Disappointed in the Curado DC 2024
MDbassin reply :
I've tried and tried to love the Curado DC and I just cant. For that price I should of got another Chronarch. I follow the instructions to the T eve watch videos on how set them up and over run everytime even on setting 4. Sometimes even a full on backlash. I have to tighten it down way past what is described to get it to the point it wont overrun anymore but at that point I'm not getting the distance I should. I got the same distance on my curado k and even more distance on my lews custom pro. I feel like I paid for a K with less line capacity and a fancy whine sound. I cant believe I sold my Tatula SV's for this. I never had a problem with the SV daiwas and got the same distance. I just wish Daiwa reels werent so dang bulky and uncomfortable to hold. I'll be sticking with my Chronarchs and Lews..... I guess I need to pick up a K or 2 again now too.
jbsoonerfan reply :
If what you say is true, return it for another. Then if it happens again, well, it ain't the reel.
What I don't understand is how people have problems with these and say they follow instructions. If you have ever used a baitcaster (and obviously you have) you really shouldn't need any instructions. That is why I am guessing something is wrong with the reel.
MDbassin reply :
@jbsoonerfan I wanted to make sure i was setting the brakes up right cause apparently you dont use the brakes and spool tension knob on the DC reels like you do on a normal baitcaster. But from my experience you still have to treat it like a normal baitcaster which if you set a normal one up right it wont backlash in the first place. So basically its a baitcaster with a fancy sound lol
Mikeltee reply :
The DC is good for 2 things. To learn to skip with and to teach your kids to use a BC. If those dont apply to yourself, park your money elsewhere. It was cool to have for all of about 2 days. I lose distance compared to the Curado or Tatula SV and they are half the price. You should be able to get $200 used if you cant get your money back. I wish someone would have told me this. I would have got a Bantam MGL.
Derek1 reply :
It’s not a crazy difference in casting distance over the k. But you should get a little more distance with very little effort with no backlash. The spool tension wants to be just a little tighter than you think. Set the brakes for the line your using like it says. Then just play with the spool tension. There not backlash proof. You still have to stop The spool When bait hits the water. I can make easy 26/30 yards with a Spinnerbait and I think 50 plus with a lipless.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 9:53 AM, MDbassin said:I just wish Daiwa reels werent so dang bulky and uncomfortable to hold.
Most Daiwas aren't. Get away from the CT platform.
DanielG reply :
I love my DC. I've posted here a few times about how I learned to love it.
The directions from Shimano suck..... they don't work. The one with the tighten the knob until the reel doesn't rattle. I've contacted them. They've replied with "we'll, take it into consideration". Right...
1. Put a lure on your line
2. Set the brake for the line type. I use braided. It's set on 2.
3. Adjust the tension knob so that when you shake the rod lightly the lure drops a little, maybe a foot, with each shake.
4. You have to readjust with each weight lure. It just takes a few seconds.
I had not one entanglement all last summer. I cast into the wind, with the wind, light to med/heavy lures. I cast short. I wind up and hurl it. Hundreds of casts. No nests and NO thumb. It will lightly fuzz up a bit sometimes but always settles down. I have to concentrate to keep my thumb off the spool. I wouldn't have believed it but it's true. No kidding.
Sometimes I'll release the brake a bit or the tension knob and use my thumb but otherwise I never thumb the spool.
MDbassin reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 10:39 AM, iabass8 said:Most Daiwas aren't. Get away from the CT platform.
Is the Tatula SV a CT platform?
On 2/11/2020 at 10:42 AM, DanielG said:I love my DC. I've posted here a few times about how I learned to love it.
The directions from Shimano suck..... they don't work. The one with the tighten the knob until the reel doesn't rattle. I've contacted them. They've replied with "we'll, take it into consideration". Right...
1. Put a lure on your line
2. Set the brake for the line type. I use braided. It's set on 2.
3. Adjust the tension knob so that when you shake the rod lightly the lure drops a little, maybe a foot, with each shake.
4. You have to readjust with each weight lure. It just takes a few seconds.
I had not one entanglement all last summer. I cast into the wind, with the wind, light to med/heavy lures. I cast short. I wind up and hurl it. Hundreds of casts. No nests and NO thumb. It will lightly fuzz up a bit sometimes but always settles down. I have to concentrate to keep my thumb off the spool. I wouldn't have believed it but it's true. No kidding.
Sometimes I'll release the brake a bit or the tension knob and use my thumb but otherwise I never thumb the spool.
