New shimano woes... question 2024
Beetlebz reply :
So I have spent the last few weeks replacing all my garcias and kastkings with shimanos. Why? I suppose that's a topic for another post...
I got my new citica I spooled up this morning and hit the reservoir to go play. When I got there the side plate on the citica was open. I was pretty sure I latched it, but who knows. A quick check to make sure it's locked down fully and away I went. On cast 5, and of course in mid cast, the side plate popped open and the spool partially shifted out to the left. The brake shoes got ripped completely off and wound up in the drink, and the crown that the shoes attached to shattered and half of that is in the water too. I shipped it out to shimano for repair (hopefully replacement) this afternoon. (Also the line got wrapped around the spool shaft and made quite the mess)
My question is this... that little slider is awfully close to my hand while casting... is it possible it's my hand hitting the little latch or is this a thing that's happened before? I can remediate myself if I need to, I don't want any more plastic shrapnel spewing into the water while I'm trying to fish.
puddlepuncher reply :
I've done this with a Curado I which is the same frame as the Citica, so yes it is possible in fact I'd say that's exactly what you did. It's my main complaint about these 2 reels as well as the Metanium, all of them have the same release latch design. Just change a bit how you cast and it shouldn't be a problem. I'm surprised you didn't get a blister from it, I know I did.
Beetlebz reply :
On 4/21/2018 at 1:08 PM, Maverick said:I've done this with a Curado I which is the same frame as the Citica, so yes it is possible in fact I'd say that's exactly what you did. It's my main complaint about these 2 reels as well as the Metanium, all of them have the same release latch design. Just change a bit how you cast and it shouldn't be a problem. I'm surprised you didn't get a blister from it, I know I did.
You know, right after I ordered my citica they had a sale on the curado k. I almost cancelled my order... Oh well. The only reason I was curious is because I was so sure it was locked down when I left the house and it opened up in transit before I got to the lake 10 minutes away. Hopefully shimano covers it under warranty, worst case I'll sell it and pick up a curado k. These sausage fingers cause all kinds of havoc.
BaitFinesse reply :
I don't understand. Are we casting while trying to palm the reel?
puddlepuncher reply :
The Curado K has similar placement. The Chronarch has a release latch towards the front. I feel you though it wasn't a pleasant feeling when I did it and the sound was even less pleasant. If it makes you feel any better the same is possible with the metanium, and the side latch on it is not fixed like your reel. So at least you didn't lose the side plate. lol.
On 4/21/2018 at 2:54 PM, BaitFinesse said:I don't understand. Are we casting while trying to palm the reel?
I did it throwing a large whopper plopper and my hand must have shifted. Learned very quickly. Funny thing is before I bought the curado a few years ago I read reviews for it and one of them complained about the same thing. I thought that moron needs to learn how to cast, then a month later I did it.
Beetlebz reply :
On 4/21/2018 at 2:54 PM, BaitFinesse said:I don't understand. Are we casting while trying to palm the reel?
Naw, I cast with my left and reel with my right. Essentially I'm casting left handed with a right handed reel. Us leftys are odd. When I cast my index finger is right along the little slide latch.
If I can't figure this out I might just switch everything over to the casitas. I have one and the side plate isn't an issue... I wouldn't be heart broken buying a few more 
fishnkamp reply :
Save the aggravation if it continues. Go to a Daiwa Tatula and forget ever opening that stupid side plate completely.
I used t fish with some of the old and beloved green Curados and several E series Chronarchs. A friend lent me a rod to play with one day and it had a Daiwa Exceler on. Since then IO have sold off all my Shimanos and have a bunch of Tatula Type Rs, Tatula CTs and one Exceler. I have never regretted that decision once. You will need to properly adjust a Tatula or Fuego because they run very different to any other reel, but once set up correctly they are a joy to fish with.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/21/2018 at 7:11 PM, Beetlebz said:Naw, I cast with my left and reel with my right. Essentially I'm casting left handed with a right handed reel. Us leftys are odd. When I cast my index finger is right along the little slide latch.
If I can't figure this out I might just switch everything over to the casitas. I have one and the side plate isn't an issue... I wouldn't be heart broken buying a few more
I cast left, own a Curado I, Metanium, Chronarch, my fingers are all tucked under the handle on the cast. I guess I can see how that can happen.
