Problem with Revo S 2024

bmadd reply :

Today while out on the water fishing with my Abu Garcia Revo S, I noticed that my casting went from far to about half that. I opened up the side plate and noticed that two brake pins and worked their way to the "on" position (all brake pins were pressed down to begin with). They were not across from each other either, one brake pin between the two. I pushed them back down and made my next cast only to see it go half the distance I'd been casting at all day as well. I opened it back up and the same two pins had worked their way into the on position again. This happened three or four times before I got fed up and retired the combo for the day. Any ideas as to what was going on?

Bassn Blvd reply :

The problem is >>>>It's not a SHIMANO.......Sorry but I couldn't resist.

bmadd reply :

My conclusion was close to yours...mine was it's not a Daiwa...I should've known better than to go out on a dead limb and try something new...now I'm stuck with this piece of junk :'(

cart7t reply :

How much do you want for that piece of junk?

5bass reply :

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The problem is >>>>It's not a SHIMANO.......Sorry but I couldn't resist.

Thats funny. So Shimano never has any problems with their reels? I doubt it.

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My conclusion was close to yours...mine was it's not a Daiwa...I should've known better than to go out on a dead limb and try something new...now I'm stuck with this piece of junk :'(

I wouldnt throw a blanket across all Revo S models and say they are junk. ALL reel companies have problems, you were just unlucky and got a bad one. But maybe it's not bad and it can be fixed rather easily. Maybe Reel Mech will see this thread and shed some light on whats happening.

cart7t reply :

I seem to recall a certain moderator around here that got 2 Shimano's bad right out of the box. To make matters worse, Shimano wanted him to spend his money to send their broken new reels back to them so they could fix them.

grimlin reply :

I'd like to see somebody's professional opinion on what happened...i never heard of the brake pins moving on somebody before.You got me curious now....

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

If u aint usin um take um out ;D

Bassn Blvd reply :

I seem to see more problem with the new ABU's on here. Regardless which model they are. My spool spread. I traded it for the Premier. It ok but it aint my Shimano. Wish I could trade it ...

cart7t reply :

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I seem to see more problem with the new ABU's on here.

Links please.

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Regardless which model they are. My spool spread. I traded it for the Premier. It ok but it aint my Shimano. Wish I could trade it ...

I believe your spool spreading was determined to be caused by the person incorrectly spooling your reel with new line on the spooling machine vs. the actual reel itself.

Micro reply :

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I'd like to see somebody's professional opinion on what happened...i never heard of the brake pins moving on somebody before.You got me curious now....

Neither have I. I even tried to Google it up and came up with nothing.

Just curious, when you push the weights down, do they snap into place?

bmadd reply :

Not wanting this to heat up guys...sorry. Yes the pins click into place just like the rest of them but seem to work their way out midway on the first cast. I had never heard of it either and was sure somebody here could help. Cart 7 if you're interested in it pm me.

Micro reply :

How long have you had it? I know you stated you were stuck with it, but are you really? Revos haven't been out that long. It may still be under warranty by Abu. If you don't want it, you could still return it to them for repair and then sell it as used but in good working order - you'll get more money. Otherwise, I'd try taking it back to the store. I've taken stuff back to stores, particularly Bass Pro Shops, well after I was supposed to be able to return it. Most store are particulary good about that if you take it back for store credit, or exhange it for something else. Worth a try.

Sorry you hate it. I have 5 Revos (all mag brake) and haven't had a lick of trouble.

.dsaavedra. reply :

The_Conceited_Redneck had a good point. you mentioned that you werent using any brakes at all. well if you arent using them, then take them out!

my only thought would be that either the brake weight or the pin that it is on or both are somehow deformed. you should take those two brake weights off and inspect them closely for differences. and do the same for the pins. maybe the hole on those brake weights are slightly too big for the pin so they slide up.

did your reel come with replacement brake weights? if it did just swap out all the brake weights and try again.

Micro reply :

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The_Conceited_Redneck had a good point. you mentioned that you werent using any brakes at all. well if you arent using them, then take them out!
my only thought would be that either the brake weight or the pin that it is on or both are somehow deformed. you should take those two brake weights off and inspect them closely for differences. and do the same for the pins. maybe the hole on those brake weights are slightly too big for the pin so they slide up.

did your reel come with replacement brake weights? if it did just swap out all the brake weights and try again.

Great idea. I never thought of that. All my Abus that do have centrifugal brakes came with spare brakes.

.RM. reply :

bmadd,

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I opened up the side plate and noticed that two brake pins and worked their way to the "on" position (all brake pins were pressed down to begin with).

I have a Revo S-L, if the brake blocks aren't snapping (making a snap sound) to hold them in the off position, then you check the brake pins for the ridges they are supposed to have, that hold the blocks in the off position. If the pins are worn down that part can be replaced, or if a new reel replace it!...

bmadd reply :

Thanks everyone...I just opened the reel to inspect everything more closely and it appears the ridges have worn down. They make a slight clicking sound when pushing them to the off position but slide up to the on position very easily. ReelMechanic- how does this happen?