So what's the point then.... they make this DC to be a set and forget no matter what change in lure weight you have the DC brakes are supposed to slow the spool down regardless. So using it as a conventional BC just mean I over paid for a Curado K with a fancy whine and less line cap
iabass8 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 11:31 AM, MDbassin said:Is the Tatula SV a CT platform?
So what's the point then.... they make this DC to be a set and forget no matter what change in lure weight you have the DC brakes are supposed to slow the spool down regardless. So using it as a conventional BC just mean I over paid for a Curado K with a fancy whine and less line cap
The first gen Tatula SV is on the CT platform. The new one that just came out is on the smaller compact 100 size frame.
jbsoonerfan reply :
The only time I noticed an advantage with the DC was in the wind throwing a bait that has a tendency to "catch air" like a spinnerbait or buzzbait. It seemed to help keep the line from blowing up when the bait caught air. I also noticed it was only helpful when using mono as opposed to braid. I didn't try mine with fluoro though.
FishTank reply :
I have the DC and K and the DC, for me, has been an awesome reel (the K is great as well). It casts a mile in the wind, I have to really do something stupid to get to backlash at any setting, and it's smooth as butter. The only thing I have found to be an issue is braid. It's just seemed as the line got wetter/heavier the DC breaking would tend to get fooled at the start of the cast. I switched to 12lb FC and no issues.
Also, I would ignore the instructions on the reel as far as the number system goes. I set it as follows.
1. Wind to my back and I want to cast it a mile
2. The pretty much you can set it here and forget it setting
3. Throwing into the wind - any bait that could helicopter (spinnerbaits, big cranks, etc)
4. Skipping under docks and pitching
Most lures I use are between 3/8 and 3/4 of an ounce. So I set the spool tension knob with a 1/2 oz bait to the point where it falls to ground at a slow but steady pace.
That's it.
kayaking_kev reply :
So far I'm liking my SLX XT more than my SLX DC, unless it's really windy. I wasn't impressed with the casting distance, but I don't get backlashes when I have it setup correctly, but neither do I on most non DC reels if they are dialed in good enough. It was nice to try out, but I would rather have a MGL.
MDbassin reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 11:42 AM, iabass8 said:The first gen Tatula SV is on the CT platform. The new one that just came out is on the smaller compact 100 size frame.
I'll have to give that one a look then
DanielG reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 11:31 AM, MDbassin said:Is the Tatula SV a CT platform?
So what's the point then.... they make this DC to be a set and forget no matter what change in lure weight you have the DC brakes are supposed to slow the spool down regardless. So using it as a conventional BC just mean I over paid for a Curado K with a fancy whine and less line cap
A slight adjustment of the tension knob and you can ignore your thumb and no backlashes. That's like a conventional bait caster? Take your regular baitcaster and take your thumb off the spool.. forever. See then if there is a difference. That's what you paid for, and it works.
Shimano never said, set it and forget it. That's why there is a tension knob on the reel.
BobbyBudnick reply :
I think you might have a faulty reel. I use 30 pound power pro braid on my curado dc. I use it for Texas rigs with 1/8 to 1/4 oz weights and whatever plastic lure I'm using. Setting 2, no spool tension and I never backlash.
Chris Carey reply :
Love my curado dc, casts a mile and I don’t thumb it at all.
FordsnFishin reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 9:57 AM, jbsoonerfan said:If what you say is true, return it for another. Then if it happens again, well, it ain't the reel.
What I don't understand is how people have problems with these and say they follow instructions. If you have ever used a baitcaster (and obviously you have) you really shouldn't need any instructions. That is why I am guessing something is wrong with the reel.
@jbsoonerfan, you fishing any of the new dc's?
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 9:35 PM, FordsnFishin said:@jbsoonerfan, you fishing any of the new dc's?
I had the Curado and the Scorpion DC100. They were both fine reels but not anything I didn't feel like my other reels could do. Like I have said before, to me, the only advantage I could tell was into the wind with a spinnerbait. I sold both of mine simply due to the resale value and the fact that I didn't feel like I needed the technology. I replaced them with Bantam MGL's and would do it again.
Jaderose reply :
I see people say the one of the great advantages of DC reels is that you don't need to "use your thumb." I guess I don't understand this as there is NO WAY I would ever stop using my thumb as a brake. I keep my brakes basically turned off on my BC's and rely almost completely on my thumb. I can't imagine that most older people aren't like this. They might be great but the idea of an "electric" reel just seems silly to me.
