Looking for a sub 250 USD reel for frogging and pitching 2024
freelancer27 reply :
Hi all,
looking for a sub 250 USD reel for for frogging and pitching. I want to run heavier braid on the reel.
Requirements are:
* Sturdy
* Light (sub 8oz)
* Casting ability with braid
* bonus: salt water safe
* very fast gear ratio
* Left hand retrieve
* Cost under 250
Possible candidates:
* Lew's BB-1 Pro Series
* Daiwa Tatula SV TWS
* Daiwa Tatula CT Type-R
* Daiwa Tatula Casting
Thanks all.
Cheers,
Seb.
Finnz922 reply :
Sv103. Never look back
freelancer27 reply :
On 8/13/2017 at 11:13 PM, Finnz922 said:Sv103. Never look back
How is the reel with lighter lures (popper) with heavy braid? Any experience?
CTBassin860 reply :
Not sure if its SW safe but the Tatula CT is an amazing pitching/frogging reel. The 7.3:1 is what i use.
Finnz922 reply :
On 8/13/2017 at 11:14 PM, freelancer27 said:How is the reel with lighter lures (popper) with heavy braid? Any experience?
Popping frogs? If that is what you meant, it's just fine. One of my go-to baits is a Spro Poppin' Frog. if you meant a popper like a Pop-R or G-Splash, I don't use braid for those and wouldn't. Not for me. I like mono for that style of baits.
I throw the Spro Jr. Frogs and t-rigs down to 1/8oz Tungsten + hook/plastic, Senko's, and 1/4oz jigs. I have no issues with the reel handling those. Of course your rod plays a big role in casting light baits also. I like an IROD 733, 744, 754, and 764. I only own 1 SV103XS and it is now my favorite reel.
Currently my lineup consists of 1 SV103XS, 5 OG Zillions, 4 Tat CT's, 1 Tat SV, 2 Fuego CT's, and 2 Alphas w/ aftermarket SV spools. I just unloaded 3 Pixies and have owned the Zillion SV, SV105, and OG Steez. The SV103XS is by far my favorite out of all the reels. The Zillion SV was ok, but I'm partial to the OG body style. The SV105 just wasn't my thing, the after market SV spools for the Alphas are much better IMO. As for the Steez, I unloaded it for a mint JDM Zillion. Wish I would have kept the Steez and bought an SV spool for it. Oh well.
hawgenvy reply :
If you want something light weight and truly salt water safe, check out the specs on the new Lew's Custom Inshore reel. Only 6.6 oz and 7.5:1. Aluminum frame. Drag up to 20 lbs, which is practically unheard of in a low profile reel. Sounds ideal for your needs, unless you don't like the white and blue look. Only $199, but not avail till Sept 28 on TW.
I wouldn't mind trying out that reel by pulling a huge snook out of wood pilings on #65 braid!
freelancer27 reply :
On 8/14/2017 at 1:00 AM, hawgenvy said:If you want something light weight and truly salt water safe, check out the specs on the new Lew's Custom Inshore reel. Only 6.6 oz and 7.5:1. Aluminum frame. Drag up to 20 lbs, which is practically unheard of in a low profile reel. Sounds ideal for your needs, unless you don't like the white and blue look. Only $199, but not avail till Sept 28 on TW.
I wouldn't mind trying out that reel by pulling a huge snook out of wood pilings on #65 braid!
Nice reel. Though I need a lefty, also I am not sure how well the line guide works for strong braid. I made the experience that a smaller opening has a negative effect here.
Big-Bass reply :
SV103!
DomQ reply :
Quantum smoke speed freak!
8.1:1 gear ratio
35 IPT
170 yards of 30lb braid
And here's the kicker
25LB of drag!!!
The reel is a monster, I have the 8.1:1 and the 6.3:1 and they are butter smooth, feels very solid and this reel can out cast anything I've ever picked up and tossed, beat my curado and citica, tatula type r, tatula HD, Lews bb1 pro, daiwa costal. It is definitely something to consider and its at a great price point
fishnkamp reply :
My reel for throwing SK Popping Perch and all my frogs is a Daiwa Tatula Type R 8-1 lefty. It works great.