Thanks,

Braden

Raul reply :

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Thanks everyone...I just opened the reel to inspect everything more closely and it appears the ridges have worn down. They make a slight clicking sound when pushing them to the off position but slide up to the on position very easily. ReelMechanic- how does this happen?
Thanks,

Braden

Bad quality in the materials.

There 's no reason other than that one, you can expect a certain ammount of wear from anything which is normal under normal use, shock absorbers in cars last X ammount of miles, same can be said about brake pads, tires, etc, even a lightbulb has a lifespan of X ammount of hours.

But taking in consideration that the reel is new to the market hearing that the ridges wear out un such short period of time it shure makes you think about the quality and/or durability of the rest of the components of the reel. It 's not like if you are changing the brake settings every 5 min 24/7.

bmadd reply :

I guess you're right Raul. I opened up my little brother's Bass Pro Extreme (old style) and even it has metal brake pins instead of black plastic like the Abu. I'm stayin with Daiwa from now on...

Raul reply :

What I would do if I were you would be to send back the reel for repair, it must still have warranty, once repaired then I would most probably sell it and then use the money to get me something else.

.RM. reply :

I have to agree with Raul here, it will make you wonder especially if the reel is new. Although that part of the spool assembly is replaceable and does have it's own part number. If the reel is used then I would find out how much use the reel has had and then I would judge the parts ability to stand up.

bmadd reply :

I bought the reel at the beginning of May. It's been fished probably 10-12 weekends. I imagine I'll be contacting Abu Garcia tomorrow.

Micro reply :

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Bad quality in the materials.

I'm curious as to why suddenly Abu is using bad quality materials. Abu has been making centrifugal brakes for as long as I can remember. I've never had a problem with my Abu reels with centrifugal brakes. I also tried Googling up the problem described and I can't find a similar complaint anywhere.

.dsaavedra. reply :

i figured one of the pins was deformed. thats good that you've located the problem. i would send it back, get a new one, and if the new one sucks too, then send it back and get a different reel.

ive got an old ambassaduer 5500C and it only has two brake weights...i thought that was weird. i've never seen a ree with only two weights

Raul reply :

Beginning when or why is a question where your guess is as good as mine, I don 't own nor are associated in any form with the company, what is obvious is that they are using lesser quality in the materials, the kind of wear that 's being described it 's an indication of:

1.- bad materials

2.- lack of quality control

It is simply absurd that a reel purchased in May is exhibiting problems of wear 5 MONTHS LATER. It simply should not happen.

Abu: " LOOOOOOOOK, here 's our newest & meanest low profile baitcaster !!!!!!, purchase it while you can"

5 months later

Abu: " OOOOOOOPPPPPPPS. sorry guyz ! we forgot to tell you that the centrifugal brake in you reel is going to wear in 5 months or 10-12 weekends, whatever happens first"

C 'mon ! :

Jake. reply :

I loved my Revo S, but apperantly something has started to ware down internally. The retrieve isn't as smooth, and I can feel something grinding on the inside when I turn the handle.

I might have to try a shimano... :-X

Micro reply :

Raul, I'm sure that's exactly what's happened.

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

Its so sad when such a small part wears down in such a great reel i mean WOW some reels that begin with a S had a problem with there pawl wearing down after a few days and some reels with the first letter D had anti reverse problems when they came out with there flagship reels in 2007 .I saw quite a few post about this for S and D reels over the summer .Dont let a little piece of plastic get u down it coulda been worse ya no 8-)

Micro reply :

Good point. I've noticed that when something goes wrong with an Abu, it's declared "junk." When something goes wrong with a Shimano or Daiwa, it "needs service." Funny how that works. :

Raul reply :

S and D immediatelly recalled all the reels they had already sent away, stopped the production and sent all customers that the problem would be solved immediately, all you had to do was to ask for the parts or send the reel to an authorized service center.

I have no idea what 's going on in Abus top brass ' minds, all I know is that they are making the company look like crap, I have two XLT Plus series bcs and a Cardinal Ultracast I purchased over 2 decades ago and so far never had any issues with them, heck, I still fish with them ! and maybe because the normal wear has sanded down some of the roughness the machining process leaves they are now smoother than brand new. I was so pleased that I purchased the Black Max series when it appeared in the market, but the Black Max isn 't built like a tank.

Then came the infamous Eon and Torno ....... , those have a very special place in my "Hall of Shame "

So ...... what the heck is going on in Abu Garcia ?

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

its hard to recall soooooooooo many revo s............ cabelas sold out of them in what was it 4 months .im sure a lot of amatuars bought many but still sellin out shows progress .if you sell 1 mill reels u will have a few probs if u sell only 50 thousand u shouldnt

Micro reply :

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S and D immediatelly recalled all the reels they had already sent away, stopped the production and sent all customers that the problem would be solved immediately, all you had to do was to ask for the parts or send the reel to an authorized service center.