On 4/21/2018 at 8:28 PM, fishnkamp said:Save the aggravation if it continues. Go to a Daiwa Tatula and forget ever opening that stupid side plate completely.
I used t fish with some of the old and beloved green Curados and several E series Chronarchs. A friend lent me a rod to play with one day and it had a Daiwa Exceler on. Since then IO have sold off all my Shimanos and have a bunch of Tatula Type Rs, Tatula CTs and one Exceler. I have never regretted that decision once. You will need to properly adjust a Tatula or Fuego because they run very different to any other reel, but once set up correctly they are a joy to fish with.
I feel like you have your postcopied and ready to paste. ????
fishnkamp reply :
No I have no prepared answer, I did have those Shimano reels and liked them for years. The green Curados were good reels. I never felt comfortable having to open a reel to change brake settings while fishing on my home waters.
I fish on the Chesapeake Bay tidal waters, which include the Potomac River, the Susquehanna River and Flats and places like Middle River (where Aaron Marten won his Elite victory several years ago) and others. These water have currents, wind and rough water often. During vacations I get to go and fish places like Dale Hollow Lake, Center Hill Lake, Lake Gaston, Lake Erie, Lake Anna, etc. On some of those places the water conditions are much easier to handle a reel like those Shimanos. It is just that I have seen this complaint on the new Shimanos frequently recently.
Having a reel that performs very well and has a set and forget brake system is a plus for me. By the end of this summer I hope to replace the remainder of my 12 baitcasters with Tatula CT reels. I still have to stay in the household budget, so I have to replace them one at a time.
lmbfisherman reply :
Shimano reels with VBS arguably was the best at set and forget. I can’t ever remember setting brakes back then And now on the water. I agree that the newer brake systems Shimano you had to “dial in”. However it is nearly set and forget still, you can fine tune the brakes now without opening the reel. So I don’t see how the set and forget was really lost on the new Shimano systems. Maybe I’m fishing them wrong? I actually like that I can fully detach a side plate, of course their are advantages and disadvantages. I just find it easier to tear down and clean.
Beetlebz reply :
Honestly the brakes are the reason I decided to switch to shimano after I bought my first casitas. Those SVS brakes are nearly idiot proof once you're in the right ballpark with only enough spool tension go minimize movement. I can pitch a country mile, then without touching a thing bomb a crank bait out of sight. Having only mag brakes means you still need some spool tension (or a pro thumb which I lack) to keep the spool docile. My casitas is spooled with mono and it's my topwater reel, finesse bottom contact (t-rigs and finesse jigs), chatterbait reel and swimbait reel. I can bomb a belly weighted swim bait out of sight and then without touching the brakes throw a bulky chatterbait or c-rig just as far. It will be hard for me to concede that regular mag brakes work just as well but perhaps I'd be doing myself a favor to find out. Diawa reels are always coming up in eBay sales.
OnthePotomac reply :
I have read of others having a problem with the Shimano side cover slide lock but I have not experienced this on my several reels with the same sliding lock. What I have experienced is making sure it is really locked with a final hard push with my thumb nail. The little slide locks can be deceiving.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 4/21/2018 at 2:54 PM, BaitFinesse said:I don't understand. Are we casting while trying to palm the reel?
I guess.
I do have only one lefty where I have to palm when cast but so far no incidents just yet.
totally agree with @lmbfisherman I have both shimano and daiwa, the only time I have to change brake setting on shimano is when casting very light lure (1/8 oz) otherwise set it and forget it both old VBS and new SVS system.
With daiwa of course it easy to change setting on the fly but to open and maintenance kind of pain, i have pin remover but yet to flush any bearing on my daiwa reel.
Hulkster reply :
i don't own a curado K but I do own a curado 200i and when the side plate latches properly there is an audible 'click' when you slide the switch to close it.
does yours make this sound?
BaitFinesse reply :
On 4/21/2018 at 7:11 PM, Beetlebz said:Naw, I cast with my left and reel with my right. Essentially I'm casting left handed with a right handed reel. Us leftys are odd. When I cast my index finger is right along the little slide latch.
