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dam0007 reply :
So I'm considering doing the full conversion to Daiwa all in one order from JLS the day the Zillion HLC releases. Really debating on which reels to go with would love for you guys that are more familiar with Daiwas various models to chime in. All I'm thinking right now is do a couple Steez and the rest Zillions but maybe some of their other models might be better. Here's what I need them for:
Casting:
Yudo1 reply :
Sounds expensive and fun. Along with steez and zillions I would also grab a couple of alphas sv's especially for jerk bait and top water duty. I throw x rap8 and pop r nicely.
Edit:. Are you only buying new or would you add some classics like tdz? I highly recommend tdz r+, TD ito, etc. I feel like every daiwa fan needs at least one.
new2BC4bass reply :
Wow. You are putting together some very nice combos. Wish I could help. I've got quite a few Daiwas, but the newest are the PXL Type R and Alphas SV105. My Zillions are the older models. Can't afford a Steez. From reading the TT review of the Zillion TWS, I would limit it to the same weight lures as my older Zillions.....3/8 oz. and up.
Although I seem to be the only one not impressed with the Alphas SV, I would still recommend it as an alternative to the much more expensive Steez for rods such as the 703C, 684CB and 685CB. Either I got one that doesn't perform up to snuff or I don't know how to use it properly. Too many others love it.
I am getting so I like faster ratios. The cranks are probably the only rods I would prefer slower ratios on.
Like I said, I have no experience with a Steez or Zillion TWS, so my comments are simply personal preference and impressions formed from my reading. Be sure to let us know what you decide on and how each combo works for you.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/23/2016 at 9:16 PM, Yudo1 said:Sounds expensive and fun. Along with steez and zillions I would also grab a couple of alphas sv's especially for jerk bait and top water duty. I throw x rap8 and pop r nicely.
Edit:. Are you only buying new or would you add some classics like tdz? I highly recommend tdz r+, TD ito, etc. I feel like every daiwa fan needs at least one.
Cool thanks I'll look into the Alphas I'll throw in there if stay with a mix of Daiwas and Shimanos I'll keep my Scorpion 1001XTs for the 684 and 685 and Met XG for the 743.
On 5/23/2016 at 9:37 PM, new2BC4bass said:Wow. You are putting together some very nice combos. Wish I could help. I've got quite a few Daiwas, but the newest are the PXL Type R and Alphas SV105. My Zillions are the older models. Can't afford a Steez. From reading the TT review of the Zillion TWS, I would limit it to the same weight lures as my older Zillions.....3/8 oz. and up.
Although I seem to be the only one not impressed with the Alphas SV, I would still recommend it as an alternative to the much more expensive Steez for rods such as the 703C, 684CB and 685CB. Either I got one that doesn't perform up to snuff or I don't know how to use it properly. Too many others love it.
I am getting so I like faster ratios. The cranks are probably the only rods I would prefer slower ratios on.
Like I said, I have no experience with a Steez or Zillion TWS, so my comments are simply personal preference and impressions formed from my reading. Be sure to let us know what you decide on and how each combo works for you.
The "new" older zillion is the 103 now??? I think, but I'm going all JDM I don't see it available. Don't plan on going the used route either. Just gonna do it all in 1 shot. Then I'll have like 20 Shimanos for sale if I don't keep a few. Lol SS SV looks like a good alternative for a couple set ups. It's getting really confusing.
Yudo1 reply :
My line up is also daiwa with a few shims thrown in (curado 51e, met xg and exsence DC).
PitchinJigz reply :
Why are you getting rid of your Shimano's?
buzzed bait reply :
On 5/25/2016 at 1:07 AM, PitchinJigz said:Why are you getting rid of your Shimano's?
so that he can buy them back again 
dam0007 reply :
On 5/25/2016 at 2:21 AM, buzzed bait said:so that he can buy them back again
Lmao why would I do that?
On 5/25/2016 at 1:07 AM, PitchinJigz said:Why are you getting rid of your Shimano's?
