Leak of the new Daiwa Tatula Elite reel 2024
punch reply :
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByJu45hgYXz/?igshid=1nf7rkwcyz3n6
Looks like it'll be an aluminum Tatula 100 with a bunch of upgrades. I wonder what the price will be.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
Looks very nice. This is my first season with the Tatula SV and I'm in love with that reel. I like the Tatula 100 but the zero adjust spool tension just doesn't do it for me. Sad to see this new "Elite" model has the same thing.
BaitFinesse reply :
A distance tuned spool and the removal of the zero adjuster is something I was hoping for in a new Type R. I wonder if the inductor is tapered too or of they just used a stiffer spring?
On 6/1/2019 at 10:08 PM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:Looks very nice. This is my first season with the Tatula SV and I'm in love with that reel. I like the Tatula 100 but the zero adjust spool tension just doesn't do it for me. Sad to see this new "Elite" model has the same thing.
What is wrong with the zero adjuster? In the Diawa reels that dont have it I still set and forget the spool tension. It might as well be set that way out of the box.
LonnieP reply :
On 6/1/2019 at 11:48 PM, BaitFinesse said:
What is wrong with the zero adjuster? In the Diawa reels that dont have it I still set and forget the spool tension. It might as well be set that way out of the box.
I totally agree
rippin-lips reply :
The zero adjust just helps people remove an element of confusion. You leave it alone and use the mag brakes. It’s not, not adjustable. It’s just set to where Daiwa recommends it to be set at. It can be turned if you wanted to loosen it up some.
microotter reply :
I know this reel isn’t out in the wild yet, but can someone explain how this may compare to the daiwa tatula sv? Still learning the differences between all of the daiwas and am overwhelmed.
iabass8 reply :
On 6/1/2019 at 10:08 PM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:Looks very nice. This is my first season with the Tatula SV and I'm in love with that reel. I like the Tatula 100 but the zero adjust spool tension just doesn't do it for me. Sad to see this new "Elite" model has the same thing.
Zero adjust only means it set at the factory. You can still adjust the spool tension. It is no different than any other spool tension knob so a reel having "zero adjust" or not should have absolutely no bearing on a reel purchase. All my Steez SV TW's have it..
On 6/2/2019 at 5:26 AM, microotter said:I know this reel isn’t out in the wild yet, but can someone explain how this may compare to the daiwa tatula sv? Still learning the differences between all of the daiwas and am overwhelmed.
Going on TA description of the reel, it sounds like a new HLC model w/o calling it HLC. Lighter, deeper spool for a fast start up /w a tuned rotor. It will cast a heck of a lot further than the tatula SV but will have noticeably less control.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 5:26 AM, microotter said:I know this reel isn’t out in the wild yet, but can someone explain how this may compare to the daiwa tatula sv? Still learning the differences between all of the daiwas and am overwhelmed.
Seems like it will be the opposite of the Tatula SV. The SV has a lot of control at low speed and is great for skipping baits and casting baits that catch the wind and are prone to backlashes. I can dump the spool with a frog on my SV and dont even have to thumb the spool on splashdown. This new reel has a tuned spool to allow it to be very free at the end of the cast for maximum distance and possibly very fast spool speeds. I have a Zillion HLC (Hyper Long Cast) spool in my Zillion and it will cast the same frog the same distance or farther than the Tatula SV with less effort. I have to really try and throw hard to dump the spool with my Tatula SV casting a frog but my Zillion HLC will do it effortlessly and in like 1.5 seconds or less. Its crazy fast.
If it this new Tatula has a distance tuned inductor than it probably has an HLC spring on the inductor or something similar making it more similar to the HLC reels than an SV.
CrankFate reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 5:38 AM, iabass8 said:Zero adjust only means it set at the factory. You can still adjust the spool tension. It is no different than any other spool tension knob so a reel having "zero adjust" or not should have absolutely no bearing on a reel purchase.
Yes.
Anyone know what it weighs???
BaitFinesse reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 6:05 AM, CrankFate said:Yes.
Anyone know what it weighs???
Slightly heavier than the 100 would be my guess due to the aluminum handle side plate. I would guess 7.1 oz.