If I can't figure this out I might just switch everything over to the casitas. I have one and the side plate isn't an issue... I wouldn't be heart broken buying a few more
Try moving your hand off the reel, onto the rod grip and placing your index finger behind the rod' s trigger when casting. Also the Daiwa reels with Magforce Z or Air Brake are not standard mag reels. There is a centrifugal componets to the mag braking. They're actually more easy to dial in and set and forget than a Shimano SVS.
Beetlebz reply :
To be clear, I cast with my left hand but I cast from the grip with my index finger on the trigger. The difference is when I do this with my left hand, my left index finger rides right along that latch, or very close to it. I honestly didn't notice if the latch clicks or not. If shimano repairs the reel instead of replacing the reel I will give that a try.
It pains me but I think I've decided to cut my losses and try a diawa tatula SV TW and sell the citica. maybe get another casitas shortly for my flipping rod. I'm still up in the air.. I don't know if I'll trust myself not to hit that latch by accident.
burrows reply :
This kind of stuff happens doesn’t matter what reel you have factory defects happen during mass production you should be happy with it when it comes back from repair. I did one time get a factory defect on a chronarch mgl the external brake didn’t click not a big deal but I got it exchanged.
optimator reply :
@Burros is right. I had a Tatula SV. It isn't half the reel the Shimano is.
Beetlebz reply :
Well, I'm a weak, weak man. So a little update, I found the SV TW 103HS on the eBay deals section. Needless to say I bought it. And because I'm a terrible person and (apparently) lied to the wife, I'm going to try making the citica work when it comes back. Why not both i suppose. I'm a bad person. But I'm a bad person with a citica and a TW SV 103HS coming my way.
Graham reply :
On 4/22/2018 at 2:59 AM, lmbfisherman said:However it is nearly set and forget still, you can fine tune the brakes now without opening the reel. So I don’t see how the set and forget was really lost on the new Shimano systems.
Dialed in my chronarch ci4 and curado i once out of the box and haven’t touched the internal brakes since. I can throw 1/8th oz baits up to an ounce without changing anything. They are set and forget for me...unless we are both fishing them wrong ????!
redux reply :
Talking to a guy at Bitter's and he mentioned some people having an issue with getting the K's side plate to relock. He figured out it was due to the spool tension knob being tightened down a bit much which puts lateral pressure on the spool and pushes it towards the plate enough to keep it from relocking. Could that be part of the issue for the OP?
P.S. I broke down and got a second K yesterday for a Loomis GL2 6'6" Heavy...oh man...sooooooo nice.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/22/2018 at 10:52 AM, Beetlebz said:Well, I'm a weak, weak man. So a little update, I found the SV TW 103HS on the eBay deals section. Needless to say I bought it. And because I'm a terrible person and (apparently) lied to the wife, I'm going to try making the citica work when it comes back. Why not both i suppose. I'm a bad person. But I'm a bad person with a citica and a TW SV 103HS coming my way.
We are all weak....the monkey is always making you do things.
Beetlebz reply :
I suppose, I do run just enough tension to remove side play in the spool. I'm excited to try the daiwa though. I'm ordering another casitas or if the SV works out, a daiwa tatula 150 for my flipping/pitching/swimbait rig so it'll be a non-issue either way lol
To be honest I'll probably unload the citica when it comes back, I'd rather get value out of it rather than trying to modify it or worse, destroy it again trying to make it work. A buddy of mine talked me out of it this morning. There's a ton of fish in the sea, so to speak. I'm not sure I see a point in being brand loyal anymore.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 4/23/2018 at 12:13 AM, Beetlebz said:I suppose, I do run just enough tension to remove side play in the spool. I'm excited to try the daiwa though. I'm ordering another casitas or if the SV works out, a daiwa tatula 150 for my flipping/pitching/swimbait rig so it'll be a non-issue either way lol
To be honest I'll probably unload the citica when it comes back, I'd rather get value out of it rather than trying to modify it or worse, destroy it again trying to make it work. A buddy of mine talked me out of it this morning. There's a ton of fish in the sea, so to speak. I'm not sure I see a point in being brand loyal anymore.