The reel on my rod I throw weightless Stanley Ribbits ( a standard toad with just a hook) is a Tatula CT. It is a 7.3-1 lefty, it works awesome. I can skip with fairly well ( don't read anything into the reels operation, I am not the worlds best skipper LOL)
I fish on the Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries often and that is salt/tidal water. All of my Diawas have held up fine. I guess if you mean you are going salt water fishing for snook or something perhaps look at a Daiwa Coastal 200 reel.
Chris at Tech reply :
Third vote for the sv103
david in va reply :
On 8/14/2017 at 8:10 AM, Chris at Tech said:Third vote for the sv103
make that 4
Dtrombly reply :
What about the Lews Super Duty?
freelancer27 reply :
Thanks all,
I am wondering if the SV103 is salt proof? I am also eying on the Daiwa Zillion HD that can be had for 250USD online.
My applications are:
* Line: Braid 30 - 65 #
* Lures: frogs 1/4 - 1/2 oz, 3/4 buzzbaits, 1.5 oz weighted plastics for flipping, up to 1oz jigs
Thanks all.
38 Super Fan reply :
I was kind of thinking Super Duty too, not sure about the salt resistance though.
I just bought a SV103 and I like it pretty well so far, but I'm not sure it would be my choice for punching 1.5oz weights, or throwing 1oz jigs.
fishballer06 reply :
I'm not sure why the new Curado K isn't on this list... but the SV103 is a pretty good reel as well. I use mine for flipping and it does a great job.
Jeff H reply :
On 8/14/2017 at 1:22 PM, 38 Super Fan said:I was kind of thinking Super Duty too, not sure about the salt resistance though.
I just bought a SV103 and I like it pretty well so far, but I'm not sure it would be my choice for punching 1.5oz weights, or throwing 1oz jigs.
Why not? This is a free floater which would be best for high load situations IMO. It's an OG Zillion with an SV spool. Pretty solid reel
38 Super Fan reply :
On 8/14/2017 at 10:23 PM, Jeff H said:Why not? This is a free floater which would be best for high load situations IMO. It's an OG Zillion with an SV spool. Pretty solid reel
I'm not saying the SV103 couldn't get the job done, I'd just personally reach for one of my Super Duty reels for punching 1.5 oz weights, or throwing 1oz jigs. That's right in the Super Duty's wheelhouse.
freelancer27 reply :
On 8/14/2017 at 1:22 PM, 38 Super Fan said:I was kind of thinking Super Duty too, not sure about the salt resistance though.
I just bought a SV103 and I like it pretty well so far, but I'm not sure it would be my choice for punching 1.5oz weights, or throwing 1oz jigs.
Why wouldnt u be throwing heavier lures?
What are the cons and pros of the reel in your opinion?
freelancer27 reply :
So the SV 103 is considered to be a better buy than the Zillion HD?
This one here https://japanlureshop.com/daiwa-zillion-tw-2188.html seems to be the perfect frogging and pitching reel.
Is that the XHG version of the Zillion HD or what is it called in the US?
Thanks!
38 Super Fan reply :
On 8/15/2017 at 12:33 AM, freelancer27 said:Why wouldnt u be throwing heavier lures?
What are the cons and pros of the reel in your opinion?
Both are fine reels, I just think the Super Duty is a little better reel for heavier lures, and for flippin'/pitching/punching. It just has a stronger/sturdier feel to me. I personally like the ergos of the SD more than the SV103 as well.
I do like the SV103 more than the SD as an all around reel, and it has a better braking system. I'd give it an edge on casting distance too.
freelancer27 reply :
Leaning towards the 9.1 model of http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/daiwa/low-profile-casting-reels/daiwa-zilliontw2015.html
Anyone has experience with the reel or a link to a review?
Thx!
freelancer27 reply :
The more I search the more I find.