I contacted Abu for a screw I messed up on one of my Revos. I received 5 screws free of charge in three days. I've never had to send anything to Abu for repair or ask for any other parts. One measure of quality control is how many times you have to deal with a service department - or a recall.

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Then came the infamous Eon and Torno ....... ;), those have a very special place in my "Hall of Shame "

The Eon and Torno aren't in Abu's line up anymore. So what they are thinking is anyone's guess. But at any rate, the Eon, while unorthodox looking, was very highly regarded and apparently one of the best casters ever made. I don't have any experience with the Torno, but I've seen mixed reviews - but mostly good.

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So ...... what the heck is going on in Abu Garcia ?

Whatever it is, I've been favorably impressed. Apparently many other have been, too.

Raul reply :

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Whatever it is, I've been favorably impressed. Apparently many other have been, too.

Yeah, right, ask Bmadd.

Jeff H reply :

LOL...you guys are hilarious. : So far I'm really happy with my Revo's BUT....I don't own a "S". All 3 of mine are mag brakes.

TrickyVT1887 reply :

The revo unlike ambassadors C3 and C4 series is not made in Sweden but rather made in china, dont know if this means anything but just stating the fact

Micro reply :

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Whatever it is, I've been favorably impressed. Apparently many other have been, too.

Yeah, right, ask Bmadd.

Bmadd is one person, Raul. I don't understand why his problem is so unforgivable when similar, or worse problems, have arisen with Daiwa and Shimano.

I owned a Shimano Curado SF that inscently scraped when it was cranked, and two Cardiff's that cast about 1/2 as far as my Abu C4s. Would I be wrong if I declared Simano junk? Yes, I would.

I owned two Daiwa spinning reels, both of which had spools that you just couldn't get tight - they oscillated terribly under drag. I ended up giving them to my kid's boy scout troop. So, Daiwa's junk? Hardly.

I suppose I just don't understand why people have what is clearly isolated problems and other are quick to declare their reels junk. Severe cases of brand-bias, I suppose.

Micro reply :

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The revo unlike ambassadors C3 and C4 series is not made in Sweden but rather made in china, dont know if this means anything but just stating the fact

They are made in Korea. I'm not sure if Koreans build reels any better than Chinese, Malaysians, Thais, or Japanese.

Raul reply :

Made in China doesn 't = *****, made in China means that the product is made in China and the chinese make the product with whatever the company has given them to build the product, they don 't decide with what materials the product is going to be made, that decission is made by the corporate headquarters of the company. If the brass decides that they are going to use this and that the factory wherever it is located is going to build it with this and that.

So actually the fact you are stating is that is made in China, your point is ?

Reread above.

Micro reply :

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Made in China doesn 't = *****,

Something you and I agree upon.

cart7t reply :

I've got 4 S reels, 2 SC's and an SX. 2 of the S reels I bought were pretty used considering the age. The other 2 were like new.

I can't tell the difference between the two. Whether the older reel with at least a full season on it or the newer ones, they both operate quite well and I'm pretty happy with the Centrifugal braking on them. No pins loose on any of them.

One of the SC's and the SX have really been getting a workout the past few months and neither has missed a beat.

Anything manufactured is open to have problems, especially if it's a new design and regardless of who built it.

Flaws in engineering.

Lack of proper testing of a new design.

Failures in the assembly process or a change in supplier for a key part.

QC not thoroughly checking every reel they're supposed to check.

It happens. That's why they have warranties people.

TrickyVT1887 reply :

I didn't mean anything by that but the fact that they aren't made in the same factory as the C3 and C4 reels, the staple of Ambassadors lineup i didn't state that since it was made in china means its crap but rather that it was made in a different place than the C3 and C4 reels

LakeAnnaBasser reply :

His reel does not have a serious a problem. I wouldnt send it back. If you dont use the brakes just remove them all. Problem solved. Also shiamno reels us the plastic brakes as well. This problem is getting way into detail then it should. Its kind of funny though. ;D

Jake P reply :

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I loved my Revo S, but apperantly something has started to ware down internally. The retrieve isn't as smooth, and I can feel something grinding on the inside when I turn the handle.
I might have to try a shimano... :-X

this happened to me yesterday morning, i fished for a few hours and it seemed fine and towards the end of the day around 4 when i would reel in it felt like something was grinding when i turned the handle. i dont know if it needs to be lubed or oiled or if its just a bad reel im not sure, but i havent even had my Revo S a month and that worries me.......if it continues i will be returning it for the citica combo

bmadd reply :

Hey guys lets calm down a little...when I said earlier I had a piece of junk I simply meant my reel. Nothing against Abu Garcia, just saying I regret not staying with Daiwa when I haven't had any problems with the Daiwa reels I have purchased, again not saying problems don't occur with Daiwa reels-just that I haven't experienced any. I'll see what will come out of the warranty and if things work out and I get it back I'll probably post it for sale...nothing against Abu Garcia, simply a bad experience that will lead me to stay with a company I have yet to encounter a problem with. Thanks for all the help guys

5bass reply :

The horse has been beat enough. Thread locked.

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