Will get rid of some of the definitely but it's up in the site if I get rid of all of them. Idk the Daiwas are impressing the hell outta me. Really like their performance on the water. Nothing bad to say about Shimano though.
mojojojo reply :
Wow, you're talking close to $4000 in reels for your casting rods.
Must be nice to be able to spend money like that.
If I spent even half that on some reels my wife would kick me out
you must either be single or rich.....or both
Yudo1 reply :
On 5/26/2016 at 11:19 AM, mojojojo said:Wow, you're talking close to $4000 in reels for your casting rods.
Must be nice to be able to spend money like that.
If I spent even half that on some reels my wife would kick me out
you must either be single or rich.....or both
I have found that spending thousands on reels has nothing to do with being rich, at least for me lol.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 5/26/2016 at 7:20 PM, Yudo1 said:I have found that spending thousands on reels has nothing to do with being rich, at least for me lol.
True. Just takes a few years for some of to do that. 
CTGalloway21 reply :
i use 7 gear ratio with squarebills.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/26/2016 at 11:19 AM, mojojojo said:Wow, you're talking close to $4000 in reels for your casting rods.
Must be nice to be able to spend money like that.
If I spent even half that on some reels my wife would kick me out
you must either be single or rich.....or both
Dave Ramsey's book Total Money Makeover. Thank me in a few years! ?
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Made my first order towards the conversion
JDM Tatula HLC 8.1:1 - for Keitechs
JDM Tatula 5.5:1 'Crazy Cranker' - for Squarebills
JDM Zillion SV 9.1:1 - for 3/8-1/2oz jigs
cant wait!!!
Cgrinder reply :
On the one hand I hate the Twing, on the other hand I'd like some 9:1's. Let me know how that Zilion SV works out please.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/28/2016 at 12:56 AM, Cgrinder said:On the one hand I hate the Twing, on the other hand I'd like some 9:1's. Let me know how that Zilion SV works out please.
Why do u hate the twing? ... Will do I can't wait to throw this thing, the JDM version has the mag sealed bearings too.
Angry John reply :
Spinning I would go certate. Have one and its great.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/28/2016 at 9:38 AM, Angry John said:Spinning I would go certate. Have one and its great.
I just got the ballistics, insane deal on them I couldn't pass it up. I'm really impressed with them.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
Its all about what ya like ..i have over 100 reels some more then $100 some less if i paid retail it be about 12k
FordsnFishin reply :
On 5/23/2016 at 9:43 PM, dam0007 said:
The "new" older zillion is the 103 now??? I think, but I'm going all JDM I don't see it available. Don't plan on going the used route either. Just gonna do it all in 1 shot. Then I'll have like 20 Shimanos for sale if I don't keep a few. Lol SS SV looks like a good alternative for a couple set ups. It's getting really confusing.
Any of those left handed? If so contact me, might be interested.
My zillion tws I have cast like a dream and is butter smooth. I'm sure you couldn't go wrong with the new ones.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/29/2016 at 1:52 PM, FordsnFishin said:Any of those left handed? If so contact me, might be interested.
My zillion tws I have cast like a dream and is butter smooth. I'm sure you couldn't go wrong with the new ones.
All left handed anything from older citicas to newer metaniums. I'm waiting to get everything in and fish before I go selling all my stuff off. If for some reason I don't like something then I'll be stuck with having to buy reels I already had again. So plan is get Daiwas, fish them then determine which to sell.
iabass8 reply :
I would be looking for some TDZ type R + and drop some 7:1 gears in them. Love that reel. I buy everyone I come across. I'd look at the Steez SV and 103SV. It will cover pretty much everything you need.
Side note, I'm not sure if you have used any of the rods you've ordered yet since switching to all Dobyns but, personally, there's 5-6 on there I think you will feel isn't nearly enough rod for what you are intending to use them for. If you have and like them,..different strokes.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/30/2016 at 11:55 AM, iabass8 said:I would be looking for some TDZ type R + and drop some 7:1 gears in them. Love that reel. I buy everyone I come across. I'd look at the Steez SV and 103SV. It will cover pretty much everything you need.
