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jimmyjoe reply :

Good evening. I have a ML/F 7' Avid-X spinning rod (high frame guides). Some mono lines don't like spinning reels, and some don't like high frame, small ring guides. I need a mono line to throw 3/8 oz. spoons as far as possible. Locally, the choices are very limited. Anyone have advice on a particular line for me to get and use? Thnx. jj

CroakHunter reply :

Big fan of seaguar senshi if you can find it.

Boomstick reply :

I usually use Daiwa J-Braid (15lb for finesse) on most of my finesse spinning rods, Sunline SX1 12lb on one tie on leaders. Seaguar blue label 6lb is a solid leader choice but I've been using a lot of 6lb Berkley Trilene XL this year. If the line is thin enough, you don't have to worry about the knot getting stuck going through the guides, even on my Avid X with micro guides, it's a non issue.

I also ran 8lb mono on one before, and if spooled correctly you shouldn't have any issues.

GeekFisher reply :

On 10/21/2018 at 6:41 AM, jimmyjoe said:

Good evening. I have a ML/F 7' Avid-X spinning rod (high frame guides). Some mono lines don't like spinning reels, and some don't like high frame, small ring guides. I need a mono line to throw 3/8 oz. spoons as far as possible. Locally, the choices are very limited. Anyone have advice on a particular line for me to get and use? Thnx. jj

3/8 on a med-light ! I'm using a Med/heavy for tubes with 1/4 tube head ???? If that helps, I'm using 15lbs braid on my medium Light spinning rods with 12lbs fluoro leaders.

burrows reply :

Gliss is the best casting line for spinning reels if you’re looking for distance add your preferred leader.

MickD reply :

In my opinion, you don't want any mono or FC for that rod, considering your long distance casting requirement. Go with a braid no higher than 15 pound test. 10 pound will cast a mile and has the strength so you won't have to be "tender" with it. Braid is usually considerably stronger than its stated pound test.

The only mono that will cast like you want is probably 4 or 6 pound test, and they are too fragile for me.

jimmyjoe reply :

" ... The only mono that will cast like you want is probably 4 or 6 pound test, and they are too fragile for me. "

What about 6 lb. test Gamma copoly? Yes .... no? Maybe? I don't like to use braid with spoons. I twitch them constantly, and the next thing you know, I have a birdnest that would make a baitcaster shudder. And yes, I use ballbearing swivels. Mono is much more tolerant, and easier to straighten out. You might say it gives me more advance notice. ???? jj

The Fisher reply :

Sufix NanoBraid to a Fluoro Leader...casts a mile

livin2fish reply :

I like 15# Fins Windtamer to Fluoro or Mono leader. Have used Nano and Gliss.

jimmyjoe reply :

This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line. That's still my question. Which mono line for the rod stated would you use for long distance with a 3/8 oz. spoon? jj

Hulkster reply :

I like Sufix Siege mono for all my spinning and baitcasting applications. its the best overall line that I have used in terms of strength, abrasion resistance and low memory. Some lines are more limp, but they are not as strong or tough.

for my spinning gear, I like to use 8 and 10 pound tests.

for my casting gear, I use 12 pound.

Columbia Craw reply :

Sunline Super Natural. Very soft and manageable.

jimmyjoe reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 3:38 AM, Columbia Craw said:

Sunline Super Natural. Very soft and manageable.

I've seen that locally, someplace or other. How's the knot strength on it? How stretchy is it? Thnx. jj

Brad Reid reply :

I had excellent results, never issues, using Sufix Elite mono. If I were to wind up some mono again, I'd likely use it again.

Brad

jimmyjoe reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 5:51 AM, Brad Reid said:

I had excellent results, never issues, using Sufix Elite mono. If I were to wind up some mono again, I'd likely use it again.

Brad

Hulkster mentioned Siege, and you mentioned Elite. Looks like they're the same diameter. Do you know what material difference there is between the two, if there's any? jj

Hulkster reply :

Siege is slightly more stiff but not much- I have no issues with it on spinning gear.. Elite is more limp.

but Siege has better abrasion resistance and might be stronger. I just stuck with siege for everything. but Elite might be better for spinning gear.

Brad Reid reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 6:11 AM, jimmyjoe said:

Hulkster mentioned Siege, and you mentioned Elite. Looks like they're the same diameter. Do you know what material difference there is between the two, if there's any? jj

I have only used Elite and I can't comment about which is better. But, from Sufix:

Each Sufix monofilament fishing line has a set of features that make it ideal for specific situations or angler types. For strength, smooth casting and easy handling, opt for Elite or ProMix mono. For superior casting distance with pinpoint accuracy, go with Sufix Siege.

jimmyjoe reply :

Thanks, both of you. I'll tell Santa what to get me. ???????????? jj

Columbia Craw reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 5:35 AM, jimmyjoe said:

I've seen that locally, someplace or other. How's the knot strength on it? How stretchy is it? Thnx. jj

Stretch is no worse than any mono and I have yet to have a knot failure. Read the evaluation on TT.

Brad Reid reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 9:42 AM, Columbia Craw said:

Stretch is no worse than any mono and I have yet to have a knot failure. Read the evaluation on TT.

For sure, and actually quite a lot better than monofilaments of the past.

If you want to feel really, really stretchy mono, give the red line that comes standard on many Zebco spincast reels a tug. Some rubber bands don't stretch that much! These great Sufix lines are nothing at all like that.