I'd stay away from the Tatula is 150. It's the older Tatula big frame and the hear set in the 150 makes the reel geary. You'd be better suited with a regular Tatula CT or Curado K.
Beetlebz reply :
On 4/23/2018 at 1:38 AM, BaitFinesse said:I'd stay away from the Tatula is 150. It's the older Tatula big frame and the hear set in the 150 makes the reel geary. You'd be better suited with a regular Tatula CT or Curado K.
Good thing I mentioned it then, thanks! Honestly if I go to 40lb braid instead of 65 I doubt I could spool myself throwing a 2oz swimbait on a regular tatula... but I digress I'm getting off topic.
I figure if I wait the tacklebug out this time it won't be long before I get a chronarch anyway 
... but I think I'm going to stay away from the curado k and citica I frame. Even if it was a bad latch and not me doing it, I'll always wonder. At least this way I cant spontaneously disassemble the reel and detonate the spool mid-cast with an audience lol
Beetlebz reply :
Shimano called me today, twice. They tried and tried and can't get the latch to fail. I guess it was just me after all. It got a new spool and should be on it's way back today. Well, nuts. I might as well hang on to it in case my new tatula needs to go back.
burrows reply :
On 4/28/2018 at 10:00 AM, Beetlebz said:Shimano called me today, twice. They tried and tried and can't get the latch to fail. I guess it was just me after all. It got a new spool and should be on it's way back today. Well, nuts. I might as well hang on to it in case my new tatula needs to go back.
You should hang on to it so you can use it !
hawgwash reply :
On 4/22/2018 at 6:07 PM, redux said:I broke down and got a second K yesterday for a Loomis GL2 6'6" Heavy...oh man...sooooooo nice.
So what is a 'K' ?
redux reply :
Shimano Curado K - http://fish.shimano.com/content/fish/northamerica/us/en/homepage/Shimano_Product_Page.P-CURADO_K.html
HogsNHawgs reply :
On 4/21/2018 at 7:11 PM, Beetlebz said:Naw, I cast with my left and reel with my right. Essentially I'm casting left handed with a right handed reel. Us leftys are odd. When I cast my index finger is right along the little slide latch.
If I can't figure this out I might just switch everything over to the casitas. I have one and the side plate isn't an issue... I wouldn't be heart broken buying a few more
I'm an odd lefty too.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 12:10 AM, HogsNHawgs said:
I'm an odd lefty too.
What's odd about being left handed and casting with your left arm on a right-hand retrieve reel? Your left hand will be the one messing with the rod to utilize your lure's action, it will be your left thumb controlling the spool and one of your fingers touching the line to detect bites.
When it comes to dexterity, your left hand will have to do a lot more than your right with a right-hand retrieve reel. It's the righties using right-hand retrieve reels, casting with their right, who are odd.
Fishingmickey reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 12:10 AM, HogsNHawgs said:
I'm an odd lefty too.
I also fall into that odd lefty category. Cast with my left, reel with my right. I like it. No switching hands involved.
FM
On 4/21/2018 at 7:11 PM, Beetlebz said:
If I can't figure this out I might just switch everything over to the casitas. I have one and the side plate isn't an issue... I wouldn't be heart broken buying a few more
Did you see that Academy had the Casitas on sale for $69? I suspect Father's day sale. Might still be good today.
Beetlebz reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 1:10 AM, Fishingmickey said:I also fall into that odd lefty category. Cast with my left, reel with my right. I like it. No switching hands involved.
FM
Did you see that Academy had the Casitas on sale for $69? I suspect Father's day sale. Might still be good today.
I still palm the reel with my left too, but it's not that awkward. To be honest after this thread a fellow forum member made me an offer on my casitas. I sold it off, replaced it with my tatula SV and I couldn't be happier. I used the money to buy another new tatula.... my collection only has one shimano left ????
Chance_Taker4 reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 1:21 AM, Beetlebz said:I still palm the reel with my left too, but it's not that awkward. To be honest after this thread a fellow forum member made me an offer on my casitas. I sold it off, replaced it with my tatula SV and I couldn't be happier. I used the money to buy another new tatula.... my collection only has one shimano left ????