Dens228 reply :
I bought the Curado DC, I liked it but not as much as my Tatula's. It didn't cast any better and the Tatula's seemed smoother. JMHO.
I sold the DC and bought another Tatula.
TBAG reply :
Sounds to me like it might be defective.
Fishes in trees reply :
It is fairly obvious that you haven't bonded with your Curado DC. Do not sell it. That will make the reel feel like an orphan and it won't work well for anyone. (maybe it feels like an orphan now and that's why it isn't working like you'd like ) Instead, I'd recommend that you banish that reel, send it far away from Eastern Shore, Maryland, to somewhere that it has a better chance to be appreciated, where it can live with other Curado DC's, and other members of the Shimano family.
I'd suggest you ship it to a home in a decent fishing barn, quietly located in the outskirts of the KC Metro area. It will, hopefully, get to go fishing once a week in season and on those weeks where the weather doesn't cooperate it will get to stay indoors and listen to old blues & rock and maybe a Royals game.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Seem like you are pretty well experienced in baitcaster, I’m not sure why you get DC reel and expect too much from it. Just like other said DC should be good for inexperienced on in some special situation not everyday use.
If I have money laying around, I might get a DC reel but not for any of it features just for the sound so ppl around me know I use DC reel ????.
suzuki2903 reply :
went through the same situation with my slx dc. and talking to shimano was no help at all other then them telling me im over thinking it as far as setup instructions... skipping is perfect and so is casting into the wind but to set it per their instructions and have no backlash isnt going to happen and you still have to thumb is before the bait hits the water which shimano did tell me about. my opinion is that these dc reels are over hyped and dont do exactly as they claim to do! but ill admit with some time spent on it, im pretty happy with it. would i buy another? nope! i know how to throw a baitcast reel already and the money could have been spent on a better reel i my opinion. i use braid and use setting 2 and spool tension i set just like any other reel, bait falls steady to ground and when it hits, the spool doesnt fluff up.
MDbassin reply :
I will say guys I got it set up so it works as advertised but i did some testing tonight. Same rod, same line same lure. I cast and after every cast I would back things off a little until I would get a little backlash then go back so all 3 reels are set up the same then I threw 5 casts and did the math. This wasn't completely scientific as I didnt have a measuring wheel or anything but I went off the IPT on each companies website and these were the results. CURADO DC - 31 IPT and 45 handle cranks is 1395 inches. TATULA SV 29.4 IPT and 50 handle cranks is 1470 inches. LEWS CUSTOM PRO 30 IPT and 50 handle cranks is 1500 inches. So the difference is in my testing anyway is only 6-8 ft and the DC is still the loser on this one. 6-8 ft isnt a big deal so it's not that bad but it's not what you keep seeing on youtube and everything of it out casting reels by 20 ft.... the K maybe but other non shimano reels no. So for this price point in shimano I'm sticking with my Chronarch MGL's
jeffo21 reply :
LoL should have gotten a Lew's
PhishLI reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 10:48 AM, MDbassin said:I will say guys I got it set up so it works as advertised but i did some testing tonight. Same rod, same line same lure. I cast and after every cast I would back things off a little until I would get a little backlash then go back so all 3 reels are set up the same then I threw 5 casts and did the math. This wasn't completely scientific as I didnt have a measuring wheel or anything but I went off the IPT on each companies website and these were the results. CURADO DC - 31 IPT and 45 handle cranks is 1395 inches. TATULA SV 29.4 IPT and 50 handle cranks is 1470 inches. LEWS CUSTOM PRO 30 IPT and 50 handle cranks is 1500 inches. So the difference is in my testing anyway is only 6-8 ft and the DC is still the loser on this one. 6-8 ft isnt a big deal so it's not that bad but it's not what you keep seeing on youtube and everything of it out casting reels by 20 ft.... the K maybe but other non shimano reels no. So for this price point in shimano I'm sticking with my Chronarch MGL's
Unfortunately, not scientific at all. IPT will tell you nothing for a number of reasons. Put a marker down where the lure landed and measure the difference between reels if you don't want to hassle with measuring the actual distance.
MDbassin reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 11:05 AM, PhishLI said:Unfortunately, not scientific at all. IPT will tell you nothing for a number of reasons. Put a marker down where the lure landed and measure the difference between reels if you don't want to hassle with measuring the actual distance.
d**n way to kill my inner scientist lol
PhishLI reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 11:08 AM, MDbassin said:d**n way to kill my inner scientist lol
Good sense of humor, man! Glad your reel isn't defective.
