If money was no object.... 2024
Fishin' Fool reply :
If money was no object and you wanted to buy a rod strictly for the sake of owing one which one would it be. Myself I'm kinda curious to see what all the fuss is over these Megabass rods. I haven't done enough research to know all the different models but I would even take an Orochi XX to give it a try.
I see DSG has them on their website. Does anyone know if they usually keep a good inventory in the stores?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I did a recent minor repair on an orochi. Nice Rod. The blank looked like Phoenix blanks I've built on but have no way to confirm. Not to sound self serving, but why would any one pick any over the counter Rod as their dream Rod instead of a full on custom?
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 2/13/2016 at 11:59 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I did a recent minor repair on an orochi. Nice Rod. The blank looked like Phoenix blanks I've built on but have no way to confirm. Not to sound self serving, but why would any one pick any over the counter Rod as their dream Rod instead of a full on custom?
Good point. I've been a serious bass fisherman for 3 decades but have never built a custom rod yet. Still got some learning to do.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Don't let the marketers fool you. Custom builders can access components every bit as good or better than any production Rod uses. If so inclined, building one yourself adds a level of satisfaction. If you don't want to invest the time and deal with the learning curve, you can always commission one.
kickerfish1 reply :
Unless it was a limited production run of a MB or Evergreen rod I would have a custom built. You can buy all the neat looking rod components through Matagi and get your blank and guides from a US supplier. Some of the lure of JDM rods are the unique components used like the Slant Bridge handle and unique reel seats. They just have a different look to them that you really don't see with rods in the US market.
John G reply :
I already have it but not for the sake of owning it. I did not pay full price but I would. I might fight the purchase a little bit internally but I would have paid full price for a new one.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 4:31 AM, John G said:I already have it but not for the sake of owning it. I did not pay full price but I would. I might fight the purchase a little bit internally but I would have paid full price for a new one.
Is that the Orochi XX? What model do you own? Sales clearly drive my spending. I don't think I'll buy another rod at full price.
IAY reply :
Shimano x Jackall Poison Ultima 162ML
blckshirt98 reply :
If money was no object I'd go all Phenix. People can say what they want about it not being made in the USA, but every Phenix rod I've ever fished has been freaking awesome. If I ever get a custom rod made I'd ask for a Phenix blank for that as well.
MIbassangler30 reply :
Megabass Arms Paraizo
John G reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 6:19 AM, Fishin' Fool said:Is that the Orochi XX? What model do you own? Sales clearly drive my spending. I don't think I'll buy another rod at full price.
Shimano Poison Ultima 162L-S
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 7:29 AM, John G said:Shimano Poison Ultima 162L-S
Man you all got too much money to spend. I have horrible internal conflict about spending $300 for a GLX which is a heck of a deal 
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 7:39 AM, Fishin' Fool said:Man you all got too much money to spend. I have horrible internal conflict about spending $300 for a GLX which is a heck of a deal
Still over priced compared to what you can get in a custom of the same price.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 8:04 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Still over priced compared to what you can get in a custom of the same price.
I don't even know where to start with custom builds. I guess I need to follow the custom forum for a while. This question is probably opinion based but who are the best custom rod builders?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Like anything else there are pros and hacks. I like to consider myself in the former group along with Scott Hovanec, Fishin Daddy and others that post here and on other Rod building sites. Ask questions and vette any potential builders you consider. Email me some details what you're looking for and we can talk on the phone if you'd like.
Fishin' Fool reply :
Thanks. I'm not quite there yet but definitely something to aspire to in the future
Darren. reply :
$$ no object, I'd like to try the St. Croix Legend Elite rods.
I've been so impressed by my Legend Tourney Walleye
spinning rod, and I got that on an upgrade from an Avid.
Unbelievable difference to my hands.
blckshirt98 reply :
Custom builds are very subjective to "the best" - as far as I know custom builders aren't making their own blanks, they're using readily made blanks like Rainshadow and Phenix blanks, and buying reel seats and guides out of a catalog. Apart from being able to get a rod to your exactl specifications in terms of length/action/components, the custom guys really set themselves apart in the detail work. If you're looking for a specific color scheme, wrap pattern, or personalization, some of those guys produce absolute works of art that you'll never get in a mass production rod.
EvanT123 reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 10:45 AM, blckshirt98 said:Custom builds are very subjective to "the best" - as far as I know custom builders aren't making their own blanks, they're using readily made blanks like Rainshadow and Phenix blanks, and buying reel seats and guides out of a catalog. Apart from being able to get a rod to your exactl specifications in terms of length/action/components, the custom guys really set themselves apart in the detail work. If you're looking for a specific color scheme, wrap pattern, or personalization, some of those guys produce absolute works of art that you'll never get in a mass production rod.