You made the best choice. I had split loyalties to Abu and the name that should not be spoken. I tried and Shimano Curado I and it strengthen my loyalties to them. However @fishnkamp posts about Daiwa made me give them a whirl and now most of my reels are Tatulas (Type R, CT, SV, 150 (I like how big it is because I have giant hands)). I have a couple gen 4 Revos and 3 1 and 3 Zs but my Tatulas are my work horses.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 1:10 AM, Fishingmickey said:Did you see that Academy had the Casitas on sale for $69? I suspect Father's day sale. Might still be good today.
Both Academy and Amazon have it on sale for that price. It's weird too because it was on sale at both places for the same price a week and a half ago, then it was regular price, and now it's back on sale again. It makes me wonder if they know something I don't about what's going to happen at ICAST.
$69 is the cheapest it's ever been on Amazon since it was released, and the first time it hit that was earlier this month during the first sale.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 12:43 AM, MisterDeadeye said:What's odd about being left handed and casting with your left arm on a right-hand retrieve reel? Your left hand will be the one messing with the rod to utilize your lure's action, it will be your left thumb controlling the spool and one of your fingers touching the line to detect bites.
When it comes to dexterity, your left hand will have to do a lot more than your right with a right-hand retrieve reel. It's the righties using right-hand retrieve reels, casting with their right, who are odd.
When it comes to dexterity the turning of the handle on a baitcast reel is the most strenuous task. It takes a lot to make continuous and rapid small circles with the hand while grasping with the index and thumb. This is why it is common see reels with the handle on the right as most people are right hand dominate.
For those who have the dexterity to use either left or right retrieve the prefference largely boils down to nationality. In other words USA vs Everyone else. In the US it is preferable to both cast and retrieve baitcast reels with your dominate hand to make use of the dexterity in that hand to perform both tasks. US anglers commonly grab the rod handle when casting and place the index finger behind the rod's trigger making for no difference in time spent between switching hands to cast right and palm left vs casting right and palming right. Both need to move their hands from casting position to the palming position.
Outside of the US it is common to reel with your non dominate hand. It is also common to cast while palming the reel by having 2 fingers in front of the rod's trigger when casting. Doing this places the reels handle close to the knuckles and can make it difficult to cast right handed with a right hand retrieve reel so left is commonly prefered. Reels with handles on the non dominate side allow you to cast with your dominate hand while palming the reel without smacking into the reels drag star or handle and allow you to quickly transition from casting to palming because you cast with the same fingers In front of the rod trigger as you do when palming the reel.
I would argue that the US way of doing it is superior as it allows you to use the dominate hand with the greatest dexterity to perform the two most strenuous tasks but the rest of the world must be on to something I also see no merit in casting with any more than one finger in front of the rods trigger. Yes you can transition from casting to palming slightly more quickly but the palming of the reel when casting creates an additional set problems such as the opening of the side plate when casting as we see in this thread. I also don't believe that it is advantageous to hold the rod with your dominate hand when palming the reel. You are grasping the rod in an non dominate underhand cupping motion with your hand wrapped around the reel. If you were to grab the rod blank in a overhand dominate grip with the reel suspended below such as on a spinning rod then the use of a left hand spinning reel makes sense. The suspension of a spinning reel below the rod also make it easier to turn the reels handle with your non dominate hand by rotating at the elbow and using your forearm and wrist to make small circles with the hand unlike a baitcast reel where the forearm is kept rigid and the small circles of the hand are made by rotating at the wrist requiring greater dexterity.
Tl:dr U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A
new2BC4bass reply :
On 4/22/2018 at 3:33 AM, Beetlebz said:Honestly the brakes are the reason I decided to switch to shimano after I bought my first casitas. Those SVS brakes are nearly idiot proof once you're in the right ballpark with only enough spool tension go minimize movement. I can pitch a country mile, then without touching a thing bomb a crank bait out of sight. Having only mag brakes means you still need some spool tension (or a pro thumb which I lack) to keep the spool docile. My casitas is spooled with mono and it's my topwater reel, finesse bottom contact (t-rigs and finesse jigs), chatterbait reel and swimbait reel. I can bomb a belly weighted swim bait out of sight and then without touching the brakes throw a bulky chatterbait or c-rig just as far. It will be hard for me to concede that regular mag brakes work just as well but perhaps I'd be doing myself a favor to find out. Diawa reels are always coming up in eBay sales.