I think I will make a decision between the following three reels:
*Daiwa SV103*
+ Sturdy
+ Affordable (230 USD)
+ SV spool for lighter lures
+ good line capacity
+ good (fast) gear ratio
- not officially safe for saltwater
- bit heavier
*DAIWA 15 ZILLION TW 1516 XXHL*
+ Sturdy
+ Super Fast gear ratio
+ Salt water safe
+ cool looks
+ TWS for pitching bigger braid
- only available through Japanese websites (shipping time + no local warranty)
- More expensive (270 USD)
- Unsure about the torque for big bass
- line capacity not as much (12mono /110 yards)
*Shimano Curado 200K*
+ seems to be sturdy enough from the first reviews
+ fast gear ratio
+ nice looks
+ decent price
- line guide seems too small for big braided lines
- not enough reviews out there
- not available till end of september
What would you do guys?
Thanks for your help!
Tim Kelly reply :
I use a tatula type R 8:1, which is the same shape as the zillion TWS. It's a bit more solid feeling than the Tat CT, and I don't have a problem with the marginally larger frame size. I really can't see there'd be anything to gain for frogging or punching by using a more expensive reel (I have more expensive reels), but if you insist on spending more any of your choices would be fine, as would the HD versions of the Zillion and Tatula from the USDM if you felt you needed more line capacity for some reason. 65lb Power Pro Maxcuatro is a great match for frog and punching duties BTW.
new2BC4bass reply :
I wouldn't worry too much about shipping time from Japan. It was like 4 days for my last reel to arrive from Japan Tackle. Warranty might be more of a problem. Don't know anything about that.
freelancer27 reply :
Went ahead and order the SV103 and the ZIllion HD from TW.
Will have a look and see how they feel. Just saw that I could get the Zillion HD for 315 USD shipped from TTT vs the 245 USD for the SV103.
Based on those prices, is the HD the better pick?
Thanks!
Tim Kelly reply :
They're all good reels, any preference is going to be down to your own choice, you're not going to get a definitive answer from anyone. I would say that those two are quite different reels with very different spool capacities, so it should be easy to pick which one is more suitable for what you want to do with it.
Chance_Taker4 reply :
Ardent Apex Elite. That's the reel I use for frogging and flipping. It is smaller than most reels and the lightest reel I have ever used. I have it spooled with 40# braid and never had any issues with it.
Big-Bass reply :
On 8/16/2017 at 1:03 PM, freelancer27 said:The more I search the more I find.
I think I will make a decision between the following three reels:
*Daiwa SV103*+ Sturdy
+ Affordable (230 USD)
+ SV spool for lighter lures
+ good line capacity
+ good (fast) gear ratio
- not officially safe for saltwater
- bit heavier
*DAIWA 15 ZILLION TW 1516 XXHL*
+ Sturdy
+ Super Fast gear ratio
+ Salt water safe
+ cool looks
+ TWS for pitching bigger braid
- only available through Japanese websites (shipping time + no local warranty)
- More expensive (270 USD)
- Unsure about the torque for big bass
- line capacity not as much (12mono /110 yards)
*Shimano Curado 200K*
+ seems to be sturdy enough from the first reviews
+ fast gear ratio
+ nice looks
+ decent price
- line guide seems too small for big braided lines
- not enough reviews out there
- not available till end of september
What would you do guys?Thanks for your help!
http://www.daiwa.com/us/contents/reels/sv_series/index.html
The SV103 does not say "freshwater only" and if you look at each model, it can be used in (M)edium freshwater and (L)ight saltwater. They have CRBB bearings.
Tim Kelly reply :
The SV103 and Zillion SV would have been a logical pair to compare. Not sure where the zillion HD came into the equation?
freelancer27 reply :
On 8/18/2017 at 10:57 PM, Tim Kelly said:The SV103 and Zillion SV would have been a logical pair to compare. Not sure where the zillion HD came into the equation?
Yeah, fair enough.
I just read a bit about the reels and I am not the biggest fan of the Tatula platform. Therefor the SV103 and the Zillion HD are in the final round.
