx is supposedly a more responsive/sensitive blank than anything on the market but the quality isnt anywhere near st.croix. lots of breakage issues with the first version of the nrx and the reel seats are a problem. With the one nrx i own i haven't had any of these issues. I wish the finish and the quality of build was that of an xtreme/elite but it is a super sensitive rod...but some are the xtremes. The legend tournament would be personally above the gl3/imx but below the glx. But you could argue they are compariable. As i said before these are top tier rods so performace wont be an issue it will just be personal preference. Either one uou pick just put your reel(s) on it and find out. The xtremes are 100$ or so off now as they are bringing in their god awful new skin grip.(i love cork) hut they said they willstill be making cork xtremes so who knows. Quality cork is expensive. St. Croixs customer service/warranty is 100xs that of loomis so thats something to look at. Eithet one uou pick you will see a drastic improvement from you current rod. If you give us techniques you want to be using it would be easier to let you know which rod of whichbrand would suit you.On 9/4/2012 at 3:07 AM, Stingray23 said:Well, lets compare the Legend Elite, Tournament, and Xtreme to NRX, GLX, and whatever else Loomis has thats comparable. I currently fish all Quantum Tour Edition PT Signature Series rods. They have been great rods. I just want to see what all the fuss is about St Croix or Loomis. The rods will be technique specific.
Sorry for the spelling, typing on a tablet sucks.
tugsandpulls reply :
have a stcroix but not a glomis so idk
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 3:07 AM, Stingray23 said:Well, lets compare the Legend Elite, Tournament, and Xtreme to NRX, GLX, and whatever else Loomis has thats comparable. I currently fish all Quantum Tour Edition PT Signature Series rods. They have been great rods. I just want to see what all the fuss is about St Croix or Loomis. The rods will be technique specific.
The rods you fish aren't even close to being in the same ballpark as St. Croix's top line of rod or the NRX, GLX.
Stingray23 reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 3:47 AM, iabass8 said:well the elite/xtreme are the same blank. These would be comparitive to the glx. The nrx is supposedly a more responsive/sensitive blank than anything on the market but the quality isnt anywhere near st.croix. lots of breakage issues with the first version of the nrx and the reel seats are a problem. With the one nrx i own i haven't had any of these issues. I wish the finish and the quality of build was that of an xtreme/elite but it is a super sensitive rod...but some are the xtremes. The legend tournament would be personally above the gl3/imx but below the glx. But you could argue they are compariable. As i said before these are top tier rods so performace wont be an issue it will just be personal preference. Either one uou pick just put your reel(s) on it and find out. The xtremes are 100$ or so off now as they are bringing in their god awful new skin grip.(i love cork) hut they said they willstill be making cork xtremes so who knows. Quality cork is expensive. St. Croixs customer service/warranty is 100xs that of loomis so thats something to look at. Eithet one uou pick you will see a drastic improvement from you current rod. If you give us techniques you want to be using it would be easier to let you know which rod of whichbrand would suit you.
Sorry for the spelling, typing on a tablet sucks.
Thanks. It appears that St.Croix will be my next rod. I will need a deep cranking rod, lipless/med-shallow cranking rod, spinnerbait rod, pitching rod, topwater rod, finesse rod, drop shot/finesse spinning rod, worm rod. Thats pretty much it.
Stingray23 reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 3:54 AM, Bassn Blvd said:The rods you fish aren't even close to being in the same ballpark as St. Croix's top line of rod or the NRX, GLX.
I've never fished a top of the line St.Croix or Loomis so i wouldnt know. I'm sure they are much better given the huge difference in price. The TE PT's have been very good to me.
iabass8 reply :
Lipless/shallow/med crank-xtreme 72mm or 72mhm or legend tournament 7'mhm
spinnerbait-legend tournament 71 mhf or 71 mhxf if you prefer xfast tips. St croixs xfast is very fast.
topwater -legend tournament 68mxf or 68mhxf
Finesse casting/spinning-69mlxf in both spinning and casting.the epinning is my favorite xtreme.
Jig/worm i switched to nrx for this for an amazing deal. Not a lot avaliable in lengths/actions for this in xtremes but the 7'mhf is great.there are plenty in legend tournaments.
Pitching- not a lot of options over 7' in older xtremes unless you go 711mhmf which is a good rod that i used in 7'6 but i sold it. Looking at adobyns extreme for this.
Stingray23 reply :
Thank you for taking the time to put this together for me. I really appreciate it.
iabass8 reply :
No problem. Good luck.