Side note, I'm not sure if you have used any of the rods you've ordered yet since switching to all Dobyns but, personally, there's 5-6 on there I think you will feel isn't nearly enough rod for what you are intending to use them for. If you have and like them,..different strokes.
Funny you said that about the Steez I just scored a Megabass IS71 Hyper Lariat for a great deal. First MB reel. Waiting till I get this new Zillion in and see how I like it before I go any farther.
Yeah all the rods are perfect only one more I need is a legit flipping stick. Like a 795 or something.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 5/30/2016 at 11:55 AM, iabass8 said:I would be looking for some TDZ type R + and drop some 7:1 gears in them. Love that reel. I buy everyone I come across. I'd look at the Steez SV and 103SV. It will cover pretty much everything you need.
Side note, I'm not sure if you have used any of the rods you've ordered yet since switching to all Dobyns but, personally, there's 5-6 on there I think you will feel isn't nearly enough rod for what you are intending to use them for. If you have and like them,..different strokes.
How can you suggest a reel and then tell the poor man you buy every one you come across? Planning on reselling any of yours? 
iabass8 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 1:29 AM, new2BC4bass said:How can you suggest a reel and then tell the poor man you buy every one you come across? Planning on reselling any of yours?
Most likely never. If he can ****** them before me, it's fair game.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 1:42 AM, iabass8 said:Most likely never. If he can ****** them before me, it's fair game.
***** what? Lol
iabass8 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 2:16 AM, dam0007 said:***** what? Lol
No idea what i typed lol. I should have said " get them" so who knows what my phone did.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 2:47 AM, iabass8 said:No idea what i typed lol. I should have said " get them" so who knows what my phone did.
Hey which rods were you thinking are to low of a power for given technique ?
iabass8 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 4:00 AM, dam0007 said:Hey which rods were you thinking are to low of a power for given technique ?
Scarborough817 reply :
frog i would go with a tat type r 8.1.1
dam0007 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 4:11 AM, iabass8 said:Champ 704CB - 4-8ft cranks -i would use the 705cb or cb glass hereChamp 705CB - 10-18ft cranks -100% the 764 or 805 would be better. 705 is not a good deep diving rod.Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - personally feel your 2 powers light here. I use the dx745 for these. 703 is a senko rod and will be incredibly overloaded .ChampX 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - same as above ten fold.ChampX 744C - C Rig - be fine at 1/2oz or less. Anything over id opt for the champ 765 or dx 745
The 704 glass has been good for throwing those little bandit cranks that weigh next to nothing. In selling this Rod tho if I get what I'm asking for it. Just not catching enough quality fish on the small stuff to justify keeping it. The 705 has been pretty much DT10-16 and Pin Jack dedicated. I do need a 765 the beast hunters I throw do over power this Rod. Do you think that would be good or the 764? They gave Paul his own signature Rod I may actually check that out but I think it's a 8 footer.
the 2 703s have been perfect for close quarters pitching for me especially the DX. Skipping around laydowns and docks. So used to the 7'1" *** mh/XF that this has taken some getting used to. The other one has been good for pitching the light stuff like t rigged rage bugs and craws.
The 744 I've been throwing 3/4oz c Rigs with no issue. Me and Rich we're going back n forth for a while on what would work for me. This is what I ended up with.
iabass8 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 4:22 AM, dam0007 said:
The 704 glass has been good for throwing those little bandit cranks that weigh next to nothing. In selling this Rod tho if I get what I'm asking for it. Just not catching enough quality fish on the small stuff to justify keeping it. The 705 has been pretty much DT10-16 and Pin Jack dedicated. I do need a 765 the beast hunters I throw do over power this Rod. Do you think that would be good or the 764? They gave Paul his own signature Rod I may actually check that out but I think it's a 8 footer.
the 2 703s have been perfect for close quarters pitching for me especially the DX. Skipping around laydowns and docks. So used to the 7'1" *** mh/XF that this has taken some getting used to. The other one has been good for pitching the light stuff like t rigged rage bugs and craws.
The 744 I've been throwing 3/4oz c Rigs with no issue. Me and Rich we're going back n forth for a while on what would work for me. This is what I ended up with.