What are the pros of the Zillion HD vs the SV103? So far I can see weight and line capacity.
Tim Kelly reply :
Zillion HD is a tatula platform where the zillion sv is a tat ct platform as far as body shape go.
freelancer27 reply :
Tested the reels a bit and I am really impressed with the SV103. Only issue could be line capacity. I bombed a 1oz lipless crank out until there was maybe 5m of line left (50# Berkley Trilene Professional Grade Braid). Which was just for testing purposes.
I have different set ups for for lipless and 'bombing' 
Also I was impressed by the skipping ability. I am a veeery long way from calling my self a decent skipper. But I was able to skip a unconvenient lure quite a bit.
Its a keeper!
Thanks all for your opinions and ***!
DomQ reply :
On 8/14/2017 at 12:14 AM, Finnz922 said:Popping frogs? If that is what you meant, it's just fine. One of my go-to baits is a Spro Poppin' Frog. if you meant a popper like a Pop-R or G-Splash, I don't use braid for those and wouldn't. Not for me. I like mono for that style of baits.
I throw the Spro Jr. Frogs and t-rigs down to 1/8oz Tungsten + hook/plastic, Senko's, and 1/4oz jigs. I have no issues with the reel handling those. Of course your rod plays a big role in casting light baits also. I like an IROD 733, 744, 754, and 764. I only own 1 SV103XS and it is now my favorite reel.
Currently my lineup consists of 1 SV103XS, 5 OG Zillions, 4 Tat CT's, 1 Tat SV, 2 Fuego CT's, and 2 Alphas w/ aftermarket SV spools. I just unloaded 3 Pixies and have owned the Zillion SV, SV105, and OG Steez. The SV103XS is by far my favorite out of all the reels. The Zillion SV was ok, but I'm partial to the OG body style. The SV105 just wasn't my thing, the after market SV spools for the Alphas are much better IMO. As for the Steez, I unloaded it for a mint JDM Zillion. Wish I would have kept the Steez and bought an SV spool for it. Oh well.
Very interested on your thoughts comparing the tatula ct vs fuago ct, If you'd have any input you'd like to share?
Finnz922 reply :
On 8/20/2017 at 6:28 PM, DomQ said:Very interested on your thoughts comparing the tatula ct vs fuago ct, If you'd have any input you'd like to share?
My personal opinion is that there isn't enough difference to me to justify the Tatulas anymore; CT's or Originals. The Fuego is easily as good as a caster. Now if we throw the Tat SV into the mix, that reel is head and shoulders above the CT's; Fuego and Tatula. I'm a Daiwa "Fanboy" and I don't see the T-Wing as being such a big deal good or bad. My preferred reels are still the OG Zillions.
So I guess what I am saying is that for the money and what you get, I would go with the Fuego.
DomQ reply :
On 8/21/2017 at 12:06 AM, Finnz922 said:My personal opinion is that there isn't enough difference to me to justify the Tatulas anymore; CT's or Originals. The Fuego is easily as good as a caster. Now if we throw the Tat SV into the mix, that reel is head and shoulders above the CT's; Fuego and Tatula. I'm a Daiwa "Fanboy" and I don't see the T-Wing as being such a big deal good or bad. My preferred reels are still the OG Zillions.
So I guess what I am saying is that for the money and what you get, I would go with the Fuego.
I really appreciate your reply, its nice having guys who know the equipment well to give their opinions on the gear. Helps me and a lot of other guys here
Finnz922 reply :
On 8/21/2017 at 7:09 AM, DomQ said:I really appreciate your reply, its nice having guys who know the equipment well to give their opinions on the gear. Helps me and a lot of other guys here
No problem
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
On 8/13/2017 at 11:20 PM, MassBassin508 said:Not sure if its SW safe but the Tatula CT is an amazing pitching/frogging reel. The 7.3:1 is what i use.
Would you think that the 7.3:1 would be better than the 8.1:1 cause you can use for more than just topwater?
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