00 mod reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 4:37 AM, iabass8 said:Lipless/shallow/med crank-xtreme 72mm or 72mhm or legend tournament 7'mhm Avid mh/f for lipless and mhm for dd
spinnerbait-legend tournament 71 mhf or 71 mhxf if you prefer xfast tips. St croixs xfast is very fast. Avid mh/f
topwater -legend tournament 68mxf or 68mhxf Avid m/f
Finesse casting/spinning-69mlxf in both spinning and casting.the epinning is my favorite xtreme. Elite/Extreme ml/f spinning no clue on casting
Jig/worm i switched to nrx for this for an amazing deal. Not a lot avaliable in lengths/actions for this in xtremes but the 7'mhf is great.there are plenty in legend tournaments.Loomis BCR854 GLX
Pitching- not a lot of options over 7' in older xtremes unless you go 711mhmf which is a good rod that i used in 7'6 but i sold it. Looking at a dobyns extreme for this. Super opinionated rod here, but also get a higher end rod.
For moving baits, the absolute most sensitive rod is not that important. Make sure it fits the lure/line rating you wish to throw. For bottom contact rods, get the best you can afford!
Jeff
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 4:52 AM, 00 mod said:For moving baits, the absolute most sensitive rod is not that important. Make sure it fits the lure/line rating you wish to throw. For bottom contact rods, get the best you can afford!
Jeff
Best advice
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 4:20 AM, Stingray23 said:I've never fished a top of the line St.Croix or Loomis so i wouldnt know. I'm sure they are much better given the huge difference in price. The TE PT's have been very good to me.
I don't think you took me this way, but I didn't mean to sound snooty, haha. If you ever get a chance to fish the NRX or high end Croix then take the chance. They are very nice rods, but not necesarry to catch fish.
Alpster reply :
I have both and although they have always been overpriced, I still like the Loomis rods better overall. As Roadwarrior said, St. Croix is a a "better value" but Loomis has them beat if money is not a constraint. JMHO
Go glass for cranking and go "Lamiglas" for glass rods.
Ronnie
iabass8 reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 4:52 AM, 00 mod said:For moving baits, the absolute most sensitive rod is not that important. Make sure it fits the lure/line rating you wish to throw. For bottom contact rods, get the best you can afford!
Jeff
He was specifically asking about the upper end not the avid. You are right you dont need top end for moving baits but he asked what i recommend and im just not a fan of the avid but it is still a good rod.
central.PA.bass reply :
All I can vouch for with St. Croix is a 7' M action Avid that I use for dropshotting. I would compare it equally to my Powell Max rods. Very sensitive.
I just purchased a 6' L action Loomis IMX so hopefully it performs equally and I will be happy!
Stingray23 reply :
Any other brand out there that has comparable characteristics to St Croix and Loomis, but cheaper?
iabass8 reply :
Powell has a strong following. Abu garcia veritas does as well. How cheap are you looking to go?
Stingray23 reply :
It was more out of curiosity. I know a lot of brands sell for more due to name recognition. I was just wondering if there is a rod out there with equally good components for less?
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 11:39 AM, iabass8 said:Powell has a strong following. Abu garcia veritas does as well. How cheap are you looking to go?
The Abu Veritas compared to St Croix or Loomis as having top components is a joke.
iabass8 reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 1:38 PM, Bassn Blvd said:The Abu Veritas compared to St Croix or Loomis as having top components is a joke.
i wouldn't know. i don't use them. i only said they have a strong following.
DaveT63 reply :
I have a St Croix Extreme 7' MF with a Daiwa PX68L, and a Loomis MBR842 GLX with a Steez 103HLA on it. I had the 842/Steez first, and LOVE it, but find myself reaching for the Extreme/Pixy much more often. I think those rods are about as comparable as you will find in the 2 lines. The Extreme just seems like a much nicer rod all around to me. And at the prices they have in the Bargain room now at 30%, they are a much better value than the GLX or NRX if they have what you want.
DAve
Capt.Bob reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 11:30 AM, Stingray23 said:Any other brand out there that has comparable characteristics to St Croix and Loomis, but cheaper?
On 9/4/2012 at 11:39 AM, iabass8 said:Powell has a strong following. Abu garcia veritas does as well. How cheap are you looking to go?
The question involved the word "comparable characteristics", and cheaper, the only thing those rods have to do with the question is CHEAPER, Not even close as comparable!
NorcalBassin reply :
I have quite a few Loomis (IMX, GLX, NRX x4) and St Croix rods (Mojo, LTB x4, Legend Elite), and I give a slight edge to Loomis. However, you're definitely not going to lose whichever way you go and those bargain bin prices are unbelievable sometimes.
*Hootie reply :
On 9/4/2012 at 1:34 AM, IneedAnewScreenName-2349 said:The answer is Powell...
Wrong answer, or wrong question.
Splain Lucy!
Hootie
Lunker7 reply :
Both are very nice rods, and just like iabass8 said, you are only going to get biased answers. I personally prefer St. Croix for the value, but that's just me.
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