My Diawa SV spool reels are set with just a tad of side-to-side play. My other Diawa reels are set nearly as loose. I definitely don't have the thumb control most of you guys have. I probably use more brakes than most, but I feel this method is better for distance. If I backlash, it is because I did something wrong.
On 4/22/2018 at 6:14 AM, BaitFinesse said:Try moving your hand off the reel, onto the rod grip and placing your index finger behind the rod' s trigger when casting. Also the Daiwa reels with Magforce Z or Air Brake are not standard mag reels. There is a centrifugal componets to the mag braking. They're actually more easy to dial in and set and forget than a Shimano SVS.
My Shimanos are older reels. I had more trouble dialing in my 51Es than many of my Daiwas.
I talked to a guy unloading his boat. He had a cheaper baitcast reel that he didn't use anymore because he said he would make 4 or 5 casts and then backlash. I handed him my 50th Anniversary Zillion, RX7 Rainshadow 7' MHF, 12# Elite, 1/2 oz. spinnerbait after adding just a bit more spool tension. A few minutes later he asked me, "How do you backlash this thing?" Told him to back off on the brakes. Said he already had.
I think a lot of it is what you are used to using. I've said it before....I set brakes at 3 and adjusted spool tension fairly loose when I took my Primmus out of the box. Never touched it afterwards. Until my last visit it is the only reel I have taken to Florida with me that did not need any minor adjustments to control backlashes. My reels require some minor adjusting because I am forced to change my casting stroke there. Some other reels I have taken include Zillion, Patriarch XT, Gen1 STX, Purple Alphas, tuned Alphas F, Curado 51E, Curado 201E7, older Trion, Helios Air, Helios, Excense DC, tuned TD-Z 105H, tuned Airy Red, SV 103.
The Excense DC is the only other reel that didn't need minor adjustments. Probably wouldn't have needed to adjust my T3 1016, but I was keeping it as a back-up reel. The 3D braking system is great.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 6:33 AM, BaitFinesse said:When it comes to dexterity the turning of the handle on a baitcast reel is the most strenuous task. It takes a lot to make continuous and rapid small circles with the hand while grasping with the index and thumb. This is why it is common see reels with the handle on the right as most people are right hand dominate.
For those who have the dexterity to use either left or right retrieve the prefference largely boils down to nationality. In other words USA vs Everyone else. In the US it is preferable to both cast and retrieve baitcast reels with your dominate hand to make use of the dexterity in that hand to perform both tasks. US anglers commonly grab the rod handle when casting and place the index finger behind the rod's trigger making for no difference in time spent between switching hands to cast right and palm left vs casting right and palming right. Both need to move their hands from casting position to the palming position.
Outside of the US it is common to reel with your non dominate hand. It is also common to cast while palming the reel by having 2 fingers in front of the rod's trigger when casting. Doing this places the reels handle close to the knuckles and can make it difficult to cast right handed with a right hand retrieve reel so left is commonly prefered. Reels with handles on the non dominate side allow you to cast with your dominate hand while palming the reel without smacking into the reels drag star or handle and allow you to quickly transition from casting to palming because you cast with the same fingers In front of the rod trigger as you do when palming the reel.
I would argue that the US way of doing it is superior as it allows you to use the dominate hand with the greatest dexterity to perform the two most strenuous tasks but the rest of the world must be on to something I also see no merit in casting with any more than one finger in front of the rods trigger. Yes you can transition from casting to palming slightly more quickly but the palming of the reel when casting creates an additional set problems such as the opening of the side plate when casting as we see in this thread. I also don't believe that it is advantageous to hold the rod with your dominate hand when palming the reel. You are grasping the rod in an non dominate underhand cupping motion with your hand wrapped around the reel. If you were to grab the rod blank in a overhand dominate grip with the reel suspended below such as on a spinning rod then the use of a left hand spinning reel makes sense. The suspension of a spinning reel below the rod also make it easier to turn the reels handle with your non dominate hand by rotating at the elbow and using your forearm and wrist to make small circles with the hand unlike a baitcast reel where the forearm is kept rigid and the small circles of the hand are made by rotating at the wrist requiring greater dexterity.