CrankFate reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 6:07 AM, BaitFinesse said:Slightly heavier than the 100 would be my guess due to the aluminum handle side plate. I would guess 7.1 oz.
At 6 oz or less it would be near perfect.
microotter reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 6:05 AM, CrankFate said:Yes.
Anyone know what it weighs???
The TA Instagram caption says a full ounce less than the Curado DC. The DC weighs 7.8 oz. according to TW.
CrankFate reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 6:13 AM, microotter said:The TA Instagram caption says a full ounce less than the Curado DC. The DC weighs 7.8 oz. according to TW.
6.8 is good.
BaitFinesse reply :
I think the fastest ratio Curado DC weighs in at 7.9 oz. This would mean that the Tatula Elite to weigh in at 6.9 oz with an aluminum handle side plate that it would have to have some other weight reduction done to it considering that the Tatula 100 weighs 6.9 oz with a plastic handle side plate. Maybe it has an aluminum handle shaft instead of brass? 6.9 oz for an aluminum frame and handle side plate reel with brass gears is still very light weight. I know Daiwa Alphas weigh less but they are much smaller. The Steez A has an aluminum main gear and still comes in at 6.7 oz.
iabass8 reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 6:39 AM, BaitFinesse said:I think the fastest ratio Curado DC weighs in at 7.9 oz. This would mean that the Tatula Elite to weigh in at 6.9 oz with an aluminum handle side plate that it would have to have some other weight reduction done to it considering that the Tatula 100 weighs 6.9 oz with a plastic handle side plate. Maybe it has an aluminum handle shaft instead of brass? 6.9 oz for an aluminum frame and handle side plate reel with brass gears is still very light weight. I know Daiwa Alphas weigh less but they are much smaller. The Steez A has an aluminum main gear and still comes in at 6.7 oz.
I think you're spot on. Being the morethan is 6.8-7.2 depending on gear ratio, I'm going to assume this new tatula will be 6.9oz /w brass gears. I'm just guessing here that the zaion drag star, maybe some bushings over bearings, possibly an aluminium shaft or even ported and the lighter spool are what put a should be 7.1-2 oz reel in the sub 7oz range. Either way, probably going to pass on this one. The Alphas CT I've had some use so far has been outstanding and a steal at the JDM prices I got it at.
Jason Penn reply :
that's a pretty sexy reel
Montanaro reply :
I will go against the grain here...
My Tatula sv is unimpressive. If set right it is pretty smooth no doubt but it seems awful finicky. This tat elite with zero adjust makes me feel wary.
I will stick with my fuego ct which is a low key work horse for a LOT of fishermen.
basseditor reply :
Darn it. Daiwa is going to suck more money out of me.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 6:58 AM, iabass8 said:I think you're spot on. Being the morethan is 6.8-7.2 depending on gear ratio, I'm going to assume this new tatula will be 6.9oz /w brass gears. I'm just guessing here that the zaion drag star, maybe some bushings over bearings, possibly an aluminium shaft or even ported and the lighter spool are what put a should be 7.1-2 oz reel in the sub 7oz range. Either way, probably going to pass on this one. The Alphas CT I've had some use so far has been outstanding and a steal at the JDM prices I got it at.
I really like Alphas reels. Just how good is this new one? Does it do it all? Does it cast the really light stuff, while still casting up to 3/8 oz yet can (and this is important) still skip as well as an Alphas SV?
Gorris317 reply :
How are aluminum gears?
Shimano_1 reply :
I'll second the not being impressed with the sv. I've had and used several ct reels and they were solid. Had 2 sv reels and came away wondering why the hype. Different strokes for different folks. The zero adjust is a non issue. It's still adjustable so why would someone care if it's there. As stated it's meant to be less of a headache just set the mag dial and be done. This new reel looks to be sweet. I just never understand the company's direction tho. The ct reels were and still are loved by the masses. If I were daiwa I'd have made a reel identical with a touch smaller frame. The 100 is a nice reel but I still prefer the ct
CrankFate reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 10:53 PM, Shimano_1 said:I'll second the not being impressed with the sv. I've had and used several ct reels and they were solid. Had 2 sv reels and came away wondering why the hype. Different strokes for different folks. The zero adjust is a non issue. It's still adjustable so why would someone care if it's there. As stated it's meant to be less of a headache just set the mag dial and be done. This new reel looks to be sweet. I just never understand the company's direction tho. The ct reels were and still are loved by the masses. If I were daiwa I'd have made a reel identical with a touch smaller frame. The 100 is a nice reel but I still prefer the ct
I pay a lot of attention to platform sharing. So if the SV is good, a regular CT with a DIY spool and bearings is better. That’s my opinion. The SV is a great reel, because all of the Tats are.