Hard to say which you would prefer. You definitely use lighter powered rods than what is traditionally used.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 5:19 AM, iabass8 said:Hard to say which you would prefer. You definitely use lighter powered rods than what is traditionally used.
Lol yeah I agree.
So playing around with the list moving things around how does this look so far. The 2 with * are rods I'm gonna be ordering. All the reels in bold are what I just ordered this past week. Minus the zillion HLC I pre ordered.
Casting:
the 702 and 703 might upgrade those to 2 more of the zillion SV if I'm impressed with it. Or maybe save a buck and grab 2 Tat CTs. The Scorps and Chronarchs can hold me over as from this point in the season I won't be throwing those for awhile minus topwater.
Critique
- side note
this leaves
(2) Curado 201G7
(1) Citica 201G6
(1) Met XG
(1) Citica 201I HG
(1) Curado 201I
(1) Chronarch ci4 HG
available to sell. Could start recouping some funds lol
mojojojo reply :
On 5/28/2016 at 12:56 AM, Cgrinder said:On the one hand I hate the Twing, on the other hand I'd like some 9:1's. Let me know how that Zilion SV works out please.
How in the world could you dislike the T wing?
Cgrinder reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 11:43 AM, mojojojo said:How in the world could you dislike the T wing?
Gimmicky and, up until relatively recently, faulty. I should note that I am a four fingers in front of the trigger palmer and wide-nose reels don't agree with that.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 11:50 AM, Cgrinder said:Gimmicky and, up until relatively recently, faulty. I should note that I am a four fingers in front of the trigger palmer and wide-nose reels don't agree with that.
Yeah bro when I was using the ** rods. The reel seat was not working for me with the tats. Now with the standard reel seats in my new rods have no issue how I palm. I hear your gripe brother!
dam0007 reply :
How is the New Alphas SV? Do they palm much smaller than the Tats/Zillions? Thinking maybe something smaller for top water and jerkbait rods? Idk was using the Scopion 1001XTs
IDUTBass reply :
On 6/6/2016 at 8:30 AM, dam0007 said:How is the New Alphas SV? Do they palm much smaller than the Tats/Zillions? Thinking maybe something smaller for top water and jerkbait rods? Idk was using the Scopion 1001XTs
I really like my alphas sv. It is much smaller than my Tatula type r. It can be a little finicky to dial in at first but does well after you get used to it.
Yudo1 reply :
Alphas sv is about the same size as the scorpion xt. The 7.2 gear model makes a great jerk bait/top water reel and it will even throw the little x rap 8's.
dam0007 reply :
Thanks guys!
kickerfish1 reply :
On 6/6/2016 at 8:50 AM, IDUTBass said:
I really like my alphas sv. It is much smaller than my Tatula type r. It can be a little finicky to dial in at first but does well after you get used to it.
I am not sure about why but I would tend to agree with that statement. My Alphas SV 105 appeared to have a sticky inductor when I got it. I followed a tip from a friend about lightly oiling something around that inductor (can't recall what at the moment) and haven't had a problem since. It casts very controlled and pretty far for baits under 3/8. I use mine for jerkbaits, finesse jigs, and small plastics. One of the best palming reels out there and relatively light as well.