Tl:dr U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A
Maybe it's because I play a lot of video games, but the handle is easier for me. I can't write right handed, or do anything else with intricate movements like moving certain types of food around in a pan, but a constant circle is easy to grasp(no pun intended). It's still weird, don't get me wrong, I'll always move my spinning reel handles to the right side because it's more comfortable.
I've never put much thought into exactly how I'm holding my rod and reel, where my fingers are, etc, but I guess I do choke up on the reel a bit with most of my fingers ahead of the trigger. For me anyway, the intricate wrist movements are with the cast -- flipping, avoiding grasses and overhanging trees, etc. Then, during the retrieve, navigating the rod tip around underwater structure, controlling the fish when necessary, bouncing plastics off the bottom without moving them too much, all of that involves the rod and my dominant hand.
Throughout the whole thing, the only instructions I need to tell my nondominant hand are to either speed up, slow down, or stop. When I was young, I only used spincast reels until I moved on to baitcasting, and I didn't touch a spinning reel until I used a friend's rig well into my teenage years. Every reel I used was right hand retrieve, and it always just made sense for me to cast with my left. As far as I'm concerned, there's no right or wrong answer here, but casting with your dominant hand, then moving the rod to your nondominant side so you can turn a handle with your dominant hand just seems suboptimal, looking from the outside.
HogsNHawgs reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 12:43 AM, MisterDeadeye said:What's odd about being left handed and casting with your left arm on a right-hand retrieve reel? Your left hand will be the one messing with the rod to utilize your lure's action, it will be your left thumb controlling the spool and one of your fingers touching the line to detect bites.
When it comes to dexterity, your left hand will have to do a lot more than your right with a right-hand retrieve reel. It's the righties using right-hand retrieve reels, casting with their right, who are odd.
I was always told that I needed a lefty reel because when I cast and pronate my arm the gears and handle should be pointing upward for "optimal" distance. That's all B.S. cuz I can throw baits pretty far doing it the "wrong way" with my righty reel.
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 5:13 AM, HogsNHawgs said:I was always told that I needed a lefty reel because when I cast and pronate my arm the gears and handle should be pointing upward for "optimal" distance. That's all B.S. cuz I can throw baits pretty far doing it the "wrong way" with my righty reel.
That's an interesting thought. I keep my reel upright during my cast... I bet someone has done some kind of testing for this stuff, we just gotta find it.
Beetlebz reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 5:23 AM, MisterDeadeye said:That's an interesting thought. I keep my reel upright during my cast... I bet someone has done some kind of testing for this stuff, we just gotta find it.
Yes, we have all done this testing every time we are on the water! If throwing off hand really limited your casting distance we would have noticed it, or the difference is so small that its unnoticeable. In my book that means it just don't matter bruh.
Hulkster reply :
does the curado K have the same latch mechanism as the I model?
On the I model, there is an audible 'click' sound when you move the button forwards to close it.
If the side plate is not on properly (because the spool tension or drag set too high and its not allowing clearance) it might not be latching properly.
is this what happened?
Beetlebz reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 1:41 AM, Hulkster said:does the curado K have the same latch mechanism as the I model?
On the I model, there is an audible 'click' sound when you move the button forwards to close it.
If the side plate is not on properly (because the spool tension or drag set too high and its not allowing clearance) it might not be latching properly.
is this what happened?
Depends.... which one of us are you talking to lol
MisterDeadeye reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 1:03 AM, Beetlebz said:Yes, we have all done this testing every time we are on the water! If throwing off hand really limited your casting distance we would have noticed it, or the difference is so small that its unnoticeable. In my book that means it just don't matter bruh.
You clearly don't understand the conversation I was having in the first place.
bruh
Beetlebz reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 5:41 AM, MisterDeadeye said:You clearly don't understand the conversation I was having in the first place.
bruh
I was referring to the part of the conversation where you were both musing about the orientation of the reel during the cast having an affect on the performance of the reel. Not the ergonomics of the reel and how it relates to dexterity which was moot and dreadfully off topic.
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