Gorris317 reply :
Does anyone know if these are the knobs like on the CT? I have the TAT 100 and I hate the new knobs.
punch reply :
I think it's safe to assume that it will have the 100 knobs
Gorris317 reply :
On 6/8/2019 at 7:56 AM, punch said:I think it's safe to assume that it will have the 100 knobs
I figured but was hoping otherwise.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Daiwa has gone 180 degrees from what I liked about them: limited models all quality with unique features. Now they’re like Lews more models than you can keep straight.
LonnieP reply :
On 6/8/2019 at 7:53 AM, Gorris317 said:Does anyone know if these are the knobs like on the CT? I have the TAT 100 and I hate the new knobs.
What do you dislike about the knobs?
Gorris317 reply :
On 6/8/2019 at 8:46 AM, LonnieP said:What do you dislike about the knobs?
They are skinner and don't feel as comfortable as the CT version.
Chance_Taker4 reply :
I really feel like we are starting to get technique specific reels now to match our rods. What I mean is the SV is great for close quarter fishing and light presentations. Now this Elite is made for larger resistant baits like a spinnerbait, crank, etc where you bomb casts and crank.
iabass8 reply :
On 6/8/2019 at 11:51 PM, Chance_Taker4 said:I really feel like we are starting to get technique specific reels now to match our rods. What I mean is the SV is great for close quarter fishing and light presentations. Now this Elite is made for larger resistant baits like a spinnerbait, crank, etc where you bomb casts and crank.
None of these are new. SV spools have been around for 8+ years. This new Elite is essentially an HLC /BBS that daiwa has been making for close to a decade in different variants. You are just now seeing it on entry level, budget friendly reels IE: Tatula.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 6/1/2019 at 10:08 PM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:Looks very nice. This is my first season with the Tatula SV and I'm in love with that reel. I like the Tatula 100 but the zero adjust spool tension just doesn't do it for me. Sad to see this new "Elite" model has the same thing.
Google "zero adjuster". There is a TT thread on it. As stated elsewhere in this thread, it can be adjusted. From what I gather spool tension is set where Daiwa feels should be.....just barely side-to-side play. Then use the brakes like they were designed for. Seems to me it should be a non issue.
Let's see if I can provide the link. http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?t=74693
LxVE Bassin reply :
The CT Type R and SV had 2 CRBBs. I don’t see any mention of those for this reel. At $200 I would expect CRBBs if not I may have to pass unless they make a left hand reel with a 5 speed gear ratio.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
Anyone handled these yet?
It seems there is a long cast and a pitch/flip version. The difference seems to be in the spool depth (deep and shallow, respectively) and handle knobs. They look pretty cool, but I am wondering if they will be worth the upgrade from the SV or how they compare (at least the pitch/flip version).
waymont reply :
I think it's $240.00
PhishLI reply :
On 8/23/2019 at 3:44 AM, Dirtyeggroll said:Anyone handled these yet?
It seems there is a long cast and a pitch/flip version. The difference seems to be in the spool depth (deep and shallow, respectively) and handle knobs. They look pretty cool, but I am wondering if they will be worth the upgrade from the SV or how they compare (at least the pitch/flip version).
I haven't grabbed one yet, but I'm getting the pitch/flip version to replace my Tat SV for that duty and punching. My Tat went geary on me even after being torn down and fully lubed several times. The big difference and most attractive thing about the Elites, for me at least, is the aluminum gear sideplate. Without any proof whatsover I'm partially blaming the plastic gear sideplate of the Tat for the geariness.
punch reply :
I handled one at the local tackle shop the other day. It's EXACTLY the same thing as the Tatula 100... just heavier.
