Due to my "broken fin" I will probably need to use the spinning gear for awhile.
There is really only one requirement in spinning line I have at this point.
I HATE THE STINKIN' COILS.
Seriously, I would like recommendations for spinning line in the 6 or 8 lb class that has very little memory. Casting ease is my priority at this time.
thanks
avid.
Yo-zuri Ultra Soft, in either 6 or 8 # test. Can't beat it.
Triple Fish makes some spinning line that is great. It's very soft and has low memory. No matter what you do or what line you get, in time, you will have line twist there is nothing that can be done to prevent it.
I tried the Yo Zuri US in 6lb and hated it.............went back to Trilene XL. XL will do every thing you ask of it, casts and handles better than any line out there.
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4 replies, 4 different answers
I should have been more clear. I'm not speaking of line twist.
I'm takling about how with some lines, even if not overly spooled, when you open the bail, the line sort of comes off like a slinky. I think flourocarbon is the worst offender in this regard, so a very limp line would probably be what I'm looking for.
thanks for the input guys.
I have bad ju ju with spinning gear. First I posted it in the wrong forum so 5BL had to move it. Next I explain my need so poorly that I covered two of the leading problems with line for spinning gear with one inept post.
This not fishing is messing with my head.
Avid,
I load all my spinning gear with Trilene XL. It works great as long as you don't overload the spool. I have tried many other lines but I always end up back with the Trilene XL. It ain't glamorous - It just works.
Tom
Trilene XL in 8 or 10 pound test. I have used 6 # and felt it was a little weak for larger fish and hard hooksets. Strength and abrasion resistance can be a problem, but I never have coils using 10 # or less. I use a Shimano 4000 sized spool and store my gear indoors to help prevent coiling. With heavier baits I have used up to 14 and 17 # XL on spinning gear with very few problems. What size spinning reel do you have?.
Hey Avid,
I fish 30lb Power Pro braid on my Stella 1000 and it behaves beautifully. No coiling at all and much less line twist than mono, at least I don't notice it as much. I think you will like it. JMHE
Ronnie
avid,
If your primary is focus is "no memory" braid will probably be your best choice. If you don't want to fish braid, I am sure you will find the Yo-Zuri Hybrid Utra Soft #6 (11.9 lb test) to be an excellent line for spinning tackle. In use, this line has very little memory and if it is properly spooled, it will not "jump" off your spool. Strong, highly abrasion resistant and user friendly.
Avid,
What can you do with spinning gear that the famous ultralite BC set up won't do? I guess it's your BC casting arm, and you plan to cast a spinning rod with the other?
Avid, I'd use a very light braid. I've used 10 lb PowerPro on spinning tackle for awhile and have no problems whatsoever with it. And of course, there is no memory, period. I like Yo-Zuri hybrid Ultra Soft, also, but it does have a little memory.
Trilene XL gets my vote.....................Al
QuoteAvid,What can you do with spinning gear that the famous ultralite BC set up won't do? I guess it's your BC casting arm, and you plan to cast a spinning rod with the other?
excellent question that deserves an answer due to my frequent tirades re: "the inferior design" of spinning reels.
So here it is. I am at the point in my elbow/shoulder rehab where I have a green light to fish for 30 minutes, from the bank. I can build in 15 minute increments every other day. I was encouraged to use both arms, so as to keep "balance".
Bank fishing with two rods, is too much of a pain. So the solution is to fish with spinning tackle and switch the handle from "righty" to lefty thereby using each arm for casting and cranking. I always fished with four baitcasters, 2 lefties and 2 righties so "changing hands" is a technique I found unnecesssary.
Truth be told. It is easier to cast lighter lures with the spinning rod. I have to keep it light. So all roads lead to spinning gear.
Please forgive me. :-[
What RW said.
Avid,
I can't take credit for this idea but I got it off these boards. It was either Reel Mech or Raul that posted it.
Preface: I stinking hate spinning gear. I have nothing but problems with the exact problem you described and the line twist. I used a majority of the lines suggested with no success. I have sworn several times to never use spinning because of it. Pure frustration!!!
Answer: Spool up your line, take the spool off the reel. Put a rubberband around the line to hold it on the spool. Fill a coffee cup with warmish water and drop the spool into it. Let soak for 5 to 10 minutes. The line will sit absolutely limp on the spool and you are all set.
End result: I still get line twist and stinking hate spinning gear, but this solves your problem specifically addressed in the post.
B
Much easier answer:
Use braid.
Peace,
Fish
Avid, I thought you were an "avid" user of braid. Try it on your spinning reel. Just remember to close the bail by hand, not by cranking. I used to use braid on one of my spinners, and the loops you get when closing the bail by cranking are much worse with braid than with mono.
Having said that, I use Trilene XL on all my spinning reels. I'll try others, and always end up back with the XL. It's pretty hard to beat. Use some Reel Magic on the line before you go out. It helps. best wisshes for a speedy recovery. Do what the doc tells ya.
Good luck,
GK
QuoteAvid,I can't take credit for this idea but I got it off these boards. It was either Reel Mech or Raul that posted it.
Preface: I stinking hate spinning gear. I have nothing but problems with the exact problem you described and the line twist. I used a majority of the lines suggested with no success. I have sworn several times to never use spinning because of it. Pure frustration!!!
Answer: Spool up your line, take the spool off the reel. Put a rubberband around the line to hold it on the spool. Fill a coffee cup with warmish water and drop the spool into it. Let soak for 5 to 10 minutes. The line will sit absolutely limp on the spool and you are all set.
End result: I still get line twist and stinking hate spinning gear, but this solves your problem specifically addressed in the post.
B
that is soooooooooooo cool. Thank you and the person who gave you the info.
I use braid on all my reels, but since I'm required for health reasons to use very light spinning gear I figure I may as well use the opportunity to try and learn "dropshotting" a technique I have never given serious attention to.
So again I need to refine my original post. I have never heard of a successful dropshotter advocating braid. In fact virtually all use some kind of flurocarbon.
Now, because I will not be be dropshotting exclusively the "coil" factor is a major concern.
I wonder if the "Heat treatment" you described would work with F/C due to it not absorbing water> Or if, like my sore muscles it's the heat that relaxes the tension.
Interesting. Would love to hear more about this.
My goal for this line is for it to cast smoothly with very light baits. 1/4 oz. max.
but also to be a strong low vis 6# line reasonably well suited for dropshotting.
Thanks to all and truly hope to hear more.
I just want to re-visit the post by flechero who politely commented about my boastful rants regarding spinning gear.
I'm sure other members of the "broken fin fishing fools" (see sticky in everything else forum) will agree that many of the beliefs we passionately believed and obstinately rallied for when young or strong, pale into meaningless insignificance when ones health is at issue.
I am a bass fisherman - It's what I do. In some significant ways, it defines who I am.
If I have to use spinning gear, so be it.
If I have to use a cane pole - then that's ok too.
If I can't fish at all but have a grand child or willing partner who will wheel me to the edge of the lake and put a rod in my hand, then I will be truly blessed.
"One more cast"
avid
I used this on Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft and P Line fluoro so the answer should be YES!!
B
Use braid.
i agree with fish chris braid fireline
Just use Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft and be done with it.
Yozuri Ultra Soft in 8 lb test. I also spray Reel Magic or KVDs spray on all my spooled line.
I used Trilene XL earlier this year and hated it. I'm going back to Yo-Zuri.
I've tried a lot of lines on spinning gear and always gone back to Stren original. It just seems to work for me. I use Trilene XL on most of my bait casters. I use braid on my jig rod and florocarbon on my Senko rod.
20lb power pro
PowerPro Braid (20 to 50-lb)
BTW:
8-lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is 0.011" in diameter,
30-lb PowerPro Braid is 0.011" in diameter
Roger
Avid, I like your last few lines.... think I'm going to copy them 8-)
Doug
Deiswerth - thanks. sometimes I get a little melodramatic, but the sentiment is honest.
I bought p-line cxx 6lb. I looked for yo-zuri hybrid ultra soft and could not find it locally. Can't wait for a mail order. Have heard good things about the p-line so am excited about #1 - Being able to start fishing again even if in a highly limited way
and #2 - Using a category of line I never tried before (copolymer)
Braid is the most limp, and I use it all the time, but as I stated in an earlier post, I am going to take the "lemon" of being orderd to fish for breif periods with light gear, and turn it into the "lemonaide" of learning how to dropshot"
Wish me luck guys, and thanks for all the input
avid
Good luck, Avid. Get that wing to work one cast at a time, and let us know how you like the rig/line.
Avid stated:
QuoteI am a bass fisherman - It's what I do. In some significant ways, it defines who I am.If I have to use spinning gear, so be it.
If I have to use a cane pole - then that's ok too.
If I can't fish at all but have a grand child or willing partner who will wheel me to the edge of the lake and put a rod in my hand, then I will be truly blessed.
"One more cast"
avid
I like your attitude, avid. Hang in there, Good Buddy.
I feel the same, but I'm not going through the tribulations that you are. I still have good limbs, but I agree with your ideas. To sum it up:
I fish . . . . . and then I die. There is no intermediate period between the two.
Avid,i've found that strens magnathin works well on spinning reels but this year i started using
maxima perfection that claims to be made for spinning reels and that stuff is strong and has
better handling than the magnathin!
Avid, years ago I read Kevin VanDam's first book, "Bass Strategies". At the time I found it an excellent read and would recommend it to anyone. In the book he praised using silicone spray on freshly spooled reels(spinning and casting) to aid in line management. I have used this technique now for a long time and I've been very impressed with how manageable the line becomes when treated with silicone. It's very good with casting reels but absolutely super on spinning. Anyway..monofilament is all I ever use and the silicone will make any brand I've ever used perform very well. I even like to overspool my spinning reels and once the silicone is applied, the line will not jump off the spool upon opening the bail.
Have you considered using a braided line with a fluoro leader for dropshotting? I use 20 lb powerpro with a 6 or 8 lb silver thread flourocarbon leader. I'm not a drop-shot expert but it works for me...
The drop-shot rig is notorious for line twist, but a braided mainline solves the problem.
Just a thought...
ps. get well soon
I use McCoy's Flo Blue for mono and Cabela's Ripcord Si Plus for braid I have had very good preformance out of both these lines.
Chow
I was in a local tackle shop yesterday that is owned by one of the most knowledgable fishermen I know. He swears that Suffix is the best mono for Spinning reels. I bought a spool to try it out. I will let you know how it is after I use it this weekend.
QuoteI was in a local tackle shop yesterday that is owned by one of the most knowledgable fishermen I know. He swears that Suffix is the best mono for Spinning reels. I bought a spool to try it out. I will let you know how it is after I use it this weekend.
Sufix makes terrific fishing line and I recently tried Sufix Siege on my spinning gear.
It boasts every asset you could ask of a line except one, it has "too much memory", a Big No-No for the spinning angler.
Braid has zero memory and causes zero problems. Any problems I might have with braid are caused by me, not the line.
And yes, I can get into trouble with any line
Roger