Hate to derail the thread but you bring up a good point. I just counted 42 some odd separate rod companies on TW. How many of them are rolling their own blanks? I have no idea but I doubt all of them. Which leads to the question what are you really getting when you purchase a rod? With a lot of these companies probably nothing more than a decal.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 10:50 AM, EvanT123 said:Hate to derail the thread but you bring up a good point. I just counted 42 some odd separate rod companies on TW. How many of them are rolling their own blanks? I have no idea but I doubt all of them. Which leads to the question what are you really getting when you purchase a rod? With a lot of these companies probably nothing more than a decal.
That's right. I'm not aware of any over the counter Rod that can not be matched or beaten performance wise by readily available components in a custom build.
WI_Angler1989 reply :
I love St Croix rods. So I would wanna try a new Legend Elite spinning rod.
ww2farmer reply :
Take it from someone who joined the ranks of custom rod users last season...........there is nothing that will do now. All my rods will be custom built as $$ allows.
Maico1 reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 11:09 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:That's right. I'm not aware of any over the counter Rod that can not be matched or beaten performance wise by readily available components in a custom build.
Just for the sake of discussion how much would it cost to build me a NRX JWR 802C using the same components that Loomis does? Since I know what I pay for one after reading your posts I would expect it to be less. Really looking for a base line to compare the difference in price.
smalljaw67 reply :
I own 2 customs and with todays technology if money was no object it would be a custom unlike any other. It would be St. Croix Legend Extreme 7'1" MH-XF blank, it would have split grip with custom Kevlar grips and a Fuji SK2 reel seat and a then finished with a full set of Fuji Titanium Torzite guides. It is a very low key build and has been on my mind for awhile, the blank is $205 but then the custom Kevlar grips are going to really hurt. I've been quoted a few prices but this rod with no bling is going to cost between $900 - $1100. The difference in price depends if the builder can make the grips of they have to be specially ordered and if that is the case it could cast as much as $200 just for the grips.
Master Bait'r reply :
On 2/13/2016 at 11:59 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I did a recent minor repair on an orochi. Nice Rod. The blank looked like Phoenix blanks I've built on but have no way to confirm. Not to sound self serving, but why would any one pick any over the counter Rod as their dream Rod instead of a full on custom?
MB's Arms and Superleggera lines come to mind.
Not it that the components' functions couldn't be matched by other means, they're just so d**n sexy in a Bugatti Veyron sort of way.
My my dream rod is the one with a 25# LMB on the end of it though 
I do own an NRX and a Phase 3 Destroyer, but if I ever bite the bullet on a swimbait rod I would really like to go custom.
WI_Angler1989 reply :
Well, aside from a factory St Croix rod, a custom rod on a 2016 Legend Elite blank is my choice.
I'd like to try their new rod specific guides with a new ceramic insert to go with lighter frames.
Also I'd want to have the highest quality reel seat and cork, set up just like the LTB spinning series. They just feel good in hand to me and I LOVE split grip, bare blank rods. Having my hand or a couple fingers right on the blank is awesome.
That's my dream rod, and it'll be just that for a looong time, a dream haha.
John G reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 7:39 AM, Fishin' Fool said:Man you all got too much money to spend. I have horrible internal conflict about spending $300 for a GLX which is a heck of a deal
You can find great deals on used in excellent condition GLX's. Are we talking about the newer green GLX's or the MBR's? The MBR's in general are extremely nice rods with actions that excel at many techniques than for what they were designed. One of my favorite all time rods is the Loomis MBR782GLX. I regret that I sold mine but I will get another someday. The rod that I posted a pic of us a $600 dollar rod. Add in shipping and customs fees and you are over $650. I'm at the point now where I want style as well as performance and I'm willing to pay for it.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 11:12 PM, John G said:You can find great deals on used in excellent condition GLX's. Are we talking about the newer green GLX's or the MBR's? The MBR's in general are extremely nice rods with actions that excel at many techniques than for what they were designed. One of my favorite all time rods is the Loomis MBR782GLX. I regret that I sold mine but I will get another someday. The rod that I posted a pic of us a $600 dollar rod. Add in shipping and customs fees and you are over $650. I'm at the point now where I want style as well as performance and I'm willing to pay for it.
That was for a new GLX on Monster Fishing Tackle website. It was like $108 off the regular price and you can sign up for their mailing list and get $25 more off. No shipping fees or tax. I think that is what made the deal for me.
Cgrinder reply :
Megabass rods have this snake oil "it" factor mystique whatever that draws people (me!) in. I like them and I like the "community".
Custom is almost always the most efficient way to go. Mike @ DVT built a very nice rod for my girlfriend last year. It was very reasonable and would have been more reasonable if my girlfriend did not insist on this god awful sky camo EVA foam grip. 