NorthernBasser reply :
On 8/23/2019 at 10:44 AM, punch said:I handled one at the local tackle shop the other day. It's EXACTLY the same thing as the Tatula 100... just heavier.
The Elite is actually lighter. 6.7 vs 6.9.
Anybody been using the Elite by any chance?
iabass8 reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 5:19 AM, NorthernBasser said:The Elite is actually lighter. 6.7 vs 6.9.
Anybody been using the Elite by any chance?
I can see it being d/c fairly quickly. with the new tat SV that came out last month 50$ cheaper and the 100 regularily found at 100$, it's likely going to find it's way to clearance sooner rather than later.
NorthernBasser reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 5:25 AM, iabass8 said:I can see it being d/c fairly quickly. with the new tat SV that came out last month 50$ cheaper and the 100 regularily found at 100$, it's likely going to find it's way to clearance sooner rather than later.
You think they'll do away with the Elite already?
FishTank reply :
I held the new Elite, Tatula SV and the CT today. I am pretty sure that the Elite is built on the same platform as the Steez. It feels exactly the same in hand. If it wasn't just slightly heavier, I couldn't tell the difference. It was just as smooth and when I palmed it, it had that sort of magical feel to it.
I would not compare it to the CT though.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 5:36 AM, FishTank said:I held the new Elite, Tatula SV and the CT today. I am pretty sure that the Elite is built on the same platform as the Steez. It feels exactly the same in hand. If it wasn't just slightly heavier, I couldn't tell the difference. It was just as smooth and when I palmed it, it had that sort of magical feel to it.
I would not compare to the CT though.
They're close to the same footprint but not identical. Side plates are the glaring difference but it's a smidge wider but noting that's noticeable without actually measuring.
On 2/17/2020 at 5:27 AM, NorthernBasser said:You think they'll do away with the Elite already?
I mean not like tomorrow or anything but I could see it being phased out in the fall already. I'm sure it's a good reel but it's a niche series. If anything, the P/F will go away pretty quick /w the SV introduction last month on the 100 platform. It would be a pretty tough sell for people people to spend the extra 50$ on a reel when you get an SV on the entry level tatulas and with how well it was received in the previous version. As for the far cast, I'd rather find an older HLC than buy the elite. Asking somebody to spend 150 give or take to cast a little further than the standard 100 will be a tough sell as well.
FishTank reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 6:03 AM, iabass8 said:They're close to the same footprint but not identical. Side plates are the glaring difference but it's a smidge wider but noting that's noticeable without actually measuring.
I didn't want to drop his name but I actually talked to Ish Monroe about it today and he said... "It's built on the same platform as the Steez SV"
BaitFinesse reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 7:54 AM, FishTank said:I didn't want to drop his name but I actually talked to Ish Monroe about it today and he said... "It's built on the same platform as the Steez SV"
And that is why you take "what the pros say" with a grain of salt.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 7:54 AM, FishTank said:I didn't want to drop his name but I actually talked to Ish Monroe about it today and he said... "It's built on the same platform as the Steez SV"
I have multiples of the Steez A and the SVTW and also a single 100 that I bought to try. They aren't identical. I understand how somebody would think that looking at them though. For one, the 100 doesn't have a recessed brake dial like the A and SVTW so the palmside plate is already different. The middle frame footprint is also just a touch wider on the 100 than the sv and the A. Splitting hairs but I wanted to know if they were actually "identical" like some claim. I've measured it out of curiosity. they're both very small and comfortable to palm but the A and SVTW are noticeably more comfortable.
fishwizzard reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 11:12 AM, iabass8 said:. they're both very small and comfortable to palm but the A and SVTW are noticeably more comfortable.
Hah, I’m the opposite, I have one of the new Tat SVs and I find it way more comfortable then the A/SVTW frames. I can’t put my finger on what the difference is but across 3-4 different reels seats the Tat was better for me.
I’m pretty deep into the 34mm spool game but if the new Tat SV holds up and keeps casting as well as it does when new I don't think I will be looking much further for my GP reel needs.
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