MDbassin reply :
Tonight was just a quick down and dirty since it's dark by the time I get home. This weekend now that I got it working I plan to actually measure them out
FishTank reply :
You can skip the first 5 minutes of this guy though. The video shows clearly how the DC should function in his first cast. The line will start to draw away from the spool and then the spool magically slows down to keep the line in check without backlashing.
DanielG reply :
On 2/14/2020 at 7:27 AM, FishTank said:You can skip the first 5 minutes of this guy though. The video shows clearly how the DC should function in his first cast. The line will start to draw away from the spool and then the spool magically slows down to keep the line in check without backlashing.
Like I've written about in previous posts. This is my experience. A little fuzz sometime but it settles down. No backlashes once set correctly. I estimate maybe 1000+ casts last summer. I never pulled a thread afterwards from May till October.
FishTank reply :
On 2/14/2020 at 8:20 AM, DanielG said:Like I've written about in previous posts. This is my experience. A little fuzz sometime but it settles down. No backlashes once set correctly. I estimate maybe 1000+ casts last summer. I never pulled a thread afterwards from May till October.
I can't confirm this is true but I get the sense that it's sort learning how I cast. It just seemed to get better over time.
Chief250 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 10:42 AM, DanielG said:I love my DC. I've posted here a few times about how I learned to love it.
The directions from Shimano suck..... they don't work. The one with the tighten the knob until the reel doesn't rattle. I've contacted them. They've replied with "we'll, take it into consideration". Right...
1. Put a lure on your line
2. Set the brake for the line type. I use braided. It's set on 2.
3. Adjust the tension knob so that when you shake the rod lightly the lure drops a little, maybe a foot, with each shake.
4. You have to readjust with each weight lure. It just takes a few seconds.
I had not one entanglement all last summer. I cast into the wind, with the wind, light to med/heavy lures. I cast short. I wind up and hurl it. Hundreds of casts. No nests and NO thumb. It will lightly fuzz up a bit sometimes but always settles down. I have to concentrate to keep my thumb off the spool. I wouldn't have believed it but it's true. No kidding.
Sometimes I'll release the brake a bit or the tension knob and use my thumb but otherwise I never thumb the spool.
I agree. I used the steps above. I never looked for any different settings. I adjust mine when I switch lures and while it doesn't feel as nice as reels priced above it, it does bomb lures, especially heavy ones. I could throw a 1/2 trap or whopper plopper to the moon on 40-65lb smackdown.
CapeCodSox reply :
Ive tried them all … Tatula's … Lew's Hyper and Pro and I cant see how it's even close ?
Shimano Chonarch's and Mentanium's just blew the doors off of everything.
LOL … both Lew's had issues after the first day.
Really tough to beat a Shimano.
Now if the Tatula's would get away from the T-wing mechanism they would be incredible. They are getting lighter and smaller too.
There are some great deals on Chronarch's and Metanium's out on the web too.
TBAG reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 11:05 AM, jeffo21 said:LoL should have gotten a Lew's
LOL, right........
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
I think the DC system is overhyped which can lead to disappointment. At first I was a bit disappointed until I used it more, now I am loving the sound and the smoothness if the casts.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/12/2020 at 10:48 AM, MDbassin said:I will say guys I got it set up so it works as advertised but i did some testing tonight. Same rod, same line same lure. I cast and after every cast I would back things off a little until I would get a little backlash then go back so all 3 reels are set up the same then I threw 5 casts and did the math. This wasn't completely scientific as I didnt have a measuring wheel or anything but I went off the IPT on each companies website and these were the results. CURADO DC - 31 IPT and 45 handle cranks is 1395 inches. TATULA SV 29.4 IPT and 50 handle cranks is 1470 inches. LEWS CUSTOM PRO 30 IPT and 50 handle cranks is 1500 inches. So the difference is in my testing anyway is only 6-8 ft and the DC is still the loser on this one. 6-8 ft isnt a big deal so it's not that bad but it's not what you keep seeing on youtube and everything of it out casting reels by 20 ft.... the K maybe but other non shimano reels no. So for this price point in shimano I'm sticking with my Chronarch MGL's
IPT isn't static. It's based on a full spool . Your IPT vary based on the amount of line you have on the reel , spool circumference and depth of the spool. the less line you have on the spool, the lesser your IPT are. Gear ratio remains the same but IPT lessens as line is taken off the spool.
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