For sure on knots: mono holds great!

Brad

Choporoz reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 2:58 AM, jimmyjoe said:

This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line.

Perhaps...but why does it have to be mono? Like @Burrows above, I use Gliss. The title was specific about distance and you will not get greater distance with anything else. I now use it on every one of my spinning rods, always with a leader.

However, if you do go with mono, consider KVD Line conditioner - it will help your manageability.

Preytorien reply :

I have had the best luck with either Gliss, YGK Soul, or Seaguar Smackdown

All are very thin and cast very far with ease

BassWhole! reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 2:58 AM, jimmyjoe said:

This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line. That's still my question. Which mono line for the rod stated would you use for long distance with a 3/8 oz. spoon? jj

If you are looking at mono, any soft mono will work. It's going to be a trade off between casting distance and breaking strength required. I'd go with 6 or 8 lb xl. Are you bass fishing with spoons? because if so, they shouldn't be spinning too much. If you are using a ball bearing swivel and still getting twist, you need a better one and possibly a smaller one.

Not sure what you are trying to do, but If I required long casts with spoons, I'd go with braid and a leader, and I always look to mono as a first choice over braid. What spoon are you using?

J Francho reply :

Any decent 6# line should give you the distance you want. I toss 2/5 oz. spoons all day long on medium spinning gear, using my preferred line (6# Invisx fluoro) for rainbows and browns that are considerably bigger than any bass. That's just a tiny bit heavier than the 3/8 oz. baits you referenced. The key to super long casts with spoons is rod length. You can get it pretty far with a 7' rod. I use a 9' rod for this, though.

WRB reply :

What spinning reel are you using, size makes a big difference when suggesting line.

Line memory and diameter not just pound test is key to casting distance.

Also line dressing helps to reduce friction and memory.

Tom

Hulkster reply :

if you end up using either of the Sufix mono's I would caution you against using a normal improved clinch knot. these lines are super slick (that's part of why they cast so well) and I have had issues with knot slippage using that particular knot. I have read of others having similar issues.

A palmar knot however, is solid. it wont slip and works very well with these slick monos.

jimmyjoe reply :

On 10/23/2018 at 2:52 AM, reason said:

What spoon are you using?

3/8 Kastmaster up high, and 3/8 Fighting Fish down low. Also use 1/3 Cop-e-cat, kinda in-between.

On 10/23/2018 at 4:11 AM, WRB said:

What spinning reel are you using

Shimano Stradic 2500

On 10/23/2018 at 3:42 AM, J Francho said:

The key to super long casts with spoons is rod length. You can get it pretty far with a 7' rod. I use a 9' rod for this, though.

Understood. I have lots of irons in the fire, and don't want to buy another rod anytime soon. ????

(Did I really just say that?????) jj

WRB reply :

Excellent reel that will last for a very long time with normal care.

3/8 oz Kastmaster is easy to cast, very aerodynamic lure. I use more moderate action rods for structure spoons like a Kastmaster to help prevent tearing hooks out, plus a moderate action rod launches lures further then fast action rods with less effort.

With a 2500 size spool Sunline Super Natural 8 lb (.009 dia) mono should perform very good for you.

Tom

jimmyjoe reply :

On 10/23/2018 at 7:53 AM, WRB said:

I use more moderate action rods for structure spoons like a Kastmaster to help prevent tearing hooks out

Absolutely true. But I tolerate the characteristics of my rod in order to gain better control and a better hookset at distance.

WRB reply :

Sharp hooks and learn to reel set with a rod sweep.

Tom

jimmyjoe reply :

Thnx! jj

zell_pop1 reply :

On 10/23/2018 at 7:35 AM, Hulkster said:

if you end up using either of the Sufix mono's I would caution you against using a normal improved clinch knot. these lines are super slick (that's part of why they cast so well) and I have had issues with knot slippage using that particular knot. I have read of others having similar issues.

A palmar knot however, is solid. it wont slip and works very well with these slick monos.

I had that problem with Siege, so I used the Improved Trilene knot. However I use Gamma copoly now, including 8lb on my spinning rod and it casts well and has good strength.

J Francho reply :

Here's my "super secret" spoon mod that I tell everyone about. Do this, use a fast or X-fast rod, and swing away. Works on all species I fish for. Never use a treble with a spoon.

jimmyjoe reply :

More super, more secret: https://outdooraddictions.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/the-trailing-hook-method/

This seems to be the answer for short-striking bass. I don't use it where there are pike, though. jj

jbrew73 reply :

On 10/23/2018 at 8:25 PM, J Francho said:

Here's my "super secret" spoon mod that I tell everyone about. Do this, use a fast or X-fast rod, and swing away. Works on all species I fish for. Never use a treble with a spoon.

Looks all worn from catching fish. Maybe you should buy a new one. ????

J Francho reply :

Just put a new hook on it. Paint is perfect.

Fishingmickey reply :

On 10/22/2018 at 2:58 AM, jimmyjoe said:

This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line. That's still my question. Which mono line for the rod stated would you use for long distance with a 3/8 oz. spoon? jj

I would go to either Sun line Deflier 8-10lb or Berkley XL 8-10lb.

jimmyjoe reply :

On 10/23/2018 at 9:17 PM, J Francho said:

Just put a new hook on it. Paint is perfect.

Man, that's an ugly looking bass! ???????????????????? jj

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