Angry John reply :
So this is a huge move so I hate to piecemill you. I have and love the champ 764 randy cranking rod and its a special rod. Short the larger cranks like the Norman dd22 and larger its great. The randy 805 works for the larger baits but I don't use those and don't have that rod. Gary helped me out on this rod and I am so happy I called.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/31/2016 at 4:11 AM, iabass8 said:Champ 704CB - 4-8ft cranks -i would use the 705cb or cb glass hereChamp 705CB - 10-18ft cranks -100% the 764 or 805 would be better. 705 is not a good deep diving rod.Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - personally feel your 2 powers light here. I use the dx745 for these. 703 is a senko rod and will be incredibly overloaded .ChampX 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - same as above ten fold.ChampX 744C - C Rig - be fine at 1/2oz or less. Anything over id opt for the champ 765 or dx 745
Hey bro Critique the line up again lol it will be this if I cancel my Zillion HLC pre order and keep the CTs
Casting:
Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tatula 5.5:1 JDM
- 16# Super Natural GREEN
Fury 735C - Frogs - Tatula Tactical 8.1:1
- 65# FX2
Fury 795SB - A Rig/Swimbaits - Tatula HD 6.3:1 JDM
- 65# FX2
Savvy 663C - Flukes - Tatula Type R 6.3:1
- 16# Super Natural GREEN
Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits - Zillion SV 6.3:1
- 8# Assassin FC
Champ 685CB - Topwater - Zillion SV 7.3:1
- 14# Super Natural CLEAR
Champ 705CB - 8-12ft cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM
- 10# Sniper
Champ XP 765CB - 12ft+ cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM
- 10# Sniper
Champ XP 734C - SpinBuzzChat - Tatula Tactical 7.3:1
- 17# Defier Armilo
Champ 702C - 3/16-1/4oz Jig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1
- 10# Sniper
Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1
- 15# Assassin FC
DX HP 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM
- 12# Assassin FC
DX HP 743C - Keitechs - Tatula HLC JDM
- 10# Shooter
DX HP 744C - 1/2oz+ C & T Rig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM
- 16# Shooter
DX HP 795Flip - Flippin' - Megabass IS71
- 16# Flippin' FC
Spinning:
Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex
- 16# SX1 Main Line - 10# Sniper Leader
Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex
- 12# SX1 Main Line - 7# Sniper Leader
Leftovers:
CS 704CB Glass
(2) Tatula 6.3:1
if anything I still do the HLC and get another 744 DX or even a 704.
iabass8 reply :
I would swap your champ 702 for the dx742c HP. I just got one and plan on getting another. Sweet rod.
You'll love that dx795. Good addition. Awesome flipping/punching rod.
You may want to try spinnerbaits/buzz/chatter on a 3 power. I typically prefer a heavier powered rod and use th 3 powers for all those techniques . Lots like a 4 though.
looks good though!
Still can't believe you're using the 3 power for 1/2oz jigs amd trigs. You crazy.
dam0007 reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 9:21 PM, iabass8 said:I would swap your champ 702 for the dx742c HP. I just got one and plan on getting another. Sweet rod.
You'll love that dx795. Good addition. Awesome flipping/punching rod.
You may want to try spinnerbaits/buzz/chatter on a 3 power. I typically prefer a heavier powered rod and use th 3 powers for all those techniques . Lots like a 4 though.
looks good though!
Still can't believe you're using the 3 power for 1/2oz jigs amd trigs. You crazy.
I was thinking about that with the 702 for the DX702 but I heard there's no where near the backbone of the 702 I have. The 742 is too long for those little thing. I also throw little cabin creeks on that Rod with 1/4oz heads.
I was using the 703C for spin buzz chat but wanted a full grip and Rich convinced me the 734 is the way to go. So far it's been killer for the 1/2oz Super Eruptions.
Well for 2 years was using the *** 7'1" MH/XF for jigs. It was just a hair stiffer than the DX 703.
Another option I was thinking grab a Fury 733 or 734 for spin buzz chat. And promote the champ 734 to Trig duty. Do the Zil HLC for the DX 744. I'd then have both covered rather than a Rod sharing duties.
I'm almost there thank God!
Edit*
some buddies telling me the IS71 is not gonna be a good flippin/punchin reel. Ahh idk prob gonna have to move some things around. Might end up with a SV103 then.... Dam
dam0007 reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 9:21 PM, iabass8 said:I would swap your champ 702 for the dx742c HP. I just got one and plan on getting another. Sweet rod.
You'll love that dx795. Good addition. Awesome flipping/punching rod.
You may want to try spinnerbaits/buzz/chatter on a 3 power. I typically prefer a heavier powered rod and use th 3 powers for all those techniques . Lots like a 4 though.
looks good though!
Still can't believe you're using the 3 power for 1/2oz jigs amd trigs. You crazy.
Did a little revision
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