MIbassangler30 reply :
I certainly get what everyone is saying about custom builds, but when someone asks "if money was no object" then my mind goes way outside the box. Probably going to seek out Yuki Ito to build a custom masterpiece. Like commissioning Michelangelo or Miyamoto Musashi in the fishing rod world. Then I would have a few Arms Complete and Superleggeras as backups. Many great 'Joe Blow' builders creating works of art in their basements I'm sure, but if we're going to full on fantasy land, then that's what I got.
JC
PitchinJigz reply :
On 2/13/2016 at 11:59 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I did a recent minor repair on an orochi. Nice Rod. The blank looked like Phoenix blanks I've built on but have no way to confirm. Not to sound self serving, but why would any one pick any over the counter Rod as their dream Rod instead of a full on custom?
Because Megabass is life. 
I'd get a Megabass Destroyer Kirisame.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 2/14/2016 at 9:26 PM, Maico1 said:Just for the sake of discussion how much would it cost to build me a NRX JWR 802C using the same components that Loomis does? Since I know what I pay for one after reading your posts I would expect it to be less. Really looking for a base line to compare the difference in price.
The point of that post was that factories aren't working with super secret parts you can't match quality wise. I'm not saying to go custom based on price alone. I did a build like you mention for RW with more expensive guides and seat for well <$500
roadwarrior reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 4:53 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:The point of that post was that factories aren't working with super secret parts you can't match quality wise. I'm not saying to go custom based on price alone. I did a build like you mention for RW with more expensive guides and seat for well <$500
And I have the PERFECT Senko rod!
Fishin' Fool reply :
Do the warranties of a high end custom builds correspond to those of high end rod manufacturers?
kickerfish1 reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 5:36 AM, Fishin' Fool said:Do the warranties of a high end custom builds correspond to those of high end rod manufacturers?
Not at all. Your warranty will be whatever you and builder decide on. If something fails some will replace a guide or such for parts cost of maybe on their dime if it was their mistake. If the blank is broken I am sure most will tell you you're out of luck. It would cost them whatever your material and shipping cost was to get it made again and back to you. Maybe he will build it again without charging labor the 2nd time but that will highly be unlikely. If you get one fish it but treat it like your baby.
So for a custom rod consider:
1. Parts cost for the blank, guides, components, and materials.
2. Shipping cost
3. Labor cost
You would be hard pressed to get a decent custom build done for under $150 with labor and shipping. If you drop $300 plus you will get a very high performance rod especially for feel apps.
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 5:36 AM, Fishin' Fool said:Do the warranties of a high end custom builds correspond to those of high end rod manufacturers?
The blank warranty is the same on a custom rod as a factory rod regarding defects. The labor charges for the new build would be up to the builder. Most quality builders stress test the blank before building to make sure the blank is good.
EllisJuan reply :
Something comforting about the way accidental damage is handled by St. Croix and G. Loomis. Knowing that if I shut a $400 rod in the car door the most it will ever cost me to have it replaced is $100 helps me justify the expense.
WI_Angler1989 reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 9:39 AM, EllisJuan said:Something comforting about the way accidental damage is handled by St. Croix and G. Loomis. Knowing that if I shut a $400 rod in the car door the most it will ever cost me to have it replaced is $100 helps me justify the expense.
Where I buy my St Croix rods, Scheels, if you damage it at all they send it and cover all costs. A snapped rod is free to replace.
WI_Angler1989 reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 5:15 AM, roadwarrior said:And I have the PERFECT Senko rod!
Very nice! What are the rod's specs?
Burtonxj reply :
I really want a G. Loomis Bronzeback
Or a custom smallie spinning rod.
EllisJuan reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 9:48 AM, WI_Angler1989 said:Where I buy my St Croix rods, Scheels, if you damage it at all they send it and cover all costs. A snapped rod is free to replace.
Yep. American Legacy handles G Loomis the same way.
WI_Angler1989 reply :
On 2/15/2016 at 10:24 AM, EllisJuan said:Yep. American Legacy handles G Loomis the same way.
It's really nice, isn't it? I had a couple guides that were cracked on an Avid, brought it in and they sent it to St Croix and got it fixed. It was nice since it wasn't huge damage, but still a problem.
Jaderose reply :
Money were NO object at all? None of my rods would have a manufacturers name on them. They would have a builder's name on them. and they would be beautiful and feel like not only an extension of my hand but an extension of my central nervous system. I couldn't care less about "brand". I want the equipment that is right FOR ME. and they would be beautiful, too.
Verisimilidude reply :
One of the St. Croix reps was in my local BPS and let me hold his personal Legend Elite.
I should have never picked it up.
Definitely my number one choice right now.
KP Duty reply :
MB ARMS Super Legera. I plan on picking up the steez ags 7'6"H when the funds allow , and it seems like a bargain compared to the Leggera.
Mosster47 reply :
It's not and I went with a bunch of different rod companies. My favorite overall has to be Phenix UMBX. I have four of them ranging from heavy swimbait to dropshot and